Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Alice Wonder
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 03:06 +0100, Armin K. wrote: It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which no package ships that the former one depends on. Packaging error. Indeed, Fedora quite some time ago stopped shipping libtool .la files because of how frequently they

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alice Wonder wrote: On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 03:06 +0100, Armin K. wrote: It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which no package ships that the former one depends on. Packaging error. Indeed, Fedora quite some time ago stopped shipping libtool .la files because of

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 03:06:12 +0100 From: Armin K. kre...@email.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? . . I've just started sendmail. Actually I'm most interested in getting the slackware issue

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 20:33:55 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? Armin K. wrote: On 2.3.2014 2:55, akhiezer wrote: Why should we care when it's a distribution issue

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Armin K.
On 03/02/2014 09:29 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Alice Wonder wrote: On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 03:06 +0100, Armin K. wrote: It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which no package ships that the former one depends on. Packaging error. Indeed, Fedora quite some time ago

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Armin K.
On 03/02/2014 08:55 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: On 2.3.2014 2:55, akhiezer wrote: Why should we care when it's a distribution issue? Every sane distro It's not a 'distribution issue': you're wrong. It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Armin K.
On 03/02/2014 01:38 PM, akhiezer wrote: Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 03:06:12 +0100 From: Armin K. kre...@email.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? . . I've just started sendmail. Actually I'm most

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:55:54 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? . . I think I have the test for version-check.sh: for lib in lib{gmp,mpfr,mpc}.so; do

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:55:54 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? . . I think I have the test for version-check.sh: for lib in lib{gmp,mpfr,mpc}.so; do

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 03/02/2014 09:29 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Alice Wonder wrote: On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 03:06 +0100, Armin K. wrote: It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which no package ships that the former one depends on. Packaging error. Indeed, Fedora quite

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Bruce Dubbs wrote: After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system requirements page in svn: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/prologue/hostreqs.html Looks reasonable to me, unless we want to take lib64 / lib32 into account, rather than just lib. I'd

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Armin K.
On 03/02/2014 08:05 PM, Bryan Kadzban wrote: Armin K. wrote: No matter what you say, if a package A installs a file X.Y that requires file Z.Y and package A doesn't either: a) pull automatically the package (depend on) that contains file Z.Y b)ships that file itself the packaging is

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bryan Kadzban wrote: Bryan Kadzban wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system requirements page in svn: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/prologue/hostreqs.html Looks reasonable to me, unless we want to take lib64 / lib32

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:36:34 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system requirements page in svn: http

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Gregory H. Nietsky
On 02/03/2014 22:00, akhiezer wrote: Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:36:34 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:36:34 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system requirements page

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 14:27:05 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system requirements page in svn: http

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 02/03/2014 21:00, akhiezer a écrit : Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:36:34 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 28/02/2014 23:24, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Now, I have a question. I have never been involved in development, so just take my question as a mark of curiosity: what is the reason to expect release of LFS and BLFS to be close in time? I would think of something like: -

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 01/03/2014 22:58, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 28/02/2014 23:24, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Now, I have a question. I have never been involved in development, so just take my question as a mark of curiosity: what is the reason to expect release of

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-01 Thread akhiezer
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:36:21 +0100 From: Armin K. kre...@email.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? . . I've just started sendmail. Actually I'm most interested in getting the slackware issue

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-01 Thread akhiezer
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:22:26 + From: lf...@cruziero.com (akhiezer) To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:36:21 +0100 From: Armin K. kre...@email.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-01 Thread Armin K.
On 2.3.2014 2:55, akhiezer wrote: Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:22:26 + From: lf...@cruziero.com (akhiezer) To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:36:21 +0100 From: Armin K. kre...@email.com

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 2.3.2014 2:55, akhiezer wrote: Why should we care when it's a distribution issue? Every sane distro It's not a 'distribution issue': you're wrong. It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which no package ships that the former one depends on.

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: On 2.3.2014 2:55, akhiezer wrote: Why should we care when it's a distribution issue? Every sane distro It's not a 'distribution issue': you're wrong. It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which no package ships that the former

[lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-02-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
The commit for -rc1 was on Feb 16. Since then there have been text changes plus the following: Update kmod to install man pages properly. Delete symlinks in /usr and add /usr/libexec. Add a patch for glibc FHS issues. There is also ticket #3705. It really looks like a user error to me, but

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-02-28 Thread akhiezer
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:15:10 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? The commit for -rc1 was on Feb 16. Since then there have been text changes plus the following: Update

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-02-28 Thread Armin K.
On 28.2.2014 20:15, Bruce Dubbs wrote: The commit for -rc1 was on Feb 16. Since then there have been text changes plus the following: Update kmod to install man pages properly. Delete symlinks in /usr and add /usr/libexec. Add a patch for glibc FHS issues. There is also ticket #3705. It

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-02-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:15:10 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Developers Mailinglist lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? The commit for -rc1 was on Feb 16. Since then there have been text changes plus

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-02-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 01:15:10PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: So the questions is whether we should release 7.5 tomorrow or not. We could wait for BLFS, but I'm not sure that's really necessary. As far as I am concerned, LFS -rc1 seems fine : but I've only built it on x86_64 desktops (two

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-02-28 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 28-02-2014 18:23, Ken Moffat escreveu: i686, nor if we should care. Is i686 gong to be deprecated? -- []s, Fernando -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-02-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 28-02-2014 18:23, Ken Moffat escreveu: i686, nor if we should care. Is i686 gong to be deprecated? I don't think so. My main system is still a 686, but I don't normally do a full development on it. If we don't have the hardware, then we could always build