RE: [LIB] Libretto 100/110CT with 96Mb possible!!!

2009-04-22 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:02:23 +0100
From: Chris Hogan ch...@hogan.net
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 100/110CT with 96Mb possible!!!

Bloody hell Avi! Nice work!

Not sure my soldering skills are up to this but just to be clear, in that
third picture you've just shorted R2 on the memory module, right?

Chris



-Original Message-
From: Avi Cohen Stuart [mailto:avi.cohenstu...@infor.com] 
Sent: 21 April 2009 22:24
To: Libretto
Subject: [LIB] Libretto 100/110CT with 96Mb possible!!!

Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 23:04:44 +0200
From: Avi Cohen Stuart avi.cohenstu...@infor.com
Subject: Libretto 100/110CT with 96Mb possible!!!

Hi guys,

With the help of someone who gave me the tip to look into the PA2067A module
for the Protégé 3010 and some other links I bought 2 of these (1 in case
kill 1...)

See http://www.xs4all.nl/~avics/Lib96MB.html how it can be done with a
module from http://www.memoryx.net/ktt3010321.html
You need some soldering skills and a little bit of case modding.

Avi.








RE: [LIB] Libretto 100/110CT with 96Mb possible!!!

2009-04-22 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:46:15 +0100
From: Chris Hogan ch...@hogan.net
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 100/110CT with 96Mb possible!!!

Try this...

http://www.rogerhenson.com/parts.php?db=12

Although my guess is he'll only have one or two, if any...

Go ahead Nick, I'm trying to avoid any extra projects for the next month!

Chris 

-Original Message-
From: Nick L [mailto:chi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 22 April 2009 10:39
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto 100/110CT with 96Mb possible!!!

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:36:55 +0100
From: Nick L chi...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto 100/110CT with 96Mb possible!!!

Nice work Avi, that's superb!

Now all we need is a cheap source in the UK :-) .  If I find one, I'll let
the list know.

Cheers,
Nick.


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RE: [LIB] sony#39;s new p series

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:41:37 -
From: Chris Hogan ch...@hogan.net
Subject: RE: [LIB] sony#39;s new p series

 photos of the guy trying to put the p in his front pocket 

David?! Guy?! If you mean the person at the opening of the video, you need
to get out more ;-)

chris

-Original Message-
From: David Chien [mailto:adorablelibre...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 15 January 2009 06:28
To: Libretto
Subject: [LIB] sony's new p series

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:47:03 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien adorablelibre...@yahoo.com
Subject: sony#39;s new p series

starting off the new year, sony has released their new p series portable.
www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/P1/ of course, one could say libretto stretched
wide. the design theory behind this model seems to be provide users with as
wide as a regular keyboard as possible, but thin and light. the problem with
this design is that now, it#39;s not that easy to store away in a small bag
(too long) and doesn#39;t fit well in a pant pocket as a less wide
mininotebook (eg raon everun).  at least the 1600x768 resolution screen
packs in twice the l110#39;s screen realestate in. too bad they didn#39;t
make the screen flip open 360 degrees to make for a ebook reader. photos of
the guy trying to put the p in his front pocket aside, one wonder where the
p is going to fit between ultra minis like the everun and oqo and 2 pound 10
plus inch minis with and without the optical drive ala panasonic w and y
series notebooks. if you can get a smaller notebook, why the p? or if  you
wanted a larger screen at the same weight, why not a panasonic w?


  







RE: [LIB] Anybody home?

2008-12-19 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:14:12 -
From: Chris Hogan ch...@hogan.net
Subject: RE: [LIB] Anybody home?

Don't worry Lee, I hadn't even noticed ;-) but thanks anyway

I would support David's suggestion -- although I still have my lib it’s not
used a great deal. 

I used to travel a lot and it was great then, particularly when some git
sitting opposite would take up all the room on the narrow tables on trains
by opening up a massive laptop. The lib would slide nicely under it and I
could get on with my work.

These days I work from home so it doesn't get out much but I still can't
bear to part with it. Next project is probably puppy linux

chris
 

-Original Message-
From: Lee Schwartz [mailto:co_mos...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 18 December 2008 01:40
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] Anybody home?

Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:39:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Lee Schwartz co_mos...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [LIB] Anybody home?

I didn't mean to leave you out, Chris.  Your response was in the Spam folder
in stupid Yahoo.


Lee

--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Chris Hogan ch...@hogan.net wrote:
From: Chris Hogan ch...@hogan.net
Subject: RE: [LIB] Anybody home?
To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:04 AM

Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:45:07 -
From: Chris Hogan ch...@hogan.net
Subject: RE: [LIB] Anybody home?

Still lurking and libbying ;-) 

-Original Message-
From: Lee Schwartz [mailto:co_mos...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 16 December 2008 02:08
To: Libretto
Subject: [LIB] Anybody home?

Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:07:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Lee Schwartz co_mos...@yahoo.com
Subject: Anybody home?

Hi,

I used to subscribe to this list, and have been away for a while.  Philip,
Matt, Pres?  Any of you guys still here?


Lee


















RE: [LIB] Anybody home?

2008-12-16 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:45:07 -
From: Chris Hogan ch...@hogan.net
Subject: RE: [LIB] Anybody home?

Still lurking and libbying ;-) 

-Original Message-
From: Lee Schwartz [mailto:co_mos...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 16 December 2008 02:08
To: Libretto
Subject: [LIB] Anybody home?

Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:07:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Lee Schwartz co_mos...@yahoo.com
Subject: Anybody home?

Hi,

I used to subscribe to this list, and have been away for a while.  Philip,
Matt, Pres?  Any of you guys still here?


Lee










RE: [LIB] can you change screen orientation on a Lib?

2008-01-23 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:02:35 -
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] can you change screen orientation on a Lib?

Thanks for the tip Jose, I'll look into it.

Trouble with Adobe reader is that it doesn't save the portrait setting so you 
have to change it EVERY time you use it. PITA

chris

-Original Message-
From: Jose Tavares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 January 2008 00:10
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] can you change screen orientation on a Lib?


Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:10:06 -0200
From: Jose Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] can you change screen orientation on a Lib?

Hi, I've already seen somebody playing with xorg and rotating the screen...
I don't know if it was done with Xrandr, but I know that xorg offers some
kind of rotation ..


On Jan 22, 2008 9:12 PM, Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:10:26 -
 From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [LIB] can you change screen orientation on a Lib?

 Actually discovered that Adobe reader can do this but would still be
 interested if anyone knows a trick to get the OS to do it, Linux or any
 other.

 Chris

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 January 2008 17:40
 To: Libretto
 Subject: [LIB] can you change screen orientation on a Lib?


 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:39:48 -
 From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: can you change screen orientation on a Lib?

 Been thinking about using my 100CT as a book reader and thought it would
 be better if the screen was in portrait mode rather than the traditional
 landscape. Of course Win98SE or 2000 doesn't allow this but I wonder if
 Linux might, or is it a restriction of the graphics chipset?

 If so, does anyone know of an application that can render large amounts of
 text sideways?

 Any clues welcome,

 Chris

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RE: [LIB] can you change screen orientation on a Lib?

2008-01-22 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:10:26 -
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] can you change screen orientation on a Lib?

Actually discovered that Adobe reader can do this but would still be interested 
if anyone knows a trick to get the OS to do it, Linux or any other.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 January 2008 17:40
To: Libretto
Subject: [LIB] can you change screen orientation on a Lib?


Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:39:48 -
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: can you change screen orientation on a Lib?

Been thinking about using my 100CT as a book reader and thought it would be 
better if the screen was in portrait mode rather than the traditional 
landscape. Of course Win98SE or 2000 doesn't allow this but I wonder if Linux 
might, or is it a restriction of the graphics chipset? 

If so, does anyone know of an application that can render large amounts of text 
sideways? 

Any clues welcome,

Chris 

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RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:34:40 +0100
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display

Matt, I can't help agreeing with Avi -- I managed not to spend any money but I 
spent over an hour browsing the site instead of working ;-)

I've always wanted a spare HD caddy as I'm always swapping them in and out, but 
I managed to stop myself. If they have a motherboard for another dead laptop 
that I have then I might put that order in.

Look forward to the results of your test order Avi, 

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Avi Cohen Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 October 2007 09:07
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display


Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:06:30 +0200
From: Avi Cohen Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display

Dear Matt. 

Will you please refraining for posting these links, it will cost me too
much :-)

Just ordered some stuff over there, including a display as the displays
on one of my libby gets has too many lines...

Very good prices! 

I'll let you guys know about my experience with this seller.

Thanks!

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 23 October, 2007 7:03
 To: Libretto
 Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display
 
 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:02:51 +
 From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display
 
 I did a little Googling as you suggested Mark.  Is this not 
 the LCD you're looking for at $ 68.02:
 
 http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/498-27202-5152/Sharp-LQ71Y03-7
 -TFT-LCD.html
 
 Looks like they have a replacement for my 100/110 'Palm Rest Casing':
 
 http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/352-27199-5152/Toshiba-Librett
 o-100CT-Palm-Rest-Casing.html
 
 They seem to stock a lot of Libretto parts at pretty 
 reasonable prices:
 
 http://www.pchub.com/uph/brand/-5/Toshiba-part-spare.html
 
 Matt
 
 Libretto list info:
 List archive 2: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com
 To unsubscribe: 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/msg16212.html
 
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Thanks for your suggestions, Matt...
 
 Meanwhile, FWIW,  it seems that librettosource.com is not active 
 anymore...
 
 Will keep an eye out for them on ebay
 
 Mark
 
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RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:45:06 +0100
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display

No stock on 110CT MB's though, boo hiss. That would have been the safest way of 
overclocking :)

chris


-Original Message-
From: Avi Cohen Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 October 2007 12:17
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display


Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:16:30 +0200
From: Avi Cohen Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display

I ordered 2 of those HD caddy thingies as well... and some screws and
two pcmcia slot covers...
It might take a 1-2 weeks before it arrives.

Don't be misled by the 640x480 screen size, most web pages appear to
have that wrong.
Secondly, I did see also a motherboard for a 100ct here
http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/64-27195-5108/Toshiba-Libretto-100CT-Mai
n-Board-Motherboard-.html


(it is almost too cheap to be true)

Avi. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 23 October, 2007 12:35
 To: Libretto
 Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display
 
 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:34:40 +0100
 From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display
 
 Matt, I can't help agreeing with Avi -- I managed not to 
 spend any money but I spent over an hour browsing the site 
 instead of working ;-)
 
 I've always wanted a spare HD caddy as I'm always swapping 
 them in and out, but I managed to stop myself. If they have a 
 motherboard for another dead laptop that I have then I might 
 put that order in.
 
 Look forward to the results of your test order Avi, 
 
 Chris
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Avi Cohen Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 October 2007 09:07
 To: Libretto
 Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display
 
 
 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:06:30 +0200
 From: Avi Cohen Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display
 
 Dear Matt. 
 
 Will you please refraining for posting these links, it will 
 cost me too much :-)
 
 Just ordered some stuff over there, including a display as 
 the displays on one of my libby gets has too many lines...
 
 Very good prices! 
 
 I'll let you guys know about my experience with this seller.
 
 Thanks!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, 23 October, 2007 7:03
  To: Libretto
  Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display
  
  Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:02:51 +
  From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [LIB] WTB: 100CT LCD Display
  
  I did a little Googling as you suggested Mark.  Is this not the LCD 
  you're looking for at $ 68.02:
  
  http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/498-27202-5152/Sharp-LQ71Y03-7
  -TFT-LCD.html
  
  Looks like they have a replacement for my 100/110 'Palm 
 Rest Casing':
  
  http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/352-27199-5152/Toshiba-Librett
  o-100CT-Palm-Rest-Casing.html
  
  They seem to stock a lot of Libretto parts at pretty reasonable 
  prices:
  
  http://www.pchub.com/uph/brand/-5/Toshiba-part-spare.html
  
  Matt
  
  Libretto list info:
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  To unsubscribe: 
  http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/msg16212.html
  
  From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Thanks for your suggestions, Matt...
  
  Meanwhile, FWIW,  it seems that librettosource.com is not active 
  anymore...
  
  Will keep an eye out for them on ebay
  
  Mark
  
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RE: [LIB] Sold my Libretto 110CT - bought Asus S200N

2007-06-21 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:38:43 +0100
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Sold my Libretto 110CT - bought Asus S200N

Yeah -- I saw one of these in an airport shop a couple of years ago and got
excited (sad, eh?!), but was put off by the max 512 ram. But Philip's 1gb
chip worked, now that's really got me thinking again.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Meir Oktan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 June 2007 04:51
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] Sold my Libretto 110CT - bought Asus S200N


Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 06:49:57 +0300
From: Meir Oktan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Sold my Libretto 110CT - bought Asus S200N

Well,
Actually, this computer is most known as JVC MP-XP731 or JVC MP-XP741
and the WEB is full of info on those.
One of the links is Philip Nienhuis page:
http://home.hccnet.nl/pr.nienhuis/jvc/JVC-main.html

Meir.

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:03 AM
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] Sold my Libretto 110CT - bought Asus S200N

Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:01:55 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Sold my Libretto 110CT - bought Asus S200N

Looks interesting... any sites with info on it in English?

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From: Meir Oktan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,
You can impressed from my new computer here:
http://www.ixbt.com/portopc/asus-s200n.shtml

Meir.



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RE: [LIB] Fdisk FAT32 switch?

2007-02-01 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:19:21 -
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Fdisk FAT32 switch?

A Dos disk made from Windows 98 will format FAT32 by default, as I
discovered to my cost a couple of weeks ago ;-)

I've found bootdisk.com useful in the past too

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 February 2007 15:09
To: Libretto
Subject: [LIB] Fdisk FAT32 switch?


Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:08:09 -0700
From: Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fdisk FAT32 switch?

I have tried both PC DOS 7 and MS DOS 6.22, both will format partition as
FAT16.
Is there a way to use FDISK to format as FAT32?

Thanks.







[LIB] OT: Help with disk setup on a Toshiba laptop

2007-01-19 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:45:37 -
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Help with disk setup on a Toshiba laptop

Hi all,

This isn't a libretto question but I know the knowledge on this list about
hard disks and operating systems is second to none so I'd be grateful if
anyone could help on this.

I have an old Toshiba T2150 (Pentium I think, 20MB Ram, 800Mb HD) which I've
been using to play with a variety of different operating systems over the
years, various flavours of Linux and BSD mostly. But I now want to get rid
of it through my local freecycle group so I thought I'd put Win95 back on
it, I don't like the idea of putting things on freecycle that are unusable.

But although I can fdisk and format the hard drive and get it running under
DOS, Win95 setup fails with the following message:

Setup found a compressed volume or disk-cache utility on your computer. Quit
setup and  blah...

If I force it to go further, it unpacks the initial setup files then fails
with error SU-0013 which is basically saying that it can't find an MS-Dos
partition to use.

I have tried using various different combinations of DOS to fdisk and format
the HD, from Dos 5.0 to Win98SE, including a Win95 boot floppy, all to no
avail. I've also tried fdisk /MBR with each version, no change. I have
booted it with the most basic dos configuration, i.e. no config.sys or
autoexec.bat at all and setup files on the hard disk so there's no CD
drivers in memory (actually the CD drive's broken now anyway )

I've tried the boot disks on the Toshiba site (I never had the original
disks) and although they boot up, they only have basic Dos with CD drivers
and tools to restore from CD (which I don't have and the drive is now
broken... etc etc). There's no fdisk/format on them and if I boot from them
and then use the fdisk/format programs from another Dos version then they
won't run (because they say 'incorrect Dos version').

I have also used a disk utility to zero the contents of the hard drive, then
fdisk/format, but again, no change.

So I am forced to conclude that the problem isn't to do with anything that's
being loaded into memory at startup, and isn't anything wrong with the one
primary DOS partition I'm creating (FAT32, btw).

That leaves either a hardware fault (unlikely, I feel) or something in the
boot sector (or other area on the disk) that Windows 95 setup doesn't
understand, and it's making it think the hard disk isn't partitioned
correctly. Not surprising since it's had all sorts of boot loaders and
enablers on it over the years.

I have two questions:

1: Would the disk zeroing program (Maxtor Maxblast, if anyone's interested)
include the boot sector, or  in it's zeroing?

2: What the *@!%£* can I try next!!

I have to admit that although I muck around with PC's a lot, the boot sector
is one area where my knowledge is limited.

Any thoughts gratefully welcomed.

Chris





[LIB] RE: OT: Help with disk setup on a Toshiba laptop -- RESOLVED

2007-01-19 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:16:13 -
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT: Help with disk setup on a Toshiba laptop -- RESOLVED

Yep, nothing like typing for half an hour to make you see what is plainly
clear, yep, FAT32 was the problem. It's now happily installing under FAT16.

Thanks for being my sounding board ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 January 2007 14:46
To: Libretto
Subject: OT: Help with disk setup on a Toshiba laptop


Hi all,

This isn't a libretto question but I know the knowledge on this list about
hard disks and operating systems is second to none so I'd be grateful if
anyone could help on this.

I have an old Toshiba T2150 (Pentium I think, 20MB Ram, 800Mb HD) which I've
been using to play with a variety of different operating systems over the
years, various flavours of Linux and BSD mostly. But I now want to get rid
of it through my local freecycle group so I thought I'd put Win95 back on
it, I don't like the idea of putting things on freecycle that are unusable.

But although I can fdisk and format the hard drive and get it running under
DOS, Win95 setup fails with the following message:

Setup found a compressed volume or disk-cache utility on your computer. Quit
setup and  blah...

If I force it to go further, it unpacks the initial setup files then fails
with error SU-0013 which is basically saying that it can't find an MS-Dos
partition to use.

I have tried using various different combinations of DOS to fdisk and format
the HD, from Dos 5.0 to Win98SE, including a Win95 boot floppy, all to no
avail. I've also tried fdisk /MBR with each version, no change. I have
booted it with the most basic dos configuration, i.e. no config.sys or
autoexec.bat at all and setup files on the hard disk so there's no CD
drivers in memory (actually the CD drive's broken now anyway )

I've tried the boot disks on the Toshiba site (I never had the original
disks) and although they boot up, they only have basic Dos with CD drivers
and tools to restore from CD (which I don't have and the drive is now
broken... etc etc). There's no fdisk/format on them and if I boot from them
and then use the fdisk/format programs from another Dos version then they
won't run (because they say 'incorrect Dos version').

I have also used a disk utility to zero the contents of the hard drive, then
fdisk/format, but again, no change.

So I am forced to conclude that the problem isn't to do with anything that's
being loaded into memory at startup, and isn't anything wrong with the one
primary DOS partition I'm creating (FAT32, btw).

That leaves either a hardware fault (unlikely, I feel) or something in the
boot sector (or other area on the disk) that Windows 95 setup doesn't
understand, and it's making it think the hard disk isn't partitioned
correctly. Not surprising since it's had all sorts of boot loaders and
enablers on it over the years.

I have two questions:

1: Would the disk zeroing program (Maxtor Maxblast, if anyone's interested)
include the boot sector, or  in it's zeroing?

2: What the *@!%£* can I try next!!

I have to admit that although I muck around with PC's a lot, the boot sector
is one area where my knowledge is limited.

Any thoughts gratefully welcomed.

Chris





RE: [LIB] Batteryrefill.com - Anyone try them?

2006-12-15 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:10:40 -
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Batteryrefill.com - Anyone try them?

Rats -- I just bought a pattern (that's english for 'non-original
manufacturer' just in case) battery for about £50 (nearly US$100) but I wish
I'd known about this site before I shelled out  .

I'll hang on to my original battery and try these guys next time but it
won't be for a few years (I hope!) now that I've got this one installed, so
if anyone else tries them please report back to the list.

I won't be unsubscribing until my libby dies, I reckon, and when/if the time
ever comes I'm sure I'll be able to work out how to do it ;-)

Chris

-Original Message-
From: David Chien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 December 2006 18:31
To: Libretto
Subject: [LIB] Batteryrefill.com - Anyone try them?


Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:28:30 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Batteryrefill.com - Anyone try them?

http://www.batteryrefill.com/laptops/toshiba/PA2503U.phtml

Supposidly, they can drop in even higher capacity cells that what the
original
cells had, and at $60, I'm thinking of trying them out to get super-long
battery life off my L110 (they've got refill service for the L50-L110, and
can
probably refill anything else you send them).

Anyone try them?

This would be a convenient service for many who want to 'refresh' their
dying/dead battery packs and get longer battery life in the process.

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[LIB] replacement 100CT battery help please

2006-10-29 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:09:48 -
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: replacement 100CT battery help please

I need a new battery and would prefer the high-capacity / extended version,
I believe the part number is PA2502U. However, real Tosh ones are scarce in
the UK.

I don't have a problem buying a non-tosh one, but I need to be sure its the
extended version. I've seen various specs e.g. 1200mAh, 2400 and 3000 (all
10.8V) and as I don't understand electricity, can someone please advise me
what to look out for before purchasing.

Thanks in advance, Chris.





RE: [LIB] No recent posts or a dead server?

2006-06-22 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:14:36 +0100
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] No recent posts or a dead server?

Can't imagine you'd be pleased at Brazil's performances so far, not really
showing the performances to match their promise, don't you think?

Oh, hang on a minute, I'm English, what am I saying!!!

-Original Message-
From: Jose Tavares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 June 2006 02:27
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] No recent posts or a dead server?


Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:26:12 -0300
From: Jose Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] No recent posts or a dead server?

Here in Brazil everybody is busy taking the libby to pubs to work..
drink some beer .. and watch Brazil win the world cup.. hehe

[]
JA Tavares


On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 01:00 -0700, Matthew Hanson wrote:
 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:00:25 +
 From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: No recent posts or a dead server?

 ditto

 Matt

 Libretto list info:
 Libretto list archive #1: http://www.technoir.nu/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi
 Libretto list archive #2:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/
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RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

2006-02-03 Thread Chris Hogan \(social\)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:07:42 +0100
From: Chris Hogan \(social\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

I've got the Seagate 100GB and it's a nice
 model - esp. so given their 5 year warranty (best
 in the market, in the USA anyways).  Solid product
 and I'm satisfied with them.

I'm about to get a new drive too -- but I'm more interested in noise (or
rather lack of it). I've been using a 10mb IBM travelstar for about 6 years
and it has always been so noisy that I thought it was about to grind to a
halt, but my 20Mb version of the same disk is completely inaudible in my
Lib.

David -- I have found 3.5 Seagate 40Mb drives quite noisy in desktops, how
is yours?

Can anyone make any recommendations for quiet drives, or noisy ones to
avoid?

TIA, Chris

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RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player choppy / memory usage / which windows components

2005-10-20 Thread Chris Hogan \(social\)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:03:44 +0100
From: Chris Hogan \(social\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player choppy / memory usage / which 
windows components

Some general Win98 trimming might help, from memory I usually delete the
disk compression files so they don't load (think one's DRVSPACE.BIN, can't
remember the other) and there's two ways of removing Explorer etc if you're
happy to use Eudora and Firefox. One is Win98lite
http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html the other is Revenge of Mozilla which I
found easier and less fuss, but you need to have a Win95 distribution lying
around to replace some of the files. Unfortunately RoM2 is no longer
supported or developed but the files are here
http://snoopy81.ifrance.com/rom2.htm

Of course you may then have to stick some of the binaries back in to get
MP3's playing again, but RoM2 certainly speeded my Lib up a hell of a lot.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Jon DuQueno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 October 2005 08:43
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player choppy / memory usage / which
windows components


Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:43:09 +0100
From: Jon DuQueno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player choppy / memory usage / which
windows components

Maybe it's some unnecessary windows component using up memory? I selected
typical install not laptop/portable, I wanted a bunch of stuff that wasn't
in laptop default components. When I was installing it looked like the
laptop/portable option was just to save disk space not CPU  memory?

I'll have a play with it later. Think I saw some XP style task / memory
manager (some Russian app?) online somewhere? might show what processes are
using the memory up.

You didn't mention anything about sound in DOS for Doom.  Did that in fact
work for you?

Yes doom 2 worked fine without any sound driver, although I've had the sound
die a couple of times mid game. I just copied the folder straight from
backup of an old machine. Maybe it was because the sound config was already
setup for my old machine and worked the same? Or doom 2 uses updated sound
component?

 You're looking at those settings in the Toshiba 'Power Saving
Properties'... right?

Yes

Is that with no apps running?  I'm not quite sure what you've got System
Monitor set to, but with 'Add Item  Kernal  Processor Usage (%)' set on
my 70, and nothing running. I'm getting a green line that is maxed at 100%.
It seems to stay there when I run apps too.  I don't see a setting in SM
specifically for idle CPU usage.

Yes 'Add Item  Kernal  Processor Usage (%)', Just checked again still only
10% when idle (just a bumpy red line along the bottom on mine). 'Memory
Manager-Allocated Memory' is 36.6MB, 'Swapfile in use' is 0 MB and 'unused
physical memory' is 2.6MB ish. Strange that yours reads 100%, maybe some
background app eating up spare CPU cycles.

With nothing running, SM shows about 5Mb unused physical memory on my 70.
I'll admit, I'm not sure what that represents.  When I open Eudora, that
drops to near zero.  Starting Winamp, it stays at zero.  But closing Winamp

causes it to pop up to 3.7Mb.  Then closing Eudora pushes it up to 8.8Mb.

When computer runs out of physical memory it starts using the 'swapfile'
(virtual memory on the hard drive) which is much slower. Looks like I may
have some extra windows components eating up some memory, don't think they
all show in crappy 98 task manager. How may colours do you run windows in,
I'm currently using 16 bit in windows and 222K in bios.


Jon D

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 October 2005 04:01
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player

Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:59:32 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player

From: Jon DuQueno [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've got 32MB RAM and I'm trying to play 192kbps mp3's.

Windows media player 6 maxes out the CPU with 4.8MB unused physical memory
and sounds very choppy. Win 5.x wouldn't play mp3's. I tried Windows media
player 9 but it was hopeless. Winamp 2.8 just about plays ok with 75% CPU
and maxed out physical memory. VLC media player is just as bad as Windows
media player 6.

I have tried killing everything in task manager but doesn't make any
difference, not much running anyway since it's a new install.

Wow I'm stumped now.  I've read posts from people having similar
problems with their Libbys and have never understood it.  Why should one
70CT system loaded with W98SE play audio fine, and another not??

You didn't mention anything about sound in DOS for Doom.  Did that in fact
work for you?

I checked
Toshiba power save and processor is set to full speed.

You're looking at those settings in the Toshiba 'Power Saving Properties'...

right?

Idle CPU 10% and
unused physical Memory 2.4Mb (using system monitor). Is this normal
performance for a 70CT?

Is that with no apps running?  I'm

RE: [LIB] RedHat Fedora 4 on the L110...

2005-10-20 Thread Chris Hogan \(social\)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:32:59 +0100
From: Chris Hogan \(social\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] RedHat Fedora 4 on the L110...

I haven't actually tried this yet but what you describe is my next step. I
think you will need to expand the ISO file rather than copy it directly onto
the partition though. Then use SmartBootManager to boot from floppy and
point to the partition.

This is all a really irritating by-product of the assumption that all PCs
can now boot from CD I was pleasantly surprised to find that the boot
floppy for RedHat 8.1, the last distribution I put on a Libby, recognised
the USB port on the docking station. SmartBootManager unfortunately doesn't.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Rick Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 October 2005 23:43
To: Libretto
Subject: [LIB] RedHat Fedora 4 on the L110...


Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:41:35 -0400
From: Rick Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RedHat Fedora 4 on the L110...

I've spent the last 12 hours or so trying to make this install work,
but there always seems to be a problem. Right now I've moved on to the
idea of using Win2k to copy over the ISO files to a spare
partition...if that doesn't work, I'll be forced to yank the HD and
hook it up to a desktop PC. It would probably also be easier with the
docking station USB, because USB devices would probably work while the
PCMCIA slot seems to not. Has anyone else managed to do this install?

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RE: [LIB] Linux the 50CT.

2005-10-14 Thread Chris Hogan \(social\)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:21:27 +0100
From: Chris Hogan \(social\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Linux  the 50CT.

In my experience there is a difference, and with only 32Mb I would imagine
it would get noticeably slower, but it would still run.

You *could* try installing just the Outlook from the 2003 CD and leaving the
rest as 2000, I haven't tried it so can't say if it would work.

As an aside, getting the ram upgraded to 64Mb (if you can find one) really
speeds things up. Mine was going like a dog recently and I finally realised
that the add-on ram had worked loose so I was only working with 32Mb, big
difference.

Chris


-Original Message-
From: Jack Krugman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 October 2005 18:57
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] Linux  the 50CT.


Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:54:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jack Krugman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Linux  the 50CT.

Is office 2003 much larger than Office 2000. I have office 2000 without
Outlook installed. I want to use Outlook to sync data with my Yahoo
account..  I have an Office  2003 CD that has Outlook. I just want to know
if my system 110CT with 32MB Win 98 SE can handle it.

Thanks,
Jack

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:51:02 -1000
From: David Vohs
Subject: Linux  the 50CT.

Anybody have any reccomendations as to what flavors of Linux work well
with the 50CT? I'd prefer to use SuSE or RedHat, but ultimately I'll
take whatever I can get.




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[LIB] RE: DVD playing project

2005-06-17 Thread Chris Hogan \(social\)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:18:23 +0200
From: Chris Hogan \(social\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DVD playing project

Apologies if this is a repeat, but I haven't seen this (or any other
messages from the list) since I sent it.

If anyone did reply, forward them to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than bore
everyone on the list again.

Thanks, Chris

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hogan (social) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 June 2005 17:57
To: Libretto
Subject: DVD playing project


Hi all,

Just bought a USB DVD drive/rewriter and was musing about playing DVD's on
the Lib (100 CT, not o/clocked (yet)). What's the best / most efficient W9x
software for playing movies that people have found?

I'm also considering a Linux project to keep me amused, now that I have a
20Gb drive installed, so recommendations for Linux players also welcomed.

(Mea culpa -- I'm working in France for the summer and the phone line is a)
provided by work and b) an emergency line for tourists who have
inconveniently died or something, so its difficult for me to trawl the net
for answers. I also now agree with Matt about the effect of the last mile on
data transfer rates -- 57k in rural France seems to be about 2400baud!)

Thanks in advance,

Chris
In France again till the end of September 2005

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[LIB] DVD playing project

2005-06-15 Thread Chris Hogan \(social\)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:57:04 +0200
From: Chris Hogan \(social\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DVD playing project

Hi all,

Just bought a USB DVD drive/rewriter and was musing about playing DVD's on
the Lib (100 CT, not o/clocked (yet)). What's the best / most efficient W9x
software for playing movies that people have found?

I'm also considering a Linux project to keep me amused, now that I have a
20Gb drive installed, so recommendations for Linux players also welcomed.

(Mea culpa -- I'm working in France for the summer and the phone line is a)
provided by work and b) an emergency line for tourists who have
inconveniently died or something, so its difficult for me to trawl the net
for answers. I also now agree with Matt about the effect of the last mile on
data transfer rates -- 57k in rural France seems to be about 2400baud!)

Thanks in advance,

Chris
In France again till the end of September 2005

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[LIB] 100ct maintenance manual?

2004-03-25 Thread Chris Hogan \(Social\)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:40:20 -
From: Chris Hogan \(Social\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 100ct maintenance manual?

If anyone knows of a link to the 100CT maintenance manual, I would really
appreciate it if you would post it on the list. I have looked around the web
and the archive to no avail.

Many thanks in advance,

Chris 'chickening-out-of-w2k-upgrade' Hogan

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Re: [LIB] infrared port and overclocking?

2003-03-20 Thread Chris Hogan -- Telepay
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:56:59 -
From: Chris Hogan -- Telepay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] infrared port and overclocking?

Thanks Ray, I haven't butchered the IR port yet :)

 as my Nokia 8210 quite nicely (and in the case of the
 Nokia, surf the web through it) under Win2k

That must count as sadism, surely, at 9600? I too have an 8210 but was
considering an 8310 to get GPRS, however someone told me today that it would
be pointless as the IR speed is no faster than 9600.

Fact or fantasy?

The France trip is off now but I'm still keen to have a reasonably fast no
cable solution.

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[LIB] infrared port and overclocking?

2003-03-19 Thread Chris Hogan -- Telepay
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:11:39 -
From: Chris Hogan -- Telepay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: infrared port and overclocking?

 Everything seemed to work at 266 except the Infrared port.

Aaaargh!! Just in time -- I was about to o'clock my 100 to 266 but IR is
essential for mobile comms through the Nokia for me. I have an Orange/Nokia
data card (28.8k with HSCD but not in France, where I may be going for the
summer, can only get 9600) so I was going to experiment with an 8310 and
GPRS via IR. I'm using Win98SE but would consider going W2k if the overclock
works out ok.

Has anyone else experienced IR problems with overclocked systems? I don't
recall hearing about it before on the list. Any IR snags with W2k maybe?

TIA as ever, Chris




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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub -- 3rd Way ;-)

2003-03-03 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:10:49 -
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Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub -- 3rd Way ;-)

 A: I'd need the converter.
 B: I'd need to get the HD out of the L1, which is not trivial.
 C: I'd have to dig into my main system.. :(

I was once in the same position -- there is another way, but probably just
as many problems, and that is to make up a DOS boot floppy with drivers for
a pcmcia network card then copy the XP distribution from another system.
However you will need:

1. A network card that comes with DOS drivers (not so common these days)
2. A network, either at home or work, that you can log into with the disk
3. Bizarre and arcane knowledge of DOS startup files and memory management.
4. DOS pcmcia socket services and knowledge of their use.

Its too long-winded to go into here, however I will happily email my floppy
disk contents, all you'd need to do then is replace my netcard drivers
(Xircom 10M CE II PS) with yours, and tweak the config files. To my
surprise, the disk I made for my old ThinkPad worked straight away in my
Libretto (which I have back, hurrah, long story for another time perhaps),
and a colleague's Portege, as long as the card was in the correct slot. So
although it was a bit of a slog making the disk, its paid back very well.

HTH, feel free to email me off list for long and involved instructions :)

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[LIB] RE: [LIBRETTO] Libretto Digest #1563

2002-01-23 Thread Chris Hogan

Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:31:23 -
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIBRETTO] Libretto Digest #1563

 Date: 11 Jan 2002 10:02:00 +0800
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nik Ahmad Fahmi)
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto replacement-ish review

  Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:40:13 -0800 (PST)
  From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto replacement-ish review

That's the LOOX in Japan, or the P-series for $1499 in the USA (but
USA
  model has 800Mhz processor and built-in CD-R/DVD-ROM drive and more
  goodies).

 I am having in front of me a Fujitsu Lifebook P-1030 subnotebook. From
 David's description of Loox, I think this is a different model. The specs
 are as described here : http://www.fujitsu-pc-asia.com/products/
 lb_p1030_main.html.

 It is slightly longer than the 110CT (8.9 wide TFT display) but lighter
 than the 110CT (880g). It definitely make a good replacement for my ageing
 110CT but it's lacking an IrDA port which I need occassionally for use
 with my Nokia 7110.

this is indeed a different system to the one I have. Fujitsu Siemens web
site doesn't seem to have any pictures or product info on their site yet,
but this is the spec:
http://fsc-pc.de/KnowHow_DriverCD/E/Produkte/P2020/P2020Vergleich.htm

So far so good with this system, I miss the irda port as well, and also got
caught short when I needed to print something -- oops no parallel port ;-).
Reasonable in these USB days but means I have to go and buy converters.
Still hoping to get my old L100 back tho.

Chris





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RE: Infrared on L100 W95

2001-06-09 Thread Chris Hogan

Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:17:08 +0100
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Infrared on L100 W95

There's probably some of the others out there who'll know the details of
this better then me, but I remember that I never got IR working on my 100CT
(Win98) to my Nokia 61xx phone a couple years ago, though I spent weeks
trying.

IIRC in the end I discovered that either the phone or the lib (think it was
the lib) did not have a  'standard' IR implementation so it was a dead horse
from the start.

I know that one guy had it working but with a 110CT and a Communicator.

Chris

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 Sent: 08 June 2001 23:07
 To: Libretto
 Subject: Infrared on L100 W95


 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:53:18 +0100
 From: Steve Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Infrared on L100 W95

 Hello Libretters

 Has anone got an L100 infra red port working under W95 to talk to
 a Nokia phone? I have installed the Tosh IR driver, and the MS
 V2.0 driver, then the Lib hangs on bootup. Removing the MS
 driver makes the Lib boot, but the Nokia s/w hangs looking for the
 phone.

 Any ideas please? Do I need to go to W98 Lite to have get
 proper IrDa V2.0 support?


 Regards,

 Steve Brewer
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