Re: [liberationtech] New report on Internet Censorship and Surveillance in Turkmenistan

2013-01-08 Thread Rafal Rohozinski
Jacob: First of all, it's important to recognize that SORM is a system for lawful access to telephone and IP traffic. It is normalized under the laws of the Russian Federation and most of the countries of the former Soviet Union. In other words, it is not a secret system, but rather one

Re: [liberationtech] New report on Internet Censorship and Surveillance in Turkmenistan

2013-01-08 Thread Rafal Rohozinski
Jacob: As you know, I've been involved with ONI for the past decade, and I know you've taken a very keen interest in these issues in the last few years (by you, I also mean the TOR project). Well, I've tried for the better part of ten years to learn about the internal methods of ONI.

Re: [liberationtech] New report on Internet Censorship and Surveillance in Turkmenistan - back on topic

2013-01-08 Thread Rafal Rohozinski
Libtech, Just in case there are people out there still interested in Turkmenistan :-) One of the contributors to our report recently started up a Facebook page which has become quite popular amongst the Turkmenistan opposition. It can be found here: www.facebook.com/salamturkmen and

Re: [liberationtech] New report on Internet Censorship and Surveillance in Turkmenistan

2013-01-06 Thread Collin Anderson
This thought led me to a more general question: does Secdev have plans to make data / methodology / code behind Black Watch and the other components of Secdev's measures and study of openness available for peer review replication? John's point drove at the heart of a concern of mine regarding

Re: [liberationtech] New report on Internet Censorship and Surveillance in Turkmenistan

2013-01-06 Thread Rafal Rohozinski
Collin, (John), All of this requires longer discussion, but I'll be brief here (for now). Yes, we intend on making Black Watch open-source. And yes, we intend on making data from Black Watch Open Data on censorship and surveillance. WTR to your question Collin, Black Watch consists of

Re: [liberationtech] New report on Internet Censorship and Surveillance in Turkmenistan

2013-01-05 Thread Rafal Rohozinski
Morgan, Thanks for your note. I use the term interview euphemistically. Obviously we used a much more sophisticated set of methods including in depth debriefs with former employees, contractors, suppliers as well as other forms of clandestine collection. The point is that we were able to get a

Re: [liberationtech] New report on Internet Censorship and Surveillance in Turkmenistan

2013-01-05 Thread Collin Anderson
In the case of SORM-II, it also has a very distinct signature which is visible if you are sitting in line with the system... Our intention with the testing platform is to contribute to the creation of censorship and surveillance Open Data... That's excellent to hear, does SecDev intend to

Re: [liberationtech] New report on Internet Censorship and Surveillance in Turkmenistan

2013-01-05 Thread Rafal Rohozinski
Hi Colin, Just about to rest any doubt about this, I meant clandestine as a synonym of in secret. Likewise, by debriefs I simply mean having long in-depth discussions with individual designed to accrue as many data points as possible about past events, or circumstances. None of this is

Re: [liberationtech] New report on Internet Censorship and Surveillance in Turkmenistan

2013-01-03 Thread Eva Galperin
Thank you for sharing your report, Rafal. I read it with great interest. I see that you devoted about a third of this report to Internet surveillance in Turkmenistan, but you don't mention Gamma or Finfisher even once. The discovery that Gamma International's products were being used to spy on

[liberationtech] New report on Internet Censorship and Surveillance in Turkmenistan

2013-01-02 Thread Rafal Rohozinski
The SecDev Group has released a study of Internet censorship and surveillance in Turkmenistan. The report was commissioned and financially supported by the Open Society Foundations. It is posted on the ONI Website , and can also be downloaded from here Neither Here Nor There: Turkmenistan’s