[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131511

Timur  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |NOTOURBUG
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
   Hardware|x86-64 (AMD64)  |All

--- Comment #17 from Timur  ---
Let's review:
- for fileopen bug we need DOC/X created with MSO
- for filesave bug we need ODT from LO
(so not DOC from LO).
And we compare with MSO.

Looks that MSO doesn't have "Evenly distribute contents to all columns" option
so I'll mark NotOurBug.
If not correct, feel free to set New. 

There seem to be workaround, one more step in LO before saving as DOC/X:
- after "Evenly distribute .." is turned off and we have text in 1st column
only, Insert Column Break.
DOCX opens as expected in MSO. DOC would probably, but except it has empty
areas in text (which is another issue, maybe because formats is document are
wrong).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Bart  ---
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A document created with Word 14, changing the last lines into one column

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Bart  ---
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A document created with Word 14 that shows even columns (screen copy)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Bart  ---
Created attachment 159019
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A document created with Word 14 that shows even columns

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Bart  ---
Created attachment 159018
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A document created with Word 14 that shows uneven columns (screen copy)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Bart  ---
Created attachment 159017
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A document created with Word 14 that shows uneven columns

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Bart  ---
I hope that I have some additional information about Microsoft Word and how
even and uneven columns are done. I hope that this is useful extra information.

It confirms what the NISZ LibreOffice Team already wrote, that a Word document
may not contain a setting "Evenly spread out text over both columns".

Here's what I found:

I started a document with Microsoft Word 14 and I added two columns. In the
document the columns continued until the end. On the last page (which is also
the first page), the text first appeared in the left column, then it continued
into the right column. The text was unevenly spread out over the columns. (It's
document "WordColsUneven.doc" and image "Word14ColsTillEnd.png") 

Then I made a document that started with one column. After a few lines I
changed it to two columns, and near the end I changed it back to one column.
Over the two columns Word spreads out the text evenly. (This is document
"WordColsEven.doc" and image "Word14ColsEven.png")

Here's what surprised me:

I went back to the document with the "uneven" columns. (That's document
"WordColsUneven.doc") I selected the last lines, and clicked "Page Layout ->
Columns -> One". I did not change any of the settings of the existing two
columns. Suddenly, Word now evenly spreads out the text over both columns.
(This is image "Word14SelectLastLines.png")

I also installed Microsoft Office XP and I repeated most of the previous steps.
Word 14 and Word XP do the same.

I don't expect the same behavior from Libre Office. That's up to the
developers. I added this information, because I hope it helps getting to the
cause.

If Microsoft calls this "intellisense", then I have a hard time figuring it
out. :p

If a Word document does not contain a setting "Evenly spread out text over both
columns", then I'm not sure if my report should still be considered a bug. ;)

I do think that developing Libre Office is a challenge, most of all when trying
to keep it compatible with Microsoft Word, and especially when Word shows this
type of behavior.

My compliments to all the developers who put their time in the development of
Libre Office.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Bart  ---
You are right. I'm sorry.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to Bart from comment #8)
> When I uncheck "Equal Column Width", save the document and reopen it in
> Libre Office Writer, the text on the last page is then in the left column
> only. 

I can't confirm that. And "Equal Column Width" is something different than
"Evenly distribute contens to all comlimns".

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Bart  ---
> I'm somewhat doubtful that a similar setting exists in Word

When I run Windows, in Word version 14.0 that setting is found under "Page
Layout -> Colums -> Equal Columm Width".

(For your convenience I added image "WordV14EqualColumnWidth.png". Because the
setting is in tiny letters, I added an arrow.)

When I uncheck "Equal Column Width", save the document and reopen it in Libre
Office Writer, the text on the last page is then in the left column only. 

(I added document "The Actor At Work - Lesson Twenty MW.doc" in case you would
want to double-check this yourself.)

>From time to time I exchange documents with others. That's why I sometimes
check what a document looks like for them before sending it.

If you have more questions or remarks, let me know!

Thanks to all the developers for their hard work. 
(I forgot to add that in my first post.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Bart  ---
Created attachment 158995
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The document after changing "Equal Columns" in Word

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Bart  ---
Created attachment 158994
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Checking/unchecking Equal Column width in Word version 14.0

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to NISZ LibreOffice Team from comment #4)
> Consequently it would be no surprise that saving this setting does not
> happen.

So perhaps it also blocks meta bug 88173 (DOCX-Limitations)?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from NISZ LibreOffice Team  ---
I'm somewhat doubtful that a similar setting exists in Word, looking at my W13
and this tutorial:

https://www.howtogeek.com/344125/how-to-adjust-column-size-in-microsoft-word/

Consequently it would be no surprise that saving this setting does not happen.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 131511] FILESAVE DOC(X): Some column settings aren't saved

2020-03-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131511

Dieter  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de
 OS|Linux (All) |All
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
Summary|Some column settings aren't |FILESAVE DOC(X): Some
   |saved?  |column settings aren't
   ||saved
 Blocks||107836, 130447, 104527
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

--- Comment #3 from Dieter  ---
I confirm it with

Version: 7.0.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: 5dcbd1bb557450a2d658a710c163b310c0cee157
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 18363; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win; 
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI-Language: en-GB
Calc: CL

Additional informations:
- happens also when saving as docx


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104527
[Bug 104527] [META] DOC (binary) format bug tracker
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107836
[Bug 107836] [META] Page and section column bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130447
[Bug 130447] [META] DOCX (OOXML) section-related issues
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