Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-27 Thread Heather Marsh
Would like to express gratitude to all on this list who have offered assistance offlist, I really appreciate it. Nothing is ideal, but so far it seems it was a very good idea to go. Here is an update and we are about to get more regular reporting out when our guys are in a bit safer situation

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-18 Thread Griffin Boyce
Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote: It seems like physical smuggling or geo-caching of the data would be much safer than a sat phone that can be *tracked* and *jammed* simultaneously. At least with geo-caching, one could pass along the coordinates for evidence later and then perhaps at

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-18 Thread Andreas Bader
Heather: Hi all, For those that aren't aware, 800,000 Rohingya Muslim people in Burma are being cut off from communication as the military and government try to drive them out of the country. Over 100,000 are being starved to death in concentration camps, the rest are driven into boats

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-18 Thread Brian Conley
Hi Heather, First of all, I can't echo Jacob's concerns enough. You can find a concise overview of the risks of using satellite phones in a guide I authored last year: http://smallworldnews.tv/guide/ (specifically: http://www.smallworldnews.com/Guide/Guide_SatPhone_English.pdf) If you're still

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-18 Thread ttscanada
On 13-03-18 5:39 AM, Andreas Bader wrote: So if you say that there's possibly a massacre the next few weeks, we should advise the media and journalists of this situation, so that at least it would be reported. So we have a basis for a war crime accusation. I personally think the the biggest

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-18 Thread ttscanada
Thank you, would love to talk off list. All the best, Heather Marsh @GeorgieBC on Twitter On 13-03-18 1:19 PM, Brian Conley wrote: Hi Heather, First of all, I can't echo Jacob's concerns enough. You can find a concise overview of the risks of using satellite phones in a guide I

[liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-17 Thread ttscanada
Hi all, For those that aren't aware, 800,000 Rohingya people in Burma are being cut off from communication as the military and government try to drive them out of the country. Over 100,000 are being starved to death in concentration camps, the rest are driven into boats which neighbouring

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-17 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Dear Heather, ttscanada: Hi all, For those that aren't aware, 800,000 Rohingya people in Burma are being cut off from communication as the military and government try to drive them out of the country. Over 100,000 are being starved to death in concentration camps, the rest are driven into

[liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-17 Thread Heather
Hi all, For those that aren't aware, 800,000 Rohingya Muslim people in Burma are being cut off from communication as the military and government try to drive them out of the country. Over 100,000 are being starved to death in concentration camps, the rest are driven into boats which

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-17 Thread Gregory Foster
I've been learning about the recent history of Burma through a collection of Aung San Suu Kyi's writings and speeches. A quotation from her essay In Quest of Democracy written before her house arrest in 1989: Revolutions generally reflect the irresistible impulse for necessary changes which

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-17 Thread ttscanada
Hi Jacob, Yes, exactly to the security issues, which is why we have tried nothing to date, any Rohingya caught with anything like a camera or radio is tortured and killed. Ease of use is also paramount, there is no point risking lives to get a phone in that no one can use. We are

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-17 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
ttscanada: Hi Jacob, Yes, exactly to the security issues, which is why we have tried nothing to date, any Rohingya caught with anything like a camera or radio is tortured and killed. Ease of use is also paramount, there is no point risking lives to get a phone in that no one can use. We are

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-17 Thread ttscanada
Very good points, thanks, Jake. We were thinking more of phones since it appears they are more paranoid of cameras than phones, but you have a very good point, phones are more easily controlled. Rethinking. All the best, Heather Marsh @GeorgieBC on Twitter On 13-03-17 1:25 PM, Jacob

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-17 Thread Mark Belinsky
In my work with the Rohingya and research into communications systems in Arakan state in the Western portion of the country, it was notable that there was data coverage spilling over from neighboring Bangladesh and people were using these towers to transmit information across borders. All the

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-17 Thread ttscanada
Thanks Mark, interesting. Was this recently? All the best, Heather Marsh @GeorgieBC on Twitter On 13-03-17 2:18 PM, Mark Belinsky wrote: In my work with the Rohingya and research into communications systems in Arakan state in the Western portion of the country, it was notable that there

Re: [liberationtech] Satellite phones for Rohingya in Burma

2013-03-17 Thread Asher Wolf
I noticed while trawling media lately the Saudis have been using local boats to bring in some supplies? - Asher On 18/03/13 9:29 AM, ttscanada wrote: Thanks Mark, interesting. Was this recently? All the best, Heather Marsh @GeorgieBC on Twitter On 13-03-17 2:18 PM, Mark