Re: [Lightning-dev] TOR enabled dynamic Proof of Work defense for onion services

2023-08-28 Thread Antoine Riard
Hi Rene, > In their technical document [1] they mention that their new patch cannot defend against a large botnet and suggest that anonymous credentials [2] among other techniques should be investigated. >From my memory, mitigating channel jamming with dynamic proof-of-work (e.g bip154) was

Re: [Lightning-dev] Nucleus: Capital-efficient multipeer Lightning payment channels

2023-08-28 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning Mr Nuclear, > You are correct that the design relies on the honest majority assumption. > However, I disagree that it restricts the usability of the proposal, > due to the following considerations. > > 1. Any distributed system consensus, including bitcoin PoW consensus, > relies

Re: [Lightning-dev] TOR enabled dynamic Proof of Work defense for onion services

2023-08-28 Thread Pavol Rusnak via Lightning-dev
Maybe the anonymous credentials approach from [2] could use credentials loaded with sats? On Mon 28. 8. 2023 at 0:36, René Pickhardt wrote: > Dear fellow Lightning Network developers, > > given the congestion problems with channels (aka jamming) that we are > facing and the various proposals

Re: [Lightning-dev] Disclosure: Fake channel DoS vector

2023-08-28 Thread Bastien TEINTURIER
Hey Matt, Great work on finding this issue, thoroughly testing it against implementations, and on the follow-up you did after reporting this to the various teams. We all agree that having more people spending time poking at the code to find issues is very beneficial for the project. I hope your

Re: [Lightning-dev] Disclosure: Fake channel DoS vector

2023-08-28 Thread Antoine Riard
Hi Matt, > You've definitely done some review for some subset of code, mostly the anchors code which was added > not too long ago, but please don't pretend you've reviewed a large volume of the pull requests in > LDK, as far as I understand you have several other projects you focus heavily on,

Re: [Lightning-dev] Disclosure: Fake channel DoS vector

2023-08-28 Thread Matt Corallo
On 8/26/23 5:03 AM, Antoine Riard wrote: Hi Matt, > While you were aware of these fixes at the time, I'd appreciate it if you, someone who hasn't spent > much time contributing to LDK over the past two or three years, stop trying to speak on behalf of > the LDK project. While this

Re: [Lightning-dev] Disclosure: Fake channel DoS vector

2023-08-28 Thread Antoine Riard
Hi Matt, > While you were aware of these fixes at the time, I'd appreciate it if you, someone who hasn't spent > much time contributing to LDK over the past two or three years, stop trying to speak on behalf of > the LDK project. While this statement is blatantly false and disregards all the