Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
From: Werner LEMBERG Subject: Re: Replying to posts Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:19:48 +0200 (CEST) > >>> What about this? >>> >>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/ >>> >>> I'm not an outlook user, but this looks quite promising (and is >>> actively

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Tim McNamara
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > >> Reading your admonition to "don't use top-posting," I tried to >> locate the command in Outlook 2013 that sets this option as default. > > What about this? > > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread mskala
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > contributors in my local filtering rules, and seriously consider > > both exiting the list and ceasing to use LilyPond entirely. > > Exiting the list I can understand, but ceasing to use? Tsk, tsk, > tsk :-) If I were going to only ever use the

RE: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Werner, Thank you for your reply and the link. Outlook-quotefix has been test only for Outlook versions prior to 2007. I have 2013. Mark -Original Message- From: werner.lemb...@gmx.de [mailto:werner.lemb...@gmx.de] On Behalf Of Werner LEMBERG Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:45 PM To:

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> What about this? >> >> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/ >> >> I'm not an outlook user, but this looks quite promising (and is >> actively maintained)! > > Really? Runs on NT4 up to XP. Support up to Outlook 2003. That's > moribund by any standard, surely? Oops! I've

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread DJF
On Apr 29, 2016, at 12:20 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > On 29 April 2016 at 13:48, Tim McNamara wrote: > >> Most mailing lists send a copy of the rules with the "welcome e-mail" that >> is sent someone subscribes to the list. It's

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> . Stay polite and avoid ad-hominem attacks. > > Is that a real rule, or only what we wish were a rule? Actively managing a mailing list is work. AFAIK, no-one is taking care of that, see my other mail. So yes, currently it is a wish. > I've seldom seen more ad hominem on any list than I

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Werner, On 29 April 2016 at 14:45, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > What about this? > > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/ > > I'm not an outlook user, but this looks quite promising (and is > actively maintained)! > Really? Runs on NT4 up to XP. Support up to

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[David, please have a look to this e-mail.] > > Of course there is a list owner. > > Who, may one ask? Why are they taking no interest in this extensive > discussion? Ah, bad wording of mine. `List owner' is too big a word; the list was automatically created for the lilypond team by the

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread mskala
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > . Stay polite and avoid ad-hominem attacks. Is that a real rule, or only what we wish were a rule? I've seldom seen more ad hominem on any list than I routinely see on this one, and it has caused me to both block a couple of regular contributors in

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Mark, The issue of top posting surely in and of itself generates massive flame wars. It is by no means agreed upon. Business (and so Outlook) generally uses top posting. Internet groups often do not. Werner's list is just a suggestion. There's no rule about top, bottom, or interleaved posting

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Reading your admonition to "don't use top-posting," I tried to > locate the command in Outlook 2013 that sets this option as default. What about this? http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/ I'm not an outlook user, but this looks quite promising (and is actively

RE: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Werner Lemberg, Reading your admonition to "don't use top-posting," I tried to locate the command in Outlook 2013 that sets this option as default. I was unable to do so. Knowing this can you forgive my "top-posting?" Can you, or anyone else, direct me? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Tim, On 29 April 2016 at 13:48, Tim McNamara wrote: > Most mailing lists send a copy of the rules with the "welcome e-mail" that is > sent someone subscribes to the list. It's been long enough that I don't > remember what the one I received said on the topic. I just

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Werner, On 29 April 2016 at 14:05, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner, >> and there are no published rules. > > Of course there is a list owner. Who, may one ask? Why are they taking no interest in this extensive

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner, > and there are no published rules. Of course there is a list owner. However, up to now there wasn't a single person who stomped our nuts too hard, so to say, forcing us to banning him or her from the list. In general, the

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Tim McNamara
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > > The whole reason I began this thread was to ask if there may be some > simple way we could post the code of conduct/guidelines/policy for the > mailing list so that people could be made aware of it. Nobody has >

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
On 29 April 2016 at 12:18, Gilles wrote: > People here have given reasons that can translate into (implicit) rules. > Another (meta-)rule is to behave the same way as others do (e.g. looking > at the archives could give hints as to what is the norm). The whole

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Gilles, I don't think there is any such for this list. Is there? Andrew On 29 April 2016 at 12:18, Gilles wrote: > > List owner/adminstrator/moderator: ie. someone who has the privilege to > unsubscribe other people. >

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Gilles
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:40:09 +1000, Andrew Bernard wrote: Hi Gilles, As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner, and there are no published rules. List owner/adminstrator/moderator: ie. someone who has the privilege to unsubscribe other people. People here have given

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Gilles, As far as I know this particular list does not have a list owner, and there are no published rules. Andrew On 27/04/2016, 10:05 PM, "lilypond-user on behalf of Gilles" wrote:

Re: Embedding eps over staff lines and music as graphical notation

2016-04-28 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-04-28 15:35 GMT+02:00 Caio Giovaneti de Barros : > How can I insert an EPS file over the staff lines, ignoring collisions? > > I want to suggest random notes played from high to low pitches with > graphical notation by inserting the attached eps file, linking the first

Re: Development

2016-04-28 Thread Lee Daniel Crocker
> You are probably not aware that it is not possible to compile > lilypond under Windows currently... > It would be great if you could improve that. Why? It's reasonably simple to develop software FOR Windows ON Linux, so no one need suffer the deprivations of trying to develop software ON

Re: chordmode using variable

2016-04-28 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-04-28 14:05 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht : > On 28.04.2016 11:52, Gianmaria Lari wrote: >> >> Dear Harm, >> >> some weeks ago replying to me, you used a variable name syntax that I >> didn't know: >> >>> mynote.7 = . >> >> I see the compiler didn't complain and having

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Rafael Ramirez Morales
This thread gets better and better! I'm subscribed to 2 maling lists in gnu.org: lilypond & org-mode... At this point in time I cannot distinguish to which of the two this thread belongs to. “Organize your life in plain text!” “Organize your music in plain text!” Cheers. On 28 April 2016 at

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Anthonys Lists
On 28/04/2016 15:18, Johan Vromans wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:43:34 +0100 Steve Downes wrote: 4) it doesn't go out of date due to format change Although not related to email per se, this is the strongest argument to always use the simplest data format that can

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, > for *my* use case, it probably really IS NOT an improvement! > I've never used it, never tried it, never had any desire to. That was me — almost verbatim — about two years ago. Now I’m kicking myself for having waited so long. YMMV. Best, Kieren. Kieren

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Johan Vromans
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:43:34 +0100 Steve Downes wrote: > 4) it doesn't go out of date due to format change Although not related to email per se, this is the strongest argument to always use the simplest data format that can represent the information.

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/28/16 6:26 AM, "Wols Lists" wrote: >On 28/04/16 12:43, Chris Yate wrote: >> >> >> "Shiny" isn't necessarily "improved" but they're not mutually >> exclusive. Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in >> the User Interface for Lilypond

Embedding eps over staff lines and music as graphical notation

2016-04-28 Thread Caio Giovaneti de Barros
How can I insert an EPS file over the staff lines, ignoring collisions? I want to suggest random notes played from high to low pitches with graphical notation by inserting the attached eps file, linking the first note with the last, in the following snippet. I can't find how to make lilypond

Re: Multi-measure rests and mark collisions ...

2016-04-28 Thread Anthonys Lists
On 27/04/2016 01:04, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 4/26/16 3:56 PM, "Thomas Morley" wrote: 2016-04-26 2:21 GMT+02:00 Wols Lists : On 25/04/16 05:31, David Wright wrote: (I still don't know what you're trying to accomplish [...]) The problem

Re: Question about output

2016-04-28 Thread Benjamin Strecker
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Michiel Sikma wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm doing some tests trying to figure out repeating sections and voices, and > I've written this so far: > http://lilybin.com/mwafar/2 > My question is, does it look OK to you that the end of the second

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Steve Downes
I cannot understand why anybody uses html (except their software point them at it) I decided 20 years ago when word processors were coming in with various formats that I would always use plain text unless there was a strong reason not to because:- 1) it took less storage 2) it travelled faster 3)

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Urs Liska
Am 28. April 2016 14:08:41 MESZ, schrieb Chris Yate : >On 28 Apr 2016 13:07, "Werner LEMBERG" wrote: >> >> >> > Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in the >User >> > Interface for Lilypond development? >> >> No, it isn't. It is a big

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/04/16 12:43, Chris Yate wrote: > On 27 April 2016 at 19:25, Anthonys Lists wrote: >> >> And the reality is, most people HERE, including the most important ones! use >> simple, plain-text, email clients. >> There's a reason why Outlook Lusers are not welcome on

Re: chordmode using variable

2016-04-28 Thread Gianmaria Lari
Thank you Simon for the explanation. I think I will try to avoid it as much as possible but not more than that:) P.S. Be patient with my English On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 28.04.2016 11:52, Gianmaria Lari wrote: >> >> Dear Harm, >> >>

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> For that, you want Visual Studio... Pfft. You are probably not aware that it is not possible to compile lilypond under Windows currently... It would be great if you could improve that. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Chris Yate
On 28 Apr 2016 13:07, "Werner LEMBERG" wrote: > > > > Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in the User > > Interface for Lilypond development? > > No, it isn't. It is a big improvement for *using* lilypond (well, for > all those guys and ladies who like IDEs),

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Chris Yate
On 28 Apr 2016 13:07, "Werner LEMBERG" wrote: > > > > Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in the User > > Interface for Lilypond development? > > No, it isn't. It is a big improvement for *using* lilypond (well, for > all those guys and ladies who like IDEs),

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in the User > Interface for Lilypond development? No, it isn't. It is a big improvement for *using* lilypond (well, for all those guys and ladies who like IDEs), but for lilypond *development* you certainly don't need it. Werner

Re: chordmode using variable

2016-04-28 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 28.04.2016 11:52, Gianmaria Lari wrote: Dear Harm, some weeks ago replying to me, you used a variable name syntax that I didn't know: mynote.7 = . I see the compiler didn't complain and having the possibility to use number in the variable name would be very practical (at least for

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Urs Liska
Am 28.04.2016 um 13:43 schrieb Chris Yate: > Would you suggest Frescobaldi is *not* a big improvement in > the User Interface for Lilypond development? Oh, just wait for the flame wars when we announce that we finally provide tools for graphically tweaking slurs in Frescobaldi ;-)

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Chris Yate
On 27 April 2016 at 19:25, Anthonys Lists wrote: > > And the reality is, most people HERE, including the most important ones! use > simple, plain-text, email clients. > There's a reason why Outlook Lusers are not welcome on most mailing lists, > and that's because the

Re: Question about output

2016-04-28 Thread Matt Hood
> On 28 Apr 2016, at 1:51 PM, Michiel Sikma wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm doing some tests trying to figure out repeating sections and voices, and > I've written this so far: > http://lilybin.com/mwafar/2 > My question is, does it look OK to

Re: Replying to posts

2016-04-28 Thread Peter Gentry
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:01:48 +0200 From: David Kastrup To: Chris Yate Cc: Gianmaria Lari , Lilypond-User Mailing List Subject: Re: Replying to posts Message-ID: <871t5r2u3n@fencepost.gnu.org>

Re: chordmode using variable

2016-04-28 Thread Gianmaria Lari
Dear Harm, some weeks ago replying to me, you used a variable name syntax that I didn't know: > mynote.7 = . I see the compiler didn't complain and having the possibility to use number in the variable name would be very practical (at least for me). But is it a "standard programming style"?

Question about output

2016-04-28 Thread Michiel Sikma
Hi all, I'm doing some tests trying to figure out repeating sections and voices, and I've written this so far: http://lilybin.com/mwafar/2 My question is, does it look OK to you that the end of the second alternative is a repeat bar (e.g. ":..:" ) in both directions? I was expecting to get a