Re: Approval Requested for AFL 1.2 and OSL 1.1

2002-11-06 Thread Chris F Clark
Perhaps it makes sense (say in a preamble) to mention that certain sections (and obviously which sections) use wording copied from the US copyright code, so that eveyone knows that the reasons the words sound strange is that they are legal jargon with precise meanings -Chris --

Re: Approval Requested for AFL 1.2 and OSL 1.1

2002-11-06 Thread Henry Pijffers
Lawrence E. Rosen wrote: The word prepare is taken from 17 U.S.C. ยง106, which reserves to the author of a copyrighted work the exclusive right to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work. If the word is good enough for the U.S. Copyright Act, its good enough for me. How good

Re: Approval Requested for AFL 1.2 and OSL 1.1

2002-11-06 Thread John Cowan
Henry Pijffers scripsit: How good do you think it is for us Europeans and other non-US residents? International copyright law is pretty uniform. Since the license was drawn up in the U.S., the chances are good that any Berne Convention court (which means just about any court nowadays) will

RE: Approval Requested for AFL 1.2 and OSL 1.1

2002-11-06 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
I've been talking to Russ Nelson and Steve Mallett about setting up a separate threaded list where we can collect good FAQs about these licenses. Anyone with ideas for getting such a FAQ together should speak up. There's many more people than me who could contribute to such a FAQ. I'm reluctant

RE: Approval Requested for AFL 1.2 and OSL 1.1

2002-11-06 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
From: Henry Pijffers [mailto:henry.pijffers;saxnot.com] How good do you think it is for us Europeans and other non-US residents? And on a sidenote, I don't like licenses that designate a specific court of law. I ain't gonna go to the US of A to defend my rights. Under the OSL, if you

OSL and AFL in other countries

2002-11-06 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
From: Henry Pijffers [mailto:henry.pijffers;saxnot.com] How good do you think it is for us Europeans and other non-US residents? One other suggestion about this Does anyone out there want to translate the OSL and AFL into other languages? Perhaps some lawyer with time on his hands and a

Re: Approval Requested for AFL 1.2 and OSL 1.1

2002-11-06 Thread Henry Pijffers
Lawrence E. Rosen wrote: Under the OSL, if you are the Licensor you determine the jurisdiction. It's your software after all. So if you write and license your software in Europe to customers anywhere, you can defend your rights in Europe under European contract law. This suits me fine when I

Re: Approval Requested for AFL 1.2 and OSL 1.1

2002-11-06 Thread Bruce Dodson
From: Mike Nordell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce Dodson top-posted: Derivative Works means derivative works based upon the Original Work, as upposed to derivative works based upon Marvel Comics characters, or derivative works based upon previously-unreleased Elvis tracks. Since the definition

Re: Plan 9 license

2002-11-06 Thread Bruce Dodson
I disagree. (I know, I do that a lot, but I mean well.) It's best if licenses are simply either approved or not approved. There is no list of licenses that have been rejected or withdrawn; that would be punitive. By the same token, there should be no special status given to licenses in limbo.

Re: Approval Request: RPSL 1.0

2002-11-06 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi all, Just a reminder to look at the RPSL. I haven't seen any comments on it, so I guess it must be perfect. :) Rob On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 19:47, Rob Lanphier wrote: Hi everyone, Here is a link to the RealNetworks Public Source License (RPSL):

Re: Approval Request: RPSL 1.0

2002-11-06 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi all, Just a reminder to look at the RPSL. I haven't seen any comments on the 1.0 version, so I guess it must be perfect. :) Rob -- Rob Lanphier, Helix Community Coordinator - RealNetworks http://helixcommunity.org http://rtsp.org http://realnetworks.com On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 19:47, Rob

Express and implied warranties in software licenses

2002-11-06 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
Bruce Dodson wrote: snip The other two concerns -- about whether I'm on the hook for other warranties besides the one that is offered explicitly (Magnusson Moss). You are repeating the notion, occasionally mentioned on license-discuss, that if an open source license offers any warranties at