Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub -- 3rd Way ;-)

2003-03-03 Thread Chris Hogan
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:10:49 -
From: Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub -- 3rd Way ;-)

 A: I'd need the converter.
 B: I'd need to get the HD out of the L1, which is not trivial.
 C: I'd have to dig into my main system.. :(

I was once in the same position -- there is another way, but probably just
as many problems, and that is to make up a DOS boot floppy with drivers for
a pcmcia network card then copy the XP distribution from another system.
However you will need:

1. A network card that comes with DOS drivers (not so common these days)
2. A network, either at home or work, that you can log into with the disk
3. Bizarre and arcane knowledge of DOS startup files and memory management.
4. DOS pcmcia socket services and knowledge of their use.

Its too long-winded to go into here, however I will happily email my floppy
disk contents, all you'd need to do then is replace my netcard drivers
(Xircom 10M CE II PS) with yours, and tweak the config files. To my
surprise, the disk I made for my old ThinkPad worked straight away in my
Libretto (which I have back, hurrah, long story for another time perhaps),
and a colleague's Portege, as long as the card was in the correct slot. So
although it was a bit of a slog making the disk, its paid back very well.

HTH, feel free to email me off list for long and involved instructions :)

Chris
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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread brett
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 23:17:17 +0900
From: brett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

you'll have to take out the HDD and copy install files to it from a desktop if you 
have no bootable CD or FDD.
or
if you have a bootable FDD you can setup the HDD as FAT32 and copy the files via FDD
partition HDD C=9GB D=the rest (FAT32)
RAR up a small OS like win98
copy to HDD via FDD (takes a LONG time)
install that,
then copy XP files to hdd in win 98
reboot from FDD and install XP from the partition

NOTE: you may want to keep a small (100MB) ghost image of win 98 (for future rescue) 
on the D partition...
from memory L1 has no real PCMCIA support in dos as far as I know (if you can get a 
LAN card working in dos, that will be faster)
from memory L1 firewire and USB are not supported fully in dos.

just my opinions... might be a better way
-Brett

David VanHorn wrote:

 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:55:46 -0500
 From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: L1 Scrub

 I finally had a virus get past Eudora somehow.

 I got a boot sector virus that tells me every time I boot that my copy of windows is 
 illegal.  So, I've scrubbed the drive, and have it booting normally with win98 sys 
 on C:.

 How can I get XP installed??  I have no CDROM in the machine, only USB and Firewire 
 ports.

 I tried the 6 disk boot deal from Microsoft, and all I get is a stop error after 
 the 6th disk. Very tedious.

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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread vassaux
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:46:47 +0100
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Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub
If it is really a bootsector virus, you can boot from a floppy and type:
fdisk /mbr
Else you can copy win CD on your disk using DOS and a CD driver, that's 
10 times quicker than copying win98 to support the CD (such things 
is ony 1 floppy disk).
   Julian

David VanHorn wrote:

Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:55:46 -0500
From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: L1 Scrub
I finally had a virus get past Eudora somehow. 

I got a boot sector virus that tells me every time I boot that my copy of windows is illegal.  So, I've scrubbed the drive, and have it booting normally with win98 sys on C:.

How can I get XP installed??  I have no CDROM in the machine, only USB and Firewire ports.  

I tried the 6 disk boot deal from Microsoft, and all I get is a stop error after the 6th disk. Very tedious.





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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread David VanHorn
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:28:20 -0500
From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

At 07:48 AM 2/28/2003 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:46:47 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

If it is really a bootsector virus, you can boot from a floppy and type:
fdisk /mbr

I used debug to write zeroes to the boot sector. 
It's gone :)

Else you can copy win CD on your disk using DOS and a CD driver, that's 10 times 
quicker than copying win98 to support the CD (such things is ony 1 floppy disk).
   Julian

Will that work for a USB CDROM?






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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread vassaux
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:57:20 +0100
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Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub
argh USB and DOS... I don't think it'll work... [;-)]
But you can still have a 1 or 2 foot floppy disk with linux kernel and 
some basic programs that will support your usb CD [:-)]
Linux is great !! (I'm running Linux Mandrake 9 on my Lib50 32Mo RAM and 
20GB HDD)
   Julian

David VanHorn wrote:

Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:28:20 -0500
From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub
At 07:48 AM 2/28/2003 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:46:47 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub
If it is really a bootsector virus, you can boot from a floppy and type:
fdisk /mbr
I used debug to write zeroes to the boot sector. 
It's gone :)


Else you can copy win CD on your disk using DOS and a CD driver, that's 10 times 
quicker than copying win98 to support the CD (such things is ony 1 floppy disk).
 Julian
Will that work for a USB CDROM?





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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread Lawrence Young
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:56:46 -0500
From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

fdisk /mbr method is a much easier and safe way to clean up the partition
sectors in a HDD. Of course, the DEBUG is a handy tool but you need to put a
few lines of assembly code to call BIOS INT13 to wipe out the master boot
sector. I can't believe you still remember how to do it, David. Last time I
did it, I had to open my dusty DOS book:)

As for boot from CD-ROM, it requires BIOS support. Not sure what is support
in L1 BIOS. I'll just hook up a 2.5 to 3.5 converter and copy all the XP
files from another computer to the HDD and run setup from HDD directly.

- Original Message - 
From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub


Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:28:20 -0500
From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

At 07:48 AM 2/28/2003 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:46:47 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

If it is really a bootsector virus, you can boot from a floppy and type:
fdisk /mbr

I used debug to write zeroes to the boot sector.
It's gone :)

Else you can copy win CD on your disk using DOS and a CD driver, that's
10 times quicker than copying win98 to support the CD (such things is
ony 1 floppy disk).
   Julian

Will that work for a USB CDROM?






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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread barnacle
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:18:51 +
From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

On Friday 28 Feb 2003 7:58 pm, you wrote:
 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:57:20 +0100
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

 argh USB and DOS... I don't think it'll work... [;-)]
 But you can still have a 1 or 2 foot floppy disk with linux kernel and
 some basic programs that will support your usb CD [:-)]
 Linux is great !! (I'm running Linux Mandrake 9 on my Lib50 32Mo RAM and
 20GB HDD)

Bloody hell! I hope you're not trying to run kde on it then? The last Mandrake 
that was usable on the 50 (or 70) was imho 7.1 with IceWm.

Neil



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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread barnacle
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:20:16 +
From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

On Friday 28 Feb 2003 8:01 pm, you wrote:
 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:56:46 -0500
 From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

 fdisk /mbr method is a much easier and safe way to clean up the partition
 sectors in a HDD. Of course, the DEBUG is a handy tool but you need to put
 a few lines of assembly code to call BIOS INT13 to wipe out the master boot
 sector. I can't believe you still remember how to do it, David. Last time I
 did it, I had to open my dusty DOS book:)

Real men use load'n'set switches...

Neil (well, hex keypads... near enough)



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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread David VanHorn
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:32:21 -0500
From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Real men use load'n'set switches...

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Click, Load, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, 
Click, Click, Load, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, 
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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread David VanHorn
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:33:05 -0500
From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

At 11:58 AM 2/28/2003 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:57:20 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

argh USB and DOS... I don't think it'll work... [;-)]
But you can still have a 1 or 2 foot floppy disk with linux kernel and some basic 
programs that will support your usb CD [:-)]
Linux is great !! (I'm running Linux Mandrake 9 on my Lib50 32Mo RAM and 20GB HDD)

I would, but my cadware requires gatesware. 





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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread RSchw74573
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:13:15 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/03 1:47:26 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  As for boot from CD-ROM, it requires BIOS support. Not sure what is 
support 
 in L1 BIOS. I'll just hook up a 2.5 to 3.5 converter and copy all the XP 
 files from another computer to the HDD and run setup from HDD directly.
  
  A: I'd need the converter.
  B: I'd need to get the HD out of the L1, which is not trivial.
  C: I'd have to dig into my main system.. :(
  
  Problems..

Problem A:  http://www.compgeeks.com/products.asp?cat=HDD   for the 
2.5-3.5 adapter, it's the cheapest one I've found, but you'll have to pay 
for shipping.

Lee



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Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub

2003-02-28 Thread vassaux
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:38:26 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub
KDE? Of course not!! I don't even run it on my desktop pc, I don't like 
it at all... I'm running Enlightenment, and I also use text terminals 
quite often. It's running really fine. :-)
   Julian

barnacle wrote:

Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:18:51 +
From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub
On Friday 28 Feb 2003 7:58 pm, you wrote:

Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:57:20 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] L1 Scrub
argh USB and DOS... I don't think it'll work... [;-)]
But you can still have a 1 or 2 foot floppy disk with linux kernel and
some basic programs that will support your usb CD [:-)]
Linux is great !! (I'm running Linux Mandrake 9 on my Lib50 32Mo RAM and
20GB HDD)
Bloody hell! I hope you're not trying to run kde on it then? The last Mandrake 
that was usable on the 50 (or 70) was imho 7.1 with IceWm.

Neil



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