Re: Fwd: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 02:53:58PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Make a ponding of the award, and point to the contest site (if any) for the details.  Like the awarded sum.  I'd find it weird to flash numbers on our main

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:59:49AM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:19 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: What about a real-life meeting?  There will be a GNU conference in Dusseldorf (west Germany) in second half of

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 01:57:08AM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: i suggest to discuss some communication guidelines, for example don't say It's settled then until there's more than 1 day of discussion and not all concerns have been addressed, even if you think that the decision is obvious. I

Re: Plan for discussions

2012-05-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 08:20:57PM +0200, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: May I propose a workaround, just in order to mix business with pleasure: Why not trying to have one meeting per continent at the same time, with a daily hour on IRC with everybody? We tried that almost a year ago:

Plan for discussions

2012-05-10 Thread Graham Percival
Spent yesterday wandering around Kloten, the old town part of Zurich, and looking at stain-glass windows. Spent this morning walking along Uetliberg, a series of hills right next to the city. Travel advice: skip the city and culture, just go straight to the Alps. Ok, maybe Uetliberg isn't high

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 11:00:39AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: James pkx1...@gmail.com writes: Evidence? 'skip' is exactly what it says on the tin. But we are not talking about \skip (which actually would have the advantage of _not_ tampering with the current duration in the parser, and

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 11:04:50AM +0100, Ian Hulin wrote: Hi all, Point of information: On 07/05/12 10:29, Graham Percival wrote: A number of people think that is the ideal tool for a non-duration post-event. James and I disagree; we think that a different tool (such as a new

Re: Ponding croaks

2012-05-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 10:05:45AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com writes: It's important that these things lend credibility to LilyPond. Yes. Not necessarily time-specific, either. IMO something like The East Anglican Choir of Upper North-West

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:54:49PM +0100, James wrote: On 7 May 2012 20:32, Nicolas Sceaux nicolas.sce...@gmail.com wrote: Now that this is settled, Oh that's ok then. I'll get my coat. Yep. I don't understand why David's proposition, which is both cheap and neat, faced such

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 08:58:11AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:57 AM In fact, isn't generally prettier than s1*0? Should we be using it in code and documentation rather than s1*0? Definitely prettier, but maybe not so transparent as s1*0. +1

Re: Your Gnu package lilypond

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 05:15:59AM -0400, John Darrington wrote: Thank you for your very comprehensive reply, which inspired me to look at the lilypond website. It is indeed very elaborate and certainly gives a very professional impression. (There are however a few terminology issues which I

Re: how to remove a file

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 05:32:08PM +0200, Federico Bruni wrote: I made a try: $ git rm Documentation/it/texidocs/piano-template-with-centered-dynamics.texidoc error: 'Documentation/it/texidocs/piano-template-with-centered-dynamics.texidoc' has local modifications (use --cached to keep

translators: fix your open source mistranslations

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
I have a bit more information about the terminology problems. Although the English website is relatively ok (I remember specifically thinking about free software vs. open source while writing it -- but Janek should still fix the little bits I missed), some translations are wrong. For example, On

Re: Intregrating lilypond.pot update to 'make release'

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 06:19:42PM +0200, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: What you'll find in the enclosed patch is an attempt to adapt 'make po-replace' in order to have an automatically well-formed .pot included in 'make dist'. Please upload patches to rietveld with git-cl, as specified here:

Re: translators: fix your open source mistranslations

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:02:20PM +0200, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: Just two instances in GSoC node that I'm not sure they should be transformed: fr (translation)]$ git grep -n 'open source' web/community.itexi:930:étudiants pour écrire du code au bénéfice de projets @emph{open

Re: translators: fix your open source mistranslations

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 09:36:38PM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: 2012/5/6 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: So I guess those shouldn't be changed, and if that's it in the French translation then I guess you're fine. We have in English http://lilypond.org/freedom.html “Gift

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 10:17:05PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: I've no objection to the docs being changed to use an empty chord but its semantics will need to be introduced somewhere. The best place is probably the LM, in 2.2.4 Combining notes into chords. I'm still not happy with an

Re: Regarding LSR translation work

2012-05-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 10:35:02AM +0200, Federico Bruni wrote: Il 25/04/2012 12:04, Graham Percival ha scritto: [..] I'm trying to learn Python and I'd like to contribute to some frog tasks requiring python (I've starred some frog issues in the tracker). Probably this is too much

Re: Development status of midi output in 2.15.38

2012-05-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 09:57:07AM +0700, Michael Pozhidaev wrote: After the last announce I have tried the linux x86_64 binary package of lilypond-2.15.38 to see what is going to be in 2.16. It works but I met some regressions in midi output comparing with 2.14.2 currently I am working with.

Re: Spanish pondings

2012-05-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:33:05PM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: On 4 mai 2012, at 14:29, Francisco Vila wrote: 734f525 Web-es: Really make Spanish Pondings work. 278124f Web-es: make Spanish Pondings work. Are those changes too invasive? Yes. I don't think it's a good idea to

built dist failure

2012-05-02 Thread Graham Percival
file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.15.38/Documentation/web/server/tweets.xml rm -rf /tmp/tmpuq4W6b Traceback (most recent call last): File test-lily/dist-check.py, line 137, in module main () File test-lily/dist-check.py, line 132, in main check_files (tarball, repo) File

Re: assistant release manger

2012-04-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:42:16AM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: OK, Phil, I'll take over as Bug Meister. Is [1] still an accurate summary of the responsibilities? Yes, but one possibly-unwritten job for the bug squad is to check the regtest comparison whenever there's a release. That is

Re: [PATCH] Change autobot comment from LGTM to passes tests.

2012-04-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 02:26:41PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Turns out I don't seem to have push privileges: What's your github username? - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: [PATCH] Change autobot comment from LGTM to passes tests.

2012-04-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 03:25:56PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: What's your github username? I don't think I have an account at github. You may wish to consider making one, given how many lilypond sub-projects are there: https://github.com

Re: [PATCH] Change autobot comment from LGTM to passes tests.

2012-04-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 04:12:37PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Well, I can always submit patches. I don't really fancy registering with services that claim that they can change terms of use without announcement, with any subsequent use signifying consent to the changed terms. oh, I wouldn't

Re: Lilypond patchy and other Lilypond problems

2012-04-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:14:23AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: Then we'll have hard numbers on which developers are abusing the process. I mean, sure, we all know whose patches tend to be great and whose patches tend to be problematic

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:26:16AM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: On 27 avr. 2012, at 08:07, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 07:09:39AM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: I'd be good to set a precedent for this now so that LilyPond can apply to other software

assistant release manger

2012-04-28 Thread Graham Percival
Given how things are going, it's past time that we have somebody else that can make releases. Who's interested in learning? Requirements: - powerful computer - can already compile GUB from scratch - is well known to lilypond developers (say, at least 1 year of lilypond development) - familiar

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:01:27AM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: On 28 avr. 2012, at 09:15, Graham Percival wrote: So... you *don't* want to set a precedent; you just want a quick answer about this specific case? I guess the general consensus is go ahead and we'll figure it out

Re: Lilypond patchy and other Lilypond problems

2012-04-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:13:50AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: In fact, if you have to do half a dozen of iterations before getting things actually right on the somewhat more than superficial level provided by our tests, you'll have gained lots of good Karma on the road. I was thinking that

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 07:09:39AM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: I'd be good to set a precedent for this now so that LilyPond can apply to other software competitions in the future. *sigh* I'll rehash an old email. I know that some of us would like to get paid for lilypond work.

Re: Lilypond patchy and other Lilypond problems

2012-04-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:28:54AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: There is no reason whatsoever that this should only be done by a single person. Totally! I would expect that _every_ person contributing more than two patches per month should be able, after uploading a patch, to be running

Re: Add announcements to the upper right corner of the website (issue 6068045)

2012-04-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 09:19:55AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Is it possilble to display the contents of the twitter #lilypond hashtag and/or @lilypond twitter account in an iframe instead? If we use actual twitter, we would get some publicity on twitter.com too. It's certainly possible,

Re: Add announcements to the upper right corner of the website (issue 6068045)

2012-04-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:18:23AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: Who is GNU_LilyPond anyway?  I thought it was, but I might be mistaken. I mean: I thought it was Jan. yeah, it's Jan. - Graham

Re: 30 day webathon for kickstarter support (issue 6068045)

2012-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
\ \href=\http://www.ensemble101.fr\;here/a to learn more! - The Birmingham Amateur Theatre is presenting Penzance Pirates, starring our documentation editor Trevor Daniels as the talking lion![1] - Project manager Graham Percival has successfully defended his PhD thesis. Only two days

Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046)

2012-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 08:05:53AM +0100, James wrote: Hello, On 26 April 2012 07:55, m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com wrote: I have a meeting in mid-May w/ the University of Paris VIII.  They're donating a computer to LilyPond and I'll set patchy up on it. While you can set

Re: What's with the test-patches volunteers?

2012-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:07:32AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: I am afraid that you overestimate what I have been doing. I've been running test-patches and looking at pretty pictures. You've done more than that; you occasionally say this looks like a silly design or why not do XYZ instead.

Re: announcing things like Mike's tour in News column?

2012-04-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 09:33:03PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Well then, let's have some important project news posted. I'll write a note about GSoC, yes. and i think we can make an announcement when MikeJoe

Re: what shall we do with GSOC subpage on the website?

2012-04-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:14:24PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 4/24/12 2:31 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: I see two possibilities: - change it to projects or something like that. I think it would be useful to have such a list No. Such projects lists are a pain to

Re: Regarding LSR translation work

2012-04-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:28:21PM +0200, Federico Bruni wrote: 2012/4/24 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: 2) ask the LSR author to add the possibility to insert translated titles and descriptions (the website itself could benefit from this, since it may enable language negotiation

Re: announcing things like Mike's tour in News column?

2012-04-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:00:43PM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: On 25 avr. 2012, at 11:53, Graham Percival wrote: If you really really want to have fluff pieces on the main lilypond website, I could imagine us using the top right-hand corner (Mike's wasted space) for twitter-like

Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046)

2012-04-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 01:44:14PM +0200, Łukasz Czerwiński wrote: As I understand, fixxcc.py will correct that automatically, so I don't have to bother about that? Nevertheless I'll remember that for my future patches. fixcc.py can correct those, but this adds noise to the git commit

Re: What's with the test-patches volunteers?

2012-04-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 03:06:00PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: I agree. Given your limited computing power, you are the very last person who should be running Patchy. It is not just my computing resources that make me unsuitable. I

Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046)

2012-04-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 03:14:33PM +0200, Łukasz Czerwiński wrote: I know that this is not a very positive message, but I am trying to save you yet more anguish. Â The lilypond project currently does not even function smoothly between senior developers with more than 100

Re: Regarding LSR translation work

2012-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:52:55AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: 3) Graham is wrong when he says writing snippets is not a good introduction to lilypond. I started by doing a fair few that documented undocumented features shown in the regtests. Sorry, I came on too strong there. I didn't mean to

Re: What's with the test-patches volunteers?

2012-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 07:17:06AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: It is close to two months that I have been the only person running test-patches, even though several volunteers claimed they would do so. It has been the main reason I shelled out €20 for a

Re: GSoC

2012-04-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 08:40:30PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: It's great to have you working on GSoC for LilyPond! Good job with your perseverance in getting your project accepted! This, especially. It's great to see that sometimes lots of effort is rewarded! Congratulations, Janek! -

Re: Regarding LSR translation work

2012-04-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:04:57AM +0200, Federico Bruni wrote: Il 21/04/2012 13:09, Graham Percival ha scritto: Because snippets come from LSR, and that needs a texidoc to display some text for the snippet. So it seems that there are only two possible solutions (I'm just daydreaming): 1

Re: Regarding LSR translation work

2012-04-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:33:49AM +0100, James wrote: Err.. not sure what you mean by that technically but it's complicated enough with snippets as it is, to follow the translation method adds even more complexity (if the CG is anything to go by). +1 We want to encourage contributors not

Re: State of the pond

2012-04-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:27:20AM -0700, Adam Spiers wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Trying to anticipate future problems, I recalled guile indentation: http://codereview.appspot.com/4896043/ I would be happy to tackle

Re: State of the pond

2012-04-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 07:38:06PM +0200, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: Le 19/04/2012 21:30, Graham Percival disait : - nobody touches the release/unstable branch, other than translators, who may merge with that if they want to and don't break anything. The question of whether

Re: announcing things like Mike's tour in News column?

2012-04-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 05:16:45PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:56 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: It reflects the news entries in the repository.  When a new LilyPond Report appears, it _is_ announced there. Yes, it is. However, in the last 20 months only

Re: PATCH: Countdown to 20120422

2012-04-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 06:54:45AM -0600, Colin Campbell wrote: On 12-04-20 12:36 AM, Federico Bruni wrote: can you please tell me if it's normal that my patch has been ignored? It's a very trivial patch, maybe I didn't follow the right procedure? Hi Federico, Please follow this procedure in

Re: PATCH: Countdown to 20120422

2012-04-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 07:14:24AM -0600, Colin Campbell wrote: To amplify my reply to Federico: if developers create similar tracker items and attach a trivial patch without creating a Rietveld issue, it would be very helpful if they would update the tracker item as patch-new or perhaps even

Re: 30 day webathon for kickstarter support (issue 6068045)

2012-04-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 04:40:08PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: mts...@gmail.com writes: We have a sweet plug in the project video for GNU LilyPond and I was wondering if I could strike up a partnership with LilyPond to put a link to the project on the LilyPond front page for the duration

State of the pond

2012-04-19 Thread Graham Percival
We have a new release candidate, slower development, highlights on development problems, and a vacation. RELEASE CANDIDATE As always, this means: - activity on master goes on as normal. - nobody touches the release/unstable branch, other than translators, who may merge with that if they

Re: State of the pond

2012-04-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:52:55PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: SLOWER DEVELOPMENT Development has slowed to a trickle. I'm not certain if this is I am partly responsible. A power-law function for development work is certainly predicted

Re: git fetch with Lily-git.tcl

2012-04-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:01:15PM +0100, James wrote: I kept a few mails that David sent a few months back and he suggested git fetch --depth=100 David was wrong. [correction: or rather, David was answering the question you asked, not the question you should have been asking] In that

Re: for_UP_and_DOWN

2012-04-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:49:11PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Łukasz Czerwiński milimet...@gmail.com writes: The final suggestion depends on suggestions from all of you. If you find a better idea for (UP_and_DOWN(d)), I'll do so. If you find easier: for_UP_and_DOWN, it could be this.

Re: for_UP_and_DOWN

2012-04-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 05:16:07PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Actually, with option -std=c++0x GCC would accept for (Direction d : { UP, DOWN }) { ... } and that would be readable enough without having to revert to macros. I like that solution, but I'm iffy about relying on compiler

Re: for_UP_and_DOWN

2012-04-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 05:37:14PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: I like that solution, but I'm iffy about relying on compiler support for elements of languages that are less than 10 years old. I was not suggesting we use it. I just pointed

Re: Problem running makelsr.py

2012-04-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:18:41PM +0100, James wrote: james@jameslilydev2:~/lilypond-git$ ./scripts/auxiliar/makelsr.py Traceback (most recent call last): File ./scripts/auxiliar/makelsr.py, line 56, in module TAGS = os.listdir (in_dir) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: ''

Re: for_UP_and_DOWN

2012-04-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 04:10:50PM +0200, Łukasz Czerwiński wrote: I've uploaded my patch without for_UP_and_DOWN, but now it's time to talk about this #define. I'd like to make a second patch that will introduce that, but there was no consensus. ok, great! If you don't know, what I am

Re: for_UP_and_DOWN

2012-04-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 04:41:40PM +0200, Łukasz Czerwiński wrote: On 14 April 2012 16:25, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: tldr summary: we use these for direction loops: oops, that should be we propose that we use these direction loops for (UP_and_DOWN(d

Re: for_UP_and_DOWN

2012-04-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 06:06:41PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: for (UP_and_DOWN(d)) { ... } for (LEFT_and_RIGHT(d)) { ... } Not yet. I just wanted to clarify what you were talking about, since most people don't have

Re: Center a number above a measure - Issue 2445

2012-04-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:04:57AM -0500, David Nalesnik wrote: The big issue for me, however, is that I don't know if it's wise to install lilydev on my current computer. It's been multiply (and for me, unfathomably) partitioned and I don't want to add to the mess since I use the computer so

Re: Staging/Master Merge - James' Patchy

2012-04-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:50:16PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: My comment relates to the need to git add as a separate step. You _only_ need to use git add if you made your changes _manually_ in the work directory instead of going through git. I had to read David's email a few times, and

Re: LSR updates

2012-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 12:36:05PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: OK. I'm in the final throes of updating the LSR and have found 2 issues exemplified by a single file. In snippets/new we used to have a file called screech-boink.ly, with a doctitle of Screech and Boink and an LSR tag of headwords.

Re: LSR updates

2012-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:39:50PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: It'll be a ginormous patch - I can't imagine anyone reviewing it. My suggestion is that I push it directly to staging, given the number of times I'll have tested it? I don't mind. I mean, I _will_ be looking at the patch, but I have

Re: Staging/Master Merge - James' Patchy

2012-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 06:26:30PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: OK. I know why the patch is broken - it doesn't contain the new snippets (like screech-and-boink.ly). This appears to have been a mistake when I was creating the huge patch - I had six patches to apply to get the new one, and I

Re: Staging/Master Merge - James' Patchy

2012-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 07:06:50PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: I did it as a single patch because it really makes sense like that. There's a lot of changes going on here. 63 deletions from new. Deleting files from new has nothing to do with a full LSR import. That is a separate change. If I

Re: verbosity of `make doc'

2012-04-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 08:56:15AM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Wouldn't it be possible, similar to automake, that the name of the currently processed file gets written to stdout, and that this behaviour is the default? In case the names are meaningless, a simple No, because what's taking

Re: no critical issues!

2012-04-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 06:04:39PM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: Release candidate anyone? Or have we already had a version bump? I can build it, Graham, if you're over hours. It's already building. I've been trying to build it for the past few days, but I can only do it after booting

Re: Patch push announcements

2012-04-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 09:20:08PM -0600, Colin Campbell wrote: When a countdown completes, I mark the tracker item patch-push and Google dutifully sends the resulting email to lilypond-auto, where it formerly went to -devel. It formely went to bug-lilypond. I wonder if the owners are

Re: Patch push announcements

2012-04-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 08:33:27AM +0100, James wrote: If I notice one - Mike S for instance - not picking on him especially but in the olden days when he was 'quick-patch-McMike', and when I was checking patches manually, I'd fix the tracker myself as I could see who was the Rietveld owner.

LSR on 2.14 or not?

2012-04-04 Thread Graham Percival
Sorry to butt in, but I want to confirm stuff. 1) is LSR running 2.14.2 right now? 2) how many files were uncompilable? I am aware of one file, which I believe we deleted. Were there any other problematic files? 3) can we do a mundane LSR import? i.e. don't touch anything in

Re: LSR is now on 2.14

2012-04-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:29:40PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: No - that'll only tell me I've not done anything really stupid with makelsr. I ran it without naming a tarball, so it just updates the snippets with (I believe) anything in snippets/new. That is correct. It also updates any

Re: Git help, please

2012-04-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:37:53PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: Background: it seems to me the safest way to be sure that all the updates I'm going to do to the snippets don't kill the documentation build is to test it on a clean build (which my patchy user pretty much is). I believe the easiest

Re: Git help, please

2012-04-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:53:23PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: Don't worry about doing extra checks with patchy. If it passes a doc build from scratch on your computer, then it's highly unlikely to cause a problem at the patchy stage. I have had a problem with this in the past, which is why I

Re: benchmarking LilyPond output: would you like some analysis?

2012-04-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 06:48:00PM +0200, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: Le 04/04/2012 13:06, Janek Warchoł disait : How did you like the colorful Credo example posted in the LilyPond Report #25 (http://news.lilynet.net/?The-LilyPond-Report-25lang=en#the_game_of_the_month)? Just a remark:

Re: casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-04-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 05:49:24PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Peter Chubb l...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: One issue is that the `How to participate' webpage at http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/ doesn't point people at Rietveld -- it just tells them

Re: Failed compiling a single lsr-snippet, which does not fail whenrunning the whole lsr

2012-04-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 12:53:33PM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: But there is a very basic problem: If I test compiling the whole LSR and all is fine but compiling a single file from LSR failes, means I can't trust my testing-results. How can I continue the work? Having no chance to notice

Re: Failed compiling a single lsr-snippet, which does not fail when running the whole lsr

2012-04-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 02:06:37AM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: Contemporary vibrato is a total hack (it was one of the 1st things I wrote in LilyPond).  It's a miracle that it ever compiled in the first place.  I have a 2.15-friendly version I've been using lying around somewhere that is

Re: Corrected comments and a function check_meshing_chords divided in two. (issue 5975054)

2012-04-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 06:12:27AM +, k-ohara5...@oco.net wrote: On 2012/04/01 05:00:25, Graham Percival wrote: it would be much nicer if there was a macro for this. It is better to define macros for just the part inside the for(...) . Then we can write, and auto-indenters can indent

Re: Corrected style of comments (issue 5862052)

2012-04-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 10:46:01AM +0200, Łukasz Czerwiński wrote: Thanku you, Janek and James. Don't add replies to the top an email. Wouldn't it be nicer for git cl to ask for an issue number in case it is unknown? It does. I suggest you update your git-cl to get this addition

Re: Corrected style of comments (issue 5862052)

2012-04-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:00:44AM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 10:46:01AM +0200, Łukasz Czerwiński wrote:    Wouldn't it be nicer for git cl to ask for an issue number in case

Re: Corrected style of comments (issue 5862052)

2012-04-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:09:59AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca To: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com Cc: k-ohara5...@oco.net; re...@codereview-hr.appspotmail.com; julien.ri...@gmail.com; lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Changes .tex files to get rid of warning (issue 5976055)

2012-04-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 03:16:52PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: It looked fine on Rietveld when I looked, and I couldn't find the exceptions bit in the CG, so it's pushed to staging as is. Oops, we were smarter than I thought -- the exceptions are built into git-cl precisely to avoid problems of

Re: Directs pnmtopng stderr output to dev/null (issue 5973044)

2012-04-01 Thread Graham Percival
Sure, go ahead and push. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: LSR is now on 2.14

2012-03-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 06:57:37AM +0100, James wrote: I've updated LilyDev and been working with it this week testing the basics - it makes the code and the doc. I've given Mike a copy of the iso (as he was the only one I knew who used LilyDev in anger) actually, all official lilypond

list of lilypond patches on rietveld

2012-03-30 Thread Graham Percival
A gentle reminder that the new git-cl automatically adds a base url for lilypond, so you can then find all lilypond items:

Re: Lilypond-auto - newsgroup?

2012-03-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 04:31:11PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: I'm subscribed to -auto as a mailing list, but for stuff like this, it fits my workflow better as a newsgroup. Bugs and devel are also newsgroups on the gmane server, but I can't find auto. Should it be there? I have no objection;

Re: LSR is now on 2.14

2012-03-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:02:50AM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: Am 30. März 2012 00:12 schrieb Sebastiano Vigna vi...@dsi.unimi.it: _All_ Unknown files are from `Documentation/snippets/new' as requested by the Contributors Guide. see:

Re: LSR is now on 2.14

2012-03-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:03:40AM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: Am 30. März 2012 01:51 schrieb Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:02:50AM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: Am 30. März 2012 00:12 schrieb Sebastiano Vigna vi...@dsi.unimi.it: _All_ Unknown files

Re: In-tree make check fails with lilypond-book include file regtest.

2012-03-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 02:18:18PM -0400, Julien Rioux wrote: I locally reverted your revert and could make, make test and make doc from scratch in the src dir after the fixes that I committed today. Unless there is any objections I will push the revert of the revert to staging. Please wait a

Re: In-tree make check fails with lilypond-book include file regtest.

2012-03-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:34:37PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: Let's see if current master can be built ok, and fix the dist failures. *Then* we can add back the lilypond-book thing. oh wait, I just checked git and now see that you have a fix for dist, and have a solution for this as well

Re: Directs displaying-grob-ancestry.ly to stderr (issue 5905052)

2012-03-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 03:29:46PM +, markpole...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to be presumptuous here, but is there any chance I can be credited for the original idea? Or is that not typically done in the snippets directory? We don't do this -- at least, we certainly don't have

dist-check failure

2012-03-26 Thread Graham Percival
ge.ja.html file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.15.35/Documentation/misc/browser-language.nl.html file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.15.35/input/regression/lilypond-book/include/example.ly file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.15.35/input/regression/lilypond-book/include/myvar.ily rm

new lilypond-auto mailing list for google code issues

2012-03-26 Thread Graham Percival
We have a new mailing list for automatic messages. All updates to google code issues are now sent there instead of bug-lilypond. The reply-to headers for -auto are set to -devel. https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-auto Note that you can get direct emails for issues by starring the

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 07:44:45AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: We need a *secretary*. We need a *paper pusher*. We need a trained monkey. I could even teach a first-year university student how to be a perfect Frog meister, and having

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