On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 07:05:14PM +, Richard Melville wrote:
Ken, I'm using vesafb on a web server with no Xorg, and I just use the
console. I realise that my kernel was quite old but as I like to check
every configuration option (often because of new hardware) it takes a
long
Ken, I'm using vesafb on a web server with no Xorg, and I just use the
console. I realise that my kernel was quite old but as I like to check
every configuration option (often because of new hardware) it takes a long
time to configure a new kernel and becomes incredibly boring towards the
end :-(
Excellent news :-) However, may I just point out that there's a broken
libungif link on the Emacs-24.3 page. Maybe it should point here:
http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Libungif
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On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 14:53 +, Richard Melville wrote:
I think that was understood; when they said that it was stupid it
was surely meant that there could be some confusion in the use of
similar terms.
Possibly, though if they'd understood it, you'd think they'd have
mentioned
Now it would be nice for it to work using UUIDs so the booting can
be independent of host system.
You need to use an initrd of that. See BLFS.
-- Bruce
Would't using GPT instead of MBR be a viable alternative?
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I've got a few files at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~ken/
in the keyboard-items and fonts directories - note that
LatGrkCyr-8x16 is a 512-ish character font and ships in kbd. It
comes from the sigma fonts there which are very much roll your
own but do allow a 256 character font if that
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 01:00:38PM +, Richard Melville wrote:
When I use backspace in the terminal/console and then re-type I get white
blocking. I'm fairly sure that I installed the patches when I built the
keyboard package. Any advice? It's really annoying.
Richard
I suppose white
When I use backspace in the terminal/console and then re-type I get white
blocking. I'm fairly sure that I installed the patches when I built the
keyboard package. Any advice? It's really annoying.
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Richard Melville wrote:
I have one Ethernet adapter (Intel 82574L Gigabit) but udev has found two
complete with MAC addresses. The phantom version is installed on eth0
and
the real version is installed on eth1. I've searched the system for the
phantom MAC address but I cannot find
Or just create your scripts with cat blah EOF
Then if you have errors use sed or perl to fix them!
Sincerely,
William Harrington
A little off-topic but I've pondered this for a long time: in the LFS book
why is EOF always in quotes; I've found EOF without quotes to work just
fine.
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:32:22AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
and I'll open a ticket for this possible fix to
t/python-missing.sh. Normally, I'd just upload the patch, but I'd
prefer to get confirmation that it fixes the problem. More on -dev
when I've created a ticket.
Forget that
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 07:01:02PM +0100, Richard Melville wrote:
I realise that I'm building the dev edition, but my host is Linux Mint
Cinnamon 64 bit and the host requirements appeared to fit better. Also it
looked as though the dev edition was at a reasonably stable stage.
I'm
Richard Melville wrote:
Finally -- some recognition that there is a potential problem with this
build. I disagree that it works okay for x86 and x86_64 because I
reported here that the MPC configure error appeared randomly on my x86_64
build, as, indeed, others have. I've already
William Harrington wrote:
Sometimes you can't build mpfr mpc and gmp within the gcc source tree
for some targets. We found that out in CLFS. That's we we don't build
gmp mpc and mpfr within the tree. Works okay for x86 and x86_64,
however, when you start building for other targets, it
On 09/03/2012 03:53 PM, Israel Silberg wrote:
checking for MPFR... no
configure: error: libmpfr not found or uses a different ABI (including
static vs shared).
make[2]: *** [configure-stage1-mpc] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/gcc-build'
make[1]: ***
Richard Melville wrote:
I've noticed that this was recommended way back on LFS 3.3 but now seems
to
have been dropped. As all the distros appear to have caught up with LFS
by
having this symlink what are the current views here on creating it? I've
noticed some discussion on the dev
I've noticed that this was recommended way back on LFS 3.3 but now seems to
have been dropped. As all the distros appear to have caught up with LFS by
having this symlink what are the current views here on creating it? I've
noticed some discussion on the dev list in January but it seems to have
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Richard Melville
richard.melvill...@googlemail.com wrote:
I extracted all of these packages from within the GCC-4.7.1 folder
snip
I'd still be interested to know why we build GMP, MPC, and MPFR inside
GCC
except on the final build where they are built
On 2012-09-05 10:43, Richard Melville wrote:
Thanks for the reply Steve ( and Eleanor earlier). ?Picking up on
what Bruce said about the possibility of race conditions relating to
building GCC with MAKEFLAGS set to -j 1, Im wondering if there may
be a race condition affecting the GCC
On 2012-09-05 15:34, Baho Utot wrote:
On 09/05/2012 09:55 AM, Jasmine Iwanek wrote:
Leaping before looking is what I do well and it has taught me a great
deal. Following a path by others may be a very good guide, but to
truly
learn requires ones to deviate from the beaten path and
Walter Webb wrote:
I just joined this list and can't respond properly.
I had a different file not found than Israel Silberg.
I unset MAKEFLAGS and retried, and it worked.
I'm glad you got it to build, but that's the conclusion of a simple
empiricist. It's like me saying that because I
I extracted all of these packages from within the GCC-4.7.1 folder
and the configure and make are from gcc-build
Here is the output for ls -lah of gcc-4.7.1
lfs@kitt-Lenovo-Product:/mnt/lfs/sources/gcc-4.7.1$ ls -lah
total 11M
drwxr-xr-x 33 lfs lfs 4.0K Sep 3 09:25 .
drwxrwxrwt 4 lfs
Thanks, but perhaps not necessary - it seems to be a problem at my
end (see Bruce's response, and my reply to that). In particular,
the run as a regular user seems NOT to be the key.
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Probably not of much use to you then, but
Richard Melville wrote:
Failed 2 tests out of 2202, 99.91% okay.
../cpan/IO-Compress/t/105oneshot-zip-only.t
../cpan/Time-Local/t/Local.t
I'm guessing that this is not a problem. Any views appreciated.
That's a problem we are working right now. It's a timezone
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:04:49AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
Unfortunately, this was unlogged and scrolled out of my
term's buffer - it then died with an EPERM trying to create
test-suite.log.tmp so I've now started it again, after chown me
../automake-1.12.3.
So, in effect that is
Thanks Bruce -- the nobody test suite now runs but all tests fail owing
to mv and grep not being found :-(
Maybe I should just move on.
That would be best for you until I get this fixed. The problem is that
we are using a different version of su in Chapter 6 than we used to use.
Failed 2 tests out of 2202, 99.91% okay.
../cpan/IO-Compress/t/105oneshot-zip-only.t
../cpan/Time-Local/t/Local.t
I'm guessing that this is not a problem. Any views appreciated.
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Some help with this would be great -- I just can't understand it.
I ran the tests as root which ran OK. I've added the temporary group and
changed permissions but when I run:-
su nobody -s /bin/bash -c make RUN_EXPENSIVE_TESTS=yes -k check || true
Hi!
I had been using LFS for half a year until I realized that keeping it
up-to-date is a pain. I feel I'd like to have some hard work again:),
so now I'm trying to upgrade that system. As far as I know It could
be a failure, but definately not an easy task... I'm confused about
how
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:32:06AM +0100, Richard Melville wrote:
I do have a question, however, regarding vulnerabilities in old packages.
Does anybody know of a good website that lists vulnerabilities as they
are
found. That would enable us to replace just those packages in old
Just went through this step in linux mint 32bit in vmware and found
no issues.
That's because it's an intermittent bug. I've just had the same problem
using Linux Mint Cinnamon 64 bit. Sometimes the error message appears and
sometimes it doesn't. If you look back through the posts in the
Can anybody tell me why the above happens? I'm using Chrome on the host to
follow the book. Chrome won't restart and I'm now using Firefox. I
noticed that the symlink was also removed from the host /dev directory;
should that be so? I'm guessing that's why Chrome halted. I thought that
the
Richard Melville wrote:
I realise that I'm building the dev edition, but my host is Linux Mint
Cinnamon 64 bit and the host requirements appeared to fit better. Also it
looked as though the dev edition was at a reasonably stable stage.
I'm building a 64 bit edition on a 64 bit host
Hi Bruce
I've now completed the temp build successfully, but digging around in the
file system to try and track down that error I've noticed that I have the
following directories under $LFS/tools (in addition to all the others of
course):-
x86_64-lfs-linux-gnu
x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
That
I realise that I'm building the dev edition, but my host is Linux Mint
Cinnamon 64 bit and the host requirements appeared to fit better. Also it
looked as though the dev edition was at a reasonably stable stage.
I'm building a 64 bit edition on a 64 bit host (OS and hardware).
The failure is:-
Mykal Fink wrote:-
I replaced the battery and the behavior didn't change.
But at least, for a very small outlay, you can now rule out battery
problems, and you don't have to worry about losing time when the box is
unplugged.
Richard
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I agree with everything that's been said, but why not just *buy the
battery*; then you'll have no time concerns whatsoever. In the UK they cost
from about £1 upwards, depending on the type. I really can't see what the
problem is.
Richard
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Sorry, I meant to say no time problems whatsoever regarding the battery.
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On Friday 11 December 2009 12:49:52 Johnneylee Rollins wrote:
I am use to old hardware (i486DX) having problems keeping time on the
hardware clock. But isn't the system clock a separate thing? I am
losing
about 4 min on the system clock for every 10 minutes of real time. I've
Just a quick report back. Although a good night was had by all, Stormy
probably wasn't the right person to ask about Gnome technical issues as her
post is mainly managerial.
In reply to Jason she did say that Nautilus was very much in active
development and that The Gnome Foundation was very
Thanks to Simon, Alan and Jason for the feedback; I'll put the two questions
to Stormy.
Simon, I take your point but my only thoughts on the relationship between
Windows and Gnome was that they both have registries and they can both
become corrupted.
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Running old computers is often touted as the green option. It's a fact
that the two most vulnerable components in such computers are the power
supply and the hard disk. Having had both of these components fail at
various times on oldish boxes I can only infer that those on this mailing
list
Simon Geard said:-
Because an external DVD writer costs on average three times what an
internal one does, and offers roughly half the read and write speeds. It
also adds clutter to my desk, and adds to the mess of cabling down the
back of the desk, not to mention the inevitable bulky AC/DC
Bruce Dubbs wrote:-
That works for you, but for most people, it's far easier to use a usb
thumb drive with capacities in GB to do the same thing.
Some very old systems do not have usb connections, but many, if not
most, newer systems do not have a floppy drive. Parallel printer
I kept building kernels, and /boot partition kept filling up, and
eventually I switched to just using a /boot directory on the root /.
I've found that LVM is excellent for managing partitions that need to be
resized.
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I need to upgrade udev-056 to a more recent version, say 122, on a older
LFS. This, I understand, can be tricky. I figured if I chrooted into the
system from elsewhere, deleted the existing version and reinstalled it would
work. What do you think, any advice on this matter appreciated?
Adrian Fisher wrote:-
I don't really like the interface that comes with it but that is not the
reason I bought it. I bought it with the intention of wiping it and
putting my own system on there.
After you have it successfully dual-booting Xandros/LFS you can wipe the
Xandros partition.
Adrian Fisher wrote:-
I want to put LFS on my ASUS Eee PC Laptop (40GB SSD) but it has no
CD/DVD drive and I have no external one. While it already has Linux on
it it is a minimal installation as it has no compiler and no means of
installing software manually, other than the few packages
Bruce Dubbs wrote:-
In fact, I have:
/dev/sda5/ ext3 defaults 1
1
/dev/sda7/home ext3 defaults 1
2
/dev/sda3/boot ext3 defaults 1
2
Ken Moffat wrote:-
If /boot is a separate filesystem, you can use the version of grub
installed by your host system.
I would always recommend a separate /boot partition whatever the build.
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Ken Moffat wrote:-
If /boot is a separate filesystem, you can use the version of grub
installed by your host system.
I would always recommend a separate /boot partition whatever the build.
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William Immendorf wrote:
BUT, if stabilaty on recent systems is your goal, you should use 6.4.
William, it's no good just repeating the same thing like a mantra -- show us
the proof.
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Hello, this really does sound like it isn't enabled in your kernel.
The option is CONFIG_SWAP, or under the name Support for paging of
anonymous memory (swap).
zgrep CONFIG_SWAP /proc/config.gz ( or substitute grep and your
.config if you didn't create /proc/config.gz )
Yeah, sorry
That implies you are using LFS-6.2. I'm afraid I think glibc-2.3.6
is now regarded as very old.
I don't know what to recommend - LFS-6.3 is about to become old,
hopefully within the next 3 weeks, but as I said in a different
thread I expect there to be a *lot* of breakage with the
I've never looked at VLC. Looking at /usr/include/linux seems
a reasonable thing for a configure script to be doing. Which kernel
headers did you use when building glibc, and what is now reported to
be missing-and-required ?
Ken
I believe that my original kernel headers were 2.6.12.
Hi
I've managed without a swap partition until now, but I'm trying to
build open office and the build is failing at the last minute due to
lack of memory. So now I've made a swap partition of 2 gig and run
mkswap. I've also amended the fstab. All seems fine until I run swapon
-a which returns
Yes, I think you've missed the important thing ;) The kernel
headers are what glibc was compiled against, and they should not be
changed unless you upgrade glibc [ and before anyone misconstrues
that, we *don't* support upgrading glibc - when the time comes,
build a new system ].
Hi
When booting my lfs installation, I get the following errors:
swapon: cannot stat dev/sda3: no such file or directory
fsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda4
I suspect this is due to my grub configuration. Rather than installing
grub, I added these lines to
=* in this instance, not
*video=*. I don't think that vesafb operates at a 32 bit colour depth.
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for?
Thanks for any help,
Andreas
Just a thought - have you copied over to the /boot/grub/ directory the
correct 1.5 file in relation to the file system that you are using.
They are all file system specific.
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you mean when you boot LFS?
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using 2.6.24 with LFS
6.2 and it works well.
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XFCE is no longer supported in BLFS (and you didn't even specify its
version!).
There is some activity on the XFCE mailing list, but it is mostly about the
upcoming 4.6 release.
Any idea why XFCE is no longer supported in BLFS?
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On Tue 12 Sep 2006 Dan Nicholson wrote:
The alsa.dev script was used when hotplug and udev were installed
together. Hotplug handled dynamic devices, and it would use the alsa
script placed in /etc/dev.d. Nowadays, udev has completely deprecated
hotplug to the point where any of the dynamic
Please can somebody help. I've reached the stage of desperation. I've
compiled the via drivers and alsa into the kernel and installed the alsa
library, plug-ins, utilities and alsa oss. I've run the speaker-test and
played a wav file and everything on the terminal screen looks good. I
have not
When I built my LFS system, i got the GRUB error 18 message at stage
1.5. i looked this up and saw something about my disk was beyond the
scope of the BIOS or something (the meaning of error 18).
Isn't this the error referred to in the LFS book - the one it says to
ignore.
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The final build of Perl works fine but when I try to build autoconf
The @INC path has the /tools directory hardwired into it.
I've tried using grep in the Perl source tree to find where this occurs
but have had no luck.
I don't know why this would happen. Just to make sure, could you
Ken, although I have followed the book to the letter and already have
coreutils successfully installed and tested, the findutils test failures
do seem to point to an incorrect path. All the failures in both xargs
and locate were accompanied by the *no such file or directory* message.
When
Richard Melville wrote:
Could you show the failures in glibc and findutils?
Thanks for all your help. I'm away until Wednesday but, Dan, I have
already posted the glibc test failures in the April 2006 archives. You
can see them there. I stripped out some of the obvious ones like
Hi
I'm hoping somebody can help as I can find no other threads relating to
this. I'm getting a lot of test failures in *locate* and *xargs*, but
*find* was OK, and Findutils seems to compile OK. I can't see that this
is too much of a problem (it doesn't appear that this package is a
/tests ] Error 2
make[2] : *** [ /sources/glibc-build/elf/tst-align.out ] Error 1
make[1] : *** [ elf/tests ] Error 2
BTW I'm using the live CD.
Thanks in anticipation.
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at this
stage? The glibc config.log reads
*cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile*. I did run the
test suite on gcc-3.4.3 in chapter 5, and apart from precompiled header
failures it seemed OK.
BTW I'm using the live cd.
Many thanks in advance.
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// The sanity check fails, as does gcc -dumpmachine. However, if I exit
// the chroot environment and run the sanity check again, all is well. The
// sanity check
OK, I pretty stumped. One last thing. Make sure that gcc itself is
actually linked correctly.
readelf -l /tools/bin/gcc | grep 'ld-linux'
This should be /tools/lib/ld-linux.so.2 or obviously it won't
reference the correct location in the chroot.
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The output is /lib/ld-linux.so.2
.
Thanks in advance.
Richard
Sorry to everyone for the unnecessary post. I must have typed posix
in lower case when compiling. My excuse - it was late and I was very tired.
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Hi
I'm building LFS 6.1 with the errata (perl 5.8.7 and the 5.8.7 libc patch).
In chapter 5.32 after running *make perl utilities* the compilation fails
complaining that there is no such file or directory as
*lib/auto/posix/posix.a*.
Any ideas. I'd appreciate the help. I'm using the live
Hi
I realise that the test results are not critical in the temporary system
but I just need some confirmation that it is worth proceeding.
Three of the four sets of my results were as good, if not better, than the
results shown at the URL (which incidently now seem to have disappeared).
My GCC
Dan
I'm using the 6.1 live CD and I've downloaded the errata (obviously not
relevant at this stage of the build).
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Output from uname -r is 2.6.11.12
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Hi
This is my third attempt at building LFS 6.1 as I have not had enough
time to complete before.
Each time I have reached the PTY test after the installation of
*dejagnu*, and issued the command
*expect -c spawn ls* the shell just echoes *spawn ls*. Why is this?
Thanks in advance
Richard
Richard Melville wrote:
/ Thanks Dave. Do you mean that if the Hunks aren't listed then they
// have succeeded? In addition, an offset of 103 lines isn't *off by a
// line or so.* Is this still acceptable?/
Yep. :) If the hunks aren't listed, they've succeeded. :) And the offset
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