[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-06-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #16 from Xisco Faulí  ---
Hi Adalbert Hanßen,
I've just found it's a regression and I reported it in bug 126005 as this bug
was becoming to long.
Thank you very much for reporting this issue. it should be fixed soon

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 126005 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-06-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #15 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Adalbert Hanßen from comment #14)
> I can't sort by any column. I can't reverse the sorting order by clicking on
> any column in the headline.

Strange

> TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@86-TDF, Branch:master, Time:

Double strange.

Xisco, one for you?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #14 from Adalbert Hanßen  ---
Created attachment 152246
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=152246=edit
Screenshots with current developkment version where Insert Bookmark does NOT
allow to sort, in Reply to comment #12 of  bug 123514 (Screenshots)

I can't sort by any column. I can't reverse the sorting order by clicking on
any column in the headline.

I am testing with Version: 6.4.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: f75c2b04785aa05cff3bcd52689feb7400a14e8e
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.4; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3;
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@86-TDF, Branch:master, Time:
2019-06-15_11:49:26
Locale: de-DE (de_DE.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded under Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Adalbert Hanßen from comment #12)
> Although a 5 column list is shown there with headlines
> Page/Name/Text/Hidden/Condition, one can not sort the result list by any
> other column than the first one...

I can sort by any column up and down, macOS 6.2.3 and it was the same on Linux
6.1 and 6.4. If you found a Windows related issue we have to fix this.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-06-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #12 from Adalbert Hanßen  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> The bookmark dialog allows to sort the items for page, name, and text
> (though the Navigator sorts by name only). Isn't that enough?

Testing it with Version: 6.3.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: 77ae0abe21f672cf4b7d2e069f1d40d20edc49a7 (2019-05-31) I see, in the
insert bookmark dialogue the bookmarks are sorted by page (or possibly even by
order, in which they appear? I did not check the ordering of bookmarks on the
same page). 

Although a 5 column list is shown there with headlines
Page/Name/Text/Hidden/Condition, one can not sort the result list by any other
column than the first one, by which it is ordered when it is presented fist.
However, by double-clicking on one of the bookmarks in the list of existing
bookmarks one can go to that particular bookmark - something which seems to
have been complained missing in the navigator in thread 86395 mentioned below.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-06-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #11 from Adalbert Hanßen  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #8)
> I agree with Adalbert that it's not easy to use that part of the UI to
> insert references to bookmarks in a hyperlink.
> However, if you know which bookmark you need, just type the name in the
> field Target, Enter and you're done. that's easy and fast.
> 
> Doesn't that work for you?
> 
> (A problem is that the type Internet/Mail/Document ..) cannot be chosen by
> key board :\ (bug to be filed) and that the choice isn't remembered (bug
> 90496) )

Cor, thank you for the hint to enter the bookmark's name. On the next occasion
I'll try that in my daily life. 

>From the existing test sample I have derived a similar one by duplicating its
main content several times, see
http://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=152233. I did not know
that the bookmarks are also copied, but their names are varied automatically.
As a byproduct of my experiments I found a way to go to a specific using a
selection list in the order in which they appear in the document: The dialogue
in Insert>Bookmark shows the existing bookmarks sorted by pages and one can
misuse this one to go to one of them by double clicking on it (probably this
would be a more obvious use case for the navigator and perhaps the original
poster was looking for that). - In this case, the dialogue shows a multi column
list with headers and normally one would click on one of them in order to have
the list sorted by the contents of this column - which it does not provide. 

Unfortunately the relevant code is said to be a spaghetti monster. But once
someone touches it he might consider to standardize all use cases where a list
of bookmarks appears (i.e. the navigator and the insert bookmark and possibly
others) such that they all look the same in the part showing existing bookmarks
and all allow sorting by any column.

One other finding there is, that a bookmark to a marked word is displayed
differently to a bookmark just to an insertion point.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-06-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
   |.freedesktop.org|
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED

--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Read again through the discussion. There is bug 86395 asking for alphabetically
and by order sorting capabilities, which might solve most of your problems (I
make this ticket a duplicate). If you think there needs to be more sorting
options please add the use case on the other ticket (eg. Due to <> I do have a
gazillion hidden bookmarks that needs to excluded in order to work
efficiently).

Thanks for filing tickets and for being patient in the discussion ;-).

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 86395 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-06-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #9 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #8)
> (A problem is that the type Internet/Mail/Document ..) cannot be chosen by
> key board :\ (bug to be filed)
  > see bug 125875

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-06-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

Cor Nouws  changed:

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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12
   ||5875,
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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-06-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

Cor Nouws  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Cor Nouws  ---
I agree with Adalbert that it's not easy to use that part of the UI to insert
references to bookmarks in a hyperlink.
However, if you know which bookmark you need, just type the name in the field
Target, Enter and you're done. that's easy and fast.

Doesn't that work for you?

(A problem is that the type Internet/Mail/Document ..) cannot be chosen by key
board :\ (bug to be filed) and that the choice isn't remembered (bug 90496) )

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-02-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The dialog is likely generated by the same code as the Navigator, which is said
to be a huge spaghetti monster. The proposed solution in the duplicate bug
86395 is probably not so easy to implement but sorting by default could be
possible.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103030
[Bug 103030] [META] Navigator sidebar deck and floating window
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-02-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #6 from Adalbert Hanßen  ---
Created attachment 149415
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=149415=edit
Creating a bookmark-dialogue, sorted by bookmark name

This is what the dialogue is set up, which is used when defining a bookmark. By
clicking on the headline of the list organized in four columns, you can sort
the window. This screenshot shows it sorted by bookmark name. 

When creating a hyperlink, i.e. when using a bookmark, the dialogue should look
similar, possibly with an additional choice of a search field.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-02-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #5 from Adalbert Hanßen  ---
Created attachment 149414
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=149414=edit
Creating a bookmark-dialogue, sorted by page No

This is what the dialogue is set up, which is used when defining a bookmark. By
clicking on the headline of the list organized in four columns (until now I
have not seen an example with an entry in the fourth column however), you can
sort the window. My screenshot shows it sorted by page number. 

Unfortunately the current selection (if any) is not centred, so it might get
out off view here. 

For sorting by page number however, it seems to be best to centre the displayed
window with respect to the current page and highlight the one bookmark from it
(if there is one, otherwise take the next occurring bookmark below it).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-02-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #4 from Adalbert Hanßen  ---
Created attachment 149413
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=149413=edit
Dialog to add a hyperlink to a bookmark with many entries (showing only a few
of them)

Heiko Tietze's screenshot shows a very simple and transparent situation with
only a few bookmarks. However I encounter cases like this one: The bookmarks in
the window only cover about 1/4 of those which are in the document. They are
arranged in an order, which makes searching for a particular one very awkward.
They often happen to be in a highly non-alphabetical order, the
partially-ordered portions concerning "note-xx" happen to be there
accidentally. I can even produce worse cases than this one.

If the bookmarks were ordered alphabetically, that would already make life much
easier. However, when cross-linking a document with bookmarks, it often comes
that you want more than one hyperlink pointing to the same bookmark. Therefore
my advice, to memorize the last selected bookmark and open the selection-window
centred around it (and alphabetically ordered or by page number, if this
ordering also can be harvested from reusing the already existing dialogue from
define bookmark.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-02-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 149412
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=149412=edit
Screenshot

So what you mean is Insert > Hyperlink: Document > Target in Document. After
clicking the right hand button you get a Navigator like treeview where you
select the wanted bookmark- and this is cumbersome. Right?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-02-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #2 from Adalbert Hanßen  ---
No, that is not enough. 

Of course the bookmark dialogue, which comes up when creating a bookmark,
already has the capability to sort them alphabetically by bookmark name or by
page number or by text. However when yo want to use a bookmark in the
hyperlink-dialogue, you have to identify the one which you mean in a possibly
very long list (if you do it in a document which already has many bookmarks).

Probably it will be quits easy (for someone knowing the code) to modify this
dialogue (possibly change the headline of it) also to select a bookmark,
possibly adding the property to have the last used bookmark preselected and
display it centred if the list becomes longer than one dialogue-window hight.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-02-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The bookmark dialog allows to sort the items for page, name, and text (though
the Navigator sorts by name only). Isn't that enough?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123514] Setting a Hyperlink to a Bookmark in a Writer-Document should Become Easier

2019-02-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123514

Dieter Praas  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86
   ||395
 Blocks||108288
 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108288
[Bug 108288] [META] Bookmark bugs and enhancements
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