[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Sorry for the spam

2014-01-06 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi, Sorry - I've tried to open up the ML a bit, but it resulted only in 10 spam messages :-( - so now heavier moderation applied again. Should be OK again now. Regards, Kendy ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Advice on adding Smart-Art related settings

2013-10-02 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Jacobo, Miklos, Miklos Vajna píše v St 02. 10. 2013 v 14:44 +0200: With the current one, a user can change the shapes but those changes won't be exported back to docx and that's confusing. Indeed. Read the original rationale here:

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Advice on adding Smart-Art related settings

2013-10-02 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. píše v St 02. 10. 2013 v 17:01 +0200: The problem is that there's no indication that you lose data with Ungroup. (In general, the only data I would expect to lose by using Ungroup is group-related metadata.) There would be indication, but only ex-post; I hope that is

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Document Colors

2013-08-09 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. píše v Čt 08. 08. 2013 v 18:28 +0200: Also, if the concept of document colors wasn't clear, I mean the colors that are in use by the document. Using a custom color for something would add that color to the Document colors section, and removing all elements with that custom

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Shape Icons

2013-08-07 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. píše v Út 06. 08. 2013 v 16:14 +0200: Since the shape icons in the Symbolic icon set have the same silhouette as the ones in the Tango testing set, could someone just make a script to automatically make the Tango testing shape icons based on the Symbolic shape icons? I

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Recent files dropdown

2013-05-02 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Samuel, Samuel Mehrbrodt píše v Út 30. 04. 2013 v 21:42 +0200: Done, thanks for the pointer :) Looks so much better, thank you for this! I've blogged about that, with a screenshot, I hope you don't mind? ;-)

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Recent files dropdown

2013-04-30 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi, I have just implemented a dropdown for the 'Open' toolbar button: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Recent-files.png To me this feels really good, I hope OK for you too? :-) Comments appreciated. All the best, Kendy ___

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-28 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, Stefan Knorr (Astron) píše v Čt 24. 01. 2013 v 17:28 +0100: So, this leads me to believe that we're best of just removing the background images feature from 4.0. I believe I've removed this already for RC1:

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-18 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Michel, Michel Renon píše v St 09. 01. 2013 v 18:15 +0100: May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ? - why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ? - if i understand ok (images and personas are exclusive), we can have the choices : *Toolbar background*

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-08 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws píše v Po 07. 01. 2013 v 22:56 +0100: Idea looks great to me and is an invitement for futher enhancements in the future :-) I gues the code in a daily from 2012-12-28 (1) is not yet complet? I see the option page, but choosing an own background image does not work

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Writer Styles Drop-Down problem

2012-12-14 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Samuel, Samuel Mehrbrodt píše v Út 11. 12. 2012 v 21:46 +0100: please notice the following bug, it's about using white font color in the Styles Drop-Down [1]. What is the best solution for this? [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58161 Good question :-) - I see three

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Default Styles in Writer

2012-11-24 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws píše v Pá 23. 11. 2012 v 18:07 +0100: [..] Reasons: * Text body is the same as Default Style, except that it has a margin at the bottom, so I would suggest to remove Default Style from the list. This is not true. Nearly all styles inherit from Default Style. And

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Crash recovery dialog

2012-11-12 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi there, I've just got one more compliant about our crash recovery dialog - no big surprise I guess. But this time with a good idea how to improve the experience without having to touch that [== without too much work] ;-) What about not to show the crash recovery dialog if the document that

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Input about Options WAS Re: Need Developer Input about Options

2012-11-12 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. píše v Pá 09. 11. 2012 v 11:53 +0100: - Graphics Output Use hardware acceleration and Use Anti-Aliasing are in the same category for me: to watch for with certain use. Can you elaborate? Unfortunately the Use hardware acceleration

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Killed the ButtonBar in slide sorter

2012-09-26 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws píše v St 26. 09. 2012 v 11:49 +0200: Please note that Renaissance is 3-4 years old project. So them problems identified at that time have been solved ;-) ? No, the solution offered at that time is not valid any more ;-) Worse - proved as annoying. I can understand

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Killed the ButtonBar in slide sorter

2012-09-26 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Michel, Michel Renon píše v St 26. 09. 2012 v 13:45 +0200: UI decisions should be taken based on facts, analysis, polls, statistics. So this is the statistics I have at hand: Several people angry about a feature, and nobody praising it. Now, you are the first one, so please tell me how

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Killed the ButtonBar in slide sorter

2012-09-25 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, UX guys, I've talked to an Impress power user recently, and he was complaining about the buttons in the slide sorter [the thing you can see on the attached screenshot]. This was actually not the first complaint I got, and also I remembered our discussions that we should do something

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Killed the ButtonBar in slide sorter

2012-09-25 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. píše v Út 25. 09. 2012 v 12:19 +0200: Slide duplication was not easily accessible after this, so I added it to the right-click menu: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=980c82bf423bcf89e17b0e45ffc4d946737b8d7b

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Killed the ButtonBar in slide sorter

2012-09-25 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws píše v Út 25. 09. 2012 v 14:58 +0200: I've talked to an Impress power user recently, and he was complaining about the buttons in the slide sorter [the thing you can see on the attached screenshot]. This was actually not the first complaint I got, and also I remembered

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Window background (was: Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.0.0 beta2 available for testing)

2012-09-14 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, Stefan Knorr píše v Pá 29. 06. 2012 v 09:50 +0200: sorry, it took so long... I have attached a mock-up of what I'd like. It builds on the last screenshot that you made available of the opaque menu bars – so hopefully it's current. As you can see, the proposal is quite simple...

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Patch] [Feature] Gradient Fill for Cells in Calc

2012-09-10 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Muthu, Muthu Subramanian K píše v Po 03. 09. 2012 v 13:04 +0530: I have attached a first cut patch for the gradient fill for cells. I initially tried using only the 'Gradient' tab from the area fill dialog - but it was too tightly tied to it. On the other hand probably we might want to

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH][REVIEW 3-6][REVIEW 3-6-1] Create the desktop icon (on Windows) again

2012-08-16 Thread Jan Holesovsky
place, so I don't want just push it without your approval ;-) - but I believe there are good reasons to revert the behavior, at least for the near future. Thank you a lot, Kendy From 12f03403fe67c625500f7deb266e3141f7648c73 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz Date: Thu, 16

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Windows start link on the desktop

2012-08-15 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, On 2012-08-15 at 01:22 +0200, Stefan Knorr wrote: I'd like to ask you to reconsider the decision there ;-) Sorry that you don't like the new default, though, if you look at my comment #4 in the bug, you'll probably see that I noted that views vary wildly on this issue... Yes,

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Windows start link on the desktop

2012-08-14 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, all, I was surprised when I noticed that the Windows installer now defaults to no desktop icon (during the installation, Create a start link on the desktop is unchecked). Andras told me it was this bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49919 I'd like to ask you to

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [REVIEW 3-6] Window background of toolbars

2012-08-10 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, Stefan Knorr píše v Pá 29. 06. 2012 v 09:50 +0200: sorry, it took so long... I have attached a mock-up of what I'd like. It builds on the last screenshot that you made available of the opaque menu bars – so hopefully it's current. As you can see, the proposal is quite simple...

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Repo / place for original artwork files (was: Re: [PUSHED] Make new About dialogue a little nicer)

2012-08-09 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, Stefan Knorr (Astron) píše v Čt 09. 08. 2012 v 10:24 +0200: Terribly sorry for missing your mail :-( Can you please describe me the problem more exactly? I can see the images, when I go eg. to http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/tango/lc10713.png

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] fix bug 51231, but...

2012-08-02 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, [Keeping this just the UX-advise list.] On 2012-08-02 at 01:34 +0200, Stefan Knorr wrote: So, you read until here, possible solutions that we could explore: #1 Have the overlay appear permanently on the currently active slide PRO: touch-friendly, not too flashy, expectable CON:

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] fix bug 51231, but...

2012-08-02 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Ivan, Terribly sorry for the belated answer. On 2012-08-02 at 18:15 +0400, Ivan Timofeev wrote: So can I use your sign-off for reverting http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=4866b20ec6205b04cd21077fd00d68c4d4bb2c1b on the libreoffice-3-6 branch? Yes, if Astron

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Color schemes

2012-07-26 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi UX guys, I've been poking around the code that is responsible for the color schemes as found in Tools - Options... - Appearance - Color scheme There is some terrible duplication of functionality with vcl going on there, and I'd love to clean it up. On the way, I'd like to remove the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Calc's tab colors and GTK tabs

2012-07-13 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Ruslan, Thanks so much for working on this! I'm cc'ing the UX-advise guys, I am sure they'll be able to create a mockup for the generic tab look in Calc. IIRC, they even proposed a different ordering of the tabs and the buttons to move them, but I am not exactly sure if it is documented

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Smooth filter - to release notes

2012-06-18 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Tomaž, On 2012-06-18 at 15:05 +0200, Tomaž Vajngerl wrote: I intended to add this to the release notes but 3.7 release is still far away and I want to play with the UI for filters. I want to make something similar to contour editor and image map but for image manipulation, where you could

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] fdo#35365 default font color for documents

2012-06-08 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Benjamin, Benjamin Drung píše v Pá 08. 06. 2012 v 01:18 +0200: here's a patch to fix bug fdo#35365. Please also apply the patch in the 3.5 and 3.6 branch. The underlying bug fdo#50861 is only partially fixed by this patch. At least two solutions comes to my mind for a full fix: 1)

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Native rendering of the Calc input box

2012-05-28 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi, Again non-controversial, I hope (?) :-) http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=d02e19e3d8697132f63eca353047a572b1e459ea This improves the rendering of the Calc's input line to allow for theming according to the platform where it runs. In Gnome, it looks like the following:

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PUSHED] Re: Remove option to hide the scrollbars

2012-05-28 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, On 2012-05-25 at 19:23 +0200, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: can you have a look at why it seems slightly off-centre? Maybe the ruler widgets are wider than the rulers themselves seem. Thus, the right side gets the margin you set and the left side gets set margin + dead part of the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Mirek's visit in SUSE :-)

2012-05-25 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Olivier, Olivier R. píše v Čt 24. 05. 2012 v 05:18 -0700: Lighter border window (no 3d effect): http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=51fdf273e9893d3d05c99a09e1c2e5835a78e891 There is still the 3D effect on the bottom line of the stylist and the navigator if you

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Mirek's visit in SUSE :-)

2012-05-25 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, Stefan Knorr (Astron) píše v Čt 24. 05. 2012 v 13:23 +0200: Kill INSRT/OVER (and introduce 'Overwrite' only when overwriting): http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=b30e202861e9bdba4d86e76ba8a6f059da8efc31 Here, I would like to propose two things: * make

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Mirek's visit in SUSE :-)

2012-05-23 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi, After we have found that Mirek lives in the same city where I am located, we agreed to spend a day designing and hacking together in the SUSE office :-) I loved it, and must say that it was very fruitful; if you haven't seen the most recent daily builds, please see the screenshot (with

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] A sheet by default

2012-05-23 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Rainer, Rainer Bielefeld píše v Po 21. 05. 2012 v 20:08 +0200: I think we have something like common sense here, so I submitted Bug 50183 - CONFIGURATION: Default number of sheets for new document should be 1 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50183 I've added some information

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove option to hide the scrollbars

2012-05-17 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron, On 2012-05-11 at 15:51 +0200, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: I'd like to turn the original bug report into an EasyHack to actually remove these settings for good (and hide the scrollbars when they are not necessary, as it is happening now) TOGETHER with decreasing the amount of

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PUSHED] Re: [libreoffice-design] Writer background image - contest! :-)

2012-04-27 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. píše v St 25. 04. 2012 v 19:23 +0200: So - if you can propose a better looking ruler, that would be great, just please so far keep in mind that it should play well with the default Windows theme :-) - other than that, let's go for changing that! If you can create a

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] The no border text feature in Writer 3.5 is not complete

2012-02-15 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi NoOp, Jean-Francois, NoOp píše v Út 14. 02. 2012 v 20:16 -0800: So, introducing the new feature is ok for me as it may help some users. But this decision should not interfere with satisfied users who now *lack* an important visual clue when devising their documents. In the

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Headers / footers / page break indicators read-only documents

2012-01-31 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi UX guys, Recently I opened a read-only document (the License information of LO via Help - Information about License... - [Show License]), and while reading that, few times the headers / footers indicators appeared. We discussed it with Cedric, and we cannot agree whether to show them or not

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] Re: [PATCH] optimized zoom to use more common intervals

2012-01-25 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cor, On 2012-01-26 at 00:16 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: Also I changed the ZOOM_FACTOR from 1.1 to 2^(1/4), it feels better here, the 1.1 means way too much wheel rotation to increase / decrease the zoom considerably; but of course can be changed easily when another [..] I also

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [REVIEW 3-5: Late feature] Improvements in the header / footer behavior

2012-01-06 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cedric, all, On 2012-01-05 at 17:06 +0100, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: I'm all for it, but the following commits are fixing some side-effects or UI weird things on this thread: Thank you! :-) Show the page break tab under the mouse instead of the end of the line. That fixes the UI problems

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [REVIEW 3-5: Late feature] Improvements in the header / footer behavior

2011-12-30 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Ivan, On 2011-12-30 at 19:35 +0400, Ivan Timofeev wrote: May be this is better now, may be not... I think that a timeout option in the Tools - Options will save us from the users' grumbling. :) - The typical reaction from a nervous user (like me): User: I don't want to wait one

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [REVIEW 3-5: Late feature] Improvements in the header / footer behavior

2011-12-29 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cor, On 2011-12-29 at 14:46 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: How does that behave when while scrolling the mouse moves over the top/bottom of a page? Like, when you use the mouse wheel? It seems that there are cases when it makes the makers to appear; but does not feel annoying to me, because it

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [REVIEW 3-5: Late feature] Improvements in the header / footer behavior

2011-12-29 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cedric, all, I have been playing recently with the great new header / footer indicators, and there were 2 things that I considered suboptimal from the UX point of view: - Appearing / disappearing of the controls after 1 second I noticed that most of the time when I am using that, I am

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] Index table: character style 'Index link' instead of 'Internet link'

2011-12-28 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Alexander, Astron, On 2011-12-22 at 20:28 +0100, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: When character style is 'Internet Link', all items are underline. In my humble opinion, it doesn't look nice. Is this a mistake or a conscious decision of developers? [...] Feel free to weigh in there. In

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [PATCH] [PUSHED] Automatically select an option page if a user clicks on a category

2011-12-21 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi August, Astron, On 2011-12-21 at 11:10 +0100, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: All three of your patches have been pushed on master. Hehe, yeah, I think he pushed them himself, right? In any case, many thanks for the pony, just did a first build, works beautifully and you also got a

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Don't show non-printing characters by default

2011-12-21 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cedric, I've just pushed this: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=40fe511d0ed56d4481cad9c278899f3b9167cdb5 both to master, as well as libreoffice-3-5 - so writing you because you seem to have changed that to showing by default. This does not affect showing eg. the page

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Input bar UX

2011-12-12 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Noel, I really love the new input line feature :-) I found few things I'd try to fix if I had time - these are the things I like to do - but impossible ATM, sorry :-( Can you please have a look at them? CCing the UX guys in case they disagree; but hopefully these shouldn't be controversial:

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PUSHED] Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] fdo#41187: Grid display settings in Writer does not apply correctly to Page Preview

2011-10-06 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Takeshi, On 2011-10-06 at 20:25 +0900, Takeshi Abe wrote: On fdo#41187 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41187 the reporter suggests that Print grid should be ignored unless Display grid is checked. I am wondering if an easy trick that making Print grid checked/unchecked