--- On Mon, 6/30/08, goat! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: goat! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Re: QED:Laughing Out Loud and then Crying
To: LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 2:58 PM
Wraith wrote
From: Dennis Lee Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Zack Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Right on! And you are making a good point about where welfare money
goes - lots of people do make the mistake of thinking that much
welfare goes legally to
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On Sunday 06 July 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
Of course. Some of the illegal immigrants are doing what
immigrants have done in North America for longer than my own
ancestors have been here (the second boat to Massachusetts),
Neat! I
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Lee Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have not seen anything like an official, authoritative, source report
containing figures about the number of illegal immigrants who receive
welfare funds, nor how much they allegedly receive, but as I
I think you are intentionally picking shit out of context. Go to the
link you gave! A couple of clicks away is this - which explicitly
states, as I did, that NONCITIZEN LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENT ALIENS are
eligible! And it is not believable that you were unaware of it.
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Zack Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Right on! And you are making a good point about where welfare money
goes - lots of people do make the mistake of thinking that much
welfare goes legally to Illegal Immigrants. I wouldn't be surprised
to find
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Zack Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Lee Wilson
dennisleewilson@ wrote:
Welfare is NOT the problem.
It is ILLEGAL for non-citizens to collect welfare!!
I think you are making the common
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Zack Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Lee Wilson
dennisleewilson@ wrote:
Welfare is NOT the problem.
It is ILLEGAL for non-citizens to collect welfare!!
I think you are making the common
--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Dennis Lee Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is absurd and grossly arbitrary for a person who was born lives 20 feet
south of the Mexican border to pay to walk to visit his cousin who was born
lives 20 feet north of the border. This punishment is incompatible with the
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Boyd Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adolph Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden, Fidel
Castro, and Hugo Chavez. All need to be or needed to be shot and
killed shortly after they began their initiations of force. All under
the cover
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, goat! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wouldn't call it theft of land, as a land
owner has a duty to stop trespassers
HUH? What the FUCK? Ownership implies a RIGHT TO EXCLUDE (or not to
exclude, it's up to the Owner). No DUTY whatsoever.
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:08:56 -0700, Zack Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, goat! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I wouldn't call it theft of land, as a land
owner has a duty to stop trespassers
HUH? What the FUCK? Ownership implies a RIGHT TO EXCLUDE
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Boyd Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Zack Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Of course! I agree with the assassination of the GUILTY - those who
have Initiated Force or Delegated it (say by Voting for it). What I
oppose is the killing of an INNOCENT
From: Zack Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Either way, it is an unpleasant statement. It is perfectly
permissible to kill the Guilty; whether it helps save others or does
not is morally irrelevant.
And the bald statement, without saying whether it refers to the Guilty
or the Innocent, definitely implies
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Boyd Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok. I like the idea of making them pay upfront. An ounce or 5 of
silver or even gold is a good idea.
It is absurd and grossly arbitrary for a person who was born lives 20
feet south of the Mexican border to
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, goat! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wraith wrote:
Just by crossing an imaginary line on a map, they are committing a
crime
in some peoples alleged minds. Its *ALL* about power and control
Eric.
One doesn't have to look very deep into these
Exactly! Those who argue that Aliens ought to be stopped from
entering this country because they would be Trespassing on private
land don't seem to notice that that argument also implies that no
Citizen could cross that border (in either direction) either!
The true situation is that I am a
--- On Mon, 6/30/08, goat! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Private property is a fiction of government
or held by force (some libertarian thought equates government being
force). The commons was here before private property was ever codified
into law.
Those definitions is what is called law. Law is a
--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Zack Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What an anti-libertarian- based movie! The trailer shows her asserting
that it is good to kill one person if that will save the lives of
several others.
See Torture and the Trolley -
http://www.ncc- 1776.org/ tle2007/tle449- 20071230-
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Boyd Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most of these individuals are not coming in with the
intention of working, but with the intent of stealing
property, welfare and medical services.
That needs to be addressed quickly as it is a major problem.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Boyd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So in other words you think it is OK for people to come into this country
for the express purpose of committing crimes such as rape, murder and theft.
I don't think it is OK for people to go in to a bank for the purpose
of
At 08:10 PM 6/29/2008, you wrote:
Believe it or not, I was actually thinking about something along the
lines of some of what what you say below. It seems that all the
things that have gone wrong are tied up and tangled up together. As
if it were some big bunch of tangled and knotted ropes,
At 05:17 AM 6/30/2008, you wrote:
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Boyd Smith
mailto:boydw.smith%40yahoo.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So in other words you think it is OK for people to come into this country
for the express purpose of committing crimes such as rape, murder
and theft.
I
Wraith wrote:
Just by crossing an imaginary line on a map, they are committing a crime
in some peoples alleged minds. Its *ALL* about power and control Eric.
One doesn't have to look very deep into these matters to find tribalism
and fear of the Other(which underlie all too much of basic
At 12:41 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote:
Wraith wrote:
Just by crossing an imaginary line on a map, they are committing a crime
in some peoples alleged minds. Its *ALL* about power and control Eric.
One doesn't have to look very deep into these matters to find tribalism
and fear of the
Wraith wrote:
Trespass. But you are mixing up concepts. You specified that the
property is
owned by an individual(above). Who owns the imaginary line called a border?
Nobody owns the property on the
At 12:58 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote:
Wraith wrote:
Trespass. But you are mixing up concepts. You specified that the
property is
owned by an individual(above). Who owns the imaginary line called a border?
Wraith wrote:
Nobody owns the property on the border?
Exactly. Its owned by the group of thugs commonly referred to as
government.
It would be entirely different if that land was private property.
Wrong, it is owned by the people who own land there.
There is no mixing of concepts,
At 02:16 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote:
Wraith wrote:
Nobody owns the property on the border?
Exactly. Its owned by the group of thugs commonly referred to as
government.
It would be entirely different if that land was private property.
Wrong, it is owned by the people who own land there.
From: Zack Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are a FUCKING LIAR. Illegal Aliens are not expressing such an
intention, and those Barr wants to bar from entry include BILLIONS of
people, not just someone who has expressed an intention to commit such
crimes.
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You
From: Wraith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well...You have the tangled mess part right. But rather than straighten up, I
suspect what
would happen is that the entire system of illusions and delusions would come
crashing
down, and in the resulting power vacuum, all manner of unpleasant things would
happen.
From: goat! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So if somebody crosses your imaginary property line to property you own
without your consent, exactly what is that called?
Goat
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I'll take trespassing for $500.
BWS
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Boyd Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Zack Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are a FUCKING LIAR. Illegal Aliens are not expressing such an
intention, and those Barr wants to bar from entry include BILLIONS of
people, not just someone who has
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Boyd Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am going to see the movie Wanted in July
What an anti-libertarian-based movie! The trailer shows her asserting
that it is good to kill one person if that will save the lives of
several others.
See Torture and
Interesting theory. Barr is accused of taking an anti-libertarian
stance on Immigration, and your defense of him is to state that YOU
TOO are anti-libertarian on this issue.
To stop me, a U.S. Citizen, from inviting my foreign friends to come
visit me, is definitely anti-libertarian. There is
Believe it or not, I was actually thinking about something along the lines of
some of what what you say below. It seems that all the things that have gone
wrong are tied up and tangled up together. As if it were some big bunch of
tangled and knotted ropes, with a bunch of branches thrown into
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