Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-06 Thread EI8FDB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have read, and re-read the below mail a few times, and I don't see any answers to Mr. Sundelof's points or any details of the reported DDoS attack. Can anyone point to actual webserver logfiles or network traffic statistics, method of DDoS

Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-05 Thread Fran Parker
Totally agree, Zack! It's a tough world out there -- for Advocacy as it is for any other venture. Keeping the keel and rudder pointed correctly so the advocacy ship doesn't run aground is not an easy gig. Especially in such a fickle world where you can't afford to have anyone misjudge your

Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-05 Thread Marcin de Kaminski
Thank you, Yvette. That statement still does not explain why the donation is needed (since their system could stand the attack). Marcin Yvette Alberdingkthijm yve...@witness.org skrev: Hi all, Ricken Patel, who heads up Avaaz, asked me to post this on this list (as I brought the

Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-05 Thread Yvette Alberdingkthijm
I am just the messenger hereā€¦:) Will suggest that they should join, if someone has not already. Thanks, YAT Yvette J. Alberdingk Thijm Executive Director WITNESS 80 Hanson Place Brooklyn, NY 11217 phone: + 1(718) 783 2271 europe: +31 619031122 mobile: + 1 (347) 210 0152 skype: yvette-a or

Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-05 Thread Robert Guerra
+1 Sent from a mobile device. Apologies for typos or brevity. On 2012-05-05, at 4:52 PM, Marcin de Kaminski mar...@dekaminski.se wrote: Thank you, Yvette. That statement still does not explain why the donation is needed (since their system could stand the attack). Marcin Yvette

Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-04 Thread Okhin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:41:01 -0400 Andrew Lewis and...@pdqvpn.com wrote: Wtf..? So, they're undergoing a massiva attack for the last 36hours. And then, they just build a bigger and heavier page, pushing a press release anywhere they can, asking for

Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-04 Thread EI8FDB
] On Behalf Of Andrew Lewis Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 6:11 AM To: Okhin Cc: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real? I asked for more info via twitter and got pointed to this: http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/online-activism-site-avaaz-hit

Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-04 Thread EI8FDB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 While it is a small detail its important - DDoS attacks are mounted in a different way to a DoS attack. From the vague wording on the Avaaz site it sounds like a DDoS attack, but since there is no evidence it is not possible to make The wording

Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-04 Thread Andrew Couts
...@gmail.com To: Andrew Couts andrew_co...@yahoo.com Cc: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real? Hello Andrew. Your article asserts that this attack is happening as fact, yet you say

Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-04 Thread Steve Weis
...globally-distributed botnet of thousands of computers... Someone could rent thousands of botnet agents for two days for a couple hundred dollars: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/study-finds-the-average-price-for-renting-a-botnet/6528 Avaaz does not have any further information about who is

Re: [liberationtech] Avaaz, is this for real?

2012-05-04 Thread Shaun Wilde
Was clarifying Okhin's musing about what their goal of 35k$ was for. Their goal is 35,000 *donations*. Likely to the tune of... who knows. $500,000? If we're wondering what they'd do with 35k$, an even more interesting brainstorm is what they'll do with 500k$. Hard to know without knowing