Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Viola Zoltán]

I tryed now: delete all from /tools, all unpacked sources, begin at first
with compile of binutils. That suceeded. Then, I continued the process with
compile of gcc. Sorry, nothing change, it give me the error message written
above.

Today afternoon I should install the unlike ubuntu (exact/distinctly
lubuntu) and try it again...


2013/10/24 Pierre Labastie 

> Le 23/10/2013 23:49, Viola Zoltán a écrit :
> > @akhiezer:
> >
> > I tryed:
> >
> > CFLAGS="-O2 -g" make
> >
> > but no changed:
>
> Hi Viola,
>
> What I told about the LFS_TGT variable is important. I've seen that you
> have changed it in your 'printenv' output, but have you recompiled
> binutils with this new setting?
> If not, you are in a mixed native-croscompile setting, which cannot be
> expected to work...
>
> For the host distro I use, it is debian 7.0. I've also tried recent
> Arch, various Ubuntu's, Fedora's, and Suse's, all of them allowed to
> build LFS.
>
> Regards
> Pierre
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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Pierre Labastie]

Le 23/10/2013 23:49, Viola Zoltán a écrit :
> @akhiezer:
>
> I tryed:
>
> CFLAGS="-O2 -g" make
>
> but no changed:

Hi Viola,

What I told about the LFS_TGT variable is important. I've seen that you 
have changed it in your 'printenv' output, but have you recompiled 
binutils with this new setting?
If not, you are in a mixed native-croscompile setting, which cannot be 
expected to work...

For the host distro I use, it is debian 7.0. I've also tried recent 
Arch, various Ubuntu's, Fedora's, and Suse's, all of them allowed to 
build LFS.

Regards
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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Viola Zoltán]

Okay, thanks.


2013/10/23 Ken Moffat 

> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 09:00:36PM -0400, Viola Zoltán wrote:
> > Dear Ken, I need the new distro from you suggestion ONLY, JUST for the
> > building of LFS, no for other works/jobs! No problem, if it not have
> > wifi-possibility or others. I saved the full LFS and BLFS books to my
> > new-used partition, I will work from its. And I was downloaded all needed
> > packages, of course. I will install the new host distro, and build LFS.
> If
> > I would like work/play any other, then reboot to my Sabayon. Therefore, I
> > no need full-featured desktop environment. Just a lightweight WM with a
> > browser to read the LFS book, mc (not musthaved, but I like it) and
> nothing
> > else, just I should can build my LFS. I need the host distro just
> > temporarily, ad interim. Which distro you do use nowadays for build you
> LFS
> > system?
>
>  To answer that last question - LFS.  I have used debian-ppc and
> then ubuntu for my non x86 boxes, but the last x86 distro I used was
> probably mandrake-7.2.  Is sabayon the gentoo-based hardened distro
> you were using ?  Or did you actually install gentoo ?
> >
> > Or, it is would be much easyer to my, that if you have a full temporary
> > system as written in the LFS book, - finished to the 5.35 chapter - then
> > you pack it to a tar.bz2 file, and send me its download link. I download
> > it, unpack it to my partition, change ownership, and begin at this
> chapter
> > I continue the building of my own LFS system, with chroot and others.
> This
> > is a little bit would be alike to the Gentoo, from stage3, I think.
> >
> > Zoli
>
>  Four reasons why I can't do that :
>
> 1. I don't have such a tarball.
> 2. Size - I don't have anywhere to upload large files.
> 3. Licensing - you would need my buildscripts, and I would also have
> to offer to supply you with the source tarballs for a reasonable
> time, at least for the GPL'd packages.
> 4. I'm normally building on x86_64.  You are building i686.
>
>  At this point, perhaps I should mention that we really dislike top
> posting.
>
>  You mentioned that you didn't like ubuntu : if you have a
> fairly-recent ubuntu CD, that should be good enough : install it and
> then boot ubuntu, install a minimal desktop instead of the bloated
> 'buntu desktop (I prefer icewm, but xfce is nearly as useful), your
> mc, and then whatever it needs for LFS - build-essentials, and
> replacing the dash symlink is my guess.  Check the host system
> requirements in the book.
>
> ĸen
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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Ken Moffat]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 09:00:36PM -0400, Viola Zoltán wrote:
> Dear Ken, I need the new distro from you suggestion ONLY, JUST for the
> building of LFS, no for other works/jobs! No problem, if it not have
> wifi-possibility or others. I saved the full LFS and BLFS books to my
> new-used partition, I will work from its. And I was downloaded all needed
> packages, of course. I will install the new host distro, and build LFS. If
> I would like work/play any other, then reboot to my Sabayon. Therefore, I
> no need full-featured desktop environment. Just a lightweight WM with a
> browser to read the LFS book, mc (not musthaved, but I like it) and nothing
> else, just I should can build my LFS. I need the host distro just
> temporarily, ad interim. Which distro you do use nowadays for build you LFS
> system?

 To answer that last question - LFS.  I have used debian-ppc and
then ubuntu for my non x86 boxes, but the last x86 distro I used was
probably mandrake-7.2.  Is sabayon the gentoo-based hardened distro
you were using ?  Or did you actually install gentoo ?
> 
> Or, it is would be much easyer to my, that if you have a full temporary
> system as written in the LFS book, - finished to the 5.35 chapter - then
> you pack it to a tar.bz2 file, and send me its download link. I download
> it, unpack it to my partition, change ownership, and begin at this chapter
> I continue the building of my own LFS system, with chroot and others. This
> is a little bit would be alike to the Gentoo, from stage3, I think.
> 
> Zoli

 Four reasons why I can't do that :

1. I don't have such a tarball.
2. Size - I don't have anywhere to upload large files.
3. Licensing - you would need my buildscripts, and I would also have
to offer to supply you with the source tarballs for a reasonable
time, at least for the GPL'd packages.
4. I'm normally building on x86_64.  You are building i686.

 At this point, perhaps I should mention that we really dislike top
posting.

 You mentioned that you didn't like ubuntu : if you have a
fairly-recent ubuntu CD, that should be good enough : install it and
then boot ubuntu, install a minimal desktop instead of the bloated
'buntu desktop (I prefer icewm, but xfce is nearly as useful), your
mc, and then whatever it needs for LFS - build-essentials, and
replacing the dash symlink is my guess.  Check the host system
requirements in the book.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Viola Zoltán]

Dear Ken, I need the new distro from you suggestion ONLY, JUST for the
building of LFS, no for other works/jobs! No problem, if it not have
wifi-possibility or others. I saved the full LFS and BLFS books to my
new-used partition, I will work from its. And I was downloaded all needed
packages, of course. I will install the new host distro, and build LFS. If
I would like work/play any other, then reboot to my Sabayon. Therefore, I
no need full-featured desktop environment. Just a lightweight WM with a
browser to read the LFS book, mc (not musthaved, but I like it) and nothing
else, just I should can build my LFS. I need the host distro just
temporarily, ad interim. Which distro you do use nowadays for build you LFS
system?

Or, it is would be much easyer to my, that if you have a full temporary
system as written in the LFS book, - finished to the 5.35 chapter - then
you pack it to a tar.bz2 file, and send me its download link. I download
it, unpack it to my partition, change ownership, and begin at this chapter
I continue the building of my own LFS system, with chroot and others. This
is a little bit would be alike to the Gentoo, from stage3, I think.

Zoli


2013/10/23 Ken Moffat 

> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 07:14:15PM -0400, Viola Zoltán wrote:
> > Dear Ken, I am sure that this is no memory problem. I have absolutely
> full
> > totally new memory chipset in my laptop, and all programs work very good,
> > both in my Sabayon (because I use not Gentoo, but Sabayon) and my old
> > Ubuntu 11.10 distro in an other partition.
> >
> > Okay, I try the LFS with any other host distro. Make a suggestion to me,
> > please, which distro would be good for this procedure? No LiveCD please,
> I
> > have an empty almost 100 GB partitio for the host system. Please propose
> a
> > distro which has MC... I CAN use the commandline without MC, good, but
> WITH
> > mc it is much easyer and faster. I am not profi in the Linux, but no
> > beginner. Maybe "power user". I can write not too difficult bash scripts,
> > can programming in C/C++ (and a little bit in assembly...), my preferred
> > window manager is the DWM, but I am newbie in the LFS, because I not
> > understand good how the "configure", the "make", "autoconf", "automake"
> >  and the linker work, not know they's syntax, etc. I am in the Linux
> > autodidact, self-educated, I was never learned it in any school or
> training
> > course. Actually/as a matter of fact, I was begin the LFS even just
> exactly
> > because I would like to know FULLY, how a Linux system work, and because
> I
> > very not like the bloatware distros (named *buntu, etc) with lot of (for
> > me) superfluous programs. I like, agree, approve the
> > suckless.orgphilosophy. I like the commandline and the
> > commandline-based programs (and
> > ncurses). But sorry, I not have a good "mentor"... Thus, what host distro
> > do you suggest for me, which work good (tested) sure to this LFS?
> >
> > Zoli
> >
>
>  I've no idea which distro would suit you.  But whatever you use,
> 100GB is excessively large for a system.  Many people will put the
> user's files in /home on a separate partition.  Some people will
> put other data files (e.g. audio-video) on a separate partition.
> You can always reinstall a distro if it gets trashed, but you are
> the only one who can preserve and back-up your own data.
>
>  Debian and debian-derived distros (ubuntu, mint) may be missing a
> few things (e.g. they might have mawk instead of gawk, and /bin/sh
> might be symlinked to dash - both these things can be fixed).
> Distros like Arch and fedora might be too bleeding edge (i.e. newer
> than what we have tested), but I will be surprised if they cause
> many problems (I'm assuming that systemd doesn't cause a problem in
> building LFS - I've never used it, and have no plans to).
>
>  MC is not something I like, so I've no idea which distros use it.
>
>  The one benefit to a distro is that it should set up your hardware
> properly.  Nowadays many things just work, but older or very new
> hardware can have problems.  Wifi can be a problem, and occasionally
> graphics are also a problem.  Suspend/hibernate also.  If you can
> find a distro which suits you, you can use it to examine desktops
> and different desktop applications.  I assume that debian has the
> widest range of these.
>
>  Once you have a usable (for you) desktop, you will (I hope) find
> that using a graphical browser such as firefox is the easiest way to
> search for solutions to problems, and you will also be able to try
> putting multiple terms on the same desktop (if your screen is big
> enough) - I guess that kde, gnome, and unity (ubuntu) are probably
> not very good for multiple terms on the same desktop.  Seriously,
> a desktop configured the way you like it, with multiple terms, is
> the most productive way to write scripts or code IMHO.
>
>  I'd better not forget to mention Slackware.
>
>  You might do best to spend a few weeks playing around with
> diffe

Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Ken Moffat]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 07:14:15PM -0400, Viola Zoltán wrote:
> Dear Ken, I am sure that this is no memory problem. I have absolutely full
> totally new memory chipset in my laptop, and all programs work very good,
> both in my Sabayon (because I use not Gentoo, but Sabayon) and my old
> Ubuntu 11.10 distro in an other partition.
> 
> Okay, I try the LFS with any other host distro. Make a suggestion to me,
> please, which distro would be good for this procedure? No LiveCD please, I
> have an empty almost 100 GB partitio for the host system. Please propose a
> distro which has MC... I CAN use the commandline without MC, good, but WITH
> mc it is much easyer and faster. I am not profi in the Linux, but no
> beginner. Maybe "power user". I can write not too difficult bash scripts,
> can programming in C/C++ (and a little bit in assembly...), my preferred
> window manager is the DWM, but I am newbie in the LFS, because I not
> understand good how the "configure", the "make", "autoconf", "automake"
>  and the linker work, not know they's syntax, etc. I am in the Linux
> autodidact, self-educated, I was never learned it in any school or training
> course. Actually/as a matter of fact, I was begin the LFS even just exactly
> because I would like to know FULLY, how a Linux system work, and because I
> very not like the bloatware distros (named *buntu, etc) with lot of (for
> me) superfluous programs. I like, agree, approve the
> suckless.orgphilosophy. I like the commandline and the
> commandline-based programs (and
> ncurses). But sorry, I not have a good "mentor"... Thus, what host distro
> do you suggest for me, which work good (tested) sure to this LFS?
> 
> Zoli
> 

 I've no idea which distro would suit you.  But whatever you use,
100GB is excessively large for a system.  Many people will put the
user's files in /home on a separate partition.  Some people will
put other data files (e.g. audio-video) on a separate partition.
You can always reinstall a distro if it gets trashed, but you are
the only one who can preserve and back-up your own data.

 Debian and debian-derived distros (ubuntu, mint) may be missing a
few things (e.g. they might have mawk instead of gawk, and /bin/sh
might be symlinked to dash - both these things can be fixed).
Distros like Arch and fedora might be too bleeding edge (i.e. newer
than what we have tested), but I will be surprised if they cause
many problems (I'm assuming that systemd doesn't cause a problem in
building LFS - I've never used it, and have no plans to).

 MC is not something I like, so I've no idea which distros use it.

 The one benefit to a distro is that it should set up your hardware
properly.  Nowadays many things just work, but older or very new
hardware can have problems.  Wifi can be a problem, and occasionally
graphics are also a problem.  Suspend/hibernate also.  If you can
find a distro which suits you, you can use it to examine desktops
and different desktop applications.  I assume that debian has the
widest range of these.

 Once you have a usable (for you) desktop, you will (I hope) find
that using a graphical browser such as firefox is the easiest way to
search for solutions to problems, and you will also be able to try
putting multiple terms on the same desktop (if your screen is big
enough) - I guess that kde, gnome, and unity (ubuntu) are probably
not very good for multiple terms on the same desktop.  Seriously,
a desktop configured the way you like it, with multiple terms, is
the most productive way to write scripts or code IMHO.

 I'd better not forget to mention Slackware.

 You might do best to spend a few weeks playing around with
different distros - for normal use, I guess that 10GB is plenty for
a system, but you may have trouble getting multiple distros to play
nicely with each other - particularly when setting up grub, but also
the user and group IDs.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Viola Zoltán]

Dear Ken, I am sure that this is no memory problem. I have absolutely full
totally new memory chipset in my laptop, and all programs work very good,
both in my Sabayon (because I use not Gentoo, but Sabayon) and my old
Ubuntu 11.10 distro in an other partition.

Okay, I try the LFS with any other host distro. Make a suggestion to me,
please, which distro would be good for this procedure? No LiveCD please, I
have an empty almost 100 GB partitio for the host system. Please propose a
distro which has MC... I CAN use the commandline without MC, good, but WITH
mc it is much easyer and faster. I am not profi in the Linux, but no
beginner. Maybe "power user". I can write not too difficult bash scripts,
can programming in C/C++ (and a little bit in assembly...), my preferred
window manager is the DWM, but I am newbie in the LFS, because I not
understand good how the "configure", the "make", "autoconf", "automake"
 and the linker work, not know they's syntax, etc. I am in the Linux
autodidact, self-educated, I was never learned it in any school or training
course. Actually/as a matter of fact, I was begin the LFS even just exactly
because I would like to know FULLY, how a Linux system work, and because I
very not like the bloatware distros (named *buntu, etc) with lot of (for
me) superfluous programs. I like, agree, approve the
suckless.orgphilosophy. I like the commandline and the
commandline-based programs (and
ncurses). But sorry, I not have a good "mentor"... Thus, what host distro
do you suggest for me, which work good (tested) sure to this LFS?

Zoli


2013/10/23 Ken Moffat 

> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 05:49:27PM -0400, Viola Zoltán wrote:
> > @akhiezer:
> >
> > I tryed:
> >
> > CFLAGS="-O2 -g" make
> >
> > but no changed:
> >
>
>  My final suggestion is : try a different host distro.  The recent
> google matches for this were almost all for people updating packages
> on gentoo, which is why I suspect gentoo's hardening.
>
>  There was one similar error for someone doing something on fedora,
> but at the moment I regard that as an outlier (it had no responses
> and apparently remains unresolved).
>
>  One of the gentoo threads suggested that these errors could come
> from memory problems (test with memtest86), but I suspect there must
> also be something in the hardening which has an influence, because
> you are not getting a segfault.
>
> ĸen
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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Ken Moffat]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 05:49:27PM -0400, Viola Zoltán wrote:
> @akhiezer:
> 
> I tryed:
> 
> CFLAGS="-O2 -g" make
> 
> but no changed:
> 

 My final suggestion is : try a different host distro.  The recent
google matches for this were almost all for people updating packages
on gentoo, which is why I suspect gentoo's hardening.

 There was one similar error for someone doing something on fedora,
but at the moment I regard that as an outlier (it had no responses
and apparently remains unresolved).

 One of the gentoo threads suggested that these errors could come
from memory problems (test with memtest86), but I suspect there must
also be something in the hardening which has an influence, because
you are not getting a segfault.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Viola Zoltán]

1:34:56 2013
>> > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:16:23 -0400
>> > From: Viola Zoltán 
>> > To: akhiezer ,
>> > LFS Support List 
>> > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5.
>> GCC-4.8.1 -
>> >  Pass 1
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sorry, nothing change. I was deleted all GCC source, begin from first
>> the
>> > 5.5 chapter (compiling of GCC), with this command (after the configure):
>> >
>> >  CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti" make
>> >
>> > but it write me this error message:
>> >
>> >
>> > /bin/sh ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../move-if-change tmp-latencytab.c
>> > insn-latencytab.c
>> > echo timestamp > s-attrtab
>> > g++ -c   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
>> > -fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
>> > -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
>> > -Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
>> > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/.
>> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
>> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
>> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
>> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
>> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
>> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
>> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
>> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktraceinsn-attrtab.c -o
>> insn-attrtab.o
>> > g++ -c   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
>> > -fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
>> > -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
>> > -Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
>> > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DGENERATOR_FILE -I. -Ibuild -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc
>> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/build -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include
>> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
>> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
>> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
>> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
>> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
>> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
>> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
>> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktrace\
>> > -o build/genautomata.o ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/genautomata.c
>> > g++   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
>> > -fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
>> > -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
>> > -Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
>> > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DGENERATOR_FILE -static-libstdc++ -static-libgcc  -o
>> > build/genautomata \
>> > build/genautomata.o build/rtl.o build/read-rtl.o build/ggc-none.o
>> > build/vec.o build/min-insn-modes.o build/gensupport.o build/print-rtl.o
>> > build/read-md.o build/errors.o
>> > ../build-i686-pc-linux-gnu/libiberty/libiberty.a -lm
>> > build/genautomata ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/i386/i386.md \
>> >   insn-conditions.md > tmp-automata.c
>> > /bin/sh: line 1: 12525 Bus error   build/genautomata
>> > ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/i386/i386.md insn-conditions.md >
>> tmp-automata.c
>> > make[2]: *** [s-automata] Error 135
>> > make[2]: Leaving directory `/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/gcc'
>> > make[1]: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
>> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build'
>> > make: *** [all] Error 2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/10/23 akhiezer 
>> >
>> > > > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:01:40 +0100
>> > > > From: (akhiezer)
>> > > > To: LFS Support List 
>> > > > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5.
>> > > GCC-4.8.1 -
>> > > >  Pass 1
>> > > >
>> > > > > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:41:24 -0400
>> > > > > From: Viola Zoltán 
>> > > > > To: LFS Support List 
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5.
>> > > GCC-4.8.1 -
>> > > > >  Pass 1
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >

Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Viola Zoltán]

The full printenv output:

TERM=xterm
OLDPWD=/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build
LC_ALL=POSIX
LS_COLORS=rs=0:di=01;34:ln=01;36:mh=00:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=01;05;37;41:mi=01;05;37;41:su=37;41:sg=30;43:ca=30;41:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.lzma=01;31:*.tlz=01;31:*.txz=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.dz=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.lz=01;31:*.xz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tbz=01;31:*.tbz2=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.war=01;31:*.ear=01;31:*.sar=01;31:*.rar=01;31:*.ace=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.7z=01;31:*.rz=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.svg=01;35:*.svgz=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.mkv=01;35:*.webm=01;35:*.ogm=01;35:*.mp4=01;35:*.m4v=01;35:*.mp4v=01;35:*.vob=01;35:*.qt=01;35:*.nuv=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.asf=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.rmvb=01;35:*.flc=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.flv=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.yuv=01;35:*.cgm=01;35:*.emf=01;35:*.axv=01;35:*.anx=01;35:*.ogv=01;35:*.ogx=01;35:*.pdf=00;32:*.ps=00;32:*.txt=00;32:*.patch=00;32:*.diff=00;32:*.log=00;32:*.tex=00;32:*.doc=00;32:*.aac=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.mka=00;36:*.mp3=00;36:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.ra=00;36:*.wav=00;36:*.axa=00;36:*.oga=00;36:*.spx=00;36:*.xspf=00;36:
LFS=/Mount/Simplicity
PATH=/tools/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
PWD=/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build
LFS_TGT=i686-lfs-linux-gnu
PS1=\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[01;34m\] \w \$\[\033[00m\]
SHLVL=1
HOME=/home/lfs
_=/usr/bin/printenv



2013/10/23 akhiezer 

> > From lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org Wed Oct 23 21:34:56 2013
> > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:16:23 -0400
> > From: Viola Zoltán 
> > To: akhiezer ,
> > LFS Support List 
> > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5.
> GCC-4.8.1 -
> >  Pass 1
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry, nothing change. I was deleted all GCC source, begin from first the
> > 5.5 chapter (compiling of GCC), with this command (after the configure):
> >
> >  CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti" make
> >
> > but it write me this error message:
> >
> >
> > /bin/sh ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../move-if-change tmp-latencytab.c
> > insn-latencytab.c
> > echo timestamp > s-attrtab
> > g++ -c   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
> > -fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
> > -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
> > -Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
> > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/.
> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktraceinsn-attrtab.c -o insn-attrtab.o
> > g++ -c   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
> > -fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
> > -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
> > -Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
> > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DGENERATOR_FILE -I. -Ibuild -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc
> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/build -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include
> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
> > -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
> > -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktrace\
> > -o build/genautomata.o ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/genautomata.c
> > g++   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
> > -fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
> > -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
> > -Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
> > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DGENERATOR_FILE -static-libstdc++ -static-libgcc  -o
> > build/genautomata \
> > build/genautomata.o build/rtl.o build/read-rtl.o build/ggc-none.o
> > build/vec.o build/min-insn-modes.o build/gensupport

Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[akhiezer]

> From lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org Wed Oct 23 21:34:56 2013
> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:16:23 -0400
> From: Viola Zoltán 
> To: akhiezer ,
> LFS Support List 
> Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 -
>  Pass 1
>
>
>
> Sorry, nothing change. I was deleted all GCC source, begin from first the
> 5.5 chapter (compiling of GCC), with this command (after the configure):
>
>  CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti" make
>
> but it write me this error message:
>
>
> /bin/sh ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../move-if-change tmp-latencytab.c
> insn-latencytab.c
> echo timestamp > s-attrtab
> g++ -c   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
> -fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
> -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
> -Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
> -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/.
> -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
> -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
> -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
> -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
> -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
> -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
> -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
> -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktraceinsn-attrtab.c -o insn-attrtab.o
> g++ -c   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
> -fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
> -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
> -Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
> -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DGENERATOR_FILE -I. -Ibuild -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc
> -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/build -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include
> -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
> -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
> -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
> -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
> -I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
> -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
> -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
> -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktrace\
> -o build/genautomata.o ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/genautomata.c
> g++   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
> -fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
> -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
> -Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
> -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DGENERATOR_FILE -static-libstdc++ -static-libgcc  -o
> build/genautomata \
> build/genautomata.o build/rtl.o build/read-rtl.o build/ggc-none.o
> build/vec.o build/min-insn-modes.o build/gensupport.o build/print-rtl.o
> build/read-md.o build/errors.o
> ../build-i686-pc-linux-gnu/libiberty/libiberty.a -lm
> build/genautomata ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/i386/i386.md \
>   insn-conditions.md > tmp-automata.c
> /bin/sh: line 1: 12525 Bus error   build/genautomata
> ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/i386/i386.md insn-conditions.md > tmp-automata.c
> make[2]: *** [s-automata] Error 135
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/gcc'
> make[1]: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
>
>
> 2013/10/23 akhiezer 
>
> > > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:01:40 +0100
> > > From: (akhiezer)
> > > To: LFS Support List 
> > > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5.
> > GCC-4.8.1 -
> > >  Pass 1
> > >
> > > > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:41:24 -0400
> > > > From: Viola Zoltán 
> > > > To: LFS Support List 
> > > > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5.
> > GCC-4.8.1 -
> > > >  Pass 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Excuse me, I am very newbie and very idiotic... I tryed it:
> > > >
> > > > CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti"; make
> > > >
> > > > CFLAGS="--fno-exceptions --fno-rtti"; make
> > > >
> > > > but nothing changed, the compile not succeeded, same error message...
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  - shouldn't that be:
> > >
> > >   CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti" make
> > >
> > >  - i.e. without the semi-colon (';') ; and normally just use the
> > single-dash ('-')
> > > format for those options (i.e. '-f...' instead of '--f...&#

Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Viola Zoltán]

Sorry, nothing change. I was deleted all GCC source, begin from first the
5.5 chapter (compiling of GCC), with this command (after the configure):

 CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti" make

but it write me this error message:


/bin/sh ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../move-if-change tmp-latencytab.c
insn-latencytab.c
echo timestamp > s-attrtab
g++ -c   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
-fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
-Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
-Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/.
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktraceinsn-attrtab.c -o insn-attrtab.o
g++ -c   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
-fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
-Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
-Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DGENERATOR_FILE -I. -Ibuild -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/build -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktrace\
-o build/genautomata.o ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/genautomata.c
g++   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_DIRECTORY_STRUCTURE  -fno-exceptions
-fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing
-Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic
-Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DGENERATOR_FILE -static-libstdc++ -static-libgcc  -o
build/genautomata \
build/genautomata.o build/rtl.o build/read-rtl.o build/ggc-none.o
build/vec.o build/min-insn-modes.o build/gensupport.o build/print-rtl.o
build/read-md.o build/errors.o
../build-i686-pc-linux-gnu/libiberty/libiberty.a -lm
build/genautomata ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/i386/i386.md \
  insn-conditions.md > tmp-automata.c
/bin/sh: line 1: 12525 Bus error   build/genautomata
../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/i386/i386.md insn-conditions.md > tmp-automata.c
make[2]: *** [s-automata] Error 135
make[2]: Leaving directory `/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/gcc'
make[1]: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build'
make: *** [all] Error 2



2013/10/23 akhiezer 

> > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:01:40 +0100
> > From: (akhiezer)
> > To: LFS Support List 
> > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5.
> GCC-4.8.1 -
> >  Pass 1
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:41:24 -0400
> > > From: Viola Zoltán 
> > > To: LFS Support List 
> > > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5.
> GCC-4.8.1 -
> > >  Pass 1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Excuse me, I am very newbie and very idiotic... I tryed it:
> > >
> > > CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti"; make
> > >
> > > CFLAGS="--fno-exceptions --fno-rtti"; make
> > >
> > > but nothing changed, the compile not succeeded, same error message...
> > >
> >
> >
> >  - shouldn't that be:
> >
> >   CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti" make
> >
> >  - i.e. without the semi-colon (';') ; and normally just use the
> single-dash ('-')
> > format for those options (i.e. '-f...' instead of '--f...')  .
> >
> > (Also, fwiw, for a make command-line I'd normally put such variables
> _after_ the
> > 'make': make [ -f makefile ] [ options ] ... [ targets ] ... ).
> >
> >
> > hth
> > akh
> >
> > p.s. also try to avoid top-posting.
> >
>
>
>  - although, as Ken says, he's asking you to retry the make with the
> '-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti' options omitted - iff certain conditions are
> met -
> per details of Ken's 2+ messages (the stuff re '-O2 -g', etc).
>
>
> akh
>
>
>
>
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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[akhiezer]

> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:01:40 +0100
> From: (akhiezer)
> To: LFS Support List 
> Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 -
>  Pass 1
>
> > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:41:24 -0400
> > From: Viola Zoltán 
> > To: LFS Support List 
> > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 -
> >  Pass 1
> >
> >
> >
> > Excuse me, I am very newbie and very idiotic... I tryed it:
> >
> > CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti"; make
> >
> > CFLAGS="--fno-exceptions --fno-rtti"; make
> >
> > but nothing changed, the compile not succeeded, same error message...
> >
>
>
>  - shouldn't that be:
>
>   CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti" make
>
>  - i.e. without the semi-colon (';') ; and normally just use the single-dash 
> ('-') 
> format for those options (i.e. '-f...' instead of '--f...')  .
>
> (Also, fwiw, for a make command-line I'd normally put such variables _after_ 
> the 
> 'make': make [ -f makefile ] [ options ] ... [ targets ] ... ).
>
>
> hth
> akh
>
> p.s. also try to avoid top-posting.
>


 - although, as Ken says, he's asking you to retry the make with the 
'-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti' options omitted - iff certain conditions are met - 
per details of Ken's 2+ messages (the stuff re '-O2 -g', etc).


akh




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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[akhiezer]

> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:41:24 -0400
> From: Viola Zoltán 
> To: LFS Support List 
> Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 -
>  Pass 1
>
>
>
> Excuse me, I am very newbie and very idiotic... I tryed it:
>
> CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti"; make
>
> CFLAGS="--fno-exceptions --fno-rtti"; make
>
> but nothing changed, the compile not succeeded, same error message...
>


 - shouldn't that be:

  CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti" make

 - i.e. without the semi-colon (';') ; and normally just use the single-dash 
('-') 
format for those options (i.e. '-f...' instead of '--f...')  .

(Also, fwiw, for a make command-line I'd normally put such variables _after_ 
the 
'make': make [ -f makefile ] [ options ] ... [ targets ] ... ).


hth
akh

p.s. also try to avoid top-posting.





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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Pierre Labastie]

Le 22/10/2013 23:31, Viola Zoltán a écrit :
>
> lfs@Csiszilla ~ $ cat .bashrc
> set +h
> umask 022
> LFS=/Mount/Simplicity
> LC_ALL=POSIX
> LFS_TGT=$(uname -m)-pc-linux-gnu
Should be :

|LFS_TGT=$(uname -m)-lfs-linux-gnu

See section 4.4 and 5.2 for why.
|

> PATH=/tools/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
> export LFS LC_ALL LFS_TGT PATH
> alias mc='. /usr/libexec/mc/mc-wrapper.sh'
The last line is not from the book. I do not think it is related to the 
described failure, though, but who knows?
If you are really a newbie, try to follow exactly the book.

Regards
Pierre


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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Ken Moffat]

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 07:41:24PM -0400, Viola Zoltán wrote:
> Excuse me, I am very newbie and very idiotic... I tryed it:
> 
> CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti"; make
> 
> CFLAGS="--fno-exceptions --fno-rtti"; make
> 
> but nothing changed, the compile not succeeded, same error message...
> 
 I intended you to try REMOVING those CFLAGS by setting CFLAGS to
just -O2 -g, but ONLY if they were already set in your LFS user's
CFLAGS.  I know you posted some variables in your original post, but
perhaps your lfs user has mangaged to acquire some other settings
from the host distro ?  I don't understand the details of gentoo,
but running 'printenv' as the lfs user should enable you to check
that if you are in any doubt.  Or 'printenv | less' if htings have
been picked up.

 Also, if you do change anything like that you need to use freshly
untarred source and a fresh (empty) build directory, and specify
them when you run configure.

 But I think the most likely problem is that your gentoo system has
been hardened, and I have no idea how to deal with that.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Viola Zoltán]

Excuse me, I am very newbie and very idiotic... I tryed it:

CFLAGS="-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti"; make

CFLAGS="--fno-exceptions --fno-rtti"; make

but nothing changed, the compile not succeeded, same error message...



2013/10/22 Ken Moffat 

> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:12:09PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
> >
> >  Someone in another gentoo response suggested reducing the CFLAGS to
> > something sane - if you are following LFS exactly, then the default
> > CFLAGS from the package should be used.  I -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti
> > are from the package.  But if you did set those, try without them.
> >
>  That second sentence should start
>
> I assume -fno-exceptions ...
>   ^^
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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Ken Moffat]

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:12:09PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
> 
>  Someone in another gentoo response suggested reducing the CFLAGS to
> something sane - if you are following LFS exactly, then the default
> CFLAGS from the package should be used.  I -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti
> are from the package.  But if you did set those, try without them.
> 
 That second sentence should start

I assume -fno-exceptions ...
  ^^
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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Ken Moffat]

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 05:31:19PM -0400, Viola Zoltán wrote:
> Hi, excuse me for the bad English... I try LFS from Sabayon host system,
> with this GCC version:
> 
> lfs@Csiszilla /Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build $ gcc --version
> gcc (Gentoo Hardened 4.7.2-r1 p1.5, pie-0.5.5) 4.7.2
> 
> The "binutils" succeeded. The GCC not. It wrote me this error message:
> 

> build/genautomata ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/i386/i386.md \
>   insn-conditions.md > tmp-automata.c
> /bin/sh: line 1: 24043 Bus error   build/genautomata
> ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/i386/i386.md insn-conditions.md > tmp-automata.c
> make[3]: *** [s-automata] Error 135
> 

 Apparently, a bus error differs from a segfault - valid memory is
being accessed in an invalid way.  The example google found was for
unaligned accesses on architectures where those are illegal.  i686
is generally very permissive, so I can't imagine what sort of access
would cause this.

 Google did find similar examples on gentoo lists (users trying to
emerge gcc and getting a Bus error).  Apparently, the pie setting
was involved.  I've no idea how you would reduce the hardening on a
gentoo system.

 Someone in another gentoo response suggested reducing the CFLAGS to
something sane - if you are following LFS exactly, then the default
CFLAGS from the package should be used.  I -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti
are from the package.  But if you did set those, try without them.

> My significant variables:
> 
> lfs@Csiszilla /Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build $ echo $LFS
> /Mount/Simplicity

 Might work nowadays, but we always recommend /mnt/lfs.

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[lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

[Viola Zoltán]

Hi, excuse me for the bad English... I try LFS from Sabayon host system,
with this GCC version:

lfs@Csiszilla /Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build $ gcc --version
gcc (Gentoo Hardened 4.7.2-r1 p1.5, pie-0.5.5) 4.7.2

The "binutils" succeeded. The GCC not. It wrote me this error message:

 -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktrace   \
../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/i386/i386-c.c
build/genhooks "C Target Hook" \
 > tmp-c-target-hooks-def.h
/bin/sh ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../move-if-change tmp-c-target-hooks-def.h \
 c-family/c-target-hooks-def.h
echo timestamp > s-c-target-hooks-def-h
g++ -c  -DIN_GCC_FRONTEND -DIN_GCC_FRONTEND -g -O2 -DIN_GCC
-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall
-Wno-narrowing -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute
-pedantic -Wno-long-long -Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings
-fno-common  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/. -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktrace\
  ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/glibc-c.c -o glibc-c.o
g++ -c   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC   -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing -Wwrite-strings
-Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic -Wno-long-long
-Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings -fno-common  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-DGENERATOR_FILE -I. -Ibuild -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/build -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktrace\
-o build/genchecksum.o ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/genchecksum.c
g++   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC   -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing -Wwrite-strings
-Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic -Wno-long-long
-Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings -fno-common  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-DGENERATOR_FILE -static-libstdc++ -static-libgcc  -o build/genchecksum \
build/genchecksum.o ../build-i686-pc-linux-gnu/libiberty/libiberty.a
echo "g++   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC   -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing -Wwrite-strings
-Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic -Wno-long-long
-Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings -fno-common  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-static-libstdc++ -static-libgcc " > checksum-options.tmp \
&& ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../move-if-change checksum-options.tmp
checksum-options
g++ -c   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC   -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing -Wwrite-strings
-Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic -Wno-long-long
-Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings -fno-common  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-DGENERATOR_FILE -I. -Ibuild -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/build -I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../include
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libcpp/include
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/./gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/gmp
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-build/../gcc-4.8.1/mpfr/src
-I/Mount/Simplicity/sources/gcc-4.8.1/mpc/src
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libdecnumber/dpd -I../libdecnumber
-I../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../libbacktrace\
-o build/genattrtab.o ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/genattrtab.c
g++   -g -O2 -DIN_GCC   -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wno-narrowing -Wwrite-strings
-Wcast-qual -Wmissing-format-attribute -pedantic -Wno-long-long
-Wno-variadic-macros -Wno-overlength-strings -fno-common  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-DGENERATOR_FILE -static-libstdc++ -static-libgcc  -o build/genattrtab \
build/genattrtab.o build/rtl.o build/read-rtl.o build/ggc-none.o
build/vec.o build/min-insn-modes.o build/gensupport.o build/print-rtl.o
build/read-md.o build/errors.o
../build-i686-pc-linux-gnu/libiberty/libiberty.a
build/genattrtab ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/config/i386/i386.md insn-conditions.md\
-Atmp-attrtab.c -Dtmp-dfatab.c -Ltmp-latencytab.c
/bin/sh ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../move-if-change tmp-attrtab.c
insn-attrtab.c
/bin/sh ../../gcc-4.8.1/gcc/../move-if-change tmp-dfatab.c insn-d

Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[Aleksandar Kuktin]

>On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:32:57 -0500
>William Harrington  wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 16, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote:
> 
> > As stated above, you can use the LFS live CD although it is rather  
> > old.
> 
> Can't build current LFS with LFS 6.3 livecd. That's why I've updated  
> it. But that will soon come to an end with gcc-4.8.x targets.
> 
> the 6.3 livecd uses gcc 4.1.2 which has no Wno-narrowing and another  
> variable which causes issues when cross compiling.
> 
> I'd need to update the livecd to at least gcc 4.4 or 4.5 to get rid
> of it, not a problem, just letting you know.
> 
> A new LFS livecd needs to be available, or get rid of it and have a  
> wiki for people to look toward to hosts that work wtih LFS and the  
> commands required to get them to the point if they don't meet the
> host system requirements.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> William Harrington

I had a general idea that there are people who maintain the livecd, but
I didn't know much more about it.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[Philippe Delavalade]

Le vendredi 16 août à 20:46, inquiring.m...@hushmail.com a écrit :
> Hello all,
>
> 1. I just saw the LFS site and would like to try it but can't see the
> section that says how to download the source file packages ready to work
> through the programme.

Hi.

To buld LFS, a minimal knowledge about linux is required. You should know
how to get the packages :-)

> 2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use as a
> base that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the host
> requirements page
> (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html)
> as all the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo,
> etc) all fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on BISON while
> others on GCC, a package I suspect to be rather important in this
> endeavour.

The grml livecd based on debian was fine except you had to change from zsh
to bash but I don't know about it now. Have a look at 

> 3. I recently bought a new computer with no OS on it just for installing
> Linux on it and learning more about it so LFS seemed to be ideal. It's a
> new platform with UEFI instead of the older BIOS a 3TB HDD. I read that
> on drives like this, the old fdisk tool is insufficient but the only
> instructions I've seen in the manual are for the older, fdisk
> programme. I read something about needing to install a FAT32 partition at
> the start or something like that but wasn't sure if this was right or not
> as I know that FS is quite different to any *nix based filesystems.

You need gdisk.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[Unix User]

Hi


>>  2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use as 
> a base that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the host 
> requirements 
> page (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html) 
> as 
> all the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo, 
> etc) all fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on BISON while others 
> on 
> GCC, a package I suspect to be rather important in this endeavour.
> 
> I'd say some Debian or Gentoo LiveCD works fine. At the starting of the 
> book,
> you'll be able to check wether you have host prerequisities and, otherwise, 
> install
> the needed. Ubuntu seems to cause, sometimes, issues, but maybe things have 
> changed.

Indeed, using Ubuntu as host system you will see /bin/sh -> /bin/dash in 
version-check output (host system requirements). Since you will encounter 
errors using dash shell you really want to change from dash to bash - as you 
can read in the archive [1] I had to learn it, too. 

[1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lfs.support/37167

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[Bruce Dubbs]

Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

> As far I know, you can toogle, in your "bios", between classical and UEFI 
> mode.
> You should enable classic mode.

Not with a 3T drive.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[Bruce Dubbs]

Aleksandar Kuktin wrote:
> Hello and welcome. Feel as if at home.
>
>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:46:24 +0100
>> inquiring.m...@hushmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> 1. I just saw the LFS site and would like to try it but can't see the
>> section that says how to download the source file packages ready to
>> work through the programme.
>
> You either have to download them yourself, one at a time, or get
> yourself a copy of the LFS live CD which has them all in one place.

They are at http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/sources/LFS/lfs-packages/

7.4-rc1 should be there later today.

> The fdisk manual page states that fdisk was, in fact, not designed for
> big partitions. It further states that one should use the more advanced
> GNU parted for such disks. Therefore, use parted. And I'm pretty sure
> you can ignore that "FAT32 at the start" part.

For a EFI based system it can be a little tricky.  Let a distro do it 
the first time.  gdisk is easier to use than parted.

No, you don't need a FAT partition, but you do need a small (1 MB) grub 
partition. Keep ALL boundaries aligned with even MB to avoid possible 
problems.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[William Harrington]

On Aug 16, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote:

As stated above, you can use the LFS live CD although it is rather  
old.


Can't build current LFS with LFS 6.3 livecd. That's why I've updated  
it. But that will soon come to an end with gcc-4.8.x targets.


the 6.3 livecd uses gcc 4.1.2 which has no Wno-narrowing and another  
variable which causes issues when cross compiling.


I'd need to update the livecd to at least gcc 4.4 or 4.5 to get rid of  
it, not a problem, just letting you know.


A new LFS livecd needs to be available, or get rid of it and have a  
wiki for people to look toward to hosts that work wtih LFS and the  
commands required to get them to the point if they don't meet the host  
system requirements.


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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[Aleksandar Kuktin]

Hello and welcome. Feel as if at home.

>On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:46:24 +0100
>inquiring.m...@hushmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> 
> 1. I just saw the LFS site and would like to try it but can't see the
> section that says how to download the source file packages ready to
> work through the programme.

You either have to download them yourself, one at a time, or get
yourself a copy of the LFS live CD which has them all in one place.

However, I am pretty certain that the LFS live CD has not been
maintained for some time and therefore the packages you can find on one
will almost certainly be old.

> 2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use
> as a base that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the host
> requirements page
> (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html)
> as all the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS,
> Gentoo, etc) all fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on
> BISON while others on GCC, a package I suspect to be rather important
> in this endeavour.

As stated above, you can use the LFS live CD although it is rather old.

The other alternative is to take a distro which is close to what you
need and just add the missing stuff to it.

> 3. I recently bought a new computer with no OS on it just for
> installing Linux on it and learning more about it so LFS seemed to be
> ideal. It's a new platform with UEFI instead of the older BIOS a 3TB
> HDD. I read that on drives like this, the old fdisk tool is
> insufficient but the only instructions I've seen in the manual are
> for the older, fdisk programme. I read something about needing to
> install a FAT32 partition at the start or something like that but
> wasn't sure if this was right or not as I know that FS is quite
> different to any *nix based filesystems.

The fdisk manual page states that fdisk was, in fact, not designed for
big partitions. It further states that one should use the more advanced
GNU parted for such disks. Therefore, use parted. And I'm pretty sure
you can ignore that "FAT32 at the start" part.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[Jean-Philippe MENGUAL]

On vendredi 16 août 2013 à 19:46:24 (+0100), inquiring.m...@hushmail.com wrote:
> Hello all,

Hi,

> 1. I just saw the LFS site and would like to try it but can't see the section 
> that says how to download the source file packages ready to work through the 
> programme.

LFS is a book. On the website, in section LFS, you can download it or read it
on line. Read all the book and you will have a fepter in it which will help you
downloading all xou need. But read the whole book (except maybe the changelog).
Don't skip anything. To download the packages, everything is explained chap3.

> 2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use as a base 
> that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the host requirements page 
> (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html) as 
> all the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo, etc) 
> all fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on BISON while others on 
> GCC, a package I suspect to be rather important in this endeavour.

I'd say some Debian or Gentoo LiveCD works fine. At the starting of the book,
you'll be able to check wether you have host prerequisities and, otherwise, 
install
the needed. Ubuntu seems to cause, sometimes, issues, but maybe things have 
changed.

> 3. I recently bought a new computer with no OS on it just for installing 
> Linux on it and learning more about it so LFS seemed to be ideal. It's a new 
> platform with UEFI instead of the older BIOS a 3TB HDD. I read that on drives 
> like this, the old fdisk tool is insufficient but the only instructions I've 
> seen in the manual are for the older, fdisk programme. I read something about 
> needing to install a FAT32 partition at the start or something like that but 
> wasn't sure if this was right or not as I know that FS is quite different to 
> any *nix based filesystems.

As far I know, you can toogle, in your "bios", between classical and UEFI mode.
You should enable classic mode.

Your question goes beyond the primary purpose of the project. I don't know. You
should read how to install a classical distro such as Debian, Arch or Gentoo on
such configurations. As you'll see, lfs doesn't explain topics such as kernel
configuration, etc. You should learn more about these stuff before starting
such build.

> I realise there are a few different points here but would appreciate some 
> help on this to get me started.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> IM.
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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[William Harrington]

On Aug 16, 2013, at 1:46 PM, inquiring.m...@hushmail.com wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> 1. I just saw the LFS site and would like to try it but can't see  
> the section that says how to download the source file packages ready  
> to work through the programme.
>
> 2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use  
> as a base that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the  
> host requirements page 
> (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html 
> ) as all the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS,  
> Gentoo, etc) all fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on  
> BISON while others on GCC, a package I suspect to be rather  
> important in this endeavour.
>
> 3. I recently bought a new computer with no OS on it just for  
> installing Linux on it and learning more about it so LFS seemed to  
> be ideal. It's a new platform with UEFI instead of the older BIOS a  
> 3TB HDD. I read that on drives like this, the old fdisk tool is  
> insufficient but the only instructions I've seen in the manual are  
> for the older, fdisk programme. I read something about needing to  
> install a FAT32 partition at the start or something like that but  
> wasn't sure if this was right or not as I know that FS is quite  
> different to any *nix based filesystems.
>
> I realise there are a few different points here but would appreciate  
> some help on this to get me started.

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/prerequisites.html

You should know how to download packages. The links are given in the  
section of the book about packages and patches.

For a livecd you can use the one I keep updated 
http://cross-lfs.org/~kb0iic/livecdupd/

or any other livecd which meets the host system requirements. The host  
sys reqs page does state that dev packages may need to be installed.

There are wikis about configuring bootloaders for EUFI, and if you  
have the above and patience and don't want quick answers and can  
search mailing lists and documentation, then you will most likely  
succeed.

LFS has a FAQ, has a mailing list (which is archived by gmane and  
others to search), do not take the LFS support page and download page  
and book for granted. Read and comprehend and have fun building LFS.

Sincerely,

William Harrington
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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[Carl Thorn]

 From: "inquiring.m...@hushmail.com" 
To: lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org 
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 1:46 PM
Subject: [lfs-support] Newbie
 

Hello all,

1. I just saw the LFS site and would like to try it but can't see the section 
that says how to download the source file packages ready to work through the 
programme.

2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use as a base 
that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the host requirements page 
(http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html) as all 
the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo, etc) all 
fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on BISON while others on GCC, a 
package I suspect to be rather important in this endeavour.

3. I recently bought a new computer with no OS on it just for installing Linux 
on it and learning more about it so LFS seemed to be ideal. It's a new platform 
with UEFI instead of the older BIOS a 3TB HDD. I read that on drives like this, 
the old fdisk tool is insufficient but the only instructions I've seen in the 
manual are for the older, fdisk programme. I read something about needing to 
install a FAT32 partition at the start or something like that but wasn't sure 
if this was right or not as I know that FS is quite different to any *nix based 
filesystems.

I realise there are a few different points here but would appreciate some help 
on this to get me started.

Thanks in advance.

IM.
Any distribution will do. Use unetbootin and put the image on a usb drive 
allowing space to save your work Then add any packages you may need to meet the 
host requirements.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

[Bruce Dubbs]

inquiring.m...@hushmail.com wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> 1. I just saw the LFS site and would like to try it but can't see the
> section that says how to download the source file packages ready to
> work through the programme.
>
> 2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use
> as a base that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the host
> requirements page
> (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html)
> as all the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS,
> Gentoo, etc) all fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on
> BISON while others on GCC, a package I suspect to be rather important
> in this endeavour.

Any of those should be OK, but you will need to update them by adding a 
few packages.  The procedures you use depend on which is used.

> 3. I recently bought a new computer with no OS on it just for
> installing Linux on it and learning more about it so LFS seemed to be
> ideal. It's a new platform with UEFI instead of the older BIOS a 3TB
> HDD. I read that on drives like this, the old fdisk tool is
> insufficient but the only instructions I've seen in the manual are
> for the older, fdisk programme. I read something about needing to
> install a FAT32 partition at the start or something like that but
> wasn't sure if this was right or not as I know that FS is quite
> different to any *nix based filesystems.

You will need to install a GPT partition table.  The distros above 
should do that for you.  Just make sure to leave room for LFS. 
Generally a build partition of 10G is plenty.  Personally, I'd keep the 
*buntu, RH, etc partition small.  10G is fine for them too.

   -- Bruce

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[lfs-support] Newbie

[inquiring . mind]

Hello all,

1. I just saw the LFS site and would like to try it but can't see the section 
that says how to download the source file packages ready to work through the 
programme.

2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use as a base 
that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the host requirements page 
(http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html) as all 
the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo, etc) all 
fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on BISON while others on GCC, a 
package I suspect to be rather important in this endeavour.

3. I recently bought a new computer with no OS on it just for installing Linux 
on it and learning more about it so LFS seemed to be ideal. It's a new platform 
with UEFI instead of the older BIOS a 3TB HDD. I read that on drives like this, 
the old fdisk tool is insufficient but the only instructions I've seen in the 
manual are for the older, fdisk programme. I read something about needing to 
install a FAT32 partition at the start or something like that but wasn't sure 
if this was right or not as I know that FS is quite different to any *nix based 
filesystems (http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/gdisk.html)

I realise there are a few different points here but would appreciate some help 
on this to get me started.

Thanks in advance.

IM.

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[lfs-support] Newbie

[inquiring . mind]

Hello all,

1. I just saw the LFS site and would like to try it but can't see the section 
that says how to download the source file packages ready to work through the 
programme.

2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use as a base 
that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the host requirements page 
(http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html) as all 
the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo, etc) all 
fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on BISON while others on GCC, a 
package I suspect to be rather important in this endeavour.

3. I recently bought a new computer with no OS on it just for installing Linux 
on it and learning more about it so LFS seemed to be ideal. It's a new platform 
with UEFI instead of the older BIOS a 3TB HDD. I read that on drives like this, 
the old fdisk tool is insufficient but the only instructions I've seen in the 
manual are for the older, fdisk programme. I read something about needing to 
install a FAT32 partition at the start or something like that but wasn't sure 
if this was right or not as I know that FS is quite different to any *nix based 
filesystems.

I realise there are a few different points here but would appreciate some help 
on this to get me started.

Thanks in advance.

IM.

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