I feel obliged to register a complaint about these nice streams and the
work that went into them etc. :-)
Very minor: For people on "thin pipe" net connections, it'd be nifty if
there were lower-res (and lower-bandwidth) versions.
Now I feel dirty for complaining. :-)
-t
On 2016-03-19
I hope that readers of this list are making or are
willing to make an effort to grapple with the recent
IPPC Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5° (aka
IPCC SR-15).
Probably not a few readers - I would guess fewer in the U.S. -
are aware of the growing School Strike movement,
Remarkably, in order to make their allegations against Stallman, both
Selam G. and Edward Ongweso Jr. must speak untruthfully about what
Stallman wrote.
Selam G., for example, writes: "…and then [Stallman] says that an
enslaved child could, somehow, be "entirely willing"." Yet, what
Stallman
y of solid facts to
protest on!
-t
On 2019-09-15 13:20, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 1:38 PM Thomas Lord wrote:
>
>> Remarkably, in order to make their allegations against Stallman, both
>> Selam G. and Edward Ongweso Jr. must speak untruthf
I am not a woman but I have two suggestions about trying to make a less
man-dominated movement.
1. If your advocacy group has or is developing a capacity to help others
directly, look for local active women-led organizations in other areas
of activism where you are. Ask if there is anything
> If it is true that Stallman called these victims as willing []
He did not. In fact he said the opposite. The media campaign is
built on a bald face, easily disproved lie.
-t
On 2019-09-17 11:47, lily via libreplanet-discuss wrote:
Earlier in this thread, I sent
to this message.
-t
On 2019-09-17 16:36, Thomas Lord wrote:
This is a big crisis for the free software movement.
To briefly review the past few days and weeks:
--
We learned that MIT and in particular the Media Lab knowingly
.
3. Getting caught up in an ego/career game of projects
that compete for attention and never cooperate in assembling
a useful totality in service of human need.
So let's renew the GNU project, but for reals.
-t
(aka Thomas Lord)
__
Easy to hack. Easy to deploy and teach. Well
documented. etc. An alternative imaginary of the role of software in
society.
-t
On 2019-09-21 19:17, Thomas Lord wrote:
For the purpose of envelope calculations about the climate
emergency, the world is emitting the equivalent o
For the purpose of envelope calculations about the climate emergency,
the world is emitting the equivalent of about 40 billion metric tons of
CO₂ per year.
According to the 2018 U.N. IPCC Special Report on Global Warming of
1.5°C (aka IPCC SR15), the global carbon budget remaining
This, what Don wrote (copied below)!When I wrote earlier about
making practical, free systems and getting them deployed -- e.g. in
preparation for forseeable, huge changes in society due to the climate
emergency -- this very basic thing is what I think both the FSF and the
GNU
No, that is not what I'm hoping to see. Very few people will ever find
those links and fewer still have the knowledge to know how to use that
information.
Here is a scenario for thought experiment purposes:
I have a minor role in Berkeley politics. In this capacity, I
> Thank you for raising this. The recent (admittedly misreported) gaff
When people launch a press campaign to lie about you and defame you on
the basis of a libel, that is not your "gaff". No reasonable person
could have published any of the widely read attacks. They are
I certainly don't want to be an alarmist, and do believe that much of
the media attention is very overblown, but I think FSF, and
LibrePlanet
specifically, needs to address conference plans in light of the
current
virus situation.
It seems odd to think the media attention is "very
It seems to me that the root of the free software movement is not "the
four freedoms" - although they are critically important. Rather, the
free software movement originates in the observation that proprietary
software is a form of social domination.
First, in a proprietary
SXSW has been cancelled. MIT (I've read) has
banned employees from international air travel
and is discouraging domestic air travel.
-t
On 2020-03-06 13:59, Robert Read wrote:
I am also excited to participate. However, I just signed a petition
asking for SXSW to be canceled. I will
MIT has temporarily required that all campus events with 150 or more in
attendance be cancelled, postponed, or "virtualized".
If I were among the libreplanet organizers, I would be trying to
persuade my fellow organizers that they should not proceed as currently
planned.
le emergencies.
Happy Hacking, ;-)
-t
On 2020-03-08 18:40, Thomas Lord wrote:
MIT has temporarily required that all campus events with 150 or more in
attendance be cancelled, postponed, or "virtualized".
If I were among the libreplanet organizers, I would be trying to
persua
California has a state law that requires legislative bodies to meet in
public with people in attendance. The rules haven't been updated to
allow teleconferencing instead but the governor has exercised emergency
powers to suspend that rule. Cities and towns both need to keep in
I really admire Don's consistent effort here and wish more people would
get it. ABO -- always be organizing. Organizing towards real human
need.
In (in my opinion) similar spirit: I think it is a good bet that all
the familiar social networks will undergo some kind of unpredictable,
/individualistically, which makes no material
impact on any company, every tech worker should first consider talking
with and organizing with their fellow workers at their current
workplace.
On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 11:00 AM Thomas Lord <[1]l...@basiscraft.com>
wrote:
The copyright concern
The copyright concerns seem minor until they're systematically
exploited (if ever).
Meanwhile, the product is basically "We've gotten really good at
cranking our reams and reams of very low quality code to the point
no computer user expects anything better and NOW, at last, we can
automate part
f.
Do you mean to say that these people are all lying?
Also, more importantly, are you implying that Paul and Aaron and Deb
and every proposal for a path forward is all... bad?
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:11 AM Thomas Lord <[1]l...@basiscraft.com>
wrote:
Yes. Every &quo
t tell RMS what to do.
Using the power that the law provides to force negotiations on a
written contract was the only option.
That is just... Not normal. Right?"
From
[1]https://twitter.com/_msw_/status/1374538607982088197
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 10:40 AM Thomas Lord <
om himself and that's one reason not to support RMS.
You guys are making me support him more.
On March 26, 2021 5:51:57 PM UTC, Thomas Lord
wrote:
"It is union to try to protect people from RMS. / That's it. That's
the
reason."
As a matter of history that is simply and purely a l
"Things have been different with RMS. He has consistently stood out for
years with bad behavior."
Simply repeating that lie will not make it true.
Stop wasting everyone's time.
-t
On 2021-03-26 11:44, Florian Snow wrote:
Hi everyone,
I appreciate the calm, measured voices I've heard here.
It's wrong to describe people as "whistle blowers" when they
have not produced a complaint that stands up to scrutiny.
-t
On 2021-03-26 08:54, Aaron Wolf wrote:
I really appreciate seeing the perspective from Georgia. Thanks also
deeply to Deb Nicholson for engaging here in this space.
's compelling nonetheless and adds
to the view that while RMS contributed good things, he also caused harm
to people and to the FSF organization and the free software movement.
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 10:25 AM Thomas Lord <[1]l...@basiscraft.com>
wrote:
It's wrong to describe
"What we need to do, is have very robust standards of how people
behave, drawn up by and for the community,"
The only "problem" you seem to have a solution for is the one of a few
people making fairly ridiculous accusations and complaints. Your
solution is apparently to put them in charge
This has gotten beyond absurd. For years, this list has not been used
discuss developments, share projects, or even coordionate transportation
and lodging. It has been dominated by a few people making the same
accusations again and again, and having others push back. The
accusations have
We have seen in cases like social media, Internet advertising, and so
on the following examples of attacks on freedom (in no particular
order):
* CSS hacks that hide what is going on in a web page to fool users.
* Javascript hacks that are non-free code and that spy on users, but
supports RMS is in quite as defensive a state as you
currently appear to be.
If you want to ignore me, you can do so. Or if you want to understand
my
positions and engage respectfully, we can go in that direction.
On 2021-03-26 7:50 p.m., Thomas Lord wrote:
I think I have made it quite clear
*inclination* otherwise is to be skeptical of
the critics because I very much recognize RMS's good intentions and
fundamentally strong ethical foundations in his worldview. I still see
those things today, even though I don't deny the problem behaviors.
On 2021-03-26 5:16 p.m., Thomas Lord wrote:
This has
Good. Now let's spend a few months dissecting and discussing YOU TWO's
psychology, personality, and so forth, your alleged vices, how you are
tragic figures in our chin-stroking opinions, what authority systems we
can use to prevent you from causing problems, and so on. That's why
people
;[1]libreplanet-discuss-request@
libreplanet.org> wrote:
From: Thomas Lord <[2]l...@basiscraft.com>
Message-ID: <[3]6bc558831387fffe03f01cf7bfa71...@basiscraft.com>
Has anyone explored a new approach to multi-media hypertext -- one
not
tied to centralize
The EFF has also attacked Stallman in reaction to his return to the
board.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/03/statement-re-election-richard-stallman-fsf-board
-t
On 2021-03-25 15:13, Ali Reza Hayati wrote:
Thank you Adrienne.
Libreplanet people, while we can message board members, it
A couple of notes:
1. The voting members voted unanimously to have a qualified,
union-approved member on the board and as a voting member. The
president of the FSF has committed to resigning when this is in place,
to create a space for that member. I gather from the FSF
Autism awareness is great but armchair diagnoses are not.
Could we at least ask to rename this list "let's talk endlessly
about RMS' personality" to better reflect reality? :-P
-t
On 2021-04-05 06:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given that Friday was Autism Awareness Day, it might be worth noting
Greta Thunberg sailed both ways
across the Atlantic. There's no sane alternative.
-t
On 2021-04-03 19:54, Thomas Lord wrote:
Good programmers inevitably learn, somewhere along the way, the
following lesson:
When you encounter a very hard problem to solve, don't spend all
your
Good programmers inevitably learn, somewhere along the way, the
following lesson:
When you encounter a very hard problem to solve, don't spend all
your time just on the problem. Also question whether it really
needs to be solved - or if a better approach avoids the
not opposing any
organization. However, it's good to show those organizarions that
their actions will have consequences. But for now, let's focus on
showing our support for RMS and truth.
On March 25, 2021 10:55:52 PM UTC, Thomas Lord
wrote:
The EFF has also attacked Stallman in reaction to his return
You seem to be complaining that you can not work on
free software without closely associating with the FSF.
That seems nonsensical. What's stopping you?
-t
On 2021-04-15 09:13, Deb Nicholson wrote:
Hi,
As you know, I've spent many hours in FSF booths and many hours
running
FSF
Deb, when you say something like:
"Gregor could've saved us all a ton of time and just said that he
doesn't care if women, or really anyone who would rather not be
bullied, participates in free software."
It should be very obvious that many of us do not agree that that
is even in the
The original is lucid, beautiful, and on point.
English is pretty flexible.
-t
On 2021-04-13 22:45, mrf wrote:
I made terrible grammatical mistake the title should "be Who can
continue RMS work?"
and this mistake is spreaded in this paragraphs forgive me I'm not
english native.
The raising of voices in conversation does not have a context
independent or culturally universal emotional valence. For
some it is normal and expected. For some it borders on a
taboo.
Taking the complaint about RMS raising his voice at face
value: it borders on antisemitism. I
.
For example.
-t
On 2021-04-17 22:19, Thomas Lord wrote:
THIS IS NOT A LIST FOR SPECULATION ABOUT RMS' OR ANYONE
ELSE'S INTERIOR LIFE.
CONSIDER THAT THERE IS A REAL VIRTUE IN JUST SHUTTING UP
ON SOME TOPICS IN SOME CONTEXTS.
(Honestly, my current assumption is that the list is dominated
by a few trolls
THIS IS NOT A LIST FOR SPECULATION ABOUT RMS' OR ANYONE
ELSE'S INTERIOR LIFE.
CONSIDER THAT THERE IS A REAL VIRTUE IN JUST SHUTTING UP
ON SOME TOPICS IN SOME CONTEXTS.
(Honestly, my current assumption is that the list is dominated
by a few trolls now and ought to just go the way of all
> Jean, I mention the bare feet to suggest that my recollection of the
story is accurate, and the point about smell was to add specificity to
how close I was sitting. You assume too much.
Nonsense.
-t
On 2021-04-15 23:48, Danny Spitzberg wrote:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at
* Danny Spitzberg [2021-04-16 08:21]:
"(I was not close enough to smell his feet, however)"
Please get off this list. There is no place for such infintile
rudeness.
-t
On 2021-04-15 23:22, Jean Louis wrote:
* Danny Spitzberg [2021-04-16 08:21]:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:04 PM Jean
> "I would LOVE to be in a free software community where people are
more productive than ideological, more consensus-oriented than
close-minded and defensive. "
Is there something stopping you from going and building what you want
to see? Instead of spending time here tearing down
is ecologically insane and so forth -- that's another
relevant topic to talk about.
Stop with the trolling about RMS, and trolling is about what it has
boiled down to at this point.
-t
On 2021-04-16 14:04, Thomas Lord wrote:
* Danny Spitzberg [2021-04-16 08:21]:
"(I was not close enough to smell his
if we are to come out of this stronger instead of weaker. IMO, the best
direction is neither just stop discussion nor is it to just continue
indefinitely. Although a pause for a while might well be good, as might
taking things to other spaces.
On 2021-04-16 2:49 p.m., Thomas Lord wrote:
I may have
I think the FSF should have gone in this direction a long
time ago.
I think it is a very good idea to add to what you described:
a. Distributed decentralized business models that are NOT
"getting paid to program" or "getting paid to contribute
to a software development project".
b.
On 2022-03-15 17:12, Akira Urushibata wrote:
I have spoken on numerous occasions on free software philosophy placed
in the context of the development of software technology. []
I really loved reading this as someone who once had a
good job as a GNU project grunt working on tasks like
Complete with Chinese cuisine banquet.
On 2022-03-16 15:23, Yuchen Pei wrote:
On Thu 2022-03-03 21:21:27 +0200, Danny Spitzberg wrote:
Here's an idea: organize "StallmanCon"!
I can think of one scenario where something like a "stallmancon" would
make sense. It is not uncommon in academia
I second this (the message quoted below). It isn't clear
to me that anyone has even asked RMS what he would prefer here.
If he attends, my thought would be that perhaps he can
hold a break-out talk or birds of a feather or just
group chat if he feels like it. I assume (perhaps falsely)
that
Setting aside the legal restrictions imposed on speech by the
free software foundation, who would decide what the FSF view
of particular armed conflicts between nations should be?
Who would be alienated? Who would be in reactionary
opposition to the statement?
Similarly for a project.
the sender of
a message in replies.
Not everyone agrees that that is a courtesy and
wish to not be included in replies but an obnoxious
fake email address is not, in my opinion, the best
way to do it.
-t
On 2022-02-01 11:07, Thomas Lord wrote:
Jean, I also respectfully disagree with you when you
Respectfully, Richard, I disagree with your analysis:
There is a fundamental conceptual difference between
(1) a mode of usage you don't know how to invoke, and
(2) a mode of usage you are prohibited from utilizing.
Freedom 0 is meant to prevent (2). For instance, if the developer
claims
and in
any event can be arbitrarily obfuscated.
Additionally, some hardware requires a second transaction
of users before they can be fully used -- e.g. cases
where a user must provide personal information
to the vendor. Cell phones are a common example of this.
-t
On 2022-01-31 21:55, Jean Louis w
Wait, I think we are onto something useful today:
Jean writes:
> - Freedom 0: The freedom the use the hardware
> for any purpose
> Did anybody prevent you to use hardware for any purpose?
YES! Two examples:
In the music making world, it is distressingly common to sell
hardware
to using proprietary software.
Cell phones are very similar. You can not replace the
operating system on any popular model with free software.
-t
On 2022-01-31 13:17, Jean Louis wrote:
* Thomas Lord [2022-01-31 23:53]:
Wait, I think we are onto something useful today:
Jean write
Clicking on the "Register now!" link here:
https://libreplanet.org/2022/
gives a page with this error message:
"
Sorry, due to an error, we are unable to fulfill your request at the
moment. You may want to contact your administrator or service provider
with more details about what action
A few thoughts on Leah's definition of "free hardware":
+ The gist is clear
"Essentially, "free hardware" means that you can make
the hardware yourself."
What I think is envisioned here is a world in which hardware
manufacture is for many practical purposes driven by software:
If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon,
they should never be trusted to anything right again.
:-)
-t
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l function.
Here we have today a clear circumstance in which they can
prove me wrong.
-t
On 2022-04-26 10:50, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote:
Em 2022-04-26 14:37, Thomas Lord escreveu:
If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon,
they should never be trusted to anything right again
:-) speling is not my strength.
(Thanks)
-t
On 2022-04-26 11:10, Aaron Wolf wrote:
It's "mastodon" with two o's not two a's
On 2022-04-26 10:37, Thomas Lord wrote:
If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon,
they should never
My tone is harsh because of decades of the FSF doing less and less of
value in line with its mission.
My tone is harsh because FSF politics took precedent over the movement.
I wrote positive, not negative suggestions for what the FSF can do or
at least try to aim for.
I don't
, 2022 at 11:19 AM Thomas Lord <[2]l...@basiscraft.com>
wrote:
Why is this hard?
A lot of serious people are now looking for an exit from twitter.
The ones I see are asking about Mastadon.
The FSF front page is a bunch of dust stuff about libreplanet,
and they
diction with my text, for me the fsf's page is great. But
again, I am a tech-interested person and don't represent the larger
amount of internet users.
--- Original Message ---
On Thursday, May 12th, 2022 at 18:45, Thomas Lord - lord at
basiscraft.com wrote:
Jean,
> Thomas,
The nexus of the two topics is that the original proposal had
two elements: standing up the software systems described and
getting the word out on fsf.org. From my perspective, there has
been nothing off topic on this thread - just some clarification
of the intent / big picture.
-t
On
Contacting the FSF is a total crap shoot. In my experience,
if it isn't something immediately in their favor they are
a read only device.
That the FSF can't clearly state its actions and future
intentions via outreach to a general public outside
the movement, I think they need to re-read their
/22 01:23, Thomas Lord ha scritto:
Here, broadly, would be the technical infrastructure:
Set up instances dedicated to the "celebrities" in one field
of interest. It is good to make these redundant and distributed.
This already happens, indeed.
An example was newsbots
n't my understanding of it
so far)?
Similarly, say, a college student not in
computer science or anything close to that? or a
professor who may be tempted to require students
to use unfree software -- where can they quickly and
easily check for a better option?
-t
On 2022-05-11 20:44, Jean Louis w
On 2022-05-22 21:51, Jean Louis wrote:
There are other mailing lists for that type of expressions. Maybe you
should consider diversifying your interests.
I didn't ask for your advice and don't welcome it, thanks.
-t
On 2022-05-22 21:51, Jean Louis wrote:
* Thomas Lord [2022-05-19 18
stems becoming obsoleted by new paradigms are very normal
around the computer circle - can Democratic Software movement do the
same against the incumbent oligarchical systems?
-Yasu
On Apr 30, 2022, at 20:46, Jean Louis wrote:
* Thomas Lord [2022-04-29 17:49]:
This is an opportunity t
Is there some kind of hours-long technical glitch or am I now
being silently censored from the libreplanet-discuss mailing list?
-t
On 2022-05-01 15:23, Thomas Lord wrote:
You sparked what I think is a really good idea in my head.
Of course, I can't judge if it really is a really good idea
You can probably infer his position on free software
if you begin by searching for the complete source
code for Tesla cars.
-t
On 2022-04-27 17:25, Akira Urushibata wrote:
I have seen the discussion here started by our friend Thomas Lord
titled "thank you elon musk."
I decided to s
are pretty much irrelevant - just
the latest spending spree on another vanity project?
Twitter can just go to rot and there will be no tears shed - just good
riddance!
-Yasu
On Apr 29, 2022, at 04:13, Thomas Lord wrote:
You can probably infer his position on free software
if you begin
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