Re: doc-addition for -o / --output

2010-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze wrote Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:54 PM happenstance or intention? I don't know, but I'm reluctant to cement this change into the docs until someone confirms it is working as intended. Looks useful though. Thanks for pointing it out. if you specify a folder name as output option the

Alternate css files

2010-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham, Patrick, Andrew, others? Is there any requirement to continue with the alternate css files in the web? These were set up, IIRC, to enable people to view and comment on alternative designs, but we seem to have settled the design now. The files in question are: lilypond.css

Re: doc-addition for -o / --output

2010-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze wrote Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:54 PM if you specify a folder name as output option the output will be directed to that folder and the name of the file is preserved so i suggest the following change/addition - or similar - in the application usage manual: 1.2 Command-line usage

Re: My web build is different from website

2010-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham, you wrote Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:57 AM actually, now that I think about it some more, make website really has nothing to do with the compiled scripts in scripts/ or python/. Just doing rm -rf out-website/ make website should get you the complete website. If you have any error

Re: My web build is different from website

2010-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
: No such file: text.itely Search path: .:/media/lilypond/lilypond-git/Documentation/:/media/lilypond/lilypond-git/Documentation/:/media/lilypond/lilypond-git/Documentation//snippets/:out-website Trevor - Original Message - From: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk To: Graham

Re: Extra check in define-event-class patch

2010-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mike Solomon wrote Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:16 AM I added an extra symbol check to my event class patch: http://codereview.appspot.com/1867050 Also, I have a regression test that creates a spanner engraver from the scheme end using this function (said regtest could also be turned

NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham My recent activity has shown my RSI is not too bad now, provided I don't spend long periods at the keyboard. I'd like to review NR 2.1 Vocal music and try to get that into better shape by dealing with all the TBC, TODO's etc. before we release 2.14. First I'd like to complete the

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:38 PM On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 07:07:45PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: However, I realise 2.14 might happen any time real soon now, so I'd make sure any changes I pushed were complete and an improvement over what was there before, so that 2.14

Re: doc-addition: the full lilypond command line withoptions+redirections

2010-08-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 13, 2010 7:28 AM On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 03:05:38PM -0700, -Eluze wrote: The lilypond executable may be called as follows from the command line. lilypond [option]... file...[[1]file.log] [2file.txt] 1 and 2 (and, for the matter, ) have nothing to

Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
The mingw binary of 2.13.30 gives the following error under Vista on my system: Running lilypond-book Traceback (most recent call last): File c:/program files/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book.py, line 86, in ? import book_base as BookBase File out/book_base.py, line 4, in ? File

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:27 AM On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: The mingw binary of 2.13.30 gives the following error under Vista on my system: Running

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze wrote Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:20 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: The mingw binary of 2.13.30 gives the following error under Vista on my system: Running lilypond-book Traceback (most recent call last): File c:/program files/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book.py, line 86, in ? import

Updating translated texidoc strings

2010-08-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco I've just updated a snippet which contained translated texidoc strings. Only the LilyPond code was changed, not the texidoc strings themselves. I also updated the committishes in the four texidocs folders. These were in commits: bfc88203ac2572737480e78ef2635ed35b458441

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Monday, August 16, 2010 10:56 PM As for the 2.1 headword, for now, let's just start working on the documentation itself, Trevor and I; when the time comes my patch will still be there, or I'll have had a chance of cooking something more appropriate by then. OK.

Re: Suggestion for CG - make targets section

2010-08-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ian Hulin wrote Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:45 PM I'm just recovering from building and testing my first docs patch *{s\h/u\d/d\e/r\}*. As I didn't know any better, I had to resort to doing make doc and make doc-clean while developing the patch. Firstly, what's the grown-up doc developer's

Re: Suggestion for CG - make targets section

2010-08-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:45 PM On 8/17/10 2:24 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Ian Hulin wrote Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:45 PM Firstly, what's the grown-up doc developer's way of this without having to kick off your make doc run and then leave

Re: Suggestion for CG - make targets section

2010-08-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Actually, Carl, you would be better off starting with this script. I've just realised it's changed quite a bit since I posted the message a year ago. It's still a bit of a mess though, and you'll obviously have to change the bits specific to me, but it'll give you a useful start. You'll also

Reference checking py script [was Re: Suggestion for CG - make targets section]

2010-08-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:01 AM You'll also need refcheck.py to check all the cross-references match, but this is rather tied to my particular file structure. I'll have a look at generalising it so I can put it in scripts/auxiliar. I've done this now. See scripts

Re: Suggestion for CG - make targets section

2010-08-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:16 PM Thanks to Trevor, we now have some scripts that will allow you to quickly test only the section of the documentation you are working on. These scripts are now described in CG 4.6 Scripts to ease doc work. I see you noticed the script

Re: Reference checking py script [was Re: Suggestion for CG - make targets section]

2010-08-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:41 PM On 18 August 2010 13:13, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: I've done this now. See scripts/auxiliar/ref_check.py. Its action is driven by scripts/auxiliar/ref_check.tely Just run it at the top level in the git repository

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:23 PM Valentin: I've just pushed a patch which sets out NR 2.1 the way I want it to be. We can now begin work on fleshing out all the missing bits. To avoid merge conflicts we shall need to avoid changing the same parts of vocal.itely

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:43 PM On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: BTW, there are several snippets in the LSR which would be good to incorporate but which are not tagged with docs. It's a real pain for me to do this Yes

Re: Updating translated texidoc strings

2010-08-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila wrote Friday, August 20, 2010 4:20 PM 2010/8/17 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk: I've just updated a snippet which contained translated texidoc strings. Only the LilyPond code was changed, not the texidoc strings themselves. I also updated the committishes

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Monday, August 23, 2010 6:08 PM Am Donnerstag, 19. August 2010, 09:43:11 schrieb Phil Holmes: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote in message news:3df57d198d544514adecfbe3c1278...@trevorlaptop... Reinhold's refactoring of lilypond-book modules was first

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote in message news:i53pqa$tp...@dough.gmane.org... Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote in message news:305ede3e0e3f4cdc926db8734c558...@trevorlaptop... However, I'm now back to my original problem first reported in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html

Re: removing mentors, adding lilybuntu

2010-08-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:06 PM CG 1.3 Mentors Alternately, do any developers want to offer to mentor 1-4 new contributors? I'm comfortable keeping this section as long as we have at least 1 official mentor handling at least 1 contributor. I'm happy to mentor tyro

Re: [frogs] Chord-name-engraver plus capo

2010-08-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Wols Lists wrote Thursday, August 26, 2010 2:19 PM Learning a bit at a time ... how do I add properties? I've used \set ChordNames.capoFret = #3, but it's a new property, and it's objecting, as you can see. I've added it to the read section of the ADD_TRANSLATOR macro of

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:40 PM I've finished and pushed the first pass through 2.1.7 Choral. I'll begin work on 2.1.9 Chants hymns and psalms next. First pass through 2.1.9 Choral done. I'll look at 2.1.8 Opera and stage musicals next. Any chance you could look

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: First pass through 2.1.9 Choral done. I'll look at 2.1.8 Opera and stage musicals next. Any chance you could look over and comment on 2.1.7 and 2.1.9

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM Let's deal with 2.1.1 first. I know you didn't say to look at NR 2.1.1, but I noticed that you used Common references for vocal music instead of the standard References for vocal music. Yes, this was because there are specific

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:33 PM Thanks, Trevor, for you bisecting... The culprit is actually not the refactoring, but a bug fix I did before the refactoring (commit 4da9fc65cbf74f4cbbdb01add4d5f341a16f5065 at 10.06.10 13:01). The problem I fixed with it was quite

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, August 30, 2010 12:02 AM On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:25:47PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: I have to copy an old version of lilypondbook into every new release in order to get a working version. We can't expect users to do that. I'm confused about what's going

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:48 PM On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 07:09:01PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: I think we need to reorganise the first few sections of Vocal a little. I like it. You have slightly more inside 2.1.1 than I would have initially guessed, but I've

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM Anyway, 2.1.7. [snip] Setting annotate-spacing = ##t in the layout block... Could I convince you to remove that part, and just link to Displaying spacing ? Done I'd rather that you @ref{Fitting music onto fewer pages} rather than

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM - not related to Vocal, but I winced a bit when seeing @ref{Lines}. It might be better to rename this to Expressive marks as lines or Line-style expressions or something... Lines by itself looks fine if you're looking at the ToC, but by

Re: -dinclude-settings=INCLUDEFILE.ly

2010-09-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze wrote Friday, September 03, 2010 11:03 PM Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Am Freitag, 3. September 2010, um 22:49:50 schrieb -Eluze: New option -dinclude-settings=INCLUDEFILE.ly, which causes lilypond to include the given file before the score is processed. This allows the i have tried

Re: -dinclude-settings=INCLUDEFILE.ly

2010-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Alexander Kobel wrote Saturday, September 04, 2010 11:11 AM On 2010-09-04 00:35, Trevor Daniels wrote: Am Freitag, 3. September 2010, um 22:49:50 schrieb -Eluze: my command was: lilypond -V -dinclude-settings c:\data\ly\includes\myTestInit.ly test.ly what is wrong? No idea. Your file

Re: -dinclude-settings=INCLUDEFILE.ly

2010-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze wrote Saturday, September 04, 2010 12:40 PM now i found that it works if i rename the lilypond file and start lilypond with the full specification: c:\program files\lilypond2.13.32\usr\bin\lilypond -dinclude-settings=c:/data/ly/includes/myTestInit.ly test.ly but not with c:\program

Fw: -dinclude-settings=INCLUDEFILE.ly

2010-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
copied to -Devel .. - Original Message - From: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk To: eluze elu...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 12:08 AM Subject: Re: -dinclude-settings=INCLUDEFILE.ly eluze wrote Saturday, September 04, 2010 10:36 PM thanks Trevor - that works

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-09-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Monday, September 06, 2010 8:29 PM Am Montag, 30. August 2010, 01:48:46 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: Am Montag, 30. August 2010, um 00:25:47 schrieben Sie: I don't really see any other way to turn the input path to an absolute path than calling os.path.abspath, in

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM 2.1.9 Chants psalms and hymns I've just pushed these changes: - To remove the stem set the transparent property of the Stem grob to #t... An alternative is set the length property to 0. Please don't talk through the code. I'm a

Missing itexi's?

2010-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Graham ref_check.py has been giving warnings for a couple of weeks now: File Documentation/we-wrote.itexi referenced in WE but not found File Documentation/others-did.itexi referenced in WE but not found WE is web.texi (and any @included files). Are these files created during the

Re: Missing itexi's?

2010-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 05:50:54PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: File Documentation/we-wrote.itexi referenced in WE but not found File Documentation/others-did.itexi referenced in WE but not found Are these files created

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:15:26AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM - do you absolutely need to use an @example rather than @lilypond for the page-separator-markup ? That said, we

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:31 AM On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 12:15:18AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM Hmm... I'm not certain about the paper-size and indent. Happy to remove paper size and landscape, and book

Add tag to snippet

2010-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Phil Could you add a staff tag to this snippet please: Setting system separators Thanks Trevor ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:15 PM On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:02:24AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: The main problem is the full A4 page length, complete with the standard lilypond footer. Landscape was used to reduce this a bit. I can get round the horizontal

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
James Bailey wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:34 PM The current solution for lyrics independent of notes is predicated on the idea that the lyrics should be attached to some voice. Since \lyricmode just tells lilypond that the entry will be text rather than notes, why not simply use

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:15 AM Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:15:26AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM - can't you do \layout { \context { \dynamicsUp

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM Pointing a psalm - I got a bit lost here. Could you add a @lilypond to illustrate some (or all) of those points (no pun intended)? I've just pushed an expanded version of this section with several illustrative examples. Trevor

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:41 PM Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:40 PM I've finished and pushed the first pass through 2.1.7 Choral. I'll begin work on 2.1.9 Chants hymns and psalms next. First pass through 2.1.9 Chants etc done. I'll look at 2.1.8 Opera

Re: source code on windows

2010-09-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:36 PM Does anybody deal with lilypond source code on windows itself, instead of lilybuntu? Trevor? I do _all_ my doc work on Windows, with a Windows git repository. I have ubuntu available in a VM, but it causes a significant slow-down

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:30 PM On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: 2.1.8 Opera and stage musicals ready for review Err... 2.1.6 in today's current git? ok, doing so. I've forgotten anything else we've discussed about

Re: texinfo @ mangling

2010-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:45 PM Is there a way to bypass the automatic obscuring of email addresses on any of the mailing list servers? There may be, but I think the recent discussions about the mailing lists have made it pretty clear that the LilyPond lists are not

Re: texinfo @ mangling

2010-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Damn! Hit the send key accidently before I'd finished. Here's the full reply: Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:45 PM Is there a way to bypass the automatic obscuring of email addresses on any of the mailing list servers? There may be, but I think the recent discussions

Re: [Patch] Indentation in parser.yy

2010-09-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:24 PM On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 03:11:53PM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: It's not much, but since it does change quite a few lines (in a such critical source file, on top of that), there's no way I'm gonna try and push that myself :-)

Re: [Patch] Indentation in parser.yy

2010-09-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:42 AM On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: You know, after rebuffs like this it's hardly surprising you don't

Re: [Patch] Absolute dynamics as postfix text (issue2220041)

2010-09-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
percival.music...@gmail.com wrote Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:05 PM [snip the meat] This breaks the doc build. *cough* grumpily glances around to make sure that David isn't lookingyou idiot/grumpy fluffy I implore you, oh kind and gentle contributor, to check a full build, from

Re: [PATCH]: Doc: LM 3.2: Entering voices in the correct order.

2010-09-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:23 PM This patch should prevent the type of confusion that leads to bug #45: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=45 Comments/objections? Okay to push? I like it; much improved! I (more or less[1]) agree with Graham's

Re: [PATCH]: Doc: LM 3.2: Entering voices in the correct order.

2010-09-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:51 AM Carl Sorensen wrote: Well, the Notation Reference is supposed to contain all the information necessary to understand all the notation. If the information on voices isn't in the Notation Reference, then we'll need to have links from the

Re: NR 2.2.1 keyboards, staff changes

2010-09-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith E OHara wrote Monday, September 20, 2010 12:38 AM I am suggesting a new @knownissues for the Notation Reference 2.2.1. The corresponding bug tracker issues are 1043, 439, and 36. If issue 1043 is solved, the second paragraph of my suggestion will become obsolete. I wrote the

Re: targeting specific context ID's from within \layout?

2010-09-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:35 AM % Is there a way to target a specific context (eg. one of % several Staff contexts) from within the \layout block? I don't believe so. Modifying a single named context is the only reason for the continued existence of the ungainly

Re: Doc: NR 1.5.2: Clarify voice order; \shiftOn etc. (issue2226045)

2010-09-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
markpolesky wrote Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:51 PM On 2010/09/22 14:53:15, Graham Percival wrote: Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely:392: @example Can't this @example be removed, now that there's the @lilypond just below it? as I think more about visual-impairment accessibility,

Re: Help with trying to alter an @lilypond example in the NR for Tracker item 1033

2010-09-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
James Lowe wrote Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:57 PM The current example I am having problems with is in 5.1.4 Modifying context plug-ins. The example in the current document is: --- @lilypond[quote,relative=1,ragged-right,verbatim,fragment] This should be @lilypond[quote,verbatim]

Re: Doc: NR 4.1.2: Reorganize vertical dimensions. (issue2316042)

2010-10-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
markpolesky wrote Saturday, October 02, 2010 5:09 PM Okay, here we go... Hooke's law: F=-kx x is the displacement of the end of the spring from its equilibrium position (in SI units: m); F is the restoring force exerted by the material (in SI units: N or kg·m/s^2); and k is

Re: What am I doing wrong here?

2010-10-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Sunday, October 03, 2010 3:22 PM push = -\tweak #'side-axis #X ^\markup { \musicglyph #accordion.push } pull = -\tweak #'side-axis #X ^\markup { \musicglyph #accordion.pull } \score { \repeat unfold 8 { c'-1\push c'-1\pull } } Why does this work nice with \push, and not

Re: names of vertical spacing dimensions

2010-10-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Monday, October 04, 2010 11:14 PM Usually when I propose things like this, they're shot down pretty fast, but here goes anyway. It took me a while to mentally connect the names of the vertical spacing variables with their specific domains. For example, I think it's

Re: docs addition, beaming cadenzas

2010-10-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith E OHara wrote Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:18 AM In the existing @knownissues for cadenzaOn, I suggest adding one sentence (in context below) encouraging manual beams. Users might *think* autobeaming works through cadenzas, and it does for a while, but it will not through longer

Re: attachment points for vertical spacing dimensions

2010-10-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:09 PM http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2010-10/msg00070.html Let me know what you guys think; it would be nice to achieve consensus on this one. I'm with Carl on this. I agree with all his comments. Further to my suggestion to

Re: Staff sizes...

2010-10-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Arno Waschk wrote Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:27 PM why does the following: [snip give a small piano part (which i expected) but a normal sized bassPart Staff? It does give a small bassPart here (2.13.34). What do you have in bassPart? Trevor

Re: names of vertical spacing dimensions

2010-10-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:46 PM I also think the name 'space is misleading; I propose 'default-distance. Opinions? I'd be happy with that change too. Mark Trevor ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-10-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham I've just pushed a patch to NR 2.1 Vocal music which provides a first draft for the last of the blank sections marked TBC (To Be Completed). I believe it's now in a much better shape than it was, even though much of the chapter is in first draft state. Next up are the 19 TODOs, and

Re: names of vertical spacing dimensions

2010-10-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
James wrote Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:27 PM On 12/10/2010 12:54, David Kastrup wrote: Jamesjames.l...@datacore.com writes: Hello, On 12/10/2010 10:13, Alexander Kobel wrote: On 2010-10-09 17:46, Mark Polesky wrote: CURRENT NAME PROPOSED NAME - top-system

Re: names of vertical spacing dimensions

2010-10-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival Yes, but I see some weaknesses in our docs. - Glossary: staff should link to system - Glossary: both staff and system could benefit from images - Learning: add some link(s) to Glossary: system. Currently we have none! gperc...@futoi:~/src/lilypond/Documentation/learning$

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:03 PM Hi Trevor, here's a minor patch for Vocal music. Nothing too extraordinary so far, I quite like what you've done! I've done about a third of the file, I plan to work on the rest later (though it may have to wait for a while :)

Re: names of vertical spacing dimensions

2010-10-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:42 AM Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 10/13/10 2:40 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: The point is that we want a sane way of specifying document layout parameters. The current naming scheme resembles that desire. The

Re: names of vertical spacing dimensions

2010-10-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:05 AM Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Although this is a good point, the problem is not as stark as this might suggest. There are many situations when writing LilyPond code when score-wide settings are inappropriate

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-10-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Sunday, October 17, 2010 4:57 PM On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Looks good to me. I'll confirm when the GUB 2.13.33 for Windows is available. sorry for bumping this discussion, but: where are we wrt this problem

TODO in vocal

2010-10-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin There's a TODO in vocal.itely that I don't understand: 902 @c TODO: document \new Staff Voice \lyricsto bug If it really is a bug then we shouldn't be documenting it anyway, but I'd like to know what it means first. Do you know which bug it is referring to? Trevor

Re: TODO in vocal

2010-10-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Monday, October 18, 2010 1:47 PM On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: There's a TODO in vocal.itely that I don't understand: 902 @c TODO: document \new Staff Voice \lyricsto bug If it really is a bug then we shouldn't

Re: anybody understand the instrumentCueName docs?

2010-10-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith E OHara wrote Monday, October 18, 2010 11:40 PM I suggest (diff attached) removing the part about instrumentCueName in favor of a fuller example for \killCues. The manual teaches markup elsewhere; the challenge with cue-note labels is to let the label appear with the cue notes in

Re: anybody understand the instrumentCueName docs?

2010-10-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith E OHara wrote Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:21 AM One thing worth discussing is that I use the verb to cue differently from the original author. I believe that to cue is to *give* a signal for someone else to begin action. So the instrument playing just before the singer begins is

Re: anybody understand the instrumentCueName docs?

2010-10-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:35 PM Keith E OHara wrote Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:21 AM Suggestions attached as a diff, I'm happy to push this as is. Many thanks Keith. Pushed to git pretty well as you suggested, Keith, and snippet updated in git. Changed

Re: anybody understand the instrumentCueName docs?

2010-10-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith E OHara wrote Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:34 PM On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:34:05 -0700, Trevor Daniels wrote: If no one objects soon I shall push it. James Lowe made comments that you might not have seen yet. I see where he is coming from, but I hope my answer explained the purpose

Re: NR 2.1 suggestions

2010-10-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
down to 2.1.7. Trevor - Original Message - From: James Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 5:55 PM Subject: NR 2.1 suggestions These are just some things that I noticed. 2.1.1 Entering

Re: NR 2.1 suggestions

2010-10-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:48 PM On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Many thanks for your comments. At first glance they all seem pertinent. I'll have a look at fixing them up tomorrow. I've taken the liberty to apply

Re: Query about sentence in Notation Reference

2010-10-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
James Lowe wrote Saturday, October 23, 2010 8:00 PM While scanning through NR 1.2.2 the last section I came across the line When a multi-measure rest immediately follows a @code{\partial} setting, resulting bar-check warnings may not be displayed. Does anyone therefore know when I

Re: [Patch] Fix #903: Add shortcuts for note names languages.(issue2606042)

2010-10-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Saturday, October 23, 2010 9:54 PM On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:53 AM, carl.d.soren...@gmail.com wrote: I like this idea as a way to get the functionality you want in the short term. But I don't like it for the long term. I think the long-term syntax needs to be

Re: renaming vertical spacing inside systems props

2010-10-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Friday, October 29, 2010 11:27 PM Here are my proposals for renaming the properties related to Vertical spacing inside systems. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I've thought about it, and I think I slightly favor the term loose line over non-staff line; the word loose is

Re: renaming vertical spacing inside systems props

2010-11-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:56 PM Renaming proposals, round 2: CURRENT NAME PROPOSED NAME - next-staff staff-staff default-next-staff default-staff-staff inter-staffnonstaff-staff I'd go with Carl's suggestion of

Re: renaming vertical spacing inside systems props

2010-11-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:00 PM On 11/3/10 2:49 PM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote: Trevor wrote: I wonder if affinity/nonaffinity are optimal. Are they better than relatedstaff/unrelatedstaff? Or target/opposite, reference/opposite,

Re: renaming vertical spacing inside systems props

2010-11-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:10 AM On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Renaming proposals, round 3: CURRENT NAME PROPOSED NAMETD's PREFERENCE

Re: solved: reference points for non-staff lines

2010-11-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Good work, Mark. I'd prefer to see your image in the docs rather than text. Trevor - Original Message - From: Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com To: lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:17 PM Subject: solved: reference points for non-staff lines

Re: solved: reference points for non-staff lines

2010-11-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:00 AM On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:44 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: I'd prefer to see your image in the docs rather than text. Just be sure you look your best. ROTFL! Me too

Re: Renaming the 'space alist-key

2010-11-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Saturday, November 06, 2010 5:32 PM 7 proposals for renaming the 'space alist-key have been discussed, but a decision has not yet been made. And I just added an 8th proposal (initial-distance). To recap, I think the arguments *for* each of these are mostly self-evident,

Re: renaming vertical spacing inside systems props

2010-11-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith E OHara wrote Sunday, November 07, 2010 2:54 AM On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:20:08 -0700, lilypond-devel-requ...@gnu.org wrote: [...] And lastly, I still think reference/opposite is better than related/unrelated: nonstaff-referencestaff nonstaff-oppositestaff But I won't protest. Any last

Re: Renaming the 'space alist-key

2010-11-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, November 07, 2010 12:46 AM Carl Sorensen wrote: 9) initial-separation * longer but describes the meaning more accurately now we have an item-item-spacing format I vote for 8 or 9. 9. Does this entail changing 'minimum-distance to 'minimum-separation?

Re: non-technical help for spacing issues

2010-11-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith E OHara wrote Sunday, November 07, 2010 1:19 AM On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:24:33 -0700, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:47:01 -0700, Graham wrote: This is directed at people saying I can't do anything to help... I need a committing, not

Re: Renaming the 'space alist-key

2010-11-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
remain open and transparent to the end. Trevor - Original Message - From: Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com To: lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu; Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk Cc: Joe Neeman joenee...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 8

Re: [Patch] Fix #1365: convert-ly shouldn't remove Dynamics performergroup

2010-11-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:35 AM Greetings everybody, here's a patch that (hopefully) addresses the low-priority issue 1365. I'm not sure if we've ever used convert-ly to insert comments in .ly files, but I do think we should in this specific case: the

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