Re: Academic Free License version 2.0

2003-07-17 Thread John Cowan
, Wormtongue, you have done what you could for your true master. Some reward you have earned at least. Yet Saruman is apt to overlook his bargains. I should advise you to go quickly and remind him, lest he forget your faithful service. --Gandalf John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- license-discuss

Re: For Approval: OSPI License 1.0

2003-08-01 Thread John Cowan
Christopher D. Coppola scripsit: Thanks for your consideration, IMHO this license is obviously Open Source, consisting of a trivial patch to the JOSL, and should be fast-tracked by OSI. -- John Cowanhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any legal document draws most of its

Re: Question of basic rights

2003-08-14 Thread John Cowan
undefined term. You may commit the work to memory, or (most scurvily) use its ideas in your own code with no attribution whatsoever. I am not a lawyer; this is not legal advice. -- Business before pleasure, if not too bloomering long before. --Nicholas van Rijn John Cowan

Re: Can abandonment be irrevocable?

2003-08-18 Thread John Cowan
appropriate. Copyright being a creature of statute and incorporeal, can't be appropriated like a piece of paper. So either abandonment is not possible, or it has the effect of dedicating the work to the public domain. -- Híggledy-pìggledy / XML programmersJohn Cowan Try to escape those / I

Re: For Approval: The Wilhelm Svenselius Open Source License version 1.0

2003-09-02 Thread John Cowan
that are sold. Otherwise, the license looks fine. But it doesn't seem to do anything that the GPL doesn't do, or (more to the point) the OSL version 2. -- One art / There is John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] No less / No more http://www.reutershealth.com All

Re: For Approval: Public Security Interrest PSI License

2003-09-12 Thread John Cowan
criteria: What you have here is a derivative work of the GPL, and you need FSF permission to make such a thing, since the license of the GPL does not grant you that right. -- At the end of the Metatarsal Age, the dinosaurs John Cowan abruptly vanished. The theory that a single

Re: Corba interfacesand GPL freedom

2003-09-14 Thread John Cowan
IIS. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Original line from _The Warrior's Apprentice_ by Lois McMaster Bujold: Only on Barrayar would pulling a loaded needler start a stampede toward one. English-to-Russian-to-English mangling thereof: Only on Barrayar you

Re: For Approval: Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial License

2003-09-18 Thread John Cowan
John Cowan that their God will rouse them[EMAIL PROTECTED] A little before the nuts work loose.http://www.ccil.org/~cowan They do not teach http://www.reutershealth.com that His Pity allows them

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-24 Thread John Cowan
relicensed. What is meant is that derivative works in non-textual form can't be licensed under a copyleft license, for an appropriate definition of copyleft. It would be better to word this must not rather than may not, which latter is subject to misreading. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-25 Thread John Cowan
the BSD or the MIT or the AFL or whatever. -- We call nothing profound[EMAIL PROTECTED] that is not wittily expressed. John Cowan --Northrop Frye (improved) http://www.reutershealth.com -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-25 Thread John Cowan
Mike Wattier scripsit: yeah.. and IMHO this is the very reason that many who want to support the Open Source community, will not do so. It is slowly becoming a cheerleading section for the GPL. Nonsense. Tell that to Mr. Behlendorf, open and notorious OSI supporter and promulgator of a

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-25 Thread John Cowan
, or enforcing. -- Work hard, John Cowan play hard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] die young, http://www.reutershealth.com rot quickly.http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-25 Thread John Cowan
importance of freedom-to-code vs. freedom-to-use- the-latest-and-greatest, basically. -- Income tax, if I may be pardoned for saying so, John Cowan is a tax on income. --Lord Macnaghten (1901) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-25 Thread John Cowan
complexity of copyleft licenses, which makes them harder to understand and lead to more mistaken impressions. (And then there's the Rogue, whose views are sui generis.) -- One art / There is John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] No less / No more http

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-26 Thread John Cowan
noun. Priscian's head shrinks, cracks. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Is it not written, That which is written, is written? -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-26 Thread John Cowan
force method of making sure there are no proprietary improvements. I don't see how you can have it both ways. -- Do NOT stray from the path! John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Gandalf http://www.ccil.org/~cowan -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-26 Thread John Cowan
, and unbiased news and information. *That's* our commercial product. Implying that people who write the software that supports it are doodling is insulting and unwarranted. /flame -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.comhttp

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-26 Thread John Cowan
, business means a a widget producing business that doesn't want to reinvent the wheel nor give away the plans to the kingdom. Where, in turn, widget means not any commodity (as is usual in discussions of economics), but specifically proprietary software product. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-26 Thread John Cowan
alternative that suits my needs and the needs of others. Your license is fine, once the ambiguities are squeezed out, and I recommend that the OSI approve it. I don't believe your advocacy is founded on sound argumentation, which is an entirely independent point. This list discusses both. -- John

Re: please discuss EU DataGrid

2003-09-26 Thread John Cowan
: the part John Cowan that cooks with lard and goose fat, the partwww.ccil.org/~cowan that cooks with olive oil, and the part thatwww.reutershealth.com cooks with butter. -- David Chessler[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- license-discuss archive is at http

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-26 Thread John Cowan
the license conditions. Specifically, bison is a fork of an early version of byacc; bison was modified a bit and released under the GPL. -- Clear? Huh! Why a four-year-old childJohn Cowan could understand this report. Run out [EMAIL PROTECTED] and find me a four-year-old child

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-27 Thread John Cowan
://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses -- My confusion is rapidly waxing John Cowan For XML Schema's too taxing:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd use DTDshttp://www.reutershealth.com If they had local trees -- http://www.ccil.org

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-27 Thread John Cowan
two works, one under the GPL and the other under the EIOL! The GPL licensor would claim (rightly IMHO) that the derivative work was unlicensed. TINLA (obviously). /Larry -- After fixing the Y2K bug in an application: John Cowan WELCOME TO censored [EMAIL

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-27 Thread John Cowan
discriminates against people who write proprietary software by denying them the right to use valuable GPLed modules in their products. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Does anybody want any flotsam? / I've gotsam. Does anybody want any jetsam? / I can getsam. --Ogden

Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License

2003-09-28 Thread John Cowan
David Presotto scripsit: As an aside, it might have been less inflamatory if the license has said ``if source of the program and any derivatives is distributed under an inheritive license (e.g. GPL), it must ALSO be distributed under this license.'' Then Sean would always have access to

Re: Understanding the LGPL.

2003-10-02 Thread John Cowan
can link this with anything you want, often does the work of the LGPL more simply. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com ccil.org/~cowan Dievas dave dantis; Dievas duos duonos --Lithuanian proverb Deus dedit dentes; deus dabit panem --Latin version thereof

Re: Understanding the LGPL.

2003-10-03 Thread John Cowan
freedom for people who aren't software developers. That's why *I* use it. Speak your experience as your truth. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] All isms should be wasms. --Abbie -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: Understanding the LGPL.

2003-10-03 Thread John Cowan
on your toes never fall out! John Cowan --Thorin Oakenshield (to Bilbo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: OSD#5 needs a patch?

2003-10-08 Thread John Cowan
marvel at the creature: so secret and John Cowan so sly as he is, to come sporting in the pool [EMAIL PROTECTED] before our very window. Does he think that http://www.reutershealth.com Men sleep without watch all night? --Faramir http://www.ccil.org/~cowan -- license-discuss archive

Re: OSD#5 needs a patch?

2003-10-09 Thread John Cowan
pills to work while blocking the argument that they discriminate against the class of people who sue the licensor for patent infringement. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.comhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan Humpty Dump Dublin squeaks through

Re: OSD#5 needs a patch?

2003-10-09 Thread John Cowan
or limited by law or that is applicable alike to persons of every sex, color, race, religion, ancestry, national origin, disability, or medical condition. This doesn't seem to parse. Can you expound, or at least unpack it a bit? -- You let them out again, Old Man Willow! John

Re: mysql

2003-11-21 Thread John Cowan
described by it, unless the software incorporates non-trivial parts of the documentation. TINLA. -- You let them out again, Old Man Willow! John Cowan What you be a-thinking of? You should not be waking! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eat earth! Dig deep! Drink water! Go to sleep

Re: Which License should I pick?

2003-12-04 Thread John Cowan
language causes my eyes to glaze rather rapidly.) Notwithstanding this point, I think you should at least consider the Academic Free License, because of its protection against patent poison pills. -- John Cowanhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any legal document draws most of its

Re: Which License should I pick?

2003-12-04 Thread John Cowan
. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.comhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan Humpty Dump Dublin squeaks through his norse Humpty Dump Dublin hath a horrible vorse But for all his kinks English / And his irismanx brogues

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-14 Thread John Cowan
this, but it rarely happens and is generally considered a Bad Thing. Forks which remain split and where both branches have substantial life are very few: GNU Emacs/XEmacs, bison/byacc, FreeBSD/NetBSD, NetBSD/OpenBSD. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: For Approval: CUA Office Public License

2003-12-21 Thread John Cowan
not. The MPL, like the SISSL, provides for reuse of unmodified files of source code in derivative works under any license. It requires distribution of source only of those files which have been modified, if any. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com [P]olice

Re: For Approval: CUA Office Public License

2003-12-21 Thread John Cowan
derivative works. -- I suggest you call for help,John Cowan or learn the difficult art of mud-breathing.[EMAIL PROTECTED] --Great-Souled Sam http://www.ccil.org/~cowan -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: For Approval: Panda3D Public License Version 1.0

2003-12-22 Thread John Cowan
from the licensee, not a whole series of them. If this problem is fixed, I see no problems with OSI approval. IANAL, TINLA, IANA OSI board member either. -- You let them out again, Old Man Willow! John Cowan What you be a-thinking of? You should not be waking! [EMAIL

Re: Why?

2003-12-29 Thread John Cowan
under U.S. law is not alienable. -- Do I contradict myself?John Cowan Very well then, I contradict myself.[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am large, I contain multitudes. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --Walt Whitman, _Leaves of Grass_ http

Re: Why?

2003-12-29 Thread John Cowan
. IANAL, TINLA. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] All isms should be wasms. --Abbie -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

OT: Sauron: Offer and Acceptance

2004-01-02 Thread John Cowan
For those who haven't seen this yet: http://blog.qiken.org/archives/000196.html LOTR meets the lawyers -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] All isms should be wasms. --Abbie -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: The Copyright Act preempts the GPL

2004-01-27 Thread John Cowan
, but by a condition imposed on the exercise of the license. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com [P]olice in many lands are now complaining that local arrestees are insisting on having their Miranda rights read to them, just like perps in American TV cop shows. When it's

Re: PCT (Patents, Copyright, Trademark) policy and Open Source

2004-02-01 Thread John Cowan
Brian Behlendorf scripsit: I love it. They filed a patent for a process my company had a working example of long before the date of filing, and unlike these guys, we actually implemented it and ran it. We don't run our site, SourceXchange, any longer, but it's still infuriating to see IBM

Re: The Copyright Act preempts the GPL

2004-02-06 Thread John Cowan
right to perform it publicly. No further permission is required. If you think otherwise, please point to the relevant sentence of the Copyright Act or case law. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be yourself. Especially do not feign a working knowledge of RDF

Re: The Copyright Act preempts the GPL

2004-02-06 Thread John Cowan
a collective work. What you need is the author of a novel successfully suing for copyright infringement those who pirate a movie based on the novel, or a translation of the novel, or something of the sort. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.com Mr. Lane, if you ever wish

Re: The Copyright Act preempts the GPL

2004-02-06 Thread John Cowan
, John Cowan things are just as they are; http://www.ccil.org/~cowan if you do not understand, http://www.reutershealth.com things are just as they are. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: The Copyright Act preempts the GPL

2004-02-06 Thread John Cowan
copies of a movie based on it. IANAL TINLA Likewise. Infinite are the arguments of mages. -- I could dance with you till the cows John Cowan come home. On second thought, I'd http://www.ccil.org/~cowan rather dance with the cows when you http

Re: The Copyright Act preempts the GPL

2004-02-09 Thread John Cowan
requires considerably more state than seems to me consistent with the meaning of the word mechanical. -- All Norstrilians knew what laughter was:John Cowan it was pleasurable corrigible malfunction.http://www.reutershealth.com --Cordwainer Smith, _Norstrilia_[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: For Approval: NASA Open Source Agreement Version 1.1

2004-02-12 Thread John Cowan
John Cowan of the Open Source movement.[EMAIL PROTECTED] --Lloyd A. Conway, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan amazon.com review http://www.reutershealth.com -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi

U.S. government works in other countries

2004-02-12 Thread John Cowan
in copyright in the country of origin. -- Work hard, John Cowan play hard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] die young, http://www.reutershealth.com rot quickly.http

Re: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread John Cowan
aren't simply collections, however; linkers break up and redistribute the individual object files into different regions of the executable. -- There is / One art John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] No more / No less http://www.reutershealth.com To do / All things

Re: For Approval: NASA Open Source Agreement Version 1.1

2004-02-13 Thread John Cowan
within the U.S. for works written by civil servants, as is the law. That implies that copyright *is* claimed for such works *outside* the U.S., which AFAIK is an entirely novel point, which is why I posted a query about it last night. -- While staying with the Asonu, I met a man from John Cowan

Re: The Copyright Act preempts the GPL

2004-02-16 Thread John Cowan
-1976 law, are specially intended to arrange for the rights to be recaptured by the author or his heirs. This is not legal advice, etc. +1 -- After fixing the Y2K bug in an application: John Cowan WELCOME TO censored [EMAIL PROTECTED] DATE: MONDAK, JANUARK 1

Re: apache license 2.0 for consideration

2004-02-18 Thread John Cowan
provides an implied patent license.) A specific MIT-licensed program may be GPL-incompatible, but MIT-licensed programs as a class are not, because they don't impose any requirements incompatible with the GPL's. -- Where the wombat has walked,John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will inevitably

Re: The regrettable use of all in Section 7 of the GPL

2004-02-19 Thread John Cowan
have spoken. = Isn't there some way to avoid this daffy butterslide to Hell? -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com Monday we watch-a Firefly's house, but he no come out. He wasn't home. Tuesday we go to the ball game, but he fool us. He no show up

Re: Update for CUA Office Public License

2004-02-19 Thread John Cowan
to convince corporate lawyers of this, hence the proliferation at opensource.org; nevertheless, standard licenses make for simplicity and uniformity, which encourage the easy use and reuse of open-source software. -- A mosquito cried out in his pain, John Cowan A chemist has poisoned my

Re: apache license 2.0 for consideration

2004-02-20 Thread John Cowan
contains answers to the questions in K R, and therefore is meaningless without it. -- Her he asked if O'Hare Doctor tidings sent from far John Cowan coast and she with grameful sigh him answered that www.ccil.org/~cowan O'Hare Doctor in heaven was. Sad was the man that word

Re: proliferation of open/free licenses: causation by what/whom?

2004-02-21 Thread John Cowan
and/or their employers. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan The known is finite, the unknown infinite; intellectually we stand on an islet in the midst of an illimitable ocean of inexplicability. Our business in every generation is to reclaim a little more land

Re: Erlang Public License

2004-02-24 Thread John Cowan
Marc van Woerkom scripsit: could you have a look at the Erlang Public License, which covers the Open Source version of Ericsson's Erlang language? It's absolutely just a variant of the MPL, with a new name, a different controlling law, and otherwise still as Open Source as ever. No worries.

Re: derivative works question

2004-02-27 Thread John Cowan
Kerry Watson scripsit: Anyway, I am trying to find out if it is acceptable to write a book about an open source software program? I am talking about a users' manual for a program that states that it is subject to the OSI terms and license. I can't tell from the language whether a book would

Re: A must read for license law

2004-03-13 Thread John Cowan
not believe (IANAL, TINLA) that the public licenses Lawyerdude refers to have anything to do with the public licenses of the open source world. He seems to be talking about the license to practice law which he no longer has. -- Values of beeta will give rise to dom! John Cowan (5th/6th edition 'mv

Re: A must read for license law

2004-03-15 Thread John Cowan
. -- There is / One art John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] No more / No less http://www.reutershealth.com To do / All things http://www.ccil.org/~cowan With art- / Lessness -- Piet Hein -- license-discuss archive is at http

Re: For Approval: Open Project Public License (OPPL)

2004-03-16 Thread John Cowan
and source code made avaiable. In that case, I suggest you consider the Open Source License or the GPL, both of which have that property. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan I come from under the hill, and under the hills and over the hills my paths led

Re: For Approval: Open Project Public License (OPPL)

2004-03-16 Thread John Cowan
depending on which version it is. And so on. I fear you are asking more than is reasonable. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.comhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan .e'osai ko sarji la lojban. Please support

Re: LAB Public License proposal

2004-03-18 Thread John Cowan
of law rules? (I.e. accepting or rejecting the renvoi?) Most U.S. contracts attempt to contract out of the renvoi. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com Micropayment advocates mistakenly believe that efficient allocation of resources is the purpose of markets

Re: OSL/AFL version 2.1 submitted for approval

2004-03-25 Thread John Cowan
to dom! John Cowan (5th/6th edition 'mv' said this if you triedhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan to rename '.' or '..' entries; see [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/odd.html) -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: Browsewrap Agreements

2004-05-11 Thread John Cowan
snarfed Register.com's data over and over, even though they should have known after the first one what the story was. The court's apple analogy is an excellent one. -- The Imperials are decadent, 300 pound John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] free-range chickens (except they have http

Re: open-source x free software

2004-05-06 Thread John Cowan
by the license 9) The program must be distributable along with programs under other licenses 10) License provisions must not depend on specific technologies -- There are three kinds of people in the world: John Cowan those who can count,http://www.reutershealth.com and those who

Re: FYI: Next draft of MySQL FLOSS license exception

2004-05-17 Thread John Cowan
://zak.greant.com:/licensing/rptview?rn=8 for a list of issues. I have sent this both direct to you and to the list. -- John Cowan www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Tis the Linux rebellion / Let coders take their place, The Linux-nationale / Shall Microsoft

Re: [off-band] Re: FYI: Next draft of MySQL FLOSS license exception

2004-05-18 Thread John Cowan
books that contain reprints of stories and articles from magazines without paying royalties to the authors of those stories and articles. Send us an email from the honor farm. -- Mark Twain on Cecil Rhodes: John Cowan I admire him, I freely admit it, http

Re: Question re attribution for derived works...

2004-05-19 Thread John Cowan
in their works, and most people who have used the BSD license since then have excluded it. -- We call nothing profound[EMAIL PROTECTED] that is not wittily expressed. John Cowan --Northrop Frye (improved) http://www.reutershealth.com

Re: Which license to use for MFC based software?

2004-06-02 Thread John Cowan
-user would not otherwise have. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com Linguistics is arguably the most hotly contested property in the academic realm. It is soaked with the blood of poets, theologians, philosophers, philologists, psychologists, biologists

Re: Which license to use for MFC based software?

2004-06-02 Thread John Cowan
on June 1, 1999. At least according to them. -- Business before pleasure, if not too bloomering long before. --Nicholas van Rijn John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan http://www.reutershealth.com -- license-discuss archive is at http

Re: Which license to use for MFC based software?

2004-06-02 Thread John Cowan
see a courtroom. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com ccil.org/~cowan Dievas dave dantis; Dievas duos duonos --Lithuanian proverb Deus dedit dentes; deus dabit panem --Latin version thereof Deity donated dentition; deity'll donate doughnuts

OT: John Cowan announces the Unix Power Classic

2004-06-03 Thread John Cowan
. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies!John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer

Re: Dual licensing

2004-06-06 Thread John Cowan
fashion. (Note that in TCATB, Eric uses cathedral to refer to a certain kind of open source software, not to closed source software.) The small one-person efforts may be more huts than cathedrals, but that does not mean they are developed by an unconventional development model. -- John Cowan

Re: Dual licensing

2004-06-08 Thread John Cowan
in a net of words. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Original line from The Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold: Only on Barrayar would pulling a loaded needler start a stampede toward one. English-to-Russian-to-English mangling thereof: Only

Re: GPL, derivative works and C++ templates

2004-06-08 Thread John Cowan
to antagonize the copyright owner if you can possibly help it. The statutory *penalties*, as opposed to the definition, of infringement are quite definite, and fearsome. (So is the price of lawyers.) -- All Gaul is divided into three parts: the part John Cowan that cooks with lard

The OSI as a critic (was: Dual licensing)

2004-06-08 Thread John Cowan
is. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan It's the old, old story. Droid meets droid. Droid becomes chameleon. Droid loses chameleon, chameleon becomes blob, droid gets blob back again. It's a classic tale. --Kryten, Red Dwarf -- license-discuss archive

Re: Dual licensing -- other wrinkles

2004-06-08 Thread John Cowan
into the commercially licensed version of your app unless the author either transfers copyright to you or gives you a license to do so -- and you can't extort consent in advance, either. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] SAXParserFactory [is] a hideous, evil

Re: Dual licensing -- other wrinkles

2004-06-08 Thread John Cowan
spit on the contributor's license, because he'll only be able to sue for actual pecuniary damages, and there are none. Of course, your ethical position is then terrible. -- Is not a patron, my Lord [Chesterfield],John Cowan one who looks with unconcern on a man http

Re: Dual licensing -- other wrinkles

2004-06-09 Thread John Cowan
for a perpetual registration, though you need to register at least each new version, if not each actual release) in order to put teeth into your license. IANAL, TINLA. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan[EMAIL PROTECTED] You tollerday donsk? N. You tolkatiff scowegian? Nn

Re: Dual licensing -- other wrinkles

2004-06-09 Thread John Cowan
whom, exactly? Anyone? Is it enough if I slip my brother-in-law a fin for passing me the software? -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [R]eversing the apostolic precept to be all things to all men, I usually [before Darwin] defended the tenability

Re: Dual licensing

2004-06-13 Thread John Cowan
a concern. -- Business before pleasure, if not too bloomering long before. --Nicholas van Rijn John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan http://www.reutershealth.com -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: Dual licensing

2004-06-13 Thread John Cowan
books, where of course there is a purely graphical resemblance as well. All those BigCos telling little web sites to take down their fanfic are skating on extremely thin ice, and they know it. -- Samuel Johnson on playing the violin: John Cowan Difficult do you call it, Sir

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-16 Thread John Cowan
under the GPL+Exception stays that way. -- We call nothing profound[EMAIL PROTECTED] that is not wittily expressed. John Cowan --Northrop Frye (improved) http://www.reutershealth.com -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-16 Thread John Cowan
excellent client tools for MySQL, which redounds to the benefit of MySQL AB. -- John Cowanhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please leave your valuesCheck your assumptions. In fact, at the front desk. check your assumptions

Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-18 Thread John Cowan
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Re: Effect of the MySQL FLOSS License Exception?

2004-06-18 Thread John Cowan
the point, but there is no debate in the copyright sense. Since none of the relevant licenses permits copying but forbids derivative works (the QPL, exceptionally, forbids the *distribution* of derivative works, but not their creation), this is a distinction without a difference. -- John Cowan [EMAIL

Re: testing kit conformance as a condition of distribution

2004-06-29 Thread John Cowan
. This is very different from the case of being allowed to reuse Sun's own code, where they may put in place any restrictions they please. -- Is a chair finely made tragic or comic? Is the John Cowan portrait of Mona Lisa good if I desire to see [EMAIL PROTECTED] it? Is the bust of Sir

Re: testing kit conformance as a condition of distribution

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
about it. A more interesting question to my mind is, would it be GPL-compatible? I think so, because it does not impose a restriction as such. -- Henry S. Thompson said, / Syntactic, structural, John Cowan Value constraints we / Express on the fly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simon St

Re: testing kit conformance as a condition of distribution

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
Kevin S. Clarke scripsit: It would need separate approval, but I see nothing open source about it. Did you drop a not here? ;-) ;-) -- You're a brave man! Go and break through the John Cowan lines, and remember while you're out there [EMAIL PROTECTED] risking life

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread John Cowan
, you are restricted from using contributed components that require this functionality as a condition of your use. You can't restrict how people use copyrighted works by reason of the copyright alone: you can only control how they copy, distribute, or modify them. -- John Cowan co...@ccil.org

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread John Cowan
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Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread John Cowan
a photocopy)? Sure, but it seems to me better to make that self-enforcing as a result of using the right kinds of licenses on the content. The default assumption is that if someone gives you content, they have the right to do so. -- John Cowanhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan co

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-06 Thread John Cowan
David Woolley scripsit: I believe that may be true in the USA. Running a computer program is restricted under UK copyright law. Technically it is copying in the U.S. too, but there is an automatic license to do such copying, as long as your possession of the software is lawful. -- John

Re: [License-discuss] Looking for a license agreement.

2011-10-07 Thread John Cowan
than creative enough to be an object of copyright. -- La mayyitan ma qadirun yatabaqqa sarmadiJohn Cowan Fa idha yaji' al-shudhdhadh fa-l-maut qad yantahi. co...@ccil.org --Abdullah al-Hazred, Al-`Azif http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: [License-discuss] TCPDF license: LGPLv3 + a special clause: is this still considered Open Source?

2011-11-24 Thread John Cowan
that. IANAL; TINLA; YYY. -- John Cowan co...@ccil.orghttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan Is it not written, That which is written, is written? ___ License-discuss mailing list License-discuss@opensource.org http://projects.opensource.org/cgi

Re: [License-discuss] GPL and proprietary WebAPIs

2011-12-21 Thread John Cowan
of NDISwrapper, the Windows drivers that it wraps are licensed to run on the hardware they are being used on, since almost every PC is licensed to run Windows whether it actually does so or not. IANAL, TINLA. -- John Cowanhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan co...@ccil.org

Re: [License-discuss] SPDX abbreviations

2011-12-21 Thread John Cowan
Luis Villa scripsit: Is there a full/formal list of those abbreviations somewhere? Would be useful to be able to point at. Thanks! http://www.spdx.org/licenses/ -- Some people open all the Windows; John Cowan wise wives welcome the spring co...@ccil.org by moving the Unix

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