Re: Enhancement: Page breaking to avoid widow lines

2010-01-13 Thread Joe Neeman
On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 11:58 -0500, b...@shingarov.com wrote: Here is a proposed patch to add functionality to the Page Spacer. When typesetting large quantities of markup lines, Lilypond currently does not try to avoid widowed/orphaned lines. Some publishers will consider this an

Re: more translation breakage

2010-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 02:24 +0100, John Mandereau a écrit : Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 01:19 +0100, Francisco Vila a écrit : I've just pushed the translated Essay into the lilypond/translation branch but I don't know how to make new files distributable or what GNUMakefile to copy

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:52 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: I've never had to to do it, as I rarely use the git bash command line for git work. I can do virtually everything in git gui or gitk, which cut and paste normally in both Windows and Unix. Can you really

Re: more translation breakage

2010-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 00:32 +, Graham Percival a écrit : Given that John's fix *should* have worked (adding stuff to one of the stepmake/ or make/ files), but didn't, It worked for me in a in-tree 'make dist', but I just noticed it failed in a out-of-tree dist because a leading

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 09:27 +, Trevor Daniels a écrit : In gitk (in either Unix or Windows) you can only copy/paste within the fields that you can highlight. The include only the SHA1 ID and the Find fields, I think. You can also copy (but not paste) from the commit content

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:41 AM 1) Right-click on the title-bar of the Git Bash window 2) Select Edit Mark 3) Left-click and drag your selection. 4) Press enter to copy it to the clipboard. I have never tried GIT on Windows, but if the window in question is a normal

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:21 AM Trevor Daniels wrote I never did it - with git gui you never need an editor. It has a pane specifically for displaying, entering and editing commit messages. It also has an Amend Last Commit button which was the only form of rebase -i

Re: more translation breakage

2010-01-13 Thread Francisco Vila
2010/1/13 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: However, it would be nice if you didn't put into public Git history commits that do nothing else than copying files from English docs and didn't make an extra personal branch appear, e.g. by doing git checkout lilypond/translation # pull

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:44 AM Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 =C3=A0 09:27 +, Trevor Daniels a =C3=A9crit= In gitk (in either Unix or Windows) you can only copy/paste within the fields that you can highlight. The include only the SHA1 ID and the Find fields, I

Re: texinfo filesize limit?

2010-01-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:56:17PM -0800, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote:  git-starting.itexi 1076L, 35094C That's trivially small. music-glossary.tely is 8755 lines. I wouldn't worry about, just as long as the texinfo files

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote: Okay, here's a patch.  Obviously, there's more work to be done, but it might be good to get the re-structuring stuff out of the way.  `make' succeeded and `make doc' is still going, but I'm off to bed. Looks mostly

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 12:20 +, Graham Percival a écrit : - I'm not positive, but I believe that we put punctuation outside @q{} brackets. If you want to change this policy, we can discuss it, but please don't just go changing things inside the hu/ translation. Indeed; Mark,

Re: more translation breakage

2010-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 10:56 +0100, Francisco Vila a écrit : 2010/1/13 John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com: git checkout lilypond/translation # pull lilypond/translation, whatever the command is for you git diff paco |git apply --whitespace=fix git add NEW_FILES # only in case

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:12 AM Patrick McCarty wrote: Most of the time, on GNU/Linux, I copy and paste by highlighting the text to copy, and then middle-clicking where I want to paste. For no explicable reason, I just assumed that wouldn't work in gitk. But it does

Re: Enhancement: Page breaking to avoid widow lines

2010-01-13 Thread Boris Shingarov
Joe, Paper_book::get_system_specs then you wouldn't even need the markup-list-id property: you could add an avoid-orphan property that only gets set for the last line of a multi-line markup list if it is short. That might also simplify Page_spacer::calc_subproblem. This is the first idea

Re: developer newsletter

2010-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 10 janvier 2010 à 13:35 +, Graham Percival a écrit : Yeah, but 80% of the time, that person is me. And I'm doing major changes to the build system that could potentially screw up other people. When major developers (be it John in relation to translation stuff, Carl about new

Re: developer newsletter

2010-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 10 janvier 2010 à 11:05 -0800, Mark Polesky a écrit : I was thinking the same thing. What if we all agree to prepend an exclamation mark (!) to the subject line? Keep in mind that threads can become significant long after the first post. Putting a ! in front will be easy to see

Re: Enhancement: Page breaking to avoid widow lines

2010-01-13 Thread Joe Neeman
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 09:11 -0500, Boris Shingarov wrote: Joe, Paper_book::get_system_specs then you wouldn't even need the markup-list-id property: you could add an avoid-orphan property that only gets set for the last line of a multi-line markup list if it is short. That might also

A name for 2.14?

2010-01-13 Thread Francisco Vila
Hello, if a nickname for 2.14 is still to be found, I'd like to propose Taupin for Daniel Taupin. http://www.google.com/search?source=igrlz==q=daniel+taupin He did not contribute directly to LilyPond, but made a big effort towards free music engraving before LP was born. -- Francisco Vila.

Re: A name for 2.14?

2010-01-13 Thread Graham Percival
I don't think we should be in the habit of naming all our releases after people. Cheers, - Graham On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: Hello, if a nickname for 2.14 is still to be found, I'd like to propose Taupin for Daniel Taupin.

2.12.3-2 released, gub patches

2010-01-13 Thread Graham Percival
ok, I've uploaded 2.12.3-2, and a quick glance at the web docs looks like they work. If anybody cares about 2.12, CHECK IT NOW. I am going to be even more pissed off if somebody comes along in a few weeks and asks for anything else to do with 2.12. My gub tree includes a ridiculous number of

Re: developer newsletter

2010-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 15:15 +0100, John Mandereau a écrit : Another thing that we could do instead of creating another list is writing down as a specification (even written quite informally) the important changes already started i.e. the i18n of Texinfo, stuff specific to building the

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:20 PM On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote: Okay, here's a patch. - you've reverted some of the ``foo'' - @qq{foo} changes in essay. Why? - I'm not positive, but I believe that we put

Re: [PATCH] Doc: CG: Sending and receiving git patches via email

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thanks Joe Mark is currently redrafting this section of the CG and it seems he has picked up and applied your changes in his latest patch. Is that right, Mark? Trevor - Original Message - From: Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net To: lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: 2.12.3-2 released, gub patches

2010-01-13 Thread Francisco Vila
2010/1/13 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: ok, I've uploaded 2.12.3-2, and a quick glance at the web docs looks like they work. Yes. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: (bug?) irregular lyrics distance in 2.13.10

2010-01-13 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 17:02:18 schrieb David Kastrup: Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de writes: Wilbert Berendsen wrote: LilyPond 2.12.2 and 2.13.1 display the Lyrics lines correctly, at regular distances. It seems the new vertical

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: Looks mostly good. - you've reverted some of the ``foo'' - @qq{foo} changes in essay. Why? Freaky. I didn't touch essay. How did that happen? I see Trevor has some theories... Oh, I see now that Francisco was doing some work there. I must not have rebased at the

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Mark Polesky
Trevor Daniels wrote: Mark is currently redrafting this section of the CG and it seems he has picked up and applied your changes in his latest patch. Is that right, Mark? Yep. Thanks Joe! - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 02:24:58PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 12:20 +, Graham Percival a écrit : Also, please use @q{} in the @section name. ... actually, could we just sidestep the whole issue by removing the quotes entirely? @node Using lily-git

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 08:32:28AM -0800, Mark Polesky wrote: Graham Percival wrote: - elsewhere in the docs, we use foo -- bar, not foo---bar. I don't pretend to be authoritative about the difference, though. I've read that the typographical ideal is: word, hair-space, em-dash,

Re: Enhancement: Page breaking to avoid widow lines

2010-01-13 Thread Boris Shingarov
Here is the new code -- implementing all that's been discussed. (Ok, not quite all -- the line length functionality is not implemented, but all the style remarks have been taken into account, the markup-list-id has been replaced with is-last-line, penalty made configurable, and also, (new,

GUB buiding from a local source tree?

2010-01-13 Thread Boris Shingarov
Hi, How do I tell GUB to build Lilypond from a modified source tree which I have locally, instead of getting it from git? In general, where is the best place to start reading more on GUB, the info on the GUB page is very sketchy, and GUB-related messages on lilypond-devel seem far apart and

Re: GUB buiding from a local source tree?

2010-01-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 02:51:47PM -0500, Boris Shingarov wrote: How do I tell GUB to build Lilypond from a modified source tree which I have locally, instead of getting it from git? Wow, you're brave! Look at lilypond.make; I believe you'll want something like make -f lilypond.make

Re: GUB buiding from a local source tree?

2010-01-13 Thread Boris Shingarov
Oh, and make sure you're using the latest GUB; IIRC there are 2 or 3 different git repositories floating around. You want the one at github. git://github.com/janneke/gub.git -- this one, right? I believe you'll want something like make -f lilypond.make LILYPOND_REPO=/location/of/your/tree

Re: (bug?) irregular lyrics distance in 2.13.10

2010-01-13 Thread Joe Neeman
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 17:21 +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 17:02:18 schrieb David Kastrup: Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de writes: Wilbert Berendsen wrote: LilyPond 2.12.2 and 2.13.1 display the Lyrics lines

Fix DynamicTextSpanner left alignment. (issue186112)

2010-01-13 Thread joeneeman
lgtm http://codereview.appspot.com/186112 ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: (bug?) irregular lyrics distance in 2.13.10

2010-01-13 Thread Alexander Kobel
Joe Neeman wrote: Am Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 17:02:18 schrieb David Kastrup: That's basically the approach taken by Joe for spacing staves: Place the center lines minimum-spacing apart, except if the skylines would (almost?) overlap (including a padding). In the latter case add space until

Re: (bug?) irregular lyrics distance in 2.13.10

2010-01-13 Thread Joe Neeman
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 23:12 +0100, Alexander Kobel wrote: Joe Neeman wrote: Am Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 17:02:18 schrieb David Kastrup: That's basically the approach taken by Joe for spacing staves: Place the center lines minimum-spacing apart, except if the skylines would (almost?)

Re: Enhancement: Page breaking to avoid widow lines

2010-01-13 Thread Joe Neeman
Here is the new code -- implementing all that's been discussed. (Ok, not quite all -- the line length functionality is not implemented, but all the style remarks have been taken into account, the markup-list-id has been replaced with is-last-line, penalty made configurable, and also,

Re: (bug?) irregular lyrics distance in 2.13.10

2010-01-13 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op donderdag 14 januari 2010 schreef Joe: So it should just be a matter of finding the right default for minimum-distance. From my experimentation, 3.2 is a fine default value I think. 3 is a little tight, 3.5 a little white :) Thanks for the very fine vertical spacing controls! best