Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-13 Thread Drew Jensen
sorry for the second post - but I should correct something I said. Just realized; about today's build not starting, user error! I downloaded the wrong daily build files ;- ( 32 but vs 64 bit), looks like I need to wait a bit longer for the 64 bit Linux build to finish. On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-13 Thread Drew Jensen
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:33 AM, Bunth Tamás wrote: > Hi Alex, > > On 10 April 2018 at 15:04, Alexander Thurgood > wrote: > > Le 10/04/2018 à 12:30, Tamas Bunth a écrit : > > Read through your blog posts, sounds really promising, and I am > >

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-12 Thread Bunth Tamás
Hi Alex, On 10 April 2018 at 15:04, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 10/04/2018 à 12:30, Tamas Bunth a écrit : > Read through your blog posts, sounds really promising, and I am > interested in testing with various hsqldb ODB files that I have accrued > over time through

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-12 Thread Bunth Tamás
Hi, On 10 April 2018 at 17:55, Jean-Pierre Ledure wrote: >> - Erased the hsqldb code entirely: >> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52611/ >> > Does this mean that once a .odb file containing an embedded HSQLDB database > is opened in LO 6.1 there is no way back ? That file

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-11 Thread Drew Jensen
Cool. Grabbed the 6.1alpha daily build just now and there it is as the default. Also grabbed a 6.04 and then the 5.whatever it is that comes out of the Ubuntu repo so I could create fresh hsql embed to open in 6.1. There are a bunch of older odb files on my computer which could feed some tests

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-11 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 17:55 +0200, Jean-Pierre Ledure wrote: > Does this mean that once a .odb file containing an embedded HSQLDB > database is opened in LO 6.1 there is no way back ? That file cannot > be accessed anymore by a LO <= 6.0 user ? Is this acceptable ? FWIW the embedded hsqldb we

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-11 Thread Sophia Schröder
P.S. We shouldn't also convert anything silently, especially not between file formats. The user should decide if s/he wants to convert. Am 11.04.2018 um 12:00 schrieb Sophia Schröder: Hi *, from a user perspective I disagree. We shouldn't force users to switch back, but instead we should

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-11 Thread Sophia Schröder
Hi *, from a user perspective I disagree. We shouldn't force users to switch back, but instead we should still support the old format but tell the users that this support is deprecated and will be removed with the one of the next releases of LO. S/he can now decide him/herself to switch

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-11 Thread Kaganski Mike
On 4/11/2018 12:34 PM, Jean-Pierre Ledure wrote: > That's why I insist on a mastered process: the user should decide how > and when he wants to migrate his Base files. To implement unconditional drop of support of old engine (and thus, requirement to convert of data to newer format to work with

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Ledure
Le 11/04/18 à 10:49, Kaganski Mike a écrit : On 4/11/2018 10:46 AM, Jean-Pierre Ledure wrote: When the database conversion is automatic without a fault back scenario, then the software has at least to *GUARANTEE* that there will be neither data loss nor functional loss afterwards. Well - the

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-11 Thread Kaganski Mike
Hi, On 4/11/2018 10:46 AM, Jean-Pierre Ledure wrote: > Le 10/04/18 à 22:36, Wols Lists a écrit : >> On 10/04/18 16:55, Jean-Pierre Ledure wrote: >>> Does this mean that once a .odb file containing an embedded HSQLDB >>> database is opened in LO 6.1 there is no way back ? That file cannot be >>>

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Ledure
Le 10/04/18 à 22:36, Wols Lists a écrit : On 10/04/18 16:55, Jean-Pierre Ledure wrote: Does this mean that once a .odb file containing an embedded HSQLDB database is opened in LO 6.1 there is no way back ? That file cannot be accessed anymore by a

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/04/18 16:55, Jean-Pierre Ledure wrote: > Does this mean that once a .odb file containing an embedded HSQLDB > database is opened in LO 6.1 there is no way back ? That file cannot be > accessed anymore by a LO <= 6.0 user ? Is this acceptable ? I believe this is normal for a lot of SQL

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Ledure
Hi, Le 10/04/18 à 12:30, Tamas Bunth a écrit : As part of this project I also: - removed the ability to create embedded HSQLDB documents from wizard. Now embedded Firebird is the default choice. Is Firebird the default or the only choice ? - Erased the hsqldb code entirely:

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/04/2018 à 12:30, Tamas Bunth a écrit : Hi Tamas, Read through your blog posts, sounds really promising, and I am interested in testing with various hsqldb ODB files that I have accrued over time through QAtriaging of Base problems. Is there any particular setup required to test, other