Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Special Meeting Needed?

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > Just trying to see if anyone thinks a special meeting is needed to finish > the agenda from last Friday or if we should just punt until next Friday. Given that we didn't get through the entire agenda last Friday, I think a "catch-u

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Tags on BSA

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > Just a warning that some edits to our wiki seems to have broken our ability > to update BSA. Rob and Robinson are actively trying to solve the problem but > it could be an issue with upcoming release. > > I will keep everyone up to d

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Tags on BSA

(moving to just QA, as now we're getting into the nitty-gritty) On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Rob Snelders wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi All, > > Why is it moved? We (well, mostly me) were trying to clean up the documentation of Bugzilla, the BSA, etc. I tried

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice-QA] Minutes for 2013-05-03

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 12:59 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote: > An aside from the discussions, I do like the new QA meeting minutes format, > very easy to see what was covered from the agenda and what actions and "best > practices" are put forth in discussion. > > A reader is now able to follow the agend

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Tags on BSA

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > Just a warning that some edits to our wiki seems to have broken our ability > to update BSA. Rob and Robinson are actively trying to solve the problem but > it could be an issue with upcoming release. Update: The BSA update process

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-4.1.0.0.alpha1 tag created

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Pedro wrote: > Hi Petr, all > > > Petr Mladek wrote >> The release builds does not have the "+" because they are well defined >> by the related tag. > > Ok. Sounds like a reasonable option. > > Maybe this should be documented somewhere, at least for QA people? Joel

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Removing bibisect3* bibisect whiteboard status?

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > Another whiteboard status post. Should we just move forward with removing > bibisect3* whiteboard status'? Now that bibisect40 has everything, there's > really no need for these. +1 > My proposal: > > bibisectrequest -- needs a bi

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Status'

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > QA had a talk a few meetings ago about the need for a couple new whiteboard > status', I have added these to the whiteboard wiki page: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BSA/BugReport_Details#Whiteboard > ... > P.S. On my to d

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning up QA Nabble and Archive folders from Spam?

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Nino Novak wrote: > Am 13.05.2013 00:03, schrieb Thorsten Behrens: > >> That's why we run it on fdo - such that you don't have to worry. ;) > > But in this case, IMHO we /have/ to worry a bit as there has been > increasing spam impact in the last week or so. Yes,

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Method of Phone Call Friday

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > So I want to clarify the plan for Friday in terms of how we are going to > communicate. My pitch unless there are objections (from someone planning on > attending ;) ) - > > 1. Try 5 minutes prior to 1300 to use talkyoo - if everyo

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] NEEDINFO Status Wiki

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/FDO/NEEDINFO > ... > > P.S. Robinson - is location of this appropriate? You're my go to wiki > organization guru :) So the base for Bugzilla stuff is typically QA/Bugzilla. The field here is labeled "St

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] NEEDINFO Status Wiki

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > > Will do. If you're okay with waiting for a major rework again, I'd like to > focus just on NEEDNIFO first, then tackle the other stuff listed in the > email :) Sure, sure. I'll move the page now. I'll ping you when I'm done --R

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA for GSoC project

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Cao Cuong Ngo wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been selected in GSoC this year, project "Extend Support for > Content Management Systems". > > I will implement the connection to Google Drive and properties/version > dialog extension of CMIS. cool! > > It would be great

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes QA-call 2013-05-03

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > > P.S.: Robinson, it would be awesome if we could drop such a note on the > minutes > to the projects@-list in the future so it is kept visible to other parts of > the > project. could you take care of that? Even just dropping the link

[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2013-06-14

Hi all, Minutes from our Friday QA meeting are available here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/June_14 Our next QA Meeting will be on June 28th. Agenda may be found here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/June_28 Cheers, -- Robinson __

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Fixed in 4.2 branch, broken in 4.1 daily, status thoughts?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > So, if we use bugzilla as intended, a bug that is fixed, but not in a released > version yet should be "RESOLVED/FIXED". Once that the release containing the > fix is out it should go to "CLOSED/FIXED". Note the same happens on launchpad

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug submission Assistant

> Op 20-06-13 18:33, Jean Spiteri schreef: >> I am trying to fix fdo#55460 >> . I know this >> is already fixed but the report states that there is a better way >> that can be done. Looks related to the blacklist stuff I added to the BSA recently

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug submission Assistant

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Robinson Tryon wrote: >> Op 20-06-13 18:33, Jean Spiteri schreef: >>> I am trying to fix fdo#55460 >>> <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55460>. I know this >>> is already fixed but the report states that the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug submission Assistant

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Robinson Tryon wrote: > > I haven't found a really clean way to grab just the "active" list of > LibreOffice version numbers, but I refactored some of the > version-grabbing code in query.pl and made it possible to get version > num

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug submission Assistant

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Jean Spiteri wrote: > From what I have understood, the versions are got via a file named: > version.xhtml. Is this correct or not? The processed version #s are formatted and then saved in version.xhtml. They are slurped from the query.cgi page that is downloaded

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Component - BSA needs updated

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Rob Snelders wrote: > Hi Joel, > > Joel Madero schreef op 21-06-2013 21:09: > >> Hi to both of you. >> >> I've added a requested component to FDO (UX-Advice) for bugs that need >> UX input. From what Robinson said we just need to update a single txt >> file in BSA

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Short news about BSA_fr

On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Hi all, > > Short news from the BSA in French. So it's up and running since last > week. Today, I've documented our process on the wiki for our team [1]. > I propose that we let a period of tests/improvements for about 2 months > before I do

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BSA Versions - Update

> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:57:44AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: >> > I have added Bjoern to this as he's the one who might be impacted most >> > because of the Ubuntu issue. >> >> Can we maybe make the wording more explici

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reported issues show the tendency to be more user questions ? BSA related ?

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: > Hi all, > > Last weeks/months I am responding to more and more issues that IMNSHO should > be handled as user questions *first*. Could you provide links to some of the bugs that you think should be handled as user questions first? > Did I ever s

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] all versions BSA collapse

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Tommy wrote: > hi there, > I still see all the old release numbers in the version field of bugzilla... > > I thought to see only "3.3 all versions" while I still see 3.3.0, 3.3.1, > 3.3.2 and so long... Hi Tommy, We've collapsed the version numbers in the BSA, bu

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] all versions BSA collapse

Robinson hath chiseled into stone tablets: > One option available to us in Bugzilla is to hide certain versions on > the New Bug page, but to still make them available when editing a bug. > This would allow us to simplify the number of versions available for a > new report, but then allow us to con

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Etherpad test drive

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > so, indeed, I managed today to set up the rest, including some useful > plugins. > > Please test this Etherpad and let me know any issues you discover. ;-) > > However, be *CAREFUL* - it's still in testing mode without a proper > databa

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > After a long discussion with Robinson we came up with a quasi workable plan > for what we hope to be the new setup for "send feedback..." > ... > ... > Before we move forward looking for feedback, Robinson feel free to expand on > a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 07:07:36PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: >> b) Robinson's main point about ask site is that they don't have the man >> power to be QA's screeners - I think that summarizes his stance in the >> nicest way possible :) Ba

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > Still that cant be learned by telling them "you should have filed the > bug on that system which you dont understand" Hmm...I think that if someone wants to report a bug, we should send them to the bug tracker. I'd like to head them off

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:18:07PM -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote: >> So it sounds like some kind of differentiation page (ala Mozilla) >> could be our biggest win here. >> >> I'll try to mock-up an exa

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > Hi, > all in all, it seems nifty(**), but might be a bit more work to set up (unless > Mozilla is maybe sharing their code with us?). > It's Mozilla -- I'm sure they're sharing their code with us! :-) *does some digging* Let's see...t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

(Apologies if I'm a couple of days late to the party...catching up on emails here) On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Rob Snelders wrote: > > I think we need _really need_ our own bugzilla so we can tweak that install > that it suits us better. Yes, many of us agree. But we've punted on that in th

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Joel Madero wrote: > > P.S. Another option is to have a US call later in the day maybe once a month > to go over the "normal" call and get more people in our timezones involved > with projects - if this is a possibility then I can give everyone my school > schedul

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > > Now the question is - how do we reach out to the NA community and say "we > need to balance out our teams!" - a couple people from the triage contest > were from the US - wonder if they'd be interested. We could go with the tried and true "t

[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2013-07-26

Hello all, Minutes from our QA meeting today are available here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/July_26 Our next QA Meeting will be in 2 weeks on August 9th. Agenda may be found here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/August_09 - - - - - - - New! QA Mont

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] North America QA Online Chat

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > So it looks like we have at least 5 people from North America who are > interested in participating so I say let's do it. nifty! > Date: August 2nd, 2013 > Time: 1500 (EST) so for those on the west coast we're talking Noon :) If I

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] Update from 3.6.7 as EOL

[cc'ing QA, as they might have some suggestions here...] On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: > > I do not know that 4.1.0 would be the best to start a user on, > personallythat is. Some would say 3.6.7 would be best for business users, > but does it have theMSO XML f

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice "Help->Send Feedback" & BSA

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > https://twitter.com/kittylyst/status/363311652076544000 > Ben Evans @kittylyst 2h > > @Sweetshark1 That's not even the 4th most annoying thing > about @bugzilla bug reporting. Now I'm really curious about the 4+ things that are more ann

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] attachments and FR BSA

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Sophie wrote: > Hi all, > > Today we received a new issue from the FR BSA. There was a document joined > to the bug report from what said the reporter but the attachment didn't > reach our qa list. > Do you know if it's an issue with the FR BSA or an issue because

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] attachments and FR BSA

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Sophie wrote: > > So the reporter just sent a mail to the list that he didn't find how to > attach a document to the form. I can't test this evening but will do > tomorrow and send you my feedback. I just took a quick look at the BSA code, and it looks like the att

[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes

Hi all, Minutes from our QA Meeting and our "Pub Chat" are available here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/August_09 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/August_02_NA_Pub_Chat Our next scheduled QA Meeting will be on August 23rd, and our next Pub Chat will be

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Tommy wrote: > > > I have troubles joining in august. I hope to be part of it in september Tommy -- Sorry to hear that you had trouble joining the call. Were you having technical difficulty? We might be able to help you triage the problem :-) --R ___

[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration Plan

Hi All, We've been talking recently about migrating our bugtracker to our own server. There are a number of benefits to such a migration, but we've often glossed-over some of the details of how to effect such a move. Florian R. and I stuck our heads together and came up with some good ideas on ho

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration Plan

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Jochen wrote: > Hi Robinson, > > my thoughts are > > 1) wow - great idea and good plan/implementation > Thanks! We hope that people like it :-) > Then > 2) What benefits? There are a number of reasons for us to migrate to our own bugtracker. Off the top of my he

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration Plan

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM, bfoman wrote: > Robinson Tryon wrote >> 1) Ping our users: >> - Ask our FDO users for permission to include their accounts/data in >> the new install (this could be as simple as a mass-email asking for >> them to reply back to us, or a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration Plan

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Petr Mladek wrote: > > It would be great to avoid the "ask for permission" step if possible. It > would be a lot of work. It would be a lot of work; yes, we should ask a lawyer :-) > Note that the overloaded FDO bugzilla admins > would need to extract the user in

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration Plan

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM, bfoman wrote: > > -Implementation of "take" for QA contact, which should not be too > difficult... > > This is already available in Bugzilla 4.4. FDO runs 4.2.3, but we can run whatever version of Bugzilla we like :-) > - More then one version field (we might di

[Libreoffice-qa] QA, say hello to ProjectLibre

Marc O'Brien, co-founder of ProjectLibre, stopped by the dev list to say hi (see his message at the end of this email). Marc - Please feel welcome to ping the QA Team on this list or to stop by our IRC channel on freenode (#libreoffice-qa). If you have any questions about how we approach QA or jus

[Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Reminder: Friday @ 13:00 UTC

Hi all, Our bi-weekly public QA Call is tomorrow. All are welcome! The Agenda and information for joining-in are available here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/August_23 Cheers, --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] get rid of the "(see in summary)" version field

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Tommy wrote: > I think it's useless both on freedesktop and BSA. > few users use that and most of the time they use inappropriately (I cleaned > up some reports with "see in summary" tag but no version indicated in the > summary). > I think it should be removed fro

[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2013-08-23

Hi all, Minutes from today's QA Meeting are available here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/August_23 Our next QA Meeting will be in 2 weeks: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/September_06 I hope everyone has had a wonderful Friday and (weather permitting)

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time

Hi everyone, I'm resurrecting this thread to let you know that we're going to revisit the QA Call Time and the 'Pub Chat' Time in about a month, after the LibreOffice Conference. Between the primary QA Meetings and the 'Pub Chats,' we hope that everyone who's involved with QA is able to find a tim

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2013-08-23

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Tommy wrote: > > AFAIK the bibisect is a Linux thing and there's nothing like this on > Windows. > Window user can however do manual regression tests using the portable > X-LibreOffice version developed from winPenPack. > > here's their repository including all ver

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2013-08-23

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:19 PM, bjoern wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:58:23AM -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote: >> Assuming that those builds can be unzipped and run, if we shoved those >> builds into a git repo we could (potentially) get a similar workflow >&

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2013-08-23

On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Tommy wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:29:50 +0200, Robinson Tryon > wrote: >>>> Assuming that those builds can be unzipped and run... > > those .zip files once unzipped before running do a brief initial setup > asking which localizati

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2013-08-23

On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Florian Reisinger wrote: > Hi, > > Why not simply use a parallel Installation? > > [bibisect repo with release versions for Windows] I think that there are a number of really good advantages to using a bibisect repo over multiple installs, including: - Each vers

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2013-08-23

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Florian Reisinger wrote: > Hi, > > So I am going to create one for Windows, or is there a volunteer with more > Git Know-How and maybe a faster upload? After some conversation on IRC, I think that a Windows bibisect repo should include the first release in each o

[Libreoffice-qa] BSA conversations at Hackathon

Hi all, Reporting-in from the hackathon in Milan regarding some discussions we've had about the BSA. --- Passed-in Variables: Right now the BSA doesn't receive any variables passed-in from LO due to the way that it's embedding in an iframe, but Cloph and Rob think that we can solve that problem

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:01 AM, bjoern wrote: > I dont know about the randomize one on: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Development/Easy_Hacks > > as it has no query. > > @Robinson: Do you have an idea if that matches words or strings? I thought it was matching on words for

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Collapsing 3.5.x FDO Maintenance

On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 19:55:24 +0200, Joel Madero wrote: > I've begun the process of collapsing 3.5.x to 3.5 all releases On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Tommy wrote: > > I wonder if it's already time to do the same with 3.6.x Per the Release Plan, 3.6 is slated to be collapsed in January: h

[Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Reminder: Friday @ 13:00 UTC

Hi all, Just a quick reminder that the QA Team is having one of our bi-weekly calls tomorrow. All are welcome! The agendum for the meeting and information on how to join via your phone or browser are available here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/October_18 If you're new to

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of QA Call

Hi all, Minutes from our QA call are available here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/October_18 Our next call is going to be in about 2 weeks (tentatively scheduled for November 1st): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/November_01 As Joel mentioned earlier

[Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time [was "Minutes of QA Call"]

On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Robinson Tryon wrote on 2013-10-18 23:01: > >> Our next call is going to be in about 2 weeks (tentatively scheduled >> for November 1st): >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time [was "Minutes of QA Call"]

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Tommy wrote: > > actually you meetings are done friday from 6 to 7 PM (italian time) and I'm > still at work at that time. it would be better for me from 7 to 8 PM > (italian time) but I understand it cannot be changed just for me. > bye, Tommy Hi Tommy, Thanks f

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Trouble bibisecting - 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: > I decided to use violence and removed my binrepo directory and then > extracted bibisect.tar.lzma content again. :-) > After following these guides step-by-step: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect > http://flosmind.w

[Libreoffice-qa] ownCloud for QA

Hi folks, Just a quick update on using ownCloud for QA purposes. General documentation about our instance of ownCloud is available here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/ownCloud The shared 'Common' folder may be used to store general, public content relating to LibreOffice. Anything

[Libreoffice-qa] QA Call moving to Mondays at 19:30 UTC

Hi all, A big thanks to all of the QA folks who have listed their hours of availability on the Doodle or who have emailed us directly. We received a lot of useful input and are optimistic that our new time will allow more QA Team members to join the call! We're right around the switchover time fo

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] PENDING ITEM: Updates to the BSA

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Rob Snelders wrote: > Hi All, > > Looking at the action-items open on [1]. I found this one: > > PENDING ITEM: Updates to the BSA > ACTION: Remove EOL versions from the BSA and implement 'please update' > message (Rob) > > But that has already been implemented back

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] PENDING ITEM: Updates to the BSA

On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:28 AM, libreoffice-ertai.nl wrote: > Hi All, > > I think we should just collapse to a 3.x series and have that tell you that > it is too old. That sounds fine for 3.x builds. Per the ReleasePlan page, 4.0 will reach EOL before the end of this month, so we should have a so

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the QA Call

Hi all, Minutes from our QA Call today are available here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/November_04 We had a great turnout at the meeting, and I hope to see even more of you on the next call. The new timeslot on Monday worked well this week, so I think we'll continue with

[Libreoffice-qa] Preparing for the next QA Call

Hi guys, We ran into some technical difficulties during this week's QA call, so before our next scheduled meeting, I'd like to do a test-run of our call/Hangout setup and iron-out any problems we find. TODOs include: - Review our Google Hangout/Talkyoo room setup - Track down sources of echo and

[Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

Hiya, During the QA Call yesterday we had a brief discussion about the purpose and audience of the BSA. One of our big questions was "Should we let people report bugs against EOL versions using the BSA?". The discussion expanded a bit* and led us to the bigger topic of "Where should users report b

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Robinson Tryon wrote: > > > => What bugs should be reported to our LibreOffice bugtracker? > > => What bugs should be reported to distros? Relevant: We currently have a link in the LibreOffice menus "Help -> Send Feedback" th

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Checking for MAB 4.1 list

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Sophie wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry that I couldn't attend yesterday, I'll be there on the 18th for sure. No worries -- it'll be great to have you on the call! > > Just to let you know, I've taken this from the minute 'Every bug on the > MAB should be tested at leas

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Checking for MAB 4.1 list

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Sophie wrote: >> What do people think about sticking some kind of tag in the Whiteboard >> once this testing is done? Such as: >> >> Confirmed:4.1.3 >> >> Or perhaps OS would be useful: >> >> Confirmed:OSX:4.1.3 >> >> That would allow us to do some nifty data-ma

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Thomas Hackert wrote: >>> => What bugs should be reported to our LibreOffice bugtracker? >>> >>> => What bugs should be reported to distros? > > I would say only bugs, that are in our version of LO should go to > our bugtracker, but the ones from the distros to thei

[Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Robinson Tryon wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Thomas Hackert wrote: >>> We currently have a link in the LibreOffice menus "Help -> Send >>> Feedback" that currently points at the BSA and will point at the >&

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Jochen Schiffers wrote: > Hi *, > > what is your opinion to integrate the following survey as 4st question [1]? > > [1] https://survey.documentfoundation.org/index.php/574531/lang-en What's the plan with the survey? Do we hope to keep it up for an extended period o

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Checking for MAB 4.1 list

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Sophie wrote: > Le 05/11/2013 20:06, Robinson Tryon a écrit : >> >> Here's a quick mockup of how the display might look: >> http://testing.eagleeyet.net/~qubit/mab-mockup/ >> >> It's running off of nonsense data for now

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Sophie wrote: > Le 06/11/2013 01:51, Robinson Tryon a écrit : > > also there should be the ability to localize it (link and page) because > some of us do not use 'Ask', but lists or other forum, and most of us > will want it in its own l

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Pedro wrote: > > Still, if there is a requirement for registration the wall is still there... There is a barrier, yes, but I think most people in the project are happy to have that requirement. > I would be interested in seeing statistics of number of people who c

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Feedback page

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Thomas Hackert wrote: > Good morning Robinson, *, > > Just a question: The text below "Create a bug report" > [...is redundant...] Ah yes, good catch :-) > Would it not be better to just > [...use better text like] > "Having a specific problem, like a software

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM, bjoern wrote: > On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 08:46:36AM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote: >> => What bugs should be reported to our LibreOffice bugtracker? > > IMHO, all bugs. It provides much better visibility of the issues at hand. And > yes, I

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Where should users report bugs?

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:58 PM, bfoman wrote: > Many bugs are reported by users who forgot about their reports. When asked > to provide more details (for instance by NEEDINFO mass mail) they [...] > don't use LO or care anymore. [...] > I do not think that we should babysit bug reports - already t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Preparing for the next QA Call

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Tommy wrote: >> We ran into some technical difficulties during this week's QA call, so >> before our next scheduled meeting, I'd like to do a test-run of our >> call/Hangout setup and iron-out any problems we find. > > I had issue using Talkyoo with my regular phone

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:54 PM, bjoern wrote: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 04:34:31PM +, Michael Meeks wrote: >> + Munich: mail-merge slowness callgrinded: >> AI: + file bug & attach the callgrind trace (Bjoern) >>https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56355 (not Munich

[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

Hiya, As mentioned at the QA Meeting, I've provided a first draft of the proposal to migrate from FDO to our own install of Bugzilla: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/LibreOffice_Bugzilla_Proposal For those interested, please read over the proposal and provide comments and feedback

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Thomas Hackert wrote: > > Though you have given us a detailed proposal, I have still a couple > of questions, sorry ... :( awww, that's okay -- must be comeuppance for all of the questions I ask all the time :-) > 1. What will happen with the existing bugs? Will t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, bfoman wrote: > Hi! > I would propose to: > - search for fulltime Bugzilla administrator and his deputies before > migration - they will be responsible for updating and managing installation Thanks, added. > - consider sending out explanation before, during and af

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Thomas Hackert wrote: >> In the current proposal there are a couple of different "notify >> everyone" steps. In either one of them (probably the one ahead of >> time) we could notify all of our bug reporters of the upcoming >> migration. > > I would prefer to get o

[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Base - Testing Firebird

[was Re: [GSOC]Firebird Integration Weekly Update 12] On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Andrzej Hunt wrote: > On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 09:20 -0700, Terrence Enger wrote: >> How much attention should QA pay to Integrated Firebird? Is there some part >> of the work for which bug reports would be useful

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Thomas Hackert wrote: >> Ah, okay, now I see -- it appears that there are a million (*waves >> hands dramatically*) .po files in that repository, and every one >> of them has a link to FDO. Updating those should be possible with >> a search-and-replace. > > ... and

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Robinson Tryon wrote: > We should be able to use the Apache mod_rewrite module* to rewrite all > requests to > http(s)://bugs.libreoffice.org/* > > to go to > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ > > I'll try to remember to bug clo

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Sophie wrote: >> >> So do those URLs show up in LibreOffice itself, or? (I'm not quite >> sure of how the content of the Translations repo is used...) > > The URL is in the header of our .po file, it's just an indication that > if we find an issue we should fill an

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 7:20 PM, bfoman wrote: > Robinson Tryon wrote >>> - consider sending out explanation before, during and after the migration >>> to >>> all LO product reporters, people on cc lists >> I think notification before the migration is prude

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Thomas Hackert wrote: > Good morning Robinson *, hiya :-) > Would mod_rewrite replace all existing URLs (the ones in the wiki as > well as the ones in SilverStripe as well as the ones from the > blogplanet/twitter feeds and the like)? mod_rewrite is just a modul

[Libreoffice-qa] Test Email

Ignore this message...just testing to see if mail can get through to the QA list :-) --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoff

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > > Just a reminder that URLs in areas that cannot be changed at our will (those > in the LibreOffice software for example - you cannot change URLs on software > that the end user has installed) should preferably use hub.LibreOffice.org >

[Libreoffice-qa] Bibisectzilla

Hi folks, Here's my current plan for merging all of our bibisect repos into one: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bibisect/Bibisectzilla Are there any other master builds in the 3.3 - 3.5 era that we can include? Bjoern - Can we/should we include builds from the 4.0+ repo? Are you still st

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