Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday

2015-11-26 Thread m.a.riosv
Thanks for the information. But I'm subscribed to the list time ago. Miguel Ángel. Hi All, > BTW would be nice listen from the candidates their opinion about concrete > matters like this one. Should have suggested. If you're really interested in knowing candidates views on specific items you

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2015-11-26 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 19:03 +0100, Markus Mohrhard wrote: > please add a performance test that ensures that future refactorings > won't regress here. In general any patch claiming performance > improvements should be accompanied by a performance test to make sure Great idea =) and easy

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday

2015-11-26 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 26/11/2015 17:00, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, > In the early days, there was the meme that we needed good bug reports. > Then that changed to good sample documents; tThen finding the first > affected version; and now bibisecting. You forgot the "please provide a full backtrace with symbols"

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice releases (was: Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday)

2015-11-26 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 04:27:58PM -0700, Pedro wrote: > But since you can't ask the developers to do such a boring job, even that > won't solve the problem... Thats not entirely true. Yes, just asking some random developer to fix some random regression (likely by another developer) is a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice releases (was: Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday)

2015-11-26 Thread Pedro
Hi Bjoern Bjoern Michaelsen wrote > Note however that regressions _are_ being watched at the ESC. And people > are > also watching who caused them (which is only possible when they are > bibisected) and where -- at least I am doing this already for quite a > while. Im > not calling names in

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday

2015-11-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Joel Madero wrote on 25-11-15 16:22: > Feel free to email the developer list and try to recruit developers to > do what you're asking. No one is stopping you from doing this :) Doing > it when many (most) of the regressions are not fully triaged might be a > frustrating process for all involved.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday

2015-11-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Joel, Joel Madero wrote on 26-11-15 02:31: > If QA members just bisected each regression (fully bisect) and > prioritized correctly I *honestly* believe that the regression count > would fall. I don't understand why this point is being ignored as it's > literally *completely* in our control.

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2015-11-26 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Cloph, Sophie, Stephan, Jan-Marek, JanI, Michael M, Miklos, Andras, Caolan, Bjoern, Lionel, Bubli, Armin, Michael S, Kendy, Eike, Robinson, Thorsten * Completed Action Items: + UserAgent - drop bundled-languages (Michael) + UserAgent - produce a patch for review

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday

2015-11-26 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All, > There is a gradually growing number of regressions. Also bibisected > regressions. I know the ESC has attention for this, and that the board > recently approved projects/investments that are intended to help to > change this trend. > Pedro has a point that he doesn't like to accept the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2015-11-26 Thread Markus Mohrhard
Hey Michael, Keny, Eike, On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > > + calc s/w interpreter-related patch > [ also got in before the freeze; an 18x speedup on CPU for > some test sheets; currently guarded

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday

2015-11-26 Thread m.a.riosv
El 26/11/15 a las 2:31, Joel Madero escribió: > Hi There, > > On 11/25/2015 02:04 PM, m.a.riosv wrote: >> BTW would be nice listen from the candidates their opinion about >> concrete matters like this one. > > I would be surprised if there was any deviation for any of the > candidates - we've

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday

2015-11-26 Thread Pedro
Hi Joel, Cor, all jmadero wrote > I would like to take part also - I've thought about a few new ideas that > I think might work :) I won't be available until December 8. Almost any > time (absent really really late to really really early) would work > between December 8 - 10. Shall we aim for a