New \partcombine in 2.19 Was: Re: Combining voices in American Hymns

2016-09-08 Thread David F.
On Sep 8, 2016, at 2:09 AM, Phil Holmes wrote: > Partcombine has been improved in 2.19. See > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#automatic-part-combining Ah, yes. That looks very close to what I want. In fact \partcombine #'(1 . 0)

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Winter
Yes. Admittedly, my initial email was not as explanatory as possible. I will definitely be more thorough on my first attempt! Regardless, I am pretty happy to have the problem solved and do understand that my lack of clarity was partly to blame for any confusion. Best, Michael On 09/08/2016

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-09-08 18:13 GMT+02:00 Michael Winter : > Respectfully, > > This is like someone asking for directions but instead of getting an > answer on how to get to their preferred destination, getting asked why > they would want to go there at all. > > If this were a

Re: changing staff-size throughout a score

2016-09-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > "This OP's message" was mine: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-09/msg00144.html to > which Michael replied, unfortunately without quoting. Yes, I see that now. I meant Michael’s request — which, as we’ve said, Lily can easily handle. Apologies for the

Re: changing staff-size throughout a score

2016-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.09.2016 um 22:06 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >> We're talking about changing from one system to the next, >> not about having staves of different size in parallel. > You were talking about that in another thread… but where in this OP’s message > was that restriction? Sorry if I

Re:changing staff-size throughout a score

2016-09-08 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> > From: Michael Rivers > If this is possible, it would be very nice to know how to do. When making > worksheets, I want to make the examples in regular sized staves and make > the > lines for the student responses with larger staves. Sibelius is stuck with > one staff

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Winter
I think I found a good solution. This needs some more testing, but here goes (see below). This with the overridden auto-knee-gap and damping settings allows some dampening but will always clear one of the beam sides out of the staff. So looks like all is accomplished: generally getting the beams

Re: Determine width of a markup

2016-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 8. September 2016 19:46:37 MESZ, schrieb Abraham Lee : >On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > >> Is there a way to determine the width of a markup? >> >> The question is about a way to center lyric syllables while ignoring >>

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Abraham Lee
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:37 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:04 PM, tisimst > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:52 AM, David Nalesnik [via Lilypond] <[hidden > > email]> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at

Re: Determine width of a markup

2016-09-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > is there a ready-made solution to ignore punctuation in lyrics alignment? The LSR seems to be down, but I think does (most of?) what you want. Hope this helps, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website:

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread David Nalesnik
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:04 PM, tisimst wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:52 AM, David Nalesnik [via Lilypond] <[hidden > email]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:26 AM, David Nalesnik <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> > >> > \version "2.19.46" >> > >> > #(define

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Winter
Thank you David! This is so, so helpful. You have no idea how grateful I am. I want to play around a bit and will let you know if I have any further questions. Best, Michael On 09/08/2016 11:13 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Nalesnik

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread David Nalesnik
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Michael Winter wrote: > Thank you David! > > This is a great start. And at the very least gets me to the point where > manual overrides will not be as numerous. > > I also think I can play with this to get a bit more natural dampening.

Re: changing staff-size throughout a score

2016-09-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > We're talking about changing from one system to the next, > not about having staves of different size in parallel. You were talking about that in another thread… but where in this OP’s message was that restriction? Sorry if I missed it. > Indeed it seems Finale is the only "big" tool

Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

2016-09-08 Thread Anders Eriksson
On 2016-09-08 19:03, Michael Rivers wrote: I'm not sure it's due to a change between v2.19.46 and 47. For most of the summer, I had been running an older development version and an older version of Frescobaldi for a while, and they were running fine. I hadn't run Lilypond in a few weeks, and in

Re: changing staff-size throughout a score

2016-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.09.2016 um 21:46 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Michael, > >> I want to make the examples in regular sized staves and make the >> lines for the student responses with larger staves. > Like this? > > \version "2.19" > \score { > << > \new Staff \with { \magnifyStaff #1/2 } { \repeat

Re: changing staff-size throughout a score

2016-09-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Michael, > I want to make the examples in regular sized staves and make the > lines for the student responses with larger staves. Like this? \version "2.19" \score { << \new Staff \with { \magnifyStaff #1/2 } { \repeat unfold 4 c''1 } \new Staff { \repeat unfold 4 c''1 } >> } Of

Re: calculation of the total duration of a score

2016-09-08 Thread Paul
Hi Marc, Well, looks like I sent the file too soon before testing it for this use case. It looks like the html-live-score is using different units of time somehow? I haven't had a chance to look into it or figure out the difference. Anyway, the attached file will report the correct total

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread David Nalesnik
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > > So, to get the positions of the note-heads under a Beam, you could > write something like: Appended as a file because of awkward line-breaks when inlining David \version "2.19.46" #(define my-positions

Re: changing staff-size throughout a score

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Rivers
If this is possible, it would be very nice to know how to do. When making worksheets, I want to make the examples in regular sized staves and make the lines for the student responses with larger staves. Sibelius is stuck with one staff size throughout the whole document. As far as I know, Finale

Re: Determine width of a markup

2016-09-08 Thread Abraham Lee
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > Is there a way to determine the width of a markup? > > The question is about a way to center lyric syllables while ignoring > trailing punctuation. My idea is to calculate the width of the > punctuation as compared to the

Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Rivers
I'm not sure it's due to a change between v2.19.46 and 47. For most of the summer, I had been running an older development version and an older version of Frescobaldi for a while, and they were running fine. I hadn't run Lilypond in a few weeks, and in the meantime Windows 10 updated to the

Re: Determine width of a markup

2016-09-08 Thread David Nalesnik
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > Is there a way to determine the width of a markup? > > The question is about a way to center lyric syllables while ignoring > trailing punctuation. My idea is to calculate the width of the > punctuation as compared to the

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Winter
Thank you David! This is a great start. And at the very least gets me to the point where manual overrides will not be as numerous. I also think I can play with this to get a bit more natural dampening. Plus this is a good opportunity to get my feet wet with scheme. Quick thought (to maybe deal

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread tisimst
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:52 AM, David Nalesnik [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n194341...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:26 AM, David Nalesnik <[hidden email] > > wrote: > > > > > \version "2.19.46" > > > > #(define my-positions >

Re: Trill with (automatic) accidentals

2016-09-08 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 12:12:36PM +0200, Urs Liska wrote: > Is it true that adding an accidental to a trill like in the attached > image can only be realized through markups? As far as I can tell from the docs, yes. But I don't know if there is some hidden option somewhere that allows it? > Is

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
For example, the (pseudo-code) sequence: (treble clef, relative c'') { b4 r8.[ d16] r8.[ e16] r8.[ g16] } when I would notate it would always either shove the 8. rest outside of the bar, or collide with it, or otherwise involve ugly beaming. I found I had to re-write the rests as something like {

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread David Nalesnik
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:26 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > > \version "2.19.46" > > #(define my-positions >(lambda (grob) > (let* ((stems (ly:grob-object grob 'stems)) > (first-stem (ly:grob-array-ref stems 0)) > (dir (ly:grob-property

Re: calculation of the total duration of a score

2016-09-08 Thread Marc Hohl
Hi Harm, thanks a lot for your engraver, works out of the box! Best regards, Marc Am 08.09.2016 um 10:02 schrieb Thomas Morley: 2016-09-08 5:39 GMT+02:00 Paul : On 09/05/2016 05:01 AM, Marc Hohl wrote: Has someone else already done something like this? I have no

Determine width of a markup

2016-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
Is there a way to determine the width of a markup? The question is about a way to center lyric syllables while ignoring trailing punctuation. My idea is to calculate the width of the punctuation as compared to the whole syllable and calculate an alignment offset from that result. So you'd either

Re: Combining voices in American Hymns

2016-09-08 Thread David Wright
On Thu 08 Sep 2016 at 10:18:45 (+0200), Urs Liska wrote: > Am 08.09.2016 um 10:09 schrieb Phil Holmes: > > - Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:47 AM > > Subject: Re: Combining voices in American Hymns > >> Am 08.09.2016 um

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Andrew Bernard
Greetings Harm, Ugly is a subjective matter. The work I do setting massively dense scores for my New Complexity School colleague uses his personal style where all beams are always outside the staff lines. This he does for various personal reasons, one of which is to in fact aid legibility in the

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Winter
Respectfully, This is like someone asking for directions but instead of getting an answer on how to get to their preferred destination, getting asked why they would want to go there at all. If this were a question about default lilypond behavior, I would understand that standard engraving

Re: Trill with (automatic) accidentals

2016-09-08 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Is it true that adding an accidental to a trill like in the attached > image can only be realized through markups? > > Is there an existing solution that can be used like \pitchedTrill but > without explicitly printing the alternative note and instead

Re: Trill with (automatic) accidentals

2016-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
OK, didn't work. Here with *attached* image Am 08.09.2016 um 12:12 schrieb Urs Liska: > Is it true that adding an accidental to a trill like in the attached > image can only be realized through markups? > > Is there an existing solution that can be used like \pitchedTrill but > without

Re: Trill with (automatic) accidentals

2016-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.09.2016 um 18:35 schrieb David Kastrup: > Urs Liska writes: > >> Is it true that adding an accidental to a trill like in the attached >> image can only be realized through markups? >> >> Is there an existing solution that can be used like \pitchedTrill but >> without

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Michael, On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Michael Winter wrote: > { d'16 [ r16 d'8 ] d'16 [ b'16\rest d'8 ] \override Beam.positions = > #'(3.5 . 3.5) d'16 [ r16 d'8 ] d''16 [ r16 d''8 ]} > > In the above example there are 4 beamed groups. > > 1) default - the

Trill with (automatic) accidentals

2016-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
Is it true that adding an accidental to a trill like in the attached image can only be realized through markups? Is there an existing solution that can be used like \pitchedTrill but without explicitly printing the alternative note and instead printing an accidental (if necessary according the

Re: calculation of the total duration of a score

2016-09-08 Thread Marc Hohl
Hi Paul, thanks for the file. It lookes quite promising, but a quick test shows some strange numbers I do not understand: test.ly --- \version "2.19.47" \include "grob-meta-data-engraver.ily" \score { \new Staff { \tempo 4 = 60 \repeat unfold 60 c'4 } \layout { } \midi

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-09-08 8:52 GMT+02:00 Michael Winter : > Is it possible to force a beam to always start (vertically) a minimum > distance from the staff regardless of the stem direction? > > Thanks, > > Michael Hi Michael, well, it's doable. But why should I help you making

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Winter
{ d'16 [ r16 d'8 ] d'16 [ b'16\rest d'8 ] \override Beam.positions = #'(3.5 . 3.5) d'16 [ r16 d'8 ] d''16 [ r16 d''8 ]} In the above example there are 4 beamed groups. 1) default - the rest is pushed down 2) explicitly set rest y position using \rest - the beam stays in the same position

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Michael, Can you show an example of what you’d like to get? JM > Le 8 sept. 2016 à 08:52, Michael Winter a écrit : > > Is it possible to force a beam to always start (vertically) a minimum > distance from the staff regardless of the stem direction? > >

Re: always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Winter
I should add that I want to do this all programatically. I tried using /rest but that does not change the beam position and then the beam collides with the rest. Another thought I had was to try to write a function that automatically sets the beam position since that is relative to the staff,

Re: calculation of the total duration of a score

2016-09-08 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-09-08 5:39 GMT+02:00 Paul : > On 09/05/2016 05:01 AM, Marc Hohl wrote: > >> Has someone else already done something like this? I have no experience >> in writing scheme engravers, so any hint would be highly appreciated. > > > lilypond-html-live-score does something like

Re: Combining voices in American Hymns

2016-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.09.2016 um 10:09 schrieb Phil Holmes: > - Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:47 AM > Subject: Re: Combining voices in American Hymns > > >> >> >> Am 08.09.2016 um 07:14 schrieb Noeck: >>>

Re: Combining voices in American Hymns

2016-09-08 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" To: Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Combining voices in American Hymns Am 08.09.2016 um 07:14 schrieb Noeck: Hi David, it is on the same page in the docs:

Re: Combining voices in American Hymns

2016-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.09.2016 um 07:14 schrieb Noeck: > Hi David, > > it is on the same page in the docs: > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices > The normal \voiceOne and \voiceTwo contruct shows each voice with their > stems (and slurs etc.) in different directions. > >

always set beam outside of staff

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Winter
Is it possible to force a beam to always start (vertically) a minimum distance from the staff regardless of the stem direction? Thanks, Michael ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user