[Libreoffice-ux-advise] The "no border text" feature in Writer 3.5 is not complete

2012-02-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
ion was there: users could display or hide the text limits; why change that? This opinion seems somewhat shared by some others since the v.3.5 release. What people here think? Thanks for your work and for your attention. Best regards, -- Jean-Francois

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] The "no border text" feature in Writer 3.5 is not complete

2012-02-17 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
es: please, don't tell the new UX-ers that they'd get what they want if they code it themselves. That's not encouraging into any further participation, thus this is counter-productive. All the best and thank you for your attention, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux _

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] ux-advise advice

2012-02-17 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
essages wrt various UX topics I'm considering important, I'd better know how things are held so that the threads don't go wild because of respective ignorance. Thanks for your time. Best regards, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] ux-advise advice

2012-02-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hello Michael and all, wow! At least! Some *precise* and to the point answers! Thanks! Le 18/02/2012 09:21, Michael Meeks a écrit : On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 08:50 +0100, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: As I understand (correct me if necessary) this list goal -- which I find excellent -- is to

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] ux-advise advice

2012-02-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
would be beneficial to their users. (hence my visit here ;) Now, back to the discussion :) Le 18/02/2012 15:51, Michael Meeks a écrit : On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 14:00 +0100, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Ah! Ah! I'm starting to get the real thing which has nothing to see with what I was

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] ux-advise advice

2012-02-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Michael, Stefan, thanks for your time and for making me feel guilty for not joining the devs bandwagon ;-) Le 18/02/2012 19:45, Stefan Knorr (Astron) a écrit : On 18 February 2012 17:22, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: In a former part of my professional life, I had been an unofficial

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] The "no border text" feature in Writer 3.5 is not complete

2012-02-20 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
to grab a daily build to test it. I won't, for sure! Thanks for your hard work and for listening. All the best, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] The "no border text" feature in Writer 3.5 is not complete

2012-02-24 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
with testing and giving feedback in an early stage :-) Yes, for sure... -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] The "no border text" feature in Writer 3.5 is not complete

2012-03-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
commit/?id=7794baf89e74fc8308c8e1505f47d60b6547465f Don't hesitate to grab a daily build to test it. I did! LOdev 3.6.0alpha0+ Build ID: 9518535-d09cf17-8a74106-c695ecd-16afab Great job Cedric! Thank you! Exactly the way I thought it should be. All the best, -- Jean-Francois Nifen

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] named formatting attributs overwrite automatic formatting attributs (paragraph / character)

2012-03-29 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
d apply the correct character style (bold emphasis by default) instead of setting the bold property to the underlying characters. Side note: I feel a very important need for table styles in Writer. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libr

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Proportional cropping of images

2012-04-11 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
iple steps and allow a simple way of changing dimensions proportionaly. That checkbox state should be recorded. This has annoyed me since the very beginning when I got to use OOo 1.1. Would the change be a big deal? Thanks for your attention, -- Jean-Francois

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] mouse centered scrolling

2012-04-28 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 28/04/2012 15:27, Regina Henschel a écrit : The position of [ and ] depends on local. A German keyboard has it on AltGr+8 and AltGr+9. Yes. FR kbd has them on AltGr+5 / AltGr+) -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Full customization of LibreOffice

2012-05-06 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
, contrary to what you're thinking. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [writer] Paragraph formatting

2012-05-07 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
't see, I think it would be better to have both presets' selection to behave consistently. Thanks for your attention, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org htt

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] layout of data bars

2012-05-20 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
tween the cell contents (ie, the data bar) and the cell (possibly invisible) border, then the large layout is the best for me. In this case, with the small version, the user is constrained to have some spacing which he might not want. Thus the large layout fits more needs/tastes. -- Jean-Fra

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] A sheet by default

2012-05-21 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
size is 7,398 B -> is a 15 B difference such a big deal? As for the users' confusion: yes, it might be. OTOH, I think it might also help users understand a spreadsheet can hold more than one sheet. As a result, I'd stay with the current 3 default

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Mirek's visit in SUSE :-)

2012-05-26 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
quot;Edit" menu, which would obviously mostly serve to advertise our new accelerator ** Mirek's proposal of a red caret seems very good to me if we go with either of the above two ways (but a red block would be even more descriptive methinks) Dunno about the red thing wrt visually impa

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-03 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
t the print preview is cluttered. To me, it is too much integrated with the modules. A modal window would less disturb the user, making things clear about what is what (eg: the page preview in Calc displays two zoom rulers... why so? Which is the right one?) -- Jean-Francois Nifenecke

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-03 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
cise with the Format/Page dialog and that the page preview is quite unpracticable to this regard. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailma

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-03 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
moved, because we have them now in the status bar. I wanted to point that the close appearance of both items (top slider in the Preview toolbar and bottom slider in the status bar) confuse the user. This is why I'd prefer a modal window for page previewing. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Advice required on auto text resize (Impress)

2012-10-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
is the actual font size. And, disabling the aufit feature after having enabled it should give the original font size back, of course. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Writer] Header/footer deletion from the UI

2012-10-28 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
continue working on his document. But, of course, this operation should be undoable (which it is not currently). Thanks for your comments, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Writer] Header/footer deletion from the UI

2012-10-29 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
gy is the core of the question. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Fwd: [PATCH] Hide the rulers in Writer by default for a cleaner look]

2012-11-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
se the software. We, as a free-software, have a responsibility: make the people understand that, whatever tool they elect, they have to understand it then to learn its use. So I repeat my answer: the rulers must certainly *not* be hidden, neither in Writer nor in Impress. -- Jean-Fran

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Fwd: [PATCH] Hide the rulers in Writer by default for a cleaner look]

2012-11-02 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
rd is a productivity tool, when compared with the mouse, as it doesn't interfere with the user workflow. During trainings, I always emphasize on that point (regardless of the tool or operating system). -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ L

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Meeting to discuss the Template manager lively?

2012-12-06 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
size on that and LibO rulez :) All the best, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Should formatting apply to word at cursor position or only characters typed after formatting was invoked

2012-12-08 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
or underline a whole word, but uncommon for a whole word to be a subscript or a superscript. Would this subscript/superscript behaviour be optional? I've seen technical docs using superscript for whole words. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux __

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Deleting multiple styles at once

2013-02-08 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
ssage box for that matter. My 2 euro-cents, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Deleting multiple styles at once

2013-02-13 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
it really apply? I haven't got a definitive answer here. Or if devs can re-associate style to the text, then no need for confirmation. But it should be much much more complicated ! Yep. This would be the best option and I agree it might be difficult to implement.

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Think about the Save Icon and Navigator Icon please

2013-02-19 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
which people don't really understand. That's the cabinet icon Fitoschido was referring to. Not everyone knows what a cabinet is because they never had one at work. No wonder they can't understand the icon meaning. This is why *I* don't like that one and prefer the (usual) flopp

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Think about the Save Icon and Navigator Icon please

2013-02-19 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
ascertain that most of my colleagues wouldn't know either (fortunately we're using the Windows version with the floppy icon ;-) And it doesn't look like any nightstand I had. Some kind of a cultural gap, maybe? -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Increase MAX_FILTER_ENTRIES in Styles and Formatting dialog

2013-03-13 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
o remain, imo. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Recent files dropdown

2013-04-30 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
to the congrats above. Really very nice. I'd also prefer file names alone + tooltip showing the full path to the file. Is there a maximum number of pickable files? -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list L

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager issues pending

2013-05-20 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
ent *from* a template. This is what a user wants most of the time. I guess the words have some weight here. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Proposal to limit border widths to 4 values

2013-06-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
bumps when I think to the work that was required from the poor guy who made that... err... thing. Worse, if possible: this %$&§ is *still* in use although I trained these people to use Draw :,( -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LO's styles are more confusing then MSO's (Was Re: some thoughts on the Sidebar)

2013-09-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
al format is, well, local. IOW, changing a style is worth the few extra clicks, if any and setting direct formatting is actually requiring many more clicks (you forgot to multiply the local formatting clicks by the number of local settings). -- Jean-Francois Nifeneck

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LO's styles are more confusing then MSO's (Was Re: some thoughts on the Sidebar)

2013-09-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Styles are a blessing. And no other tool comes to par with LibreOffice for that matter. Let's claim it! -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freed

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
re meant to apply. AFAIK, the current hiding mechanism do support that well. -- Table styles A long-time missing feature -- Simplify the list styles (though I do like them) and probably others... All the best, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux _

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-29 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
job in their context. Hopefully I was clear enough, that time. All the best, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LO's styles are more confusing then MSO's (Was Re: some thoughts on the Sidebar)

2013-09-29 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
omatic behaviours, just because it means you forget it after a (short) while and if things go bad, you don't know how to set them back. Having been in first level help desk for years, I can see how often people are bitten by such automatisms (auto backup is an example). > > Just my

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LO's styles are more confusing then MSO's (Was Re: some thoughts on the Sidebar)

2013-09-29 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Noone wants to hear these words, but they have to be told. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Numberic field - spin up/down behaviour

2013-10-04 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi Tomaž, Le 11/09/2013 16:31, Tomaž Vajngerl a écrit : > > What do you think about this change? > A lng time dream of mine \o/ -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] File menu thoughts ...

2013-10-10 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
press a shortcut, the software then shows a menu with all current metadata variables, and a "Add..." entry for adding a new one). My 2 euro-cents, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreof

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
there > will be need for that. Argh! Stop comparing LibO to MSO. Please. LibO has to get its own personality and be itself. Promoting styles, for instance :) -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Li

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi Mirek, Le 14/11/2013 22:45, Mirek M. a écrit : > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker > <mailto:jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net>> wrote: > > Hi, > > Le 14/11/2013 17:10, Mirek M. a écrit : > > I would definitely vote f

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-15 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
more misplaced Navigation buttons , -- the functionality would be more visible, even if the Navigator is not on screen, -- Ctrl+F would call the bunch of search tools (I love shortcuts ;) What do you think? -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-15 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
s doesn't seem very confusing to me. YMMV. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] alien format warning box buttons position

2013-11-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
uot;Use ODF Format"). I fear that John Doe understands "Office" as "LibreOffice" whereas it stands for "MS-Office". So, IMO, the button selection is not only a question of placement.It is also a question of clarity of contents. Well,

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-22 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
o > keep > the bar displayed. What do you think? This makes sense to me (yet another toolbar!), although I can't see why the "navigation" tools couldn't be integrated within another existing toolbar. The Search toolbar comes to mind first, of course

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Startcenter greeting text

2013-11-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
reover this is consistent with the OS startup menu. As for the "Writer Document", I don't like the "document" word because the suite does just that: documents, whatever the module used. Writer creates *text* documents, Calc generates *sp

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-24 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
quot;don't touch that" or "transfert the functionality to some place where John Doe can find it as easily as he would now". My two proposals above are going that route. HTH, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ L

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [writer] Where is the table cell unprotection option?

2014-06-04 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
one. Best, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81902] UI: Navigator-window should be not floating but fixed on left side

2014-08-05 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
emove that floating window since the navigator is in the > sidebar (see bug #73151). > Unless I missed the obvious, the sidebar doesn't allow to view the Navigator *and* the Stylist both at once. In this case, I much prefer the two individual panels, anchored one above the other (on the r

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 73151] Navigator, Gallery, Styles&Formatting should open in the Sidebar

2014-08-07 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
the sidebar, is to put the panes into "View > Floating Panes" (and > remove them from the toolbar). > Dunno how restrictive is your wording "Floating Panes", but it is obvious to me that these panes *must* be able to be anchored. Are you trying to

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81475] Meta: enhancing Writer's standard and formatting toolbars

2014-08-07 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
, the font drop-down *is* used very often. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 73151] Navigator, Gallery, Styles&Formatting should open in the Sidebar

2014-08-29 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
;s any yet. A professional writer or power user needs accessing the Navigator and the Stylist all the time. Keeping the current shortcuts (F5 and F11 resp.) is a requirement. BTW, having new ones for the other Sidebar panes would ensure consistency. Thanks, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 88709] Allow Multiple References to Same Footnote

2015-01-24 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
chor character style instead of hard-formatting it using superscript. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81168] Remove placeholder names for accessible objects

2015-02-05 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
ld also be useful >> for many other types of objects. > +1000! BTW, note that currently, the naming constraints are not consistent across objects: some accept spaces (eg: frame name) others won't (eg: table name). -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 93872] Make Navigator Navigation Toolbar Dockable

2015-09-04 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
ative providing the same capabilities would be interesting to check but I can't see where the mockups you provide in the bug report 89566 can compare to the current Navigation toolbar. Or did I miss smthg? Anyway, thanks for your work. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 93872] Make Navigator Navigation Toolbar Dockable

2015-09-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
to notice that at first. Does the drop down (which is not displayed in the mockup) include all the current Navigation toolbar buttons, ie: Reminders, Controls, etc? -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libr

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 94091] Removing File > Printer Settings

2015-09-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
from another one (my actual situation for the template stated above). Well, anyway, the Paper tray option is already in the Page Style dialog. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 94131] FEATURE REQUEST - Easier Setting Default Templates

2015-09-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi Le 18/09/2015 13:23, bugzilla-dae...@bugs.documentfoundation.org a écrit : UX: what do you think? Agreed. But, conversely, going back to the default default template (hard-coded?) should be easy as well. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux