Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/5/10 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: I'm wondering whether we should advertise \shape more. It's tremendously helpful, and yet despite it had been added ~1 year ago (IIRC) many users don't know about it. I'm somewhat dubious about

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/5/10 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: I'm wondering whether we should advertise \shape more. It's tremendously helpful, and yet despite it had been added ~1 year ago (IIRC) many users don't know

lilynet down?

2013-05-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, lilynet.net seems to be down. Do you know anything about it? Maybe the domain has expired or something (maybe this http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-05/msg00077.html wasn't scam after all?).. Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: lilynet down?

2013-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: Hi, lilynet.net seems to be down. Do you know anything about it? Maybe the domain has expired or something (maybe this http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-05/msg00077.html wasn't scam after all?).. The Chinese registrar

Fatal bug in strftime?

2013-05-11 Thread Peter Toye
When I try to use the %e format to get rid of leading zeros in the date, lilypond crashes out. \header { title = title composer = no-one tagline = \markup { Engraved \simple #(strftime %e/%m/%Y (localtime (current-time))) with \with-url #http://lilypond.org/; \line {

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/5/11 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com I'm 100% for automated typesetting: it's my dream and the very reason why i'm using LilyPond. However, my experience (particularly with Fried project) shows that with regard to slurs and ties, LilyPond is very far from automated typesetting.

How to remove time signatures in part of the score

2013-05-11 Thread Peter Toye
I want to remove the time signature in part of the score without losing the bar count. I've tried this, but it doesn't seem to work - I get the default 4/4 time sig. What am I doing wrong? OboePart= { \new Voice \with { \remove Time_signature_engraver } { \compressFullBarRests

Re: lilynet down?

2013-05-11 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/5/11 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com Hi, lilynet.net seems to be down. Do you know anything about it? Maybe the domain has expired or something (maybe this http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-05/msg00077.html wasn't scam after all?).. Janek the domain

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/5/11 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: 2013/5/11 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com I'm 100% for automated typesetting: it's my dream and the very reason why i'm using LilyPond. However, my experience (particularly with Fried project) shows that with regard to slurs and ties,

How to position whole-bar rests?

2013-05-11 Thread Peter Toye
I'm trying to position whole-bar rests onto the bottom line of the staff to keep them out of the way of the cues, and can't get it to work. I'm still a newbie, and have found out about the \rest command, but this gives me two problems: 1) it doesn't apply to whole bar rests, so the horizontal

Re: How to remove time signatures in part of the score

2013-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Could you stop posting HTML copies of your articles? The formatting is all off in them. Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com writes: I want to remove the time signature in part of the score without losing the bar count. I've tried this, but it doesn't seem to work - I get the default 4/4 time

Re: Fatal bug in strftime?

2013-05-11 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/5/11 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com When I try to use the %e format to get rid of leading zeros in the date, lilypond crashes out. \header { title = title composer = no-one tagline = \markup { Engraved \simple #(strftime %e/%m/%Y (localtime (current-time))) with

Re: How to position whole-bar rests?

2013-05-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/5/11 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com: I'm trying to position whole-bar rests onto the bottom line of the staff to keep them out of the way of the cues, and can't get it to work. I'm still a newbie, and have found out about the \rest command, but this gives me two problems: 1) it doesn't

Re: How to position whole-bar rests?

2013-05-11 Thread Peter Toye
Thomas, Sorry - here it is. RestText= {e2\rest} OboePart= { \time 2/4 { \relative c' { \repeat unfold 9 {\RestText }| } \new CueVoice \relative c'' { \stemUp r4 r8. a16 | c8. b16 c8 d | e4 e8. c16 | e8 r16 d d8 b | g4. g8 |

Re: Fatal bug in strftime?

2013-05-11 Thread and...@andis59.se
On 2013-05-11 11:27, Federico Bruni wrote: 2013/5/11 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com When I try to use the %e format to get rid of leading zeros in the date, lilypond crashes out. \header { title = title composer = no-one tagline =

Re: How to position whole-bar rests?

2013-05-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/5/11 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com: Thomas, Sorry - here it is. RestText= {e2\rest} OboePart= { \time 2/4 { \relative c' { \repeat unfold 9 {\RestText }| } \new CueVoice \relative c'' { \stemUp r4 r8.

Re: Fatal bug in strftime?

2013-05-11 Thread Eluze
Federico Bruni-5 wrote 2013/5/11 Peter Toye lt; lilypond@ gt; When I try to use the %e format to get rid of leading zeros in the date, lilypond crashes out. using a short example it does (crash) on windows 7 64 in all versions since 2.12.3! Eluze -- View this message in context:

Re:many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread Kevin Patrick Barry
Or the post processing would have been done using inkscape or some similar tool... At any rate, \shape is no substitute to fixing LilyPond's typesetting of slurs. It's a stop-gap measure tied into a particular version of LilyPond and loosely tied into a particular version of a score.

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread Urs Liska
Am 11.05.2013 11:15, schrieb Janek Warchoł: 2013/5/11 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: 2013/5/11 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com ... Quite frankly, if we didn't have \shape, i'd say that LilyPond was incapable of handling Fried project :( I think I missed this project, all I can

Re: Fatal bug in strftime?

2013-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
and...@andis59.se and...@andis59.se writes: On 2013-05-11 11:27, Federico Bruni wrote: 2013/5/11 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com When I try to use the %e format to get rid of leading zeros in the date, lilypond crashes out. \header { title =

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: Sure, we're working on it with Urs (progressing slowly). It'd be nice for LilyPond Report, but frankly i think we should rather create a multi-author blog - it would be easier to keep it active. A multi-author blog sounds pretty much the same as

Re: How to position whole-bar rests?

2013-05-11 Thread Peter Toye
Thomas, Many thanks. In fact, all I had to do was to override the staff position of the MultiMeasureRest and it's now fine. Didn't have to change the voices at all. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, May 11, 2013, 11:13:08

Re: How to remove time signatures in part of the score

2013-05-11 Thread Peter Toye
David, Thanks. But \omit isn't in the documentation (at least, a search in the PDF fails to find it). How does one find out how to use it please? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Set midi volume per voice?

2013-05-11 Thread ghe
Is it possible to set the volume of the midi tracks for each different track? Till now I have: one = { a b c d } two = { d e f g } global = { \key b \minor } \score { \new Staff \new Voice = vone { \voiceOne \global \one } \new Voice = vtwo { \voiceTwo \global \two } \midi {

Re: Fatal bug in strftime?

2013-05-11 Thread Andrew Bernard
FWIW, the strftime procedure with this format works fine under Arch Linux, and lilypond 2.17.14. Also, typing the scheme expression directly in the REPL for guile 1.8.8, it works just fine. So, since the Windows users on the list can confirm it, and the Linux users cannot, it may be worth

Re: How to remove time signatures in part of the score

2013-05-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/5/11 Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com: David, Thanks. But \omit isn't in the documentation (at least, a search in the PDF fails to find it). How does one find out how to use it please? Best regards, Peter Well, that's the reason why I asked you (in the other thread) to include the

Re: How to remove time signatures in part of the score

2013-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com writes: Re: How to remove time signatures in part of the score David, Thanks. But \omit isn't in the documentation (at least, a search in the PDF fails to find it). How does one find out how to use it please? Obviously, this depends on the version of LilyPond

Re: How to remove time signatures in part of the score

2013-05-11 Thread Peter Toye
Thomas, Thanks. But I need the 2/4 time sig at bar 82 (bars 1-81 have such varied time sigs it's not worth while notating) - how do I do that? It's on the same staff, so I need to switch the sig on and off within the staff. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread David Nalesnik
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:58 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/5/10 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: I'm wondering whether we should advertise \shape more. It's tremendously helpful, and

Re: writing percussion notes

2013-05-11 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hey thanks for the help all of you have given. I'm writing the timpani notes as if they are regular music. I tried a new staff but that failed, probably my error lol! I read about the \drums thing but I don't quite understand how it will work after the percussionMusic equals \relative c

Hara Kiri staff behavior

2013-05-11 Thread Richard Shann
I'm currently baffled by not finding the documentation for Hara Kiri staffs. That is a staff that only has whole measure rests for a line is dropped. I thought this was the default, and I thought I had looked it up before, but now I can only find obscure (to me) references to RemoveEmptyStaves and

Re: Hara Kiri staff behavior

2013-05-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:30 PM Subject: Hara Kiri staff behavior I'm currently baffled by not finding the documentation for Hara Kiri staffs. That is a staff that only has

odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Ok. I'm in 12/8 and i put that in the \global veritable and put the \blobal veritable in every part of this score that I'm working on for the moment where it should have gone, I think. How ever, something is still up as 'm counting where the bar checks are failing and I'm getting the right

Re: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: lilly pond discuss discuss lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:25 PM Subject: odd bar check errors Ok. I'm in 12/8 and i put that in the \global veritable and put the \blobal veritable in every part of

Re: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: lilly pond discuss discuss lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:25 PM Subject: odd bar check errors (replying again to make my reply easier for Sarah to read) There's a few problems with braces { } and

RE: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Sarah: I notice that although you indicate 12/8 in the global command the score prints with C or 4/4. I am not sure how to fix this yet I am sure that it effects the bar checks. Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org

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2013-05-11 Thread ghe
Is it possible, with LilyPond, to have something like the \hfill effect in TeX, that is, fill the rest of the staff with blank space? If I type: { a b c d \break a b c d \bar |. } the layout is ugly because the notes are spread over the whole staff. I know that: \layout { ragged-right

Re: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Wim van Dommelen
Hi Sarah, Remember that error-messages do have a function. The program communicates to you that it cannot follow. Your problems start in line 14 by forgetting the opening bracket { of the \relative. But I can only guess where the closing bracket should be. The bracket don't add-up to

Re: Hara Kiri staff behavior

2013-05-11 Thread Richard Shann
On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 16:58 +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:30 PM Subject: Hara Kiri staff behavior I'm currently baffled by not finding the

Re: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Sarah k Alawami
What I mean is I want them to go back and repeat the measure once more or at least that section. so it should be instead \repeat percent 2 {what ever that music was} instead of what never Ihad? I still get confused with the braces but math was not and never will be my strong point. Most of

Re: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Uh? Odd? Did I mess up in the \global veritable some ware? That just does not make sense. 4/4 does not equal 12/8 unless you want to count everything as triplets. I hope I did not brake anything. On May 11, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Sarah: I notice

Re: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Yeah I've been trying to do that eliminating a bunch of errors along the way. bit by bit. I'll check on that later. and see where the closing right brace should be. Ty. On May 11, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Wim van Dommelen m...@wimvd.nl wrote: Hi Sarah, Remember that error-messages do have a

Re: Set midi volume per voice?

2013-05-11 Thread Nathan
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:20 PM, g...@sdf.org wrote: Hi list, Is it possible to set the volume of the midi tracks for each different track? (Sorry, I had this message in Drafts and I forgot to send it.) Use midiMinimumVolume and midiMaximumVolume to set the volume ranges of each staff or

Re: Hara Kiri staff behavior

2013-05-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: Re: Hara Kiri staff behavior On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 16:58 +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original

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2013-05-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/5/11 g...@sdf.org: Is it possible, with LilyPond, to have something like the \hfill effect in TeX, that is, fill the rest of the staff with blank space? If I type: { a b c d \break a b c d \bar |. } the layout is ugly because the notes are spread over the whole staff. I know that:

Re: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com writes: Sarah: I notice that although you indicate 12/8 in the global command the score prints with C or 4/4. I am not sure how to fix this yet I am sure that it effects the bar checks. fluteMusic = \relative c' \key g \major \global

Re: Set midi volume per voice?

2013-05-11 Thread ghe
Thank you, Nathan! Use midiMinimumVolume and midiMaximumVolume to set the volume ranges of each staff or voice. They don't seem to have any effect if you don't place any dynamics. This is exactly the information I was missing. \score {       \new Staff \with {      

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2013-05-11 Thread ghe
Thank you, Thomas! Not sure I understood correct. Though, how about: \version 2.16.2 Alas, I use 2.14.2... spaceRight = #(define-music-function (parser location space)(number?) (let* ((amount (+ space 0.5)) (space-right `(extra-space . ,amount))) #{ %% Maybe additional

two staffs in one page

2013-05-11 Thread Xavier Noria
I am writing a jazz solo and would like to have in addition to the main staff a couple of lines with the chords listed with their notes displayed. Right now I have this variable defined chordslist = \chordmode { c1:7 cs1:7 d1:m7 d1:7 d1:aug7 d1:11 d1:13 ef1:13 e1:7 e1:aug7 f1:7 g1:7 g1:aug7

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2013-05-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/5/11 g...@sdf.org: Thank you, Thomas! Not sure I understood correct. Though, how about: \version 2.16.2 Alas, I use 2.14.2... spaceRight = #(define-music-function (parser location space)(number?) (let* ((amount (+ space 0.5)) (space-right `(extra-space .

Re: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: lilly pond discuss discuss lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:32 PM Subject: Re: odd bar check errors What I mean is I want them to go back and repeat the measure once more or at least that section.

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2013-05-11 Thread ghe
You didn't mention your version. ;) Yes, sorry for that, my fault. Try the following version. Though, 2.16.2 returned better Slurs/PhrasingSlurs at linebreak: \version 2.14.2 spaceRight = #(define-music-function (parser location space)(number?) (let* ((amount (+ space 0.5))

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/5/11 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: my experience (particularly with Fried project) shows that with regard to slurs and ties, LilyPond is very far from automated typesetting. If you want publication quality, you _have_ to tweak the output quite

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2013-05-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/5/11 g...@sdf.org: Thanks a lot, this seems to work indeed! Actually I was dreaming of something like \hfill\break in TeX, so that I could either do notes \bar |. \hfill \break or notes \hfill \bar |. \break for example, but your solution is already very good. Well, you could do

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello, There will always be a need to change things, position objects to a user's preference. In that regard, it's really too bad the extremely-useful 'head' and 'stem' positioning options are no longer in Lilypond… A huge percentage of the slur tweaks I need to add are simply

Re: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Really? It's in this harpsichord score in front of me lol! and it always has been in my years as a chellist and singer. lol! I might just write it out and that's actually what I've been doing for the oboe players and bassoon. lol! Take care. On May 11, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Phil Holmes

Re: odd bar check errors

2013-05-11 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Cool cool. Well I think I'm still bar check failing even though I am counting the bars right. I put the braces where they should be I think. thanks for the advice about repeats though. i think I might or might now write out the shorter repeats. but not the longer ones. This is going to be a

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2013-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
g...@sdf.org writes: Thank you, Thomas! Not sure I understood correct. Though, how about: \version 2.16.2 Alas, I use 2.14.2... Why? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/5/11 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: my experience (particularly with Fried project) shows that with regard to slurs and ties, LilyPond is very far from automated typesetting. If you want

Re: two staffs in one page

2013-05-11 Thread Nathan
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Xavier Noria f...@hashref.com wrote: I am writing a jazz solo and would like to have in addition to the main staff a couple of lines with the chords listed with their notes displayed. [...] But what I'd really like is to have that reference at the top of