[Lift] Re: git ouch

2009-05-29 Thread Oliver Lambert
I got that list of commands wrong, what I typed, was git clone g...@github.com:dpp/liftweb.git git branch wip-ol-immu git checkout wip-ol-immu git push origin wip-ol-immu When I do a git branch -a, I get two wip-ol-immu master * wip-ol-immu origin/1.0_maint origin/HEAD origin/master

[Lift] Re: git ouch

2009-05-29 Thread Heiko Seeberger
Oliver, But that's perfect! What's your problem? There is one LOCAL wip-ol-immu branch and one REMOTE. That's how it is expected to be for a branch you pushed. Heiko 2009/5/29 Oliver Lambert olambo...@gmail.com I got that list of commands wrong, what I typed, was git clone

[Lift] Re: git ouch

2009-05-29 Thread Oliver Lambert
I have a problem with breaking a build on my first attempt of working with git. I'm happy if I haven't, but what was concerning me was in the included image (the network line looks like wip-ol-immu is directly next to master, rather than on a separate branch - if this is normal, Im happy) On Fri,

[Lift] Record with the new bind-immutable

2009-05-29 Thread Marius
Oliver, I very briefly looked on your code and I saw that you have your own validator there. How would that play with the existent validattors that Record has where each field has a list of : type ValidationFunction = MyType = Box[Node] Note that current MetaRecord's validator after evaluating

[Lift] Re: git ouch

2009-05-29 Thread Heiko Seeberger
Hm, never looked at those images before. But I guess it is OK. Heiko 2009/5/29 Oliver Lambert olambo...@gmail.com I have a problem with breaking a build on my first attempt of working with git. I'm happy if I haven't, but what was concerning me was in the included image (the network line

[Lift] Re: Record with the new bind-immutable

2009-05-29 Thread Oliver Lambert
I'm aware of S.error and my ValidationError uses it when I'm ready to show errors. I've briefly looked at the ValidationFunction and the thing I might stumble on is the errorType which I rely on. I may be able to refactor the code to use List[FieldError] as I don't think I rely on errorType at

[Lift] Re: Record with the new bind-immutable

2009-05-29 Thread marius d.
I see ... still the question remains. What are we going to do with two validators? I'd like to understand the principles of your addition (... I know I should have dig into the code but I don't have much time now). I'd like to understand as I said previously if we have redundant validators or

[Lift] Re: git ouch

2009-05-29 Thread Timothy Perrett
Oliver, There are detailed instructions on the committer mailing list as to how to create a remote branch for lift. For reference, I include them here (originally from Mr Weir, so credit to him for being the git master!): **Creating a Remote Branch** 1. Create the remote branch git push origin

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Timothy Perrett
Are there any performance implications considering closures vs annotations? Agreed that closures are more lift like however. Cheers, Tim On 29/05/2009 10:21, marius d. marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote: I think that would be really good. But I'd rather not use annotations. Personally I find

[Lift] Re: git ouch

2009-05-29 Thread Timothy Perrett
We use the committer list to discuss process orientated things like when we are going to do a release, issue management, who's working on what tasks etc etc. Its a private - committer only group that is not publicly viewable. I'll touch base with you off list :-) Cheers, Tim On May 29, 12:35 

[Lift] Re: How to disable jQuery from lift application?

2009-05-29 Thread Narayanaswamy, Mohan
I will try to send one, But Google API was failing while trying to load banner. Google just released those api's. Mohan -Original Message- From: liftweb@googlegroups.com [mailto:lift...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Narayanaswamy, Mohan Sent: 28 May 2009 00:32 To: Lift Subject:

[Lift] Re: Record with the new bind-immutable

2009-05-29 Thread Oliver Lambert
Hi Marius, To try and answer your question, I had to go and look at the Record code in more detail. I hadn't recently written the Binder Validator, so it wasn't designed to be complementary to anything else (however, some of the naming and methodology is very similar in both sets of code). What I

[Lift] Re: Record with the new bind-immutable

2009-05-29 Thread David Pollak
One thing I've been thinking about is optionally extending the Validator Functions to also emit JavaScript that would perform the validation in the browser... that would provide a seamless way to do client-side validation for validators (e.g., min len, max len, regex) that only rely on client-side

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Jonas Bonér
No perf difference. The annotations are turned into the same exact closures. 2009/5/29 Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu: Are there any performance implications considering closures vs annotations? Agreed that closures are more lift like however. Cheers, Tim On 29/05/2009 10:21,

[Lift] Re: How to disable jQuery from lift application?

2009-05-29 Thread David Pollak
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Narayanaswamy, Mohan mohan.narayanasw...@credit-suisse.com wrote: I will try to send one, But Google API was failing while trying to load banner. I suspect the problem is that Lift renders pages as strict XHTML and sets the mime type of responses to be

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Derek Chen-Becker
I'd vote for closures. We use annotations for JPA because we have to, but IMHO closures provide a nicer semantic approach because they syntactically enclose the block where the action is occurring. Derek On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Jonas Bonér jbo...@gmail.com wrote: No perf difference.

[Lift] Re: Record with the new bind-immutable

2009-05-29 Thread Oliver Lambert
That would be very cool On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:37 PM, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I've been thinking about is optionally extending the Validator Functions to also emit JavaScript that would perform the validation in the browser... that would provide a

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Jonas Bonér
I'll go for closures. Much simpler and less intrusive into Lift. The current impl is based on Atomikos and Hibernate, I'll start with pushing that in and we can make it pluggable later. For example for Hibernate one need to add a line to the hibernate config to register the

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Timothy Perrett
Committers can work on branches. The general solution is that if you are working on something that is new or dangerous use a branch with the following naming convention: wip-name-feature E.g. wip-tim-localization Checkout the thread oliver started git ouch - I just posted instructions there

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Derek Chen-Becker
Create a branch (see Oliver's recent thread) and push that. We cna look at the branch before merging into master. Branching is preferred over forking because it keeps things in the same stream. Derek On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Jonas Bonér jbo...@gmail.com wrote: I'll go for closures.

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Jonas Bonér
Thanks Tim and Derek. I'll work in a branch. Simpler for me as well. /Jonas 2009/5/29 Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu: Committers can work on branches. The general solution is that if you are working on something that is new or dangerous use a branch with the following naming

[Lift] How important is AJAX to you?

2009-05-29 Thread Joe Wass
This may be heresy on this list, but I'll ask it anyway. A general point for discussion which I'm raising because the Lift Book mentions AJAX early on in the PocketChange app. How important is AJAX and all the associated Web 2.0 stuff to you and to your projects? I'm quite happy without

[Lift] Re: How important is AJAX to you?

2009-05-29 Thread David Pollak
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Jeremy Day jeremy@gmail.com wrote: All, I have a slightly related question. I'm new to the list and a complete newbie to Lift (having only discovered it a couple of days ago), so forgive me for the potentially silly question. Can you use Lift with Flex

[Lift] Re: How important is AJAX to you?

2009-05-29 Thread David Pollak
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Joe Wass j...@folktunefinder.com wrote: This may be heresy on this list, but I'll ask it anyway. A general point for discussion which I'm raising because the Lift Book mentions AJAX early on in the PocketChange app. How important is AJAX and all the

[Lift] Re: How important is AJAX to you?

2009-05-29 Thread Timothy Perrett
Appreciate you are a busy man David, but from a community perspective I think it would be awesome if you could pour some of your brain into a whitepaper on this subject ­ your very right, its a key take away and an important part of lifts ³sales pitch² as it were. Cheers, Tim On 29/05/2009

[Lift] Re: How important is AJAX to you?

2009-05-29 Thread marius d.
You can use Lift perfectly fine without Ajax, javaScript or even cookies. If you're turning off cookies from the container relative paths for links, forms etc. will be provided with JSESSIONID quantity for you so you don't have to do anything. This is otherwise known as URL rewriting. So you can

[Lift] Re: How important is AJAX to you?

2009-05-29 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday May 29 2009, Joe Wass wrote: ... Have I missed the point of Lift entirely? Am I in a small minority? Am I crazy? Perhaps. Perhaps. Probably not (but who really knows?) Seriously, my interest in Lift (and Grails before it—don't shoot me) is in providing what I call BBIs

[Lift] Re: How to disable jQuery from lift application?

2009-05-29 Thread Charles F. Munat
The thing that doesn't work, IIRC, is that application/xhtml+xml doesn't allow document.write(). The Google code (foolishly, IMO) depends on write() to write script elements to the page. For some things you can work around it by simply removing the use of write and just adding the script

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Charles F. Munat
I agree. Derek Chen-Becker wrote: I'd vote for closures. We use annotations for JPA because we have to, but IMHO closures provide a nicer semantic approach because they syntactically enclose the block where the action is occurring. Derek On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Jonas Bonér

[Lift] Re: How important is AJAX to you?

2009-05-29 Thread Charles F. Munat
Lift makes AJAX easy, but Lift has nothing to do with AJAX. Lift makes a lot of things easy. I've built half a dozen sites in Lift so far, with several more in the works, and most of them use no AJAX at all. That said, there is a lot to be said for AJAX when used properly. I think you're way

[Lift] Re: GAE - working example?

2009-05-29 Thread glenn
The ant target, runappserver, is an ant macro included with the gae sdk. It does the same thing that dev_appserver does. The problem I'm having is that the HelloWorld.howdy snippet is suppose to return spana href=?login=Log in/a/span but it doesn't. The only thing displayed is liHomeli I can

[Lift] Re: GAE - working example?

2009-05-29 Thread glenn
Forget that last post. I got it working. I had template tag error in my code. Glenn... On May 28, 1:39 pm, denew de...@clear.net.nz wrote: I'm using maven for builds, so I can't help with your Ant process, but you need to start the appengine with something like:

[Lift] Dependent fields in form

2009-05-29 Thread feelgood
Is it real to create form with dependent field? Suppose whe have two select boxes: for the country and for the city. It would be quite good, if country selection trigger updating of the cities list. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[Lift] LiftOff

2009-05-29 Thread Meredith Gregory
David, i didn't realize the LiftOff conflicted with a long-planned participation in a Guitar Craft course. i will definitely send good will and good wishes to the community. i'm certain you guys will have much too much fun. Maybe i can organize some kind of functional-computing-and-the-web event

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Timothy Perrett
Wow, that I would very much like to see... using for comprehensions for transactions! Cheers, Tim Sent from my iPhone On 29 May 2009, at 23:54, Meredith Gregory lgreg.mered...@gmail.com wrote: Jonas, i applaud the effort. i agree with DPP sentiments regarding annotations. That said,

[Lift] Re: How important is AJAX to you?

2009-05-29 Thread Meredith Gregory
Joe, i love questions like this: 'what are the real requirements?' i have no particular interest in technology like AJAX -- except as a means to an end. i need to be able to build sites that are the web's equivalent of CSCW apps from the late 80s/early 90s. In the web apps i'm working on users

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Jorge Ortiz
I, too, would like to see Transactions be monadic. --j On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Meredith Gregory lgreg.mered...@gmail.comwrote: Jonas, i applaud the effort. i agree with DPP sentiments regarding annotations. That said, i feel pretty comfortable that transactions fit entirely in a

[Lift] Re: LiftOff

2009-05-29 Thread Charles F. Munat
Rats. Meredith Gregory wrote: David, i didn't realize the LiftOff conflicted with a long-planned participation in a Guitar Craft course. i will definitely send good will and good wishes to the community. i'm certain you guys will have much too much fun. Maybe i can organize some kind

[Lift] Re: JTA

2009-05-29 Thread Josh Suereth
+30 So many pluses in fact, that we are already experimenting with this concept at work. Unfortunately, the source may not be openable. I'd be more than willing to contribute to an open-source JTA monadic library. for( tx - context) { //Do stuff if(somethingBad)