Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 08:09:02 +0000 From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] ct50/70 X config file
>Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:23:24 >From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>>Okay, for 7.1 there are four installation images,.. >> >>4 image files, or 4 methods of installing images, or both? > >4 image files (1.4MB) each of which expects to find the installation files >in a different place. Okay... the fog has finally lifted a bit. I originally thought you were saying that four installation images were necessary in order to start to install Mandrake. Now I think I'm understanding that there are 4 installation image files, and depending on which method of installation you choose, you use the one installation image that is appropriate for that installation method. >>Going backwards (not sure if "'pcmcia devices'" and "neworked" are >>referring to the same process): >> >>4 and/or 3:I have a Xircom combo card with networking I've justgotten >>running in Windows. If there are drivers (and no doubt Card Service >>drivers) that can get networking running in DOS, I could install from a >>desktop from an MS-DOS partition of that will work. > >Not sure I understand: I think that the network installation requires the >mandrake driectory to be visible over a linux network - i.e. from an >existing working installation on a desktop or server. But if you have >dosnetwork drivers, you could copy to a dos partition over the network and >then install. Okay... let's skip this one. I sure don't have access to any Linux network. Going back to where you wrote: >>>..to expect the installation data on either CD, HD, another computer >>>(networked) and the last one is for 'pcmcia devices'. I guess there was a distiction between when you said there are 4 image files "that will expect the installation data on either CD, HD, another computer (networked) and the last one is for 'pcmcia devices'", you were saying that 'pcmcia devices' was the 4th installation method. I was thinking that a net card was a pcmcia device, and was lumping them together as one method. Not that it'll help me, but out of my innate curiousity (I accidently drop and broke my brother's skylight cover last year because I took it off wanting to see how it was all constructed ... I bought him a clear replacement for the broken white translucent original, and ended up brightening things up... accidents can be helpful sometimes... but obviously costly in this case) ....where was I Sigmund??.... Oh... I'm curious as to what a Mandrake installation via 'pcmcia devices' would be. The net card and CD-ROMs are 'pcmcia devices' aren't they? Is there something I'm missing that differentiates 'pcmcia devices' from a CD-ROM and a net card? >>>If you can't boot from the CD, you make a boot disk with one of >>>these >>>and let it get on with it. OH... I was thinking you were talking about 4 different 650MB CD image files... But you're saying there are 4 1.44MB installation files you can boot off of. Lets see... can I blame my not getting this on dyslexia? I understand installing this way via having the rest of the Mandrake files on the HDD, but the other 3 options mean getting drivers set up on the FD that will drive your CD-ROM drive, network card, or 'pcmcia devices', whatever that may be... and finding and setting up Linux files without a Linux based computer sounds daunting. >>2: I guess from what you wrote about a L70 crashing trying to install from >>its HDD, this is out... unless I decide to keep my old L50 a while longer >>and use it for Linux (Just hate to part with my first Libby love!) > >Bingo! > >o Somehow, get the entire mandrake CD onto the drive. >o Put the drive in the 50 >o Rawrite the HD image and boot from it 'text' mode >o Complete the installation on the 50 >o Pull the drive and stuff into the 70. > >Sorted... Heh... except for the last step... I was thinking of keeping the HDD in the L50, and keeping the L50 instead of putting it on EBay (how can I sell her?) as a dedicated Linux system. >>But is there an advantage to this method over loading Mandrake right onto >>the Lib via a CD-ROM running from a (small if necessary) MS-DOS partition. > >Well, it's an hour quicker to install on my desktop (after I've made all >the selections) than on the lib :) Okay... so the process is the same... it's just that if you have a desktop with an Athlon 800MHz like mine in storage in CA, or some 1 terabyte future screamer (anyone hear about Intel working on a TERABYTE CPU they're hoping to get out in a few years!!!)... the process is way faster than on a L50 with a PI 75... I can dig that. >>Hmmm... yeah... I remember in installing Slackware, I had to boot from the >>rawrite FDD to set it up and install the files from the Windows partition. >>So I'm guessing Mandrake won't install from a HDD booted into MS-DOS. > >It will, but it needs to boot from a floppy that you make. Was that floppy I made for the Slackware installation with rawrite on it an MS-DOS formatted disk? I can't remember. I guess so I don't think I ran any utility that created a Linux formatted FD, like I can do with Windows software that formats and reads Mac floppies. >If there was more memory, you could use loadlin, but if you run the batch >files directly, I never found a way of getting the text option, and without >that, you'll get a memory error. I have *no* idea why it should take 32M to >copy files, even with pretty pictures. Maybe that was Bill Gates' contribution to the Linux project ;-P >It won't do the PCMCIA by default on a desktop, iirc it will if you install >on the laptop because it finds the enabler chipset. But even if it does, >Redhat, and by extension Mandrake, have a brain dead package which installs >a config file consisting of 'pcmcia=off' which you need to change before it >will run. Once it's up, it's wonderful. Okay... I'M brain dead here. I can't imagine what a PCMCIA installation process would be. Hey... these are the tracks I made just a while ago! I must be going in circles.... >>Re-thinking what I wrote above about loading from CD-ROM or a Network card >>(I'm not sure if your "'pcmcia devices'" was a 4th option, or what makes >>it different from using a network card)... It seems if I tried to > >I don't think that a network card is accessed in the same way if it's an >ISA or PCI card, as it is if it's in a pcmcia. I'd guess 'pcmcia devices' >is for CDROM - but you need the slot for the boot disk, unless...it may >work if you have the expander and the second slot. Hmmmm.... back to my question about whether this 'pcmcia devices' installation method isn't the same as CD-ROM or network card installation. They're both PCMCIA devices. I can see grass under the path I'm wearing in the snow here. Amen... end of communication... off to chase the Sandman... Ciao, M. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ************************************************************** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ -------TO UNSUBSCRIBE------- Reply to any of the list messages. 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