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Re: [lfs-support] (no subject)

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>   1. Requesting to include about Package-management in lfsbook
>  (charith madhuranga)
>   2. Re: Requesting to include about Package-management in lfs
>  book (Bruce Dubbs)
>   3. Re: Requesting to include about Package-management in lfs
>  book (Baho Utot)
>   4. Re: Requesting to include about Package-management in lfs
>  book (Don Cross)
>   5. Re: Requesting to include about Package-management in lfs
>  book (Michele Bucca)
>   6. Re: Requesting to include about Package-management in lfs
>  book (Baho Utot)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 00:35:26 +0530
> From: charith madhuranga 
> To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
> Subject: [lfs-support] Requesting to include about Package-management
>in lfsbook
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> I think its better to include  about package-management in  lfs book.At 
> least about popular one like deb or rpm . It will help reader to get a 
> proper idea about package-management in linux and how they function to 
> make linux system management easy for the users.Lack of documentation 
> about how to combine the lfs knowledge  with package-managment  make it  
> frustrating.Please be kind enough to consider about above matter and 
> share your knowledge with us.
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 14:42:47 -0500
> From: Bruce Dubbs 
> To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
> Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Requesting to include about
>Package-management in lfs book
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>> On 06/06/2018 02:05 PM, charith madhuranga wrote:
>> I think its better to include  about package-management in  lfs book.At 
>> least about popular one like deb or rpm . It will help reader to get a 
>> proper idea about package-management in linux and how they function to 
>> make linux system management easy for the users.Lack of documentation 
>> about how to combine the lfs knowledge  with package-managment  make it 
>> frustrating.Please be kind enough to consider about above matter and 
>> share your knowledge with us.
> 
> Have you read Section 6.3?  What wording would you suggest?  Note that 
> rpm and apt-get are not easily supported in source based installations.
> 
>   -- Bruce
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:11:28 -0400
> From: Baho Utot 
> To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
> Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Requesting to include about
>Package-management in lfs book
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>> On 6/6/2018 3:42 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>>> On 06/06/2018 02:05 PM, charith madhuranga wrote:
>>> I think its better to include  about package-management in  lfs 
>>> book.At least about popular one like deb or rpm . It will help reader 
>>> to get a proper idea about package-management in linux and how they 
>>> function to make linux system management easy for the users.Lack of 
>>> documentation about how to combine the lfs knowledge  with 
>>> package-managment  make it frustrating.Please be kind enough to 
>>> consider about above matter and share your knowledge with us.
>> 
>> Have you read Section 6.3?  What wording would you suggest?  Note that 
>> rpm and apt-get are not easily supported in source based installations.
>> 
>>   -- Bruce
>> 
> 
> 
> I build rpm into the base system.Tools is straight forward, chapter 6 
> needs some tickling but it can be did.
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:41:21 -0400
> From: Don Cross 
> To: LFS Support List 
> Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Requesting to include about
>Package-management in lfs book
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>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Baho Utot  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 6/6/2018 3:42 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>>> 
 On 06/06/2018 02:05 PM, charith madhuranga wrote:
 
 I think its better to include  about package-management in  lfs book.At
 least about popular one like deb or rpm . It will help reader to get a
 proper idea about package-management in linux and how they fun

Re: [lfs-support] (no subject)

2017-08-15 Thread Armin K.
On 15.08.2017 18:02, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Thomas Seeling wrote:
>> Hallo,
>>
> Could i build lfs system on usb disk?If can what i must write?
>>> I don't see why not. But by default, these drives always have vfat
>>> filesystems on them. You'll have to reformat it in ext4. Once it's
>>> mounted on $LFS, it should behave like any other partition.
>>
>> I was thinking about this same idea some time ago. Imho it's not
>> necessary to format the USB stick with a dedicated Linux filesystem.
>> Most Live Linuxes or install media come formatted with FAT, usually FAT32.
> 
> I've never seen that.  Every live system/iso I've seen has been ext2/3/4.  
> Most recently, everything is ext4.
> 
> FAT doesn't support unix type permissions.
> 
>-- Bruce
> 
> 

Media is formatted with FAT32/ISO9660/UDF, (first one mainly because of UEFI), 
but that doesn't mean Linux
installs they supply use FAT32. Linux root filesystem is often packaged in a 
squashfs image, mounted by initrd,
and both are located on a FAT32/ISO9660/UDF formatted media.
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Re: [lfs-support] (no subject)

2017-08-15 Thread Jeremy Henty

Hazel Russman wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 13:02:44 +0200
> Kuba  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:15:42PM +, Igor B wrote:
> > > Could i build lfs system on usb disk?If can what i must write?
> 
> I don't see  why not. But by default, these  drives always have vfat
> filesystems on them.

That used to be true but my  impression is that these days ntfs is the
default.  Certainly the last usb disk I bought came with a single ntfs
partition.

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Re: [lfs-support] (no subject)

2017-08-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs

Thomas Seeling wrote:

Hallo,


Could i build lfs system on usb disk?If can what i must write?

I don't see why not. But by default, these drives always have vfat
filesystems on them. You'll have to reformat it in ext4. Once it's
mounted on $LFS, it should behave like any other partition.


I was thinking about this same idea some time ago. Imho it's not
necessary to format the USB stick with a dedicated Linux filesystem.
Most Live Linuxes or install media come formatted with FAT, usually FAT32.


I've never seen that.  Every live system/iso I've seen has been ext2/3/4. 
 Most recently, everything is ext4.


FAT doesn't support unix type permissions.

  -- Bruce


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Re: [lfs-support] (no subject)

2017-08-15 Thread Thomas Seeling
Hallo,

>>> Could i build lfs system on usb disk?If can what i must write?
> I don't see why not. But by default, these drives always have vfat 
> filesystems on them. You'll have to reformat it in ext4. Once it's 
> mounted on $LFS, it should behave like any other partition.

I was thinking about this same idea some time ago. Imho it's not
necessary to format the USB stick with a dedicated Linux filesystem.
Most Live Linuxes or install media come formatted with FAT, usually FAT32.

I'd love to learn build a squashfs Linux image, maybe together with
unionfs to make it writable and persistent.

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Re: [lfs-support] (no subject)

2017-08-15 Thread Hazel Russman
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 13:02:44 +0200
Kuba  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:15:42PM +, Igor B wrote:
> > Could i build lfs system on usb disk?If can what i must write?
I don't see why not. But by default, these drives always have vfat filesystems 
on them. You'll have to reformat it in ext4. Once it's mounted on $LFS, it 
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Re: [lfs-support] (no subject)

2017-08-15 Thread Kuba
On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:15:42PM +, Igor B wrote:
> Could i build lfs system on usb disk?If can what i must write?
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2017-08-08 Thread Igor B
Could i build lfs system on usb disk?If can what i must write?

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[lfs-support] (no subject)

2015-12-26 Thread Paul Rogers
> We've never been completely minimalist.

Neither am I!  But my mantra is KISS; above impatience.  I really don't
care about boot times.  That's never more than a miniscule fraction of
my total wait time.

Sytemd definitely violates my idea of KISS!

Nobody uses my boxes but me.  I've never seen any point to extended
attributes, nor ACLs.  Just more complications for what gain?

> If we were, we'd remove vim, among others.

Yeah, I've only used it a few times, under extreme duress.

> I'll note that we do not mention LFS packages in BLFS as dependencies
> at all, so there may be some BLFS packages that may cause problems is
> you skip some LFS packages.

Yes, I read that argument in the May '14 list.

What is the requirement for attr/acl/libcap in lfs?  Systemd was the
suggestion I read.  But that's not part of lfs--unless that's where
LFS is going.
  Why can't they be installed as part of BLFS?  They
used to be.

>
>   -- Bruce

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