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--- Comment #37 from Eyal Rozenberg ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #33)
> (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #30)
> >... developers are not equipped to make such a
> > decision better than other community members.
>
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--- Comment #36 from Pedro ---
Where am I being inappropriate? VSF has repeatedly advocated for discarding the
Tabbed UI as well as he's here voting against representing all UIs available
equally. Why? Does it threaten his world view if
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--- Comment #35 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Pedro from comment #34)
Your wording is inappropriate, please stay polite. Stuart was always an
advocate of alternative MUFFIN concept _additionally_ to the classic UI.
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--- Comment #34 from Pedro ---
Stuart it's funny that you talk about "doers deciding" but are always
salivating at the mouth about discarding the Tabbed UI, that some doers decided
about and actually implemented it.
It seems more that
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--- Comment #33 from V Stuart Foote ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #30)
>... developers are not equipped to make such a
> decision better than other community members.
>...
Umm, better check that perspective. The devs are
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--- Comment #32 from Eyal Rozenberg ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #31)
> but time shows it was the correct choice--where are the users
> clamoring for implementation? 11 users and 0 duplicate BZ issues...
>
> Frankly
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--- Comment #31 from V Stuart Foote ---
(In reply to John Mills from comment #29)
> Stuart, I remind you of what you said in that bug report you lnked to:
>
Uh, NO. The discussion there was over the even worse proposal of making the
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--- Comment #30 from Eyal Rozenberg ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #28)
> Nope! Doers decide,
That's only very partially true. Doers don't decide policy - the community
decides, via the TDF, the ESC and so on, taking into
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--- Comment #29 from John Mills ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #28)
> (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #27)
> > So, can we have your agreement?
>
> Nope! Doers decide, and this was decided/implemented as for bug
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--- Comment #28 from V Stuart Foote ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #27)
> So, can we have your agreement?
Nope! Doers decide, and this was decided/implemented as for bug 117463 with
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--- Comment #27 from Eyal Rozenberg ---
So, it seems there is still disagreement from Stuart about having the UI
selection dialog _itself_, not a TotD linking to it. I misinterpreted his
comment #18 as a grumbling agreement, which it
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--- Comment #26 from Eyal Rozenberg ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #22)
Agree with John's comment about this. Also, let's move the discussion about
possible welcome-dialog items other than UI selection to bug 154593.
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--- Comment #25 from Eyal Rozenberg ---
(In reply to haevalencia from comment #20)
> create a welcome screen dialog that includes relevant options to customize
> on first use.
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #21)
> have the font
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--- Comment #24 from John Mills ---
I disagree with this part STuart:
"Even the concept of "first startup" is a misnomer for the vast count of
installations. Many distributions would never allow it to launch, and for folks
doing their
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--- Comment #21 from andreas_k ---
Big +1 for have the font stuff at a welcome wizard so the import of docx files
will be improved if Arial or some other fonts are selected.
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--- Comment #20 from haevalen...@gmail.com ---
I would like to weigh in on this topic, as a veteran user and observer of new
LibO users.
Regrettable Tip of the day is insufficient, sometimes it goes unnoticed and
does not solve the
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--- Comment #19 from John Mills ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #16)
> (In reply to John Mills from comment #15)
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> I'm ok with everything you said, I'm just asking the technical clarification
> of whether the suggestion
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--- Comment #18 from V
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--- Comment #17 from Pedro ---
IMO, this dialog should be the same as the View -> User Interface dialog. No
point to add another dialog.
However, I believe that the option to select the Appearance (Light, Dark,
System) that Caolan placed
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--- Comment #16 from Eyal Rozenberg ---
(In reply to John Mills from comment #15)
I'm ok with everything you said, I'm just asking the technical clarification of
whether the suggestion is to have at first startup would be the exact same
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--- Comment #15 from John Mills ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #14)
> About a light/dark choice on that dialog: Do you guys also want that choice
> to be available via View | User Interface on the menus , or do you want a
>
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--- Comment #14 from Eyal Rozenberg ---
About a light/dark choice on that dialog: Do you guys also want that choice to
be available via View | User Interface on the menus , or do you want a
different, special dialog for the first
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--- Comment #13 from John Mills ---
I would also like to give my plus 1 to this suggestion, it seems a very
practical solution and has been said by Pedro it should also include
light/dark/automatic.
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--- Comment #12 from Pedro ---
I would also +1 this option. Furthermore, include in it the option to change
the theme from Light to Dark to automatic.
As Eyal said, Tip of the Day could then pop up on second launch.
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--- Comment #11 from Eyal Rozenberg ---
(In reply to Gabby from comment #10)
Should that not be a separate bug?
(In reply to Telesto from comment #0)
> Description:
> Preferred user interface: Should popup prior to Tip of they day (not
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--- Comment #10 from Gabby ---
Hi guys, I'm only new here, but wanted to share my experience with TotD. So I
downloaded LO, first launch, 100% new user, Tip of the Day pops up. My original
intention was just to draft an e-mail. I had no
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--- Comment #8 from Telesto ---
Lets add few alternatives:
-> Info bar tooltip (blue header bar) at first launch suggesting UI change?
-> Or sometime as proposed here bug 138061
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--- Comment #6 from Telesto ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> While some want to advertise the Notebookbar by showing the UI dialog
> directly after the first start there are many who disagree with this
> in-your-face
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