Re: [LIB] ct50/70 X config file

2002-02-08 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 08:09:02 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] ct50/70 X config file

>Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:23:24
>From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>Okay, for 7.1 there are four installation images,..
>>
>>4 image files, or 4 methods of installing images, or both?
>
>4 image files (1.4MB) each of which expects to find the installation files 
>in a different place.

Okay... the fog has finally lifted a bit.  I originally thought you were 
saying that four installation images were necessary in order to start to 
install Mandrake.  Now I think I'm understanding that there are 4 
installation image files, and depending on which method of installation you 
choose, you use the one installation image that is appropriate for that 
installation method.

>>Going backwards (not sure if "'pcmcia devices'" and "neworked" are
>>referring to the same process):
>>
>>4 and/or 3:I have a Xircom combo card with networking I've justgotten
>>running in Windows.  If there are drivers (and no doubt Card Service
>>drivers) that can get networking running in DOS, I could install from a 
>>desktop from an MS-DOS partition of that will work.
>
>Not sure I understand: I think that the network installation requires the 
>mandrake driectory to be visible over a linux network - i.e. from an 
>existing working installation on a desktop or server. But if you have 
>dosnetwork drivers, you could copy to a dos partition over the network and 
>then install.

Okay... let's skip this one. I sure don't have access to any Linux network.

Going back to where you wrote:

>>>..to expect the installation data on either CD, HD, another computer 
>>>(networked) and the last one is for 'pcmcia devices'.

I guess there was a distiction between when you said there are 4 image files 
"that will expect the installation data on either CD, HD, another computer 
(networked) and the last one is for 'pcmcia devices'", you were saying that 
'pcmcia devices' was the 4th installation method.  I was thinking that a net 
card was a pcmcia device, and was lumping them together as one method.

Not that it'll help me, but out of my innate curiousity (I accidently drop 
and broke my brother's skylight cover last year because I took it off 
wanting to see how it was all constructed ... I bought him a clear 
replacement for the broken white translucent original, and ended up 
brightening things up... accidents can be helpful sometimes... but obviously 
costly in this case)

where was I Sigmund??  Oh... I'm curious as to what a Mandrake 
installation via 'pcmcia devices' would be.  The net card and CD-ROMs are 
'pcmcia devices' aren't they?  Is there something I'm missing that 
differentiates 'pcmcia devices' from a CD-ROM and a net card?

>>>If you can't boot from the CD, you make a boot disk with one of >>>these 
>>>and let it get on with it.

OH... I was thinking you were talking about 4 different 650MB CD image 
files...  But you're saying there are 4 1.44MB installation files you can 
boot off of.  Lets see... can I blame my not getting this on dyslexia?

I understand installing this way via having the rest of the Mandrake files 
on the HDD, but the other 3 options mean getting drivers set up on the FD 
that will drive your CD-ROM drive, network card, or 'pcmcia devices', 
whatever that may be... and finding and setting up Linux files without a 
Linux based computer sounds daunting.

>>2: I guess from what you wrote about a L70 crashing trying to install from 
>>its HDD, this is out... unless I decide to keep my old L50 a while longer 
>>and use it for Linux (Just hate to part with my first Libby love!)
>
>Bingo!
>
>o Somehow, get the entire mandrake CD onto the drive.
>o Put the drive in the 50
>o Rawrite the HD image and boot from it 'text' mode
>o Complete the installation on the 50
>o Pull the drive and stuff into the 70.
>
>Sorted...

Heh... except for the last step... I was thinking of keeping the HDD in the 
L50, and keeping the L50 instead of putting it on EBay (how can I sell her?) 
as a dedicated Linux system.

>>But is there an advantage to this method over loading Mandrake right onto 
>>the Lib via a CD-ROM running from a (small if necessary) MS-DOS partition.
>
>Well, it's an hour quicker to install on my desktop (after I've made all 
>the selections) than on the lib :)

Okay... so the process is the same... it's just that if you have a desktop 
with an Athlon 800MHz like mine in storage in CA, or some 1 terabyte future 
screamer (anyone hear about Intel working on a TERABYTE CPU they're hoping 
to get out in a few years!!!)... the process is way faster than on a L50 
with a PI 75...  I can dig that.

>>Hmmm... yeah... I remember in installing Slackware, I had to boot from the 
>>rawrite FDD to set it up and install the files from the Windows partition. 
>>So I'm guessing Mandrake won't install from a HDD booted into MS-DOS.
>
>It will, but it needs to boot from a floppy that you make.

Was t

Re: [LIB] ct50/70 X config file

2002-02-08 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 06:58:15 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] ct50/70 X config file

Have gone through all the new messages, and am drawn back to these older 
ones:


>Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 09:45:39 +0100
>From: Christian Gennerat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Matthew Hanson a écrit :
>
> > Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 01:28:23 +
> > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [LIB] ct50/70 X config file
> >
> >
> > This site is talking about burning the ISO image to a CD that can ?
> > be made bootable.  I don't know about the newer Libs, but I'm > pretty 
>sure these L50s and L70s won't boot from a CD-ROM drive.
>
>They won't.  But they can boot with a floppy (prepared with rawrite >and an 
>image on the CD)  And then you can install from a PCMCIA CD (for instance 
>Freecom) or a PCMCIA SCSI card  and a SCSI CD or  a PCMCIA network card 
>connected to the desktop reading the CD (or the equivalent ISO file)

My ADD DDA DAD or something is kicking in here.  If I boot from a floppy 
with rawrite, how am I going to then install from a CD with the image, if 
I''ve got the FDD plugged in?

I was thinking I could (though Neil's and others suggestion of putting the 
HDD in a desktop and booting it sounds like the best bet) copy the Linux 
boot disk over the Lib's HDD, copy CD-ROM drivers to the HDD, remove the 
FDD, and boot from the HDD with CD-ROM support.

But wouldn't I have to format a partition on the Libs HDD for Linux in order 
to copy the Linux boot files and rawrite over to it?  And wouldn't getting 
Linux drivers to operate the CD-ROM drive be a real task?

Or am I just getting way off from what you were suggesting?

Matt... back in the Linux mode again.



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[LIB] Card and Socket Services for the L50

2002-02-08 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 08:47:25 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Card and Socket Services for the L50

Hi all!

A quick flip through the digest indicates that this topic has been discussed for the 
L100/110 but I can't find any reference to where I might find Card and Socket Services 
software suitable for the L50/70. I'm trying to create a boot disk that can access the 
network ... I've got DOS drivers for the PCMCIA network card (a Bromax iPort 10/100) 
but I'm missing the CSS stuff ...

Any help would be appreciated!


- Raymond

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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:45:59 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

Well this was like a year ago.. Like I said I don’t knw what the deal
was. Was strange to me.. Then sent it to avert and never heard from them


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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 6:45 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 08:39:41 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

At 11:49 AM 8/02/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:44:21 -0600
>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
>Yea I don’t know.. Just know when I opened this jpg file. I found the 6

>files I just deleted.. Anyway don’t know.. Maybe it was a hidden ext. 
>but I made sure that show known ext was turned on.. I have also read 
>that there was the ability to embed a script file.. Sad thing is I was 
>unable to detect the troj with any scanner.. But was walked through 
>getting rid of the thing anyway ill have to see if I can find that 
>article..

Perhaps the viewing program was infected? Or there was a buffer overflow
being exploited in the viewing program or the OS? Or is he running any
sorta script that may have a backdoor (eg. Polaris)? Perhaps his copy of
IRC client isn't clean?

Many possibilities!


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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 08:39:41 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

At 11:49 AM 8/02/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:44:21 -0600
>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
>Yea I don’t know.. Just know when I opened this jpg file. I found the 6
>files I just deleted.. Anyway don’t know.. Maybe it was a hidden ext.
>but I made sure that show known ext was turned on.. I have also read
>that there was the ability to embed a script file.. Sad thing is I was
>unable to detect the troj with any scanner.. But was walked through
>getting rid of the thing anyway ill have to see if I can find that
>article.. 

Perhaps the viewing program was infected? Or there was a buffer overflow being 
exploited in the viewing program or the OS? Or is he running any sorta script that may 
have a backdoor (eg. Polaris)? Perhaps his copy of IRC client isn't clean?

Many possibilities!


- Raymond

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Really hidden file extensions - was Re: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Miller

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 17:14:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Really hidden file extensions - was Re: [LIB] List problem?

> Most email viruses that disguise itself as JPG is just exploiting one
> Windows Explore feature: hiding file extensions of known file types. So a
> virus named vir.jpg.exe or something similar will show up in your email as
> vir.jpg instead. If you look carefully, the icon is different. Always
> uncheck the above option in Explorer's Folder Option menu and you will never
> be fooled again.

Never say "never".  ;-)

Windows apparently has some REALLY hidden extensions.  See eg 
http://www.cert.org/incident_notes/IN-2000-07.html  which says, in part:

  Windows operating systems contain an option to "Hide file extensions
  for known file types"... After disabling this option, there are still
  some file extensions that, by default, will continue to remain hidden
  from the user... One such extension, ".SHS", is associated with Shell
  Scrap Object files...and can include executable contents.

and  http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/vbs.stages.a.html
which describes an mIRC-based worm that exploits the above.

Mike




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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:14:13 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

I agree.. But it might have been something else. I don’t know was just
one of those hmm kinda deals.. I sent it to avert but they never replied

-Original Message-
From: neil barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:05 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 21:01:00
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


>Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:03:10 -0600
>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
>Again JPG is not just an ext. its also a compression.. Uuencoding 
>basicly just the editors and viewers allow you to decode the 
>uuencoder..

Sounds like it might be an exe (or group of exes) disguised as a jpg and
the 
uuencoded...I cannot believe that people still write software that
executes 
attachments :(



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[LIB] Wanted

2002-02-08 Thread Dion Forster

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:05:30 +0200
From: "Dion Forster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wanted

Greetings,

I am looking for a second-hand Libretto in South Africa (preferably to
purchase from someone in the Cape Town area).  Anyone interested?  Give
me a shout.

Dion Forster
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083 456 4855




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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 21:01:00
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


>Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:03:10 -0600
>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
>Again JPG is not just an ext. its also a compression.. Uuencoding
>basicly just the editors and viewers allow you to decode the uuencoder..

Sounds like it might be an exe (or group of exes) disguised as a jpg and the 
uuencoded...I cannot believe that people still write software that executes 
attachments :(



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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:10:40 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

Ok my bad.. I havent been able to find the article.. Thought it was in
my favs but it isnt and everything I read says that it cant be done.. I
swore thought that it could.. Anyway sorry for the alarm

-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:35 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?


Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:31:03 -0500
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?


- Original Message -
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:57:50 -0600
> From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
> The jpg is a compression from not just an ext. when you execute the 
> JPG it decompresses..

Yes, jpeg is an image compression method and .jpg is the extension
commonly given to the jpeg compressed files. The decompress of the jpeg
file only happens with the help of JPeg capable programs like browser
and photo editing software. You do not execute the jpeg file because you
can't. However, it is possible for someone to rename an executable file
into something like vir.jpg or vir.bmp. And in normal cause, this will
not cause any problem in Windows as Windows will check file extension
and load the photo editing software to load the file and display some
error message since it is not a jpeg file. However, in the native
Windows API calls, you can let Windows execute any file regardless the
file extension as long as the format of the file is that of the windows
executable file (or called PE format). This can only be done through 3rd
party software, however. Maybe your IRC software have this feature to
execute those files if instructed.





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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:44:21 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

Yea I don’t know.. Just know when I opened this jpg file. I found the 6
files I just deleted.. Anyway don’t know.. Maybe it was a hidden ext.
but I made sure that show known ext was turned on.. I have also read
that there was the ability to embed a script file.. Sad thing is I was
unable to detect the troj with any scanner.. But was walked through
getting rid of the thing anyway ill have to see if I can find that
article.. 

-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:35 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?


Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:31:03 -0500
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?


- Original Message -
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:57:50 -0600
> From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
> The jpg is a compression from not just an ext. when you execute the 
> JPG it decompresses..

Yes, jpeg is an image compression method and .jpg is the extension
commonly given to the jpeg compressed files. The decompress of the jpeg
file only happens with the help of JPeg capable programs like browser
and photo editing software. You do not execute the jpeg file because you
can't. However, it is possible for someone to rename an executable file
into something like vir.jpg or vir.bmp. And in normal cause, this will
not cause any problem in Windows as Windows will check file extension
and load the photo editing software to load the file and display some
error message since it is not a jpeg file. However, in the native
Windows API calls, you can let Windows execute any file regardless the
file extension as long as the format of the file is that of the windows
executable file (or called PE format). This can only be done through 3rd
party software, however. Maybe your IRC software have this feature to
execute those files if instructed.





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Re: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:31:03 -0500
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?


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To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:57:50 -0600
> From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
> The jpg is a compression from not just an ext. when you execute the JPG
> it decompresses..

Yes, jpeg is an image compression method and .jpg is the extension commonly
given to the jpeg compressed files. The decompress of the jpeg file only
happens with the help of JPeg capable programs like browser and photo
editing software. You do not execute the jpeg file because you can't.
However, it is possible for someone to rename an executable file into
something like vir.jpg or vir.bmp. And in normal cause, this will not cause
any problem in Windows as Windows will check file extension and load the
photo editing software to load the file and display some error message since
it is not a jpeg file. However, in the native Windows API calls, you can let
Windows execute any file regardless the file extension as long as the format
of the file is that of the windows executable file (or called PE format).
This can only be done through 3rd party software, however. Maybe your IRC
software have this feature to execute those files if instructed.





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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:03:10 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

Again JPG is not just an ext. its also a compression.. Uuencoding
basicly just the editors and viewers allow you to decode the uuencoder..
Well I do not know how it happens.. But I have seen it. I made sure I
was looking at ext's I turn them on when I am trying to find a little
thing like a virus. Plus I do not like how windows hides known ext. it
just plain bugs(pun intended) me.. I will try to find more info on
this.. 

-Original Message-
From: neil barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:21 AM
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:15:15
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


>Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:22:05 -0600
>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
>Nope but yes a pic can contain executable code packaged in the jpg 
>itself.. Its how irc virus's are trasnmitted.. Anyway no virus on my 
>end.. I didn’t open the att file.. What the heck what will it hurt? 
>Haha I have a 20 gig hard drive waiting to go in this thinkpad haha
>

Can you explain further please? AFAIK there's nowhere in a jpg file 
structure to carry executables, or even any quantity of extra data. This
is 
not to say of course that just because it *says* it's a jpg that it
really 
is, or that the data enclosed is really a picture...but it won't execute

itself, it will just fail to be opened by the graphics software.

I also thought that most IRC viruses were script viruses? Maybe I'm
behind 
the times :)

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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:59:32 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

Yes I have seen that.. The only attachment was the attachment file
saying there was nothing because it was too big.. But anyway I didn’t
open it until I knew the 2k emails wasn’t virii releated haha 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:10 AM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?


Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:05:51
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?


>Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 02:12:59 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?
>
>>Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:23:47 -0600
>>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: List problem?
>>
>>I woke up and seen 2k emails.. And I also got a virii =( well what 
>>looks like a virii at least suspious an email from 
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject linke of (lib) emailing: 
>>lonely.jpg..
>
>Oh man... I saw that post to my Hotmail emailbox and was suspicious of 
>it. But no such lonely.jpg came was attached at my end.
>
>But a file with a .jpg extension wouldn't execute on a PC, and graphics

>files, last I knew, are read only, and can't carry a virus.  Hmmm... 
>wonder if there was more to that email than met the eye.
>
>Did you identify the name of the virus Phillip?
>
>Matt

I didn't notice that one as I erase on reflex...but have you noticed the

occasional files which have names like:

lonely.jpg.exe

carefully constructed so that the .exe doesn't fit in the usual spaces
left 
for attachment names? Nice piece social engineering, disguising an 
executable that way

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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:57:50 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

The jpg is a compression from not just an ext. when you execute the JPG
it decompresses.. Do not know sense I do not hack but know that it is
the only way friend could have gotten a troj since the only thing he
used one of his computers was for irc. Mind you he asked me to make sure
people cant send anything but pics.. Yes he was a little bit of a perv.
So I blocked everything cept *.bmp, *.gif, *.jpg, *.TIF everything else
was blocked and no prompt. Someone told him he had a torj. So I did a
little looking.. Looked at his log files.. Only seen jpg and a couple
bmp's and well found the virii cleared it out. Then opened each file
until I found the offending one. Again don’t know how it worked and it
was a .jpg not a .jpg.src file

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:05 AM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?


Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 08:57:49 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?

>Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 21:22:37 -0500
>From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >
> > But a file with a .jpg extension wouldn't execute on a PC, and 
> > graphics
>files, last I knew, are read only, and can't carry a virus.  Hmmm... 
>wonder
>if there was more to that email than met the eye.
>
>Don't forget that Windows, in its infinite wisdom, ships defaulted to 
>>HIDE
>the extension of a registered program. Why, oh why?

Don'tcha just love those brainy guys out at Redmond? ;-P

>
>So, an attachment like me_nude.jpg.scr would only be "seen" by the 
>unsuspecting victim as me_nude.jpg
>
>Guess what happens when you launch a .scr file even though you don't
see the .scr extension?
>
>A windows script launches

Aaaahhh... tricky.  BUT!  That's not in truth a real JPG file, only one
with 
a tricky extension.

Phillip says that virus code can be written into a JPG file. For the
life of 
me I can't figure out how it would spread any virus. It'd need a
separate 
execuatable file to activate the virus code in the JGP, wouldn't it?
And 
the're nothing to my knowledge (admittedly limited knowledge) that tries
to 
execuate any kind of code in graphics files.

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Re: [LIB] Installing Linux beyond cylinder 1024

2002-02-08 Thread Clarence

Date: Fri,  8 Feb 2002 13:50:25 -0500
From: "Clarence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Installing Linux beyond cylinder 1024

>> > Anyone got any ideas as to how to get Linux to see and install 
onto
>> > partition 3 and not clobber the rest of my partitions?
>>
>>Does anyone know for sure if LILO (that's the part of Linux that 
actually
>>loads the kernel when you start up) will use EZBios?
>>
>>The "standard" wisdom is that, for LILO to find the kernel, the 
kernel
>>must be located within the first 1024 cylinders


Newer versions of lilo (in the past 6 months or so) support the 
presence of kernels beyond the 1024th. if your distribution gripes 
about it, D/L the newest lilo and install it.

Single floppy distros are great for that sort of thing. 


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Re: [LIB] Installing Linux beyond cylinder 1024

2002-02-08 Thread David Chien

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:50:05 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [LIB] Installing Linux beyond cylinder 1024

More interesting things: 

See http://home.wanadoo.nl/geurt/faq.html
XOSL HOWTOs and FAQs v1.00

Interesting points on LILO & 1024 cylinder limit (8.4GB).

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Re: [LIB] Installing Linux beyond cylinder 1024

2002-02-08 Thread David Chien

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:31:06 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [LIB] Installing Linux beyond cylinder 1024

You may have to install the basic boot files for Linux under the 8.4GB bios
limit, enough files so that by the time the Linux files are loaded and can see
the entire HD by itself, bypassing the BIOS routines, you don't have to worry
about anything.

Believe the 2.0.34, 2.1.90 and higher versions of Linux support large HDs
directly, but you've got additional problems present that were only fixed with
the 2.3.21+ versions of Linux.  (geometry translation problems such as that
created by EZ-Drive with older BIOSs & Linux)

See nice Linux Large HD faq:
http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/Large-Disk.html



Looks like you'll either have to move onto a newer Linux that has a 2.3.21+
kernel and/or create a small Linux /boot partition <8.4GB to let it load
Linux's own large HD drivers.

I don't know, haven't bothered sticking Linux on my L110 yet, and I've got my
empty partition waiting below the 8.4GB limit on my Libretto.

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Re: [LIB] Replacement screen for 110

2002-02-08 Thread David Chien

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:14:40 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [LIB] Replacement screen for 110

> I need a replacement screen for my Libretto 110.any ideas?
  1) used, broken L100 or L110 with good screen (www.ebay.com)
  2) used L110 in good condition (www.ebay.com)
  3) expensive $500+ repalcement screen new (www.micsol.com)

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Re: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:39:57 -0500
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?

Most email viruses that disguise itself as JPG is just exploiting one
Windows Explore feature: hiding file extensions of known file types. So a
virus named vir.jpg.exe or something similar will show up in your email as
vir.jpg instead. If you look carefully, the icon is different. Always
uncheck the above option in Explorer's Folder Option menu and you will never
be fooled again.

You can embed any binary code into a image file but it will never get
executed unless you also have some special software designed to extract them
and execute them.

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To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:14:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: Christian Kuiphoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
> You could put any code you wanted in the "Makernote" section of
> the EXIF section.  However, there isn't any current way of
> executing that directly.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chris
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>
> --- neil barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:15:15
> > From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
> >
> >
> > >Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:22:05 -0600
> > >From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
> > >
> > >Nope but yes a pic can contain executable code packaged in the
> > jpg
> > >itself.. Its how irc virus's are trasnmitted.. Anyway no virus
> > on my
> > >end.. I didn't open the att file.. What the heck what will it
> > hurt? Haha
> > >I have a 20 gig hard drive waiting to go in this thinkpad haha
> > >
> >
> > Can you explain further please? AFAIK there's nowhere in a jpg
> > file
> > structure to carry executables, or even any quantity of extra
> > data. This is
> > not to say of course that just because it *says* it's a jpg
> > that it really
> > is, or that the data enclosed is really a picture...but it
> > won't execute
> > itself, it will just fail to be opened by the graphics
> > software.
> >
> > I also thought that most IRC viruses were script viruses? Maybe
> > I'm behind
> > the times :)
>
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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread Christian Kuiphoff

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:14:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Kuiphoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

You could put any code you wanted in the "Makernote" section of
the EXIF section.  However, there isn't any current way of
executing that directly.


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> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:15:15
> From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
> 
> 
> >Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:22:05 -0600
> >From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
> >
> >Nope but yes a pic can contain executable code packaged in the
> jpg
> >itself.. Its how irc virus's are trasnmitted.. Anyway no virus
> on my
> >end.. I didn’t open the att file.. What the heck what will it
> hurt? Haha
> >I have a 20 gig hard drive waiting to go in this thinkpad haha
> >
> 
> Can you explain further please? AFAIK there's nowhere in a jpg
> file 
> structure to carry executables, or even any quantity of extra
> data. This is 
> not to say of course that just because it *says* it's a jpg
> that it really 
> is, or that the data enclosed is really a picture...but it
> won't execute 
> itself, it will just fail to be opened by the graphics
> software.
> 
> I also thought that most IRC viruses were script viruses? Maybe
> I'm behind 
> the times :)


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[LIB] MY EMAIL ADDRESS is changing

2002-02-08 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:16:18 -0500
From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MY EMAIL ADDRESS is changing

If anyone wants to write to me directly, change my email address now in your
address books. After thi weekend anything going to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
going in the crapper directly. I can't take the SPAM.

Simply ADD a "w" just before the "@" and after my name. Thank you

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Re: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:14:27 -0500
From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?

> >
> >So, an attachment like me_nude.jpg.scr would only be "seen" by the
> >unsuspecting victim as me_nude.jpg
> >
> >Guess what happens when you launch a .scr file even though you don't
> see the .scr extension?
> >
> >A windows script launches
>
> Aaaahhh... tricky.  BUT!  That's not in truth a real JPG file, only one
with
> a tricky extension.


That's exactly what I said.  A regular .jpg with a tricky extension is NOT
REALLY anything but the trick...

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Re: [LIB] WinXP/2000

2002-02-08 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:12:35 -0500
From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] WinXP/2000

>
> Now Microsoft has created a Hot Fix which introduced standard behaviour
for
> IR within Win2000, it will be in cluded in the coming SP3.


This simply speaks volumes!

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RE: [LIB] Replacement screen for 110

2002-02-08 Thread David Moor

Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:33:47 -
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If you are in the UK try this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2001118208

Dave Moor

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Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 08:12:43 -0500
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Howdy all...

I need a replacement screen for my Libretto 110.any ideas?

Thanx

Marc Jaffe




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[LIB] Replacement screen for 110

2002-02-08 Thread Marc Jaffe

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 08:12:43 -0500
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Howdy all...

I need a replacement screen for my Libretto 110.any ideas?

Thanx

Marc Jaffe




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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 18:57:07 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?

At 02:21 AM 8/02/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:15:15
>From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
>
>>Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:22:05 -0600
>>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>>
>>Nope but yes a pic can contain executable code packaged in the jpg
>>itself.. Its how irc virus's are trasnmitted.. Anyway no virus on my
>>end.. I didn’t open the att file.. What the heck what will it hurt? Haha
>>I have a 20 gig hard drive waiting to go in this thinkpad haha
>
>Can you explain further please? AFAIK there's nowhere in a jpg file structure to 
>carry executables, or even any quantity of extra data. This is not to say of course 
>that just because it *says* it's a jpg that it really is, or that the data enclosed 
>is really a picture...but it won't execute itself, it will just fail to be opened by 
>the graphics software.

The only thing I CAN think of is perhaps the jpeg file having a carefully crafted 
string somewhere that causes a buffer overflow in the viewing program but that'd have 
to assume it was being viewed with a specific decoder, compiled a certain way. 
Certainly a long shot given the wide variety of viewing programs and jpeg decoding 
libraries available ... certainly embedding pure executable code wouldn't help because 
the viewing program would just ignore it.


>I also thought that most IRC viruses were script viruses? Maybe I'm behind the times 
>:)

Some are .dll files as well (because remember, many IRC clients can now link DLL's).


- Raymond

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RE: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:15:15
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?


>Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:22:05 -0600
>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [LIB] List problem?
>
>Nope but yes a pic can contain executable code packaged in the jpg
>itself.. Its how irc virus's are trasnmitted.. Anyway no virus on my
>end.. I didn’t open the att file.. What the heck what will it hurt? Haha
>I have a 20 gig hard drive waiting to go in this thinkpad haha
>

Can you explain further please? AFAIK there's nowhere in a jpg file 
structure to carry executables, or even any quantity of extra data. This is 
not to say of course that just because it *says* it's a jpg that it really 
is, or that the data enclosed is really a picture...but it won't execute 
itself, it will just fail to be opened by the graphics software.

I also thought that most IRC viruses were script viruses? Maybe I'm behind 
the times :)

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Re: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 18:06:42 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?

At 06:31 PM 7/02/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 21:22:37 -0500
>From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>
>> But a file with a .jpg extension wouldn't execute on a PC, and graphics
>> files, last I knew, are read only, and can't carry a virus.  Hmmm...
>wonder
>> if there was more to that email than met the eye.
>
>Don't forget that Windows, in its infinite wisdom, ships defaulted to HIDE
>the extension of a registered program. Why, oh why?
>
>So, an attachment like me_nude.jpg.scr would only be "seen" by the
>unsuspecting victim as me_nude.jpg
>
>Guess what happens when you launch a .scr file even though you don't see the
>..scr extension?
>
>A windows script launches

Umm ... .scr is just a renamed .exe so it'd be a Windows executable. If it was .vbs 
then it'd be a script ...

In this case it IS a .jpg though because the listbot caught it and not your browser. 
And to the best of my knowledge it is NOT possible to infect a computer through a .jpg 
file (I DID investigate this possibility when someone else brought it up about a year 
ago ... there isn't anything in the format that'll allow code to execute).


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Re: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:05:51
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?


>Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 02:12:59 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?
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>>Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:23:47 -0600
>>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: List problem?
>>
>>I woke up and seen 2k emails.. And I also got a virii =( well what looks
>>like a virii at least suspious an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>with the subject linke of (lib) emailing: lonely.jpg..
>
>Oh man... I saw that post to my Hotmail emailbox and was suspicious of it.
>But no such lonely.jpg came was attached at my end.
>
>But a file with a .jpg extension wouldn't execute on a PC, and graphics
>files, last I knew, are read only, and can't carry a virus.  Hmmm... wonder
>if there was more to that email than met the eye.
>
>Did you identify the name of the virus Phillip?
>
>Matt

I didn't notice that one as I erase on reflex...but have you noticed the 
occasional files which have names like:

lonely.jpg.exe

carefully constructed so that the .exe doesn't fit in the usual spaces left 
for attachment names? Nice piece social engineering, disguising an 
executable that way

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Re: [LIB] Installing Linux beyond cylinder 1024

2002-02-08 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:13:35 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Installing Linux beyond cylinder 1024

>Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:21:50 -0500 (EST)
>From: Michael Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Installing Linux beyond cylinder 1024
>
> > My 20 gig hard drive in my Libretto 50CT is partitioned as follows using 
>PartitionMagic Pro 6.0:
> > 1: Primary partition, FAT16, 2GB in size.
> > 2: Extended partition, 12GB in size.
> >  i: Logical drive, NTFS, 2GB in size.
> > ii: Logical drive, FAT, 2GB in size.
> >iii: Logical drive, FAT, 1.8GB in size.
> >  *: Unallocated (hibernation area)
> > iv: Logical drive, FAT32, 5.9GB in size.
> > 3: Primary partition, Linux Ext2, 4.9GB in size.
> > 4: Primary partition, Linux swap, 94MB in size.
> >
> > Anyone got any ideas as to how to get Linux to see and install onto
> > partition 3 and not clobber the rest of my partitions?
>
>Does anyone know for sure if LILO (that's the part of Linux that actually
>loads the kernel when you start up) will use EZBios?
>
>The "standard" wisdom is that, for LILO to find the kernel, the kernel
>must be located within the first 1024 cylinders (I don't know if GRUB has
>the same restriction.)  I believe this to be true even when the bios can
>recognize big disks - if so, then I can't see how EZBios would help.
>
>The "standard" advice is to create a small partition entirely within that 
>initial 1024 cylinders, and mount /boot on that partition.  (All the rest 
>of Linux can then live in your extended partition.)
>
>Mike


Take a look at this post from Dean WORTHINGTON.  I don't understand a lot 
when it comes to Linux, but let me know if his mention of dealing with Lilo, 
Loadlin and the 1024 cylinder (bottom of page) makes any sense to you, or 
helps.

http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/2000/msg00370.html

Matt



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Re: [LIB] List problem?

2002-02-08 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 08:57:49 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem?

>Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 21:22:37 -0500
>From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >
> > But a file with a .jpg extension wouldn't execute on a PC, and graphics 
>files, last I knew, are read only, and can't carry a virus.  Hmmm... wonder 
>if there was more to that email than met the eye.
>
>Don't forget that Windows, in its infinite wisdom, ships defaulted to >HIDE 
>the extension of a registered program. Why, oh why?

Don'tcha just love those brainy guys out at Redmond? ;-P

>
>So, an attachment like me_nude.jpg.scr would only be "seen" by the
>unsuspecting victim as me_nude.jpg
>
>Guess what happens when you launch a .scr file even though you don't
see the .scr extension?
>
>A windows script launches

Aaaahhh... tricky.  BUT!  That's not in truth a real JPG file, only one with 
a tricky extension.

Phillip says that virus code can be written into a JPG file. For the life of 
me I can't figure out how it would spread any virus. It'd need a separate 
execuatable file to activate the virus code in the JGP, wouldn't it?  And 
the're nothing to my knowledge (admittedly limited knowledge) that tries to 
execuate any kind of code in graphics files.

Matt



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