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--- Comment #85 from karl_t...@hotmail.com ---
(In reply to Rik Shaw from comment #84)
> @ comment #83 I think it is a bad translation issue to have "automatically"
> in the title. The initial comment says "it should not be automatic".
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--- Comment #84 from Rik Shaw ---
@ comment #83 I think it is a bad translation issue to have "automatically" in
the title. The initial comment says "it should not be automatic". Instead what
I understand the desire of this feature
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--- Comment #83 from laur...@norbit.no ---
My use case (engineer writing technical documents). The moment that LO starts
to compress inserted images without my consent or feedback as a default setting
I will instantly rage-quit LO and
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--- Comment #81 from Xisco
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--- Comment #79 from Luke ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #78)
> It will be optimized once at a specific dpi when you insert it and wouldnt
> be optimized again.
Since we don't know whether the
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--- Comment #78 from Yousuf Philips (jay) ---
(In reply to Nicolas R from comment #76)
> - automatic compression to xxx dpi when inserting images ... with ability to
> disable it (perhaps I'm a freak, but I never
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--- Comment #77 from Luke ---
I drag and drop files to insert, so I'm one of the users affected by this
change. In this case, we should not silently resize or recompress images until
* The user has explicitly asked
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--- Comment #76 from Nicolas R ---
Really interesting discussion.
I think the "2 options" workflow is nice :
- automatic compression to xxx dpi when inserting images ... with ability to
disable it (perhaps I'm a
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--- Comment #74 from Tomaz Vajngerl ---
(In reply to Joey Reid from comment #72)
> This at the core of problem here. I am looking at my company’s sharepoint
> marketing folder now and the majorities of files are .docx
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--- Comment #73 from Cor Nouws ---
Hi Joey,
trying to understand:
(In reply to Joey Reid from comment #72)
> ... So we create large, high quality documents and then
> compress them when it’s time to share.
What is
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--- Comment #72 from Joey Reid ---
(In reply to Tomaz Vajngerl from comment #69)
> Come on.. get real. You know full well that the amount of users who will
> send documents to professional printers that use LO is
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--- Comment #71 from Tomaz Vajngerl ---
(In reply to Luke from comment #70)
> No one here is asking to inform users. The concern has always been that
> destructive edits belong at the very end of the work flow.
Yes,
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--- Comment #70 from Luke ---
I get that professionals can and will disable compression here just like they
can with MSO. That has never been my concern. My concern for the past has
always been about the work flow.
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--- Comment #69 from Tomaz Vajngerl ---
(In reply to Luke from comment #67)
> Most Users? Home users sure. But if want to be taken seriously by
> professionals, we should act like professional software and not assume the
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--- Comment #68 from Cor Nouws ---
(In reply to Luke from comment #67)
> We are talking about DESTRUCTIVE EDITS. This assumption that it can just be
> "fixed", is only true if the user still has access to the original,
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--- Comment #67 from Luke ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #66)
> Most users wont visually be able to see the
> difference between the original image and the optimized image due to the
> nature of
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--- Comment #65 from Luke ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #62)
> Advantages:
> 1) User have the ability to disable the compression at insert time (users
> arent prompted everytime time they press
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--- Comment #64 from Cor Nouws ---
(In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #61)
> I share Joey's objections in doing compressing when inserting an image
> instead of saving the file.
>
> Maybe the user wants to edit the
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--- Comment #63 from Tomaz Vajngerl ---
At save is not a good time for compression:
Users won't have an idea that compresion will happen and informing them (or
asking them further questions) at the save time is not good
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--- Comment #62 from Yousuf Philips (jay) ---
(In reply to Joey Reid from comment #60)
> Again, maybe I'm not being clear. What is the advantage to compressing and
> resizing at insert time, rather they save time?
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--- Comment #61 from Thomas Lendo ---
I share Joey's objections in doing compressing when inserting an image instead
of saving the file.
Maybe the user wants to edit the image after inserting (and before saving)
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--- Comment #60 from Joey Reid ---
(In reply to Tomaz Vajngerl from comment #59)
> You know that you should run image compression manually
Well, I know I want it on the version I want to share, but not on my
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--- Comment #59 from Tomaz Vajngerl ---
(In reply to Joey Reid from comment #58)
> Images should be kept at the highest *reasonable* quality while editing. So
> what is the advantage to doing this on insert time if you
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--- Comment #58 from Joey Reid ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #56)
> Yes users will have full control to enabled/disable it when they like.
Images should be kept at the highest *reasonable*
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--- Comment #57 from Nicolas R ---
I've some problem while reading "graphic professional", "full resolution image"
and Writer or Word.
I've always thought that desktop publishing with intense graphic used other
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--- Comment #56 from Yousuf Philips (jay) ---
(In reply to Joey Reid from comment #55)
> I still do not fully understand the workflow of the proposed solution. I
> need to work with high quality images, so I must
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--- Comment #55 from Joey Reid ---
I still do not fully understand the workflow of the proposed solution. I need
to work with high quality images, so I must disable compression and resizing
during the draft phase.
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--- Comment #54 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #53)
> No the workflow wouldnt be the same...
Luke's concerns are that professional users do not have the choice to deal with
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--- Comment #52 from Luke ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #50)
> Actually the Minimizer workflow is exactly what you get when the auto
> compression option is switched off.
So the workflow is the same
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--- Comment #50 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Jérôme from comment #48)
> An other solution is be asking to the user the first time he is inserting an
> image. Next the user choice is saved into the user
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--- Comment #49 from Joey Reid ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #47)
> (In reply to Joey Reid from comment #46)
> How would you do that when the action is
> executed immediately before save without
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--- Comment #48 from Jérôme ---
An other solution is be asking to the user the first time he is inserting an
image. Next the user choice is saved into the user environnement.
A small indicator over the image
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--- Comment #47 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Joey Reid from comment #46)
> How would I or any creative professional maintain the necessary high
> resolution...?
Expert users switch off the option and get the
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--- Comment #46 from Joey Reid ---
@ Heiko Tietze
As some who has used this feature in Word on a regular basis for my work, could
you please explain how your proposed solution would be of any use? For example,
I
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--- Comment #45 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #40)
> What if one copies/pastes an image from the file browser?
The agreement was to compress on insert depending on the settings.
> (In
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--- Comment #44 from Luke ---
(In reply to Jérôme from comment #42)
> I think the below additionnal settings would help.
>
> "don't resize if original size is greater than" : with 200% of resizing dpi
> for example
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--- Comment #43 from Tomaz Vajngerl ---
(In reply to Luke from comment #38)
> This might make sense for home users, but in the work place, destructive
> defaults are a terrible idea. From web design to marketing, the
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--- Comment #41 from Luke ---
Compression and reducing image size are both destructive operations. Instead of
making this an option at export, save, or publishing time, why are we choosing
to do it at insert time?
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--- Comment #40 from Cor Nouws ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #37)
> In bug 77407 it was requested to compress all images in a document and we
> discussed this request in the design meeting 2017-Apr-27. The
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--- Comment #39 from Luke ---
One more point. In the past I have extracted photos and audio clips from email
that an family member sent me to make a memorial web page after they had passed
away. They were images and
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--- Comment #38 from Luke ---
> Default values
+ on by default
This might make sense for home users, but in the work place, destructive
defaults are a terrible idea. From web design to marketing, the
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--- Comment #37 from Heiko Tietze ---
In bug 77407 it was requested to compress all images in a document and we
discussed this request in the design meeting 2017-Apr-27. The recommendation is
to compress when an
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--- Comment #36 from Heiko Tietze ---
*** Bug 77407 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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--- Comment #34 from Luke ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #33)
> (In reply to Tomaz Vajngerl from comment #31)
> > The situation didn't change a bit.
>
> Isn't the compression as implemented sufficient?
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