Re: Scoop (jazz notation)

On 15/05/2024 18:54, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: On the other hand, you could argue that many examples of scoop are not intended to convey specific shapes, so a one-size-fits-all glyph is sufficient, and it is not intended to solve the problem of expressive glissando. Which, is also a

Re: Scoop (jazz notation)

> > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Tim Giles > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 22:34:00 +0200 > Subject: Re: Scoop (jazz notation) > Thanks for the link, Werner. I have added a comment regarding the jazz > application. Cheers, -Tim >

Re: Scoop (jazz notation)

As a short term solution you could save that script in a separate file, name the function \scoop and use it via an \include statement. > On May 14, 2024, at 3:35 PM, Tim Giles wrote: > > Thanks for the link, Werner. I have added a comment regarding the jazz > application. Cheers, -Tim >

Re: Scoop (jazz notation)

Thanks for the link, Werner. I have added a comment regarding the jazz application. Cheers, -Tim > On 14 May 2024, at 19:21, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > >> I agree with Tim. It's one of those frequently used jazz-isms that >> lilypond doesn't handle very elegantly. What's the procedure for

Re: Scoop (jazz notation)

> I agree with Tim. It's one of those frequently used jazz-isms that > lilypond doesn't handle very elegantly. What's the procedure for > submitting a feature request like this? You might expand https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/529 with comments – and images of professionally

Re: Scoop (jazz notation)

t's a great > suggestion. > > Laurie Savage > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > Original message > From: Tim Giles > Date: 14/5/24 8:02 pm (GMT+10:00) > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Scoop (jazz notation) > > Hi All, I have been looking

RE: Scoop (jazz notation)

As a sax playing, big band copyist Lilypond user I think that's a great suggestion.Laurie SavageSent from my Galaxy Original message From: Tim Giles Date: 14/5/24 8:02 pm (GMT+10:00) To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Scoop (jazz notation) Hi All, I have been looking

Re: Scoop (jazz notation)

Hi Tim, > I have been looking for a way to write "scoops", a fairly common effect in > saxophone jazz. Have you searched the list archive? e.g., https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2024-04/msg00125.html Hope that helps! Kieren. __ My

Scoop (jazz notation)

Hi All, I have been looking for a way to write "scoops", a fairly common effect in saxophone jazz. This is written as an upwards curve before the note head, and indicates that the note starts low and quickly slides upwards to the written pitch.  Paul Scott posted a script which can notate

Re: Spacing in mensural notation

ther related setting. Sorry, I was unclear:  you are likely to _need_ ragged-right, otherwise the right-justification of the staves will trump the tight spacing of the mensural notation. > > What I meant by the other remark was exactly what you did when you > said "\break is your f

Re: Spacing in mensural notation

_ From: Graham King Sent: 08 May 2024 10:20 To: Giles Boardman ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Spacing in mensural notation Hi Giles, please copy the list: it helps others, and you might get better advice than I can offer. Thoughts interspersed below... On Wed, 20

Re: Spacing in mensural notation

anges under control, a revision control system such as git is invaluable. For searching the documentation, the index in the back of the Notation Reference (NR) is invaluable.  And the Snippets Repository at https://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/ and the mailing list archive at https://lists.gnu.org/archive/

Re: Spacing in mensural notation

than to repoduce the pages, which are quite > elegant and legible enough already. > > Thanks for your help > > Best > > Giles > > From: Graham King > Sent: 07 May 2024 14:19 > To: Giles Boardman ; lilypond- > u...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Spacing in men

Re: Spacing in mensural notation

On Tue, 2024-05-07 at 09:18 +, Giles Boardman wrote: > By the way, I know it's not a Lilypond question, but if anyone can > tell me how to interpret "Verte"(?) that would be a help too. Sorry, I missed this part of your question. It just means "turn (the page)" - much like the modern "V.S."

Re: Spacing in mensural notation

I had a similar question a while back [1], which Harm kindly solved. Try something like this (it should work in older versions of lilypond): %~~~ \version "2.23.10" \header { title = "Odhekaton" composer = "Obrecht" piece = "Alto" } \paper { ragged-right = ##t }

Re: Spacing in mensural notation

Hi Giles, > I am new to Lilypond Welcome! > I would like to remove the space from around the notes and bunch them up like > in the original. I tried a couple of things I found that looked relevant - > they're commented out in my snippet - and "\compressEmptyMeasures" but to no > avail .

Spacing in mensural notation

Hello, I am new to Lilypond, cutting my teeth on a couple of pretty simple layouts - this exercise is to reproduce a page of a Petrucci score. [X] I'm thrilled with this [cid:710639fb-021d-4038-8cea-e057f36c7914] but I would like to remove the space from around the notes and

Re: Special notation question

Am So., 21. Apr. 2024 um 17:43 Uhr schrieb Xavier Mayeur : > Hello, > > In a \time 3/2 score, how can I write the following snippet in Lilypond? > > > > I wonder how to create the 'g' note with that special appearance and with > the right duration... > > -- > Cordialement, > > Xavier MAYEUR >

Re: Special notation question

Dear Xavier, I think this is called "void notation". I write it in the following way (including an example of how to write whole notes), but it is very time-consuming, and perhaps someone else has an easier way to automatically write music like this. Thanks, -William % ---

Special notation question

Hello, In a \time 3/2 score, how can I write the following snippet in Lilypond? I wonder how to create the 'g' note with that special appearance and with the right duration... -- Cordialement, Xavier MAYEUR Bruxelles

Re: String pressure notation

On 2024-04-14 8:45 pm, Richard Davis wrote: In my head, whatever implementation this requires would somehow "collect" these levels and generate the final shape as necessary. However, I don't know nearly enough scheme to even know where to begin on this. The reddit contributor to the original

Re: String pressure notation

On 2024-04-16 12:46 pm, Dimitri Sykias wrote: Is it possible to make the text italic? I tried \tweak text \italic “x” and it didn’t work. You need to specify \markup: \tweak text \markup \italic x -- Aaron Hill

Re: String pressure notation

Is it possible to make the text italic? I tried \tweak text \italic “x” and it didn’t work. Thanks > On 16 Apr 2024, at 2:17 PM, Archer Endrich wrote: > > Thank you, Aaron. I'm absolutely delighted to know how to do this now as it > occurs in several of my earlier scores that I'm

Re: String pressure notation

Thank you, Aaron.  I'm absolutely delighted to know how to do this now as it occurs in several of my earlier scores that I'm re-engraving with Lilypond. Archer On 16/04/2024 12:03, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2024-04-16 3:59 am, Aaron Hill wrote: What you are looking for, however, can be done with

Re: String pressure notation

On 2024-04-16 4:03 am, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2024-04-16 3:59 am, Aaron Hill wrote: What you are looking for, however, can be done with horizontal/analysis brackets: \version "2.25.13" \new Voice \with { \consists Horizontal_bracket_engraver } { b'4 -\tweak layer 0 -\tweak direction

Re: String pressure notation

On 2024-04-16 3:59 am, Aaron Hill wrote: What you are looking for, however, can be done with horizontal/analysis brackets: \version "2.25.13" \new Voice \with { \consists Horizontal_bracket_engraver } { b'4 -\tweak layer 0 -\tweak direction #UP -\tweak bracket-flare #'(0 . 0)

Re: String pressure notation

On 2024-04-16 3:41 am, Archer Endrich wrote: Hello Richard, Your bow-pressure graphic looks great, and I hope your question about horizontal proportions can be answered soon. Another feature of your illustration is relevant to my wish list:  the downward-pointing brackets with 9" in the

Re: String pressure notation

lease forgive me if I ask obvious or poorly-worded questions. I am looking for a way to achieve the standard graphic notation for bow pressure on string instruments, as shown in the attached image. I asked on reddit and was able to get a suggestion as follows: \version "2.25.13" #(define

Re: String pressure notation

oductive, but I also don't quite understand how to go about that. Hi, Richard. I was the one helping you on Reddit. I think the best option is to create a custom grob and engraver for this type of notation. In fact, a more generalized continuous controller notation (with MIDI output) wou

Re: New package implementing support for The Helmholtz-Ellis Just Intonation (HEJI) pitch notation system

, Mar 19, 2024 at 11:30 AM Gylfi wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > I want to share with the community some work I've been doing on > implementing proper support for the HEJI notation system in LilyPond. I > wouldn't call it stable quite yet, as I'm still open to making bre

New package implementing support for The Helmholtz-Ellis Just Intonation (HEJI) pitch notation system

Greetings everyone, I want to share with the community some work I've been doing on implementing proper support for the HEJI notation system in LilyPond. I wouldn't call it stable quite yet, as I'm still open to making breaking changes to the interface based on feedback. However, I would say

Re: Rousseau's boustrophedon notation [but OT, really]

supposed "boustrophedon" notation. > The citation does not link to the image in question, which is an unfortunate > oversight. I was curious whether this approach applied only to Rousseau's > numeric notation or if it was intended to work with standard notation. I > suspe

RE: Rousseau's boustrophedon notation

Aaron, One in Arabic: https://www.quora.com/Musical-notation-is-written-from-left-to-right-but-Ara bic-is-written-from-right-to-left-How-is-it-possible-to-show-the-words-and-m usic-for-songs-in-Arabic One for mixed quintette: https://www.sheetmusicdirect.com/en-US/se/ID_No/552679/Product.aspx

Rousseau's boustrophedon notation

Just read a side note on Wikipedia about a supposed "boustrophedon" notation. The citation does not link to the image in question, which is an unfortunate oversight. I was curious whether this approach applied only to Rousseau's numeric notation or if it was intended to work with

bar lines shift when using proportional notation

Hi LilyPonders, I would like to notate a piece proportionally. To do this, I have created (with a little help) a markup command that I can use to place time signatures above the bar lines. But as soon as I do this, they move to the left, whereas the bar lines are in the right place if I don't

Re: Drum notation and style

On 2024-01-20 06:33, Adrian wrote: is it possible to create a "z" stem for buzz rolls? Maybe esmuflily is useful for you. The following requires no extra font and achieves horizontal beams in two ways: manual beams and an empty tremolo

Re: Drum notation and style

Yes, it very likely is not formally correct. As pointed out in the original post: > I'm not sure if the bottom version is formally correct, but I would like the > option to display a roll like that anyways. Where the original notation (bottom version not produced by LilyPond) was: [2020

Re: Drum notation and style

Hello Adrian, Being a drummer, I'm certain there is something wrong in the sticking off the roll the way you wrote it (see screen capture below) [cid:466e02cf-022d-4c6f-9e53-7a137f8740ef] I did a small example with the "unfolded roll" so you can see what I mean. Maybe what you want to do is

Re: Drum notation and style

Thanks to everyone who offered solutions and advice, very happy and excited to be able to use LilyPond to accomplish everything I set out to do. Everything has been resolved! [Screenshot 2024-01-20 183043.png] This is the code that made the drumroll equivalent to the original image for future

Re: Drum notation and style

On 2024-01-20 06:33, Adrian wrote: is it possible to create a "z" stem for buzz rolls? Maybe this helps: \version "2.24.0" % Buzz rolls with stem down % Second parameter values: %  4.0 puts the z on the middle line %  3.5 puts the z on the 2nd space up %  3.0 puts the z on the

Re: Drum notation and style

On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 7:35 AM Adrian wrote: > > First, how would you create extra spacing between staves, such as the > first two above? > This looks like a job for system-system-spacing (or maybe staff-staff-spacing): \paper { system-system-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 12)

Re: Drum notation and style

drum rolls ([notating rolls – Adam Holmes (adamholmesmusic.com)](https://adamholmesmusic.com/blog-notating-rolls/), is it possible to create a "z" stem for buzz rolls? Also, if there is anyone well versed in percussion notation, is the above example of a drum roll appropriate,

Re: Drum notation and style

; and doesn't alter the font. Sorry, my bad I did a copy-paste of your message without checking. \override Lyrics.LyricText.font-name = "Font Name" (LyricText, not LyricsText) By the way if you use Frescobaldi the autocomplete should highlight/give you the correct syntax. And the name of t

Re: Drum notation and style

Adrian writes: > Thanks for the reply, and apologies for not replying to all. However, > > \override Lyrics.LyricsText.font-name = "Font Name" > > returns the following warning: > > warning: not a grob name, `LyricsText' > > and doesn't alter the font. It's actually LyricText . -- David

Re: Drum notation and style

Thanks for the reply, and apologies for not replying to all. However, \override Lyrics.LyricsText.font-name = "Font Name" returns the following warning: warning: not a grob name, `LyricsText' and doesn't alter the font. On Friday, January 19th, 2024 at 2:45 AM, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > On

Re: Drum notation and style

On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 01:42, Adrian wrote: > > How would you change the font of the lyrics? > > \override LyricsText.font-name = "Font Name" > > doesn't work yet throws no error. At the moment, I haven't found a method to identify the name of the object to style or the name of the style property

Re: Drum notation and style

Thanks, Xavier, for the instructions for lyrics above the staff - I'd tried multiple times to do this without success! There's always a solution with LilyPond! On 2024-01-18 13:02, Xavier Scheuer wrote: On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 at 21:26, Stu McKenzie wrote: > > I often use Lyrics to provide

Re: Drum notation and style

On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 at 21:26, Stu McKenzie wrote: > > I often use Lyrics to provide sticking. Hello, That would have been my suggestion as well, especially if you want the sticking to be horizontally aligned. > The lyrics are below the staff, but this can be changed. Personally, I've had

Re: Drum notation and style

nuary 18, 2024 13:47 To: Sebastien Richard Subject: Re: Drum notation and style Thanks for the help, The solution by YTG 1234: \override StaffGroup.SpanBar.color = "slateblue" \override Score.SystemStartBar.color = "slateblue" works perfectly. And the solution for two lines of s

Re: Drum notation and style

Sorry all, I forgot to delete the original email in my reply ... BR, --- Sébastien RICHARD

Drum notation and style

specifying the color of the bar lines that connect staves and the entire opening bar line Just looking through the list of layout objects in the internals documentation, I think you need to override the color of SpanBar and SystemStartBar, like %%% \override StaffGroup.SpanBar.color =

Re: Separation of the musical notation.

Thanks for the indication. I did not know \markup could be used to place entire scores on the page. Le 16.11.23 à 16:08, Kieren MacMillan a écrit : Hi all, No idea how to do it with Lilypond, may-be other people have an idea. \version "2.25.2" teststaff = \new Staff \repeat unfold 12 c''4

Re: Separation of the musical notation.

Hi all, > No idea how to do it with Lilypond, may-be other people have an idea. \version "2.25.2" teststaff = \new Staff \repeat unfold 12 c''4 test = \new ChoirStaff << \teststaff \teststaff \teststaff >> \markup { \fill-line { \score { \test } \score { \test } } } > As for me, I

Re: Separation of the musical notation.

No idea how to do it with Lilypond, may-be other people have an idea. As for me, I would do this kind of thing using Lilypond to produce two separate pages of smaller size, and use Scribus to arrange the partial PDF files on the final page and produce the final PDF. Silvain Scribus

Separation of the musical notation.

Good morning everyone! Can you tell me if it is possible to make such a division of the sheet music in lilypond? If anyone knows, please tell me.Юрий Виноградов

Overpressure Graphic Notation Spanner

Hello, I am wondering if anyone can assist me with a custom spanner. I do not have any example code, but I have code for a vibrato spanner which I believe could be modified for this purpose. Sometimes a scratch sound on a string instrument is notated with a spanner that increases in size. I have

Re: barline in proportional notation disappear

> Thank you sooo much for your answer! > That’s amazing, it’s really clear and I’ll take a deep look at it! > What is MusicSE? I cannot find anything on google. Can u point me out to the > reference u said? > Cheers! As Jean said it is the music stackexchange thing. You’ve accidently replied

Re: barline in proportional notation disappear

Hello, this was also posted on MusicSE, for reference here my reply: You are not getting some barlines as s1^"text" \bar "!" will insert the bar line after the skip, which is in your case in a random position later. Rather do \bar "!" s1^"text" to have the bar line at the exact

barline in proportional notation disappear

Hello, A while back, I reached out to this mailing list seeking assistance in building a Csound to LilyPond converter. What I had in mind was a tool to enhance the readability and presentation of Csound scores using LilyPond. For context, the Csound score format I'm working with is relatively

Re: Nested tuplet ratio notation

Hi Valentin, amazing, thank you! Lib On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 at 11:03, Valentin Petzel wrote: > > My function takes an optional hook for inserting such overrides: > > \override TupletNumber.font-series = #'bold > > Or you can do a general override in a layout block: > > \override

Re: Nested tuplet ratio notation

My function takes an optional hook for inserting such overrides: \override TupletNumber.font-series = #'bold Or you can do a general override in a layout block: \override StandaloneRhythm.TupletNumber.font-series = #'bold Cheers, Valentin Am Mittwoch, 2. August 2023, 08:04:31 CEST schrieb Lib

Re: Nested tuplet ratio notation

Hi Valentin On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 16:08, Valentin Petzel wrote: > > Hi Lib, > > Am Dienstag, 1. August 2023, 11:21:31 CEST schrieb Lib Lists: > > Hi Valentin, > > I'm speechless, that's absolutely wonderful and useful, thank you so much! > > glad you like it > > > The only comment I have is that

Re: Nested tuplet ratio notation

Hi Lib, Am Dienstag, 1. August 2023, 11:21:31 CEST schrieb Lib Lists: > Hi Valentin, > I'm speechless, that's absolutely wonderful and useful, thank you so much! glad you like it > The only comment I have is that the numbers and the ratio symbol are > not Italic, but from your code I cannot

Re: Nested tuplet ratio notation

Hi Valentin, I'm speechless, that's absolutely wonderful and useful, thank you so much! The only comment I have is that the numbers and the ratio symbol are not Italic, but from your code I cannot understand why. Cheers, Lib On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 00:46, Valentin Petzel wrote: > > Hello Jean,

Re: Nested tuplet ratio notation

Hello Jean, Hello Lib, in fact rather than constructing a tuplet marking using markup we can directly use a real tuplet number in the \rhythm markup: \rhythm { % Change padding of Tuplet to be relative to size of Number, % so that distance to bracket does not depend on fontsize

Re: Nested tuplet ratio notation

On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 14:50, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > Le vendredi 28 juillet 2023 à 10:57 +0300, Lib Lists a écrit : > > The solution was to build the tuplet number text as a markup. I wonder if > there is a way to specify the alignment of the tuplet number with the tuplet > bracket instead

Re: Nested tuplet ratio notation

Le vendredi 28 juillet 2023 à 10:57 +0300, Lib Lists a écrit : > The solution was to build the tuplet number text as a markup. > I wonder if there is a way to specify the alignment of the tuplet > number with the tuplet bracket instead of specifying paddings and > offsets as I did. This already

Re: Nested tuplet ratio notation

The solution was to build the tuplet number text as a markup. I wonder if there is a way to specify the alignment of the tuplet number with the tuplet bracket instead of specifying paddings and offsets as I did. Anyway this works well visually: \version "2.25.5" \new Staff { \relative c'

Nested tuplet ratio notation

Hello, I'm testing different ways to notate the top-staff rhythm in the example below (a 25:16 tuplet over two bars, or a quintuplet built on four notes of another quintuplet). I have a couple of problems: 1. I'd like to notate the first staff ratio as in the attached image, but I have no idea

Re: Proportional duration and cross-staff notation

gt; > \clef bass > > \stemUp b8[ c' \up c' b] > > \down b8[ \up c' b] > > \down c'[ \up c'] > > \down b8 \up c' b > >} > > > >>> > > > > \layout { > > \context { > >\Score > >proport

Re: Proportional duration and cross-staff notation

\override SpacingSpanner.uniform-stretching = ##t > } > }} > %%%% > >> 30 maj 2023 kl. 12:41 skrev Jean Abou Samra : >> >> Le lundi 29 mai 2023 à 10:45 +0200, Lib Lists a écrit : >> >>> Hello, >>> >&

Re: Proportional duration and cross-staff notation

\override SpacingSpanner.uniform-stretching = ##t } }} > 30 maj 2023 kl. 12:41 skrev Jean Abou Samra : > > Le lundi 29 mai 2023 à 10:45 +0200, Lib Lists a écrit : > >> Hello, >> >> I am trying to reproduce the notation used in Ligeti's 'Der Zauberl

Re: Proportional duration and cross-staff notation

Le lundi 29 mai 2023 à 10:45 +0200, Lib Lists a écrit : > Hello, > > I am trying to reproduce the notation used in Ligeti's 'Der > Zauberlehrling' piano etude. See attached a fragment from the original > and my attempt in Lilypond. > > Everything works fine, except tha

Re: Lower-case base note chord notation

Thank you very much! This works for the lower-case letters! I'm seeing D/f♯ etc. I should probably have mentioned that I'm using German note names for input, making it impossible to use the bes notation. My apologies. Here is a minimal example including your fix. \version "2

Re: Lower-case base note chord notation

in something like: > > B♭ E♭/b♭ F/b♭ C/e D/f♯ > > This is the standard scheme used in Danish notation, btw. > > I looked at the chord names alternatives snippet, but it's much too > complicated for me to figure out, I'm afraid. Try this:

Lower-case base note chord notation

Greetings! Is it possible to define a chord-naming scheme with upper-case chord names in semi-german, but bass notes similar to the default style but lower-case. This would result in something like: B♭ E♭/b♭ F/b♭ C/e D/f♯ This is the standard scheme used in Danish notation, btw. I looked

Re: Modal notation

Le vendredi 21 avril 2023 à 10:49 +, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > > 2. More seriously: if I don’t include a Lyrics line, all notes get > > smushed together. > > Yes, the horizontal spacing is problematic, and nobody works on it, > alas. Try ``` \layout { \override

Re: Modal notation

> 1. I’m not finding a symbol for a “plica”: single note with >ascending or descending tail on both sides. Does that exist? Yes, see attached image, but there isn't an explicit command to access it. You have to use ligatures; look up the documentation for `\deminutum`. > 2. More

Modal notation

I’m trying to notate 1200-ish School of Notre Dame modal notation, and the Gregorian notation works out reasonably well. 1. I’m not finding a symbol for a “plica”: single note with ascending or descending tail on both sides. Does that exist? 2. More seriously: if I don’t include a Lyrics line

Re: flageolet is not listed in the index portion of the Notation Reference

> I was searching in the Index for 'flageolet' instead of '\flageolet'. > I global search of 'flageolet' and following every result determined > this. This is an artifact of our ancient `texi2html` version which are we are currently still forced to use. In the PDF manual, the index entries look

Re: flageolet is not listed in the index portion of the Notation Reference

m 'flageolet' is not listed in the index portion of the > Notation Reference. > > Thanks, > Ken Wolcott

flageolet is not listed in the index portion of the Notation Reference

Hi; The term 'flageolet' is not listed in the index portion of the Notation Reference. Thanks, Ken Wolcott

Re: Double bar notation in middle of measure

Huh, I (obviously) didn't realize that \bar didn't do bar checks; it didn't even occur to me that it might not, so I didn't try it. Thanks! Evan On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 12:42 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 07:31 +0100, Jean-Julien Fleck a écrit : > > Have you tried

Re: Double bar notation in middle of measure

Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 07:31 +0100, Jean-Julien Fleck a écrit : > Have you tried ? > It seems to me that \bar doesn't perform any bar-check as to be able to break > a line inside a mesure, you just insert an invisible bar with \bar "" `\bar ""` is actually not necessary or recommended

Re: Double bar notation in middle of measure

Hello Evan, Le ven. 17 févr. 2023 à 06:12, Evan Driscoll a écrit : > I'm trying to re-engrave part of a part that has an admittedly-weird > double bar indication in the middle of a measure. You can see what I mean, > with context, here: https://imgur.com/BnpooBh (measure 49, aka C). > > How can

Double bar notation in middle of measure

I'm trying to re-engrave part of a part that has an admittedly-weird double bar indication in the middle of a measure. You can see what I mean, with context, here: https://imgur.com/BnpooBh (measure 49, aka C). How can I get that in Lilypond? Obviously `\bar "||"` will give a failed barcheck. I

Re: German notation

On 2023-01-30 13:04, Wols Lists wrote: A quick search tells me the violin plays in the treble clef, which I doubt is what you mean? I'm guessing the violin clef is one of the C clefs, but which one? I know Tenor and Alto.

Re: German notation

On 2023-01-30 10:43, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: By the way, there also exists the opposite: In (older?) scores of symphonies by Anton Bruckner, the violoncello part, if using the violin clef, is notated

Re: German notation

On 30/01/2023 12:37, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Strange transposition rules also exist for horns, where in the violin clef you transpose down, and in the bass clef you transpose up. Violin clef? Sorry, bad translation from German: I meant horn parts notated with a treble clef. That's fine :-)

Re: German notation

>> Strange transposition rules also exist for horns, where in the >> violin clef you transpose down, and in the bass clef you transpose >> up. > > Violin clef? Sorry, bad translation from German: I meant horn parts notated with a treble clef. Werner

Re: German notation

On 29/01/2023 20:39, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Strange transposition rules also exist for horns, where in the violin clef you transpose down, and in the bass clef you transpose up. Violin clef? A quick search tells me the violin plays in the treble clef, which I doubt is what you mean? I'm

Re: German notation

les across (recent) scores that don't adhere to it any more. Cf. https://colindorman.com/old-vs-new-notation-bass-clef/ Lukas

Re: German notation

Have I missed delivery of some posts? I can't see where the OP has clarified what he means. Andrew

Re: German notation

On 29/01/2023 18:03, Christian wrote: As a trombone player myself: yes, bass clef in anything else than concert pitch is weird... to us. But it's pretty common with bass clarinet (bass clef in b/flat or in a) and low horn parts (bass clef in f). Bass clef in F? Just pull the trigger and keep

Re: German notation

On 29/01/2023 17:46, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: Bass clef for bass clarinet is not mentioned in Strauss-Berlioz (Study of instrumentation), but e.g. Rachmaninoff uses it routinely (2nd symphony, Symphonic Dances, Isle of the Dead). I'm certain Werner will be able to provide more details .

Re: German notation

As a trombone player myself: yes, bass clef in anything else than concert pitch is weird... to us. But it's pretty common with bass clarinet (bass clef in b/flat or in a) and low horn parts (bass clef in f). Best regards, Christian Wol schrieb am So., 29. Jän. 2023, 18:21: > On 29/01/2023

Re: German notation

historically quite involved) notation conventions. Bass clef for bass clarinet is not mentioned in Strauss-Berlioz (Study of instrumentation), but e.g. Rachmaninoff uses it routinely (2nd symphony, Symphonic Dances, Isle of the Dead). I'm certain Werner will be able to provide more details

Re: German notation

On 29/01/2023 10:03, Mark Knoop wrote: I think Wim may be referring to the various standards of transposing the B-flat bass clarinet. - either in bass clef a major 2nd higher than sounding (as in this Strauss excerpt) IME (I'm a trombone player) this is extremely unusual. I've met maybe

Re: German notation

If it’s bass clarinet notation we’re talking about then all that’s needed is transpose up one octave and make the clef treble throughout. hth Damian > On 29 Jan 2023, at 09:55, Thomas Scharkowski > wrote: > > Hi Wim, > > I looked at the score of the Menuet - I do

Re: German notation

ransposed > as usual. I still do not understand what you mean by „German“ and > „French notation“. > Thomas > BTW: The French Horn parts (4 Corni) are also transposed, these are in > F (french: Fa). >> Am 29.01.2023 um 10:29 schrieb Wim van Dommelen : >> >> Hi T

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