Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 03:52:57PM -0200, Daniel Arnaudo wrote: > Also anyone using Yahoo Mail on this thread might want to reconsider if > they're concerned with privacy. The same can be said of AOL, Hotmail/Outlook, and Gmail. (Even though I think very highly of Google's security people.) The

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

This Ars Technica piece has some longer discussion of the pros and cons, and the perspective of different security researchers. Seems like it is a topic that has needed to be addressed for awhile regarding WhatsApp. Ultimately, if you do use WhatsApp and are concerned about security, turned on the

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:40:13AM -0500, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > So I think the operational question is not "are they present?" -- > the question is "what do they have access to?" Consider also the blackmailing power of XKEYSCORE. More or less anyone in any major corporation can be blackmailed to

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 08:47:51AM -0600, Andr??s Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes wrote: > Anybody serious about decryption cannot use standard social networks, > which are predicated on access to private data for marketing and > "development" (eg, as test data for new features, debugging, etc) >

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

Very interesting, rsk & FL. On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 08:47:51AM -0600, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes wrote: > Anybody serious about decryption cannot use standard social networks, Decryption? You mean encryption? Indeed most users of technology aren't serious about encryption. Not even the

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

Thanks, FL, for your succinct description. Anybody serious about decryption cannot use standard social networks, which are predicated on access to private data for marketing and "development" (eg, as test data for new features, debugging, etc) purposes, and naturally open to government intrusion

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

First of all I thank Carlo and Cristina for welcoming me. I was afraid that as a man who studied law rather than computer science I wouldn’t fit in here so well. :-) I’ll clarify right from the beginning though that neither I live in the US nor I work on the privacy field. I’m just a geek (not

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

Who owns WhatsApp? Facebook. What is the purpose of Facebook? Surveillance and data acquisition. They've spent billions building the infrastructure for it. They have expanded the nature and scope of it at every possible opportunity. They have been caught -- over and over and over again --

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

On 2017-01-14 13:41, Thomas Delrue wrote: > On 01/14/2017 08:17 AM, FL wrote: > >> I'm not sure that every American company, by law, must implement a backdoor, >> as you imply. The last time I checked, iMessage was a very secure platform >> with no known vulnerabilities -- which in fact has

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

On 01/14/2017 08:17 AM, FL wrote: > I'm not sure that every American company, by law, must implement a backdoor, > as you imply. The last time I checked, iMessage was a very secure platform > with no known vulnerabilities — which in fact has made Apple struggle with US > agencies more than a

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Last time I heard the us govt failed to force Apple to break an iPhone. They had to reform to independent contractor

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:48:48AM -0300, FL wrote: > Sadly I'm not a hacker — I'm a lawyer, so I haven't checked their code nor > any other company's for that matter. We have plenty of hackers but not enough lawyers, so your view on what the laws currently actually imply is very welcome. >

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

Sadly I'm not a hacker — I'm a lawyer, so I haven't checked their code nor any other company's for that matter. However, my main point remains unaddressed — I'm not sure that American companies are 'required by law' to implement backdoors. And the fact that I check the news instead of a

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

Thx, efecto On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:17:07AM -0300, FL wrote: > I'm not sure that every American company, by law, must implement a backdoor, > as you imply. The last time I checked, iMessage was a very secure platform > with no known vulnerabilities — which in fact has made Apple struggle

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

On 14/01/17 10:02, carlo von lynX wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 07:26:29PM -0500, Sebastian Benthall wrote: >> https://whispersystems.org/blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-backdoor/ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/13/ > I've also read >

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

I'm not sure that every American company, by law, must implement a backdoor, as you imply. The last time I checked, iMessage was a very secure platform with no known vulnerabilities — which in fact has made Apple struggle with US agencies more than a few times. FL > On 14-01-2017, at 10:02,

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 07:26:29PM -0500, Sebastian Benthall wrote: > https://whispersystems.org/blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-backdoor/ > > > https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/13/ I've also read

Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

So I guess we can go back to what we were talking about a few days ago. You know, "fake news". FL > On 13-01-2017, at 21:26, Sebastian Benthall wrote: > > https://whispersystems.org/blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-backdoor/ > >> On Jan 13, 2017 9:14 AM, "Rich Kulawiec"

[liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

It is long *past* time for everyone involved in the kinds of activities discussed here to completely and permanently excise Facebook's services/products from their computing environment. No excuses. ---rsk - Forwarded message from Richard Forno - > To: