Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread dave sag
At 5:23 PM -0500 5/3/02, Forrest J. Cavalier III wrote: in pseudocode clause 4 if (haveNoPermissionToUseterm(pronoic))) { if (useterm(pronoic)) { noProblem(); } else { notInTheSpiritOfIt(); } } else {

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
APOSSL is a BSD style licence save for the following special points. * the name of the software should not include pronoic.org or Pronoic Ltd. That makes it like the Apache license, I think. * the software should be described as being pronoic unless you ask for permission to use the

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting dave sag ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): * the software should be described as being pronoic unless you ask for permission to use the term pronoic. in that case your request will be denied. This is just... so Zen. A modest proposal as to form follows: The software should be Described as

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread dave sag
At 9:48 AM -0500 6/3/02, Forrest J. Cavalier III wrote: APOSSL is a BSD style licence save for the following special points. * the name of the software should not include pronoic.org or Pronoic Ltd. That makes it like the Apache license, I think. that's fine. * the software should

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread dave sag
last summer we wrote some highly pronoic code now just needs licence VOTE yes to APOSSL cheers dave At 9:25 AM -0800 6/3/02, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting dave sag ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): * the software should be described as being pronoic unless you ask for permission to use the term pronoic.

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread Matthew C . Weigel
On Wednesday, March 6, 2002, at 07:23 a, dave sag wrote: the basic ideas are as follows: APOSSL is a BSD style licence save for the following special points. * the name of the software should not include pronoic.org or Pronoic Ltd. This is not a difference. Neither the name of

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread Matthew C . Weigel
On Wednesday, March 6, 2002, at 12:43 p, dave sag wrote: I get the idea that you feel that there should be as few OSSLs as possible and are acting more as a review board than an accreditation board. We are neither. We are a discussion board. The discussion tends towards, another!?!?

Off topic question re Export controls

2002-03-06 Thread Bernard Nyman
I hope you don't mind me e-mailing you with an off-topic question on export controls, but I thought that this group would have people who are able to reply knowledgeably. I am acting for a UK-based book publisher that is proposing to publish a book for programmers concerning a particular

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread Forrest J Cavalier III
What does quine'd mean? http://www.ship.edu/~deensl/pgss/Day16/goedel.html (I admit I used the term loosely to describe a statement which can be read as a self-reference at more than one level that creats a contradiction.) Here is the response I would give you about OSI approval for your

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
I wrote: Here is the response I would give you about OSI approval for your license. Your request will be rejected is your request will be rejected. I thought of another appropriate response... We will refuse when you ask is we will refuse when you ask. And another... We won't

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread dave sag
well this is way off topic but At 3:04 PM -0500 6/3/02, Forrest J. Cavalier III wrote: I wrote: Here is the response I would give you about OSI approval for your license. Your request will be rejected is your request will be rejected. nice try but quines make sense. your response makes

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread Matthew C . Weigel
On Wednesday, March 6, 2002, at 03:41 p, dave sag wrote: nice try but quines make sense. your response makes no sense. He made a small mistake: what he meant was... Will be rejected when approval is asked will be rejected when approval is asked. Is OK as long as you don't want our stamp of

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Matthew C. Weigel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): 1. It's still not a dessert topping, though. Is not a dessert topping, but is more relevant to this list's charter than the pronoia licence is not a dessert topping, but is more relevant to this list's charter than the pronoia licence. --

request for approval of APPOSL - going by the numbers.

2002-03-06 Thread dave sag
Hi OSSL experts, In my earlier posts to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I failed to follow protocol and snagged myself on a couple of silly misunderstandings. For this I apologise. I have now followed from the list at http://www.opensource.org/docs/certification_mark.html and hope that this meets with

Re: request for approval of APOSSL

2002-03-06 Thread dave sag
okay, sorry to be a pedant. this will be the last post on this OT thread from me. At 4:27 PM -0500 6/3/02, Matthew C. Weigel wrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2002, at 03:41 p, dave sag wrote: nice try but quines make sense. your response makes no sense. He made a small mistake: what he meant

Re: serious?

2002-03-06 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
all fun aside, I am serious about APOSSL and believe I have reacted in a serious manner to all serious points made. Serious means more than simply not joking. John Cowan pointed out a major mistake in 1.0, which was totally the opposite of what you intended. If you were serious you would