Re: ab732f68c fixes major bug in fast-read branch

2018-06-12 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 2:55:10 PM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: All seems well now, but I plan at least a week of testing before merging > fast-read into devel. > Another major bug has appeared. Sometimes nodes in the .leo file override the nodes in the external file. Please do not use

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Terry Brown wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:30:51 -0500 > "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > > > > And I say Leo's architecture could be way more simpler and more > > > modular, allowing people to more easily contribute with less > > > control from anyone. There is only

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread Terry Brown
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:30:51 -0500 "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > > And I say Leo's architecture could be way more simpler and more > > modular, allowing people to more easily contribute with less > > control from anyone. There is only a minimal neccessary core for > > what leo is doing, the rest is

ENB: Caching in the no-sax world

2018-06-12 Thread Edward K. Ream
This Engineering Notebook post is, even more than usual, notes to myself. Feel free to ignore. BTW, the "devel" branch now supports the --trace-cache option. This clarifies what is going on considerably. At present, cacher.dump actually displays the contents of the files cache. So

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread Edward K. Ream
​On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:20 AM, 'Marcel Franke' via leo-editor < leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Leo's source code is difficult in places because it's always dealing with >> the DAG. That can't be helped. Leo devs are special people. >> > > And I say Leo's architecture could be way more

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread 'Marcel Franke' via leo-editor
Am Dienstag, 12. Juni 2018 12:43:11 UTC+2 schrieb Edward K. Ream: Terry, Vitalije, Ville Vainio, Bernhard Mulder, Kent Tenney, Marc-Antoine > Parent, Paul Paterson and others have all made significant contributions to > Leo. By any reasonable measure, Leo is open software. > It's not whether

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread 'Marcel Franke' via leo-editor
Am Dienstag, 12. Juni 2018 12:50:00 UTC+2 schrieb vitalije: > But just FYI here is the explanation from github how they count contributions. Ok, I see where you are coming from. Did you confirm that commits to develop are not appearing in your contribution-list after devel was merged to

Re: Prototype and its purpose

2018-06-12 Thread rengel
> > ... > > More than once in this forum it was pointed out that Leo's outline is like > a database. Let us accept this analogy for now and let me use some database > terminology. > > At the moment Leo keeps its data in the form of interconnected VNode > instances. The result of reading

ENB: Design of a better undo system

2018-06-12 Thread Edward K. Ream
Don't panic. I have no plans to write code :-) Recently Vitalije made a remark that got me thinking about how to simplify Leo's clumsy undo code. The late great Bernhard Mulder also wanted to do this. Vitalije suggested that we could modify Leo's execute-script code to support undo. We

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread vitalije
> > a) I understand the general idea of the contribution and > b) That I have a git branch to evaluate. > Both these items were on my todo list. I have planed to share code perhaps in some branch or in its own repository, and surely I planed to explain the model in full detail once it has

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 4:18 AM, 'Marcel Franke' wrote: ​ > On surface > ​[Leo is] open source, but the source if unnecessarily complicated and > unhealthy highly integrated, while still controlled by one single instance > of authority. Access is hard, relevant contribution even harder. > Terry,

Re: Prototype and its purpose

2018-06-12 Thread vitalije
> > Please tell us where we can find the latest version. > > Edward > I am glad that you find new data model still interesting and that you will give it a chance. Latest version is not very far from the version I have sent to you before. As I remember I have just fixed one small issue since.

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 8:48 AM, vitalije wrote: > An ancient Greek philosopher Socrates said something like this: "Trying to > teach someone faster than he can learn is dangerous and unwise". To be a > good teacher one needs to be tremendously patient. > ​Patience is always a good idea ;-)​ >

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread 'Marcel Franke' via leo-editor
Am Montag, 11. Juni 2018 15:48:00 UTC+2 schrieb vitalije: Since March 2018, when it was declared that only Edward should commit to > the master brunch, no contribution is counted for any other developer in > leo-editor team. > This is not true. The individual commits of every developer are

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread rengel
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:04:18 AM UTC+2, jkn wrote: > > > > Vitalije has replied with great thoughtfullness and dignity. It's a pity > that your contributions seem consistently at the trollish end to me. > > Sorry, you see it that way. I don't want to argue with you, but these have been my

Re: Inspired by Vitalije's prototype

2018-06-12 Thread jkn
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 6:44:34 AM UTC+1, rengel wrote: > > What an eloquent heart-breaking account. > A well-meaning soul, hurt but stiil not (yet) giving up. > Reading it, just makes me sad. > It will never be known how many just walked away silently... > > Reinhard > Vitalije has