Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spell Check on Windows 7

2015-06-26 Thread Pedro
jmadero wrote
 We can't make anything happen. They are volunteers (just like you) -
 no one dictates how other people work.
 
 It *might* be a reasonable tender request.
 
 @Pedro - if you want you can submit a grant proposal that we invest in
 developing this option. The more information you have the better (such
 as price to implement, how many bugs were fixed just by deleting the
 profile, etc). Then submit the proposal to treasurer account.

That is simply not true. Many (most?) developers are paid by their companies
to work on LibreOffice (Red Hat, Ubuntu, Collabora, etc). The myth that
everyone is a volunteer and that Open Source is developed for free is
nothing more than a myth.

I assume that current developers don't work on these features because they
don't find it interesting or that no company instructs them to work on it.

If TDF is convinced that this is important then they can do the call for
tender themselves (like they did for LibreOffice Viewer for Android)

Anyway you are a member of the Board of Directors... Aren't you convinced
that this is important?

Cheers,
Pedro



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spell Check on Windows 7

2015-06-26 Thread Joel Madero


On 06/26/2015 08:56 AM, Pedro wrote:
 jmadero wrote
 IMO there is a need for a feature to renew the user profile
 automatically by clicking on a button or something similar [2].
 So we can avoid many bugs and anger.
 Indeed - that's already a request (Backup and restore button for
 profile). :)

 The user swears that he purges the directory and it re-corrupts at
 some point...
 Actually the solution is to find what causes profile corruption (but a
 Repair option would be an intermediate solution for MANY problems)

 How can we make TDF and the Devs take this problem seriously?
We can't make anything happen. They are volunteers (just like you) -
no one dictates how other people work.

It *might* be a reasonable tender request.

@Pedro - if you want you can submit a grant proposal that we invest in
developing this option. The more information you have the better (such
as price to implement, how many bugs were fixed just by deleting the
profile, etc). Then submit the proposal to treasurer account.


Best,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spell Check on Windows 7

2015-06-26 Thread Joel Madero
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:

 jmadero wrote
  We can't make anything happen. They are volunteers (just like you) -
  no one dictates how other people work.
 
  It *might* be a reasonable tender request.
 
  @Pedro - if you want you can submit a grant proposal that we invest in
  developing this option. The more information you have the better (such
  as price to implement, how many bugs were fixed just by deleting the
  profile, etc). Then submit the proposal to treasurer account.

 That is simply not true. Many (most?) developers are paid by their
 companies
 to work on LibreOffice (Red Hat, Ubuntu, Collabora, etc). The myth that
 everyone is a volunteer and that Open Source is developed for free is
 nothing more than a myth.


True - but we don't have power over them either ;) So what difference does
it make to me...in my eyes they are all volunteers (or at least not under
TDF control)


 I assume that current developers don't work on these features because they
 don't find it interesting or that no company instructs them to work on it.

Probably



 If TDF is convinced that this is important then they can do the call for
 tender themselves (like they did for LibreOffice Viewer for Android)

TDF builds an eco system where doers can do - Android was somewhat unique.
The other tenders that we've done all have had backers that thought the
issue was *particularly* important and thus put in the time and energy
(which is a lot) to tender it.


 Anyway you are a member of the Board of Directors... Aren't you convinced
 that this is important?


Sure - but not more important than the other 1000 things on my plate right
now. I don't have the time to do yet another tender, build the support,
find the money, etc... etc... The new grant program is meant to encourage
our members (who are also doers to be more involved with the financing
projects and see what a commitment it is to execute something to the end.
There's only so much we (as the group of directors, deputies, and staff)
can handle...and, I'm stretched way too thin to take on yet another project.


Best,
Joel


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spell Check on Windows 7

2015-06-25 Thread Tommy
On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:13:04 +0200, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol  
o...@sophia-louise.de wrote:



Hi Joel, Pedro,
Am 25.06.2015 um 01:32 schrieb Joel Madero:

Yeah the instructions weren't entirely helpful beyond the superfluous
devs don't care at all! type stuff. I'm tempted to throw it back to
NEEDINFO.

@Pedro - you mind putting it in NEEDINFO and asking for more information
(locales, dictionaries installed, etc... etc). I think this is user
error to be honest but I could be wrong. I think if I put it back to
NEEDINFO the users involved will just go on a tirade about me ;)


We have a problem here that spell checking doesn't work in LibO  
PortableApps on different PCs. I don't know if it is the same problem  
but I will have a look in the evening.



no problem at all with spellcheck and Win7/8.1 using X-LibreOffice  
(another portable package alternative to the one from PortableApps)


http://www.winpenpack.com/main/download.php?view.1354

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spell Check on Windows 7

2015-06-24 Thread Pedro
jmadero wrote
 Anyone aware of spell check issues with Windows 7? Bug#92150 indicates
 that
 this has been an issue for some time - a user confirmed the original
 report
 - but unfortunately neither user has been very helpful in terms of getting
 useful information.

The bug report doesn't really help... The first user is in South Africa
(maybe that is the root of the problem) running Win 7 x64 while the second
is also running Win 7 x64 but seems to be US based...


jmadero wrote
 Anyone else aware of this? If so - can we get some decent non-dramatic
 reproducible steps and then try to figure out what version it broke in.

Spelling works correctly under Windows 7 (but I always do a Custom
installation with English US dictionaries and UI only, removing other
variants)

I could try a Standard install but my guess is that this would help
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/afrikaans-spell-checker

BTW the extensions search engine really SUCKS!!! Searching africa will NOT
find african... how lame is that?

Hope this helps...

Pedro



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spell Check on Windows 7

2015-06-24 Thread Joel Madero
Yeah the instructions weren't entirely helpful beyond the superfluous devs
don't care at all! type stuff. I'm tempted to throw it back to NEEDINFO.

@Pedro - you mind putting it in NEEDINFO and asking for more information
(locales, dictionaries installed, etc... etc). I think this is user
error to be honest but I could be wrong. I think if I put it back to
NEEDINFO the users involved will just go on a tirade about me ;)


Best,
Joel

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:

 jmadero wrote
  Anyone aware of spell check issues with Windows 7? Bug#92150 indicates
  that
  this has been an issue for some time - a user confirmed the original
  report
  - but unfortunately neither user has been very helpful in terms of
 getting
  useful information.

 The bug report doesn't really help... The first user is in South Africa
 (maybe that is the root of the problem) running Win 7 x64 while the second
 is also running Win 7 x64 but seems to be US based...


 jmadero wrote
  Anyone else aware of this? If so - can we get some decent non-dramatic
  reproducible steps and then try to figure out what version it broke in.

 Spelling works correctly under Windows 7 (but I always do a Custom
 installation with English US dictionaries and UI only, removing other
 variants)

 I could try a Standard install but my guess is that this would help
 http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/afrikaans-spell-checker

 BTW the extensions search engine really SUCKS!!! Searching africa will NOT
 find african... how lame is that?

 Hope this helps...

 Pedro



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spell Check on Windows 7

2015-06-24 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Hi Joel, Pedro,
Am 25.06.2015 um 01:32 schrieb Joel Madero:

Yeah the instructions weren't entirely helpful beyond the superfluous
devs don't care at all! type stuff. I'm tempted to throw it back to
NEEDINFO.

@Pedro - you mind putting it in NEEDINFO and asking for more information
(locales, dictionaries installed, etc... etc). I think this is user
error to be honest but I could be wrong. I think if I put it back to
NEEDINFO the users involved will just go on a tirade about me ;)


We have a problem here that spell checking doesn't work in LibO 
PortableApps on different PCs. I don't know if it is the same problem 
but I will have a look in the evening.



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spell Check on Windows 7

2015-06-24 Thread Joel Madero


On 06/24/2015 10:13 PM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote:
 Hi Joel, Pedro,
 Am 25.06.2015 um 01:32 schrieb Joel Madero:
 Yeah the instructions weren't entirely helpful beyond the superfluous
 devs don't care at all! type stuff. I'm tempted to throw it back to
 NEEDINFO.

 @Pedro - you mind putting it in NEEDINFO and asking for more information
 (locales, dictionaries installed, etc... etc). I think this is user
 error to be honest but I could be wrong. I think if I put it back to
 NEEDINFO the users involved will just go on a tirade about me ;)

 We have a problem here that spell checking doesn't work in LibO
 PortableApps on different PCs. I don't know if it is the same problem
 but I will have a look in the evening.

Awesome thanks K-J :)
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