Re:[OT] Linux Users

[James Harkins]

FWIW, Emacs org-mode is a really nice way to integrate LaTeX and LilyPond for 
articles.

org-mode exports to LaTeX.

org-babel can automatically run LilyPond source blocks embedded in the org 
document, generating EPS and dropping it seamlessly into the LaTeX document. If 
you wrap the source block in a figure, you get a caption, index number and 
references for free.

hjh


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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Knut Petersen]

Am 17.11.2017 um 23:59 schrieb Brett M. Gilio:

How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of
you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than
graphical tools?

I completely switched to Linux more than 20 years ago and use *TeX for more 
than 25 years.
Today I prefer the LuaTeX engine.

I don't use Csound.

Knut


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Re: [OT] Grammatic gender

[Wols Lists]

On 18/11/17 18:18, Karlin High wrote:
> On 11/18/2017 11:33 AM, David Wright wrote:
>> You might find yourself being
>> misunderstood in more serious circumstances, if you don't allow
>> for the same words to mean different things, or even the opposite.
> 
> Reminds me of my cousin on a business trip to England. He learned that,
> unlike in America, the terms "phone card" and "calling card" are NOT
> equivalent and interchangeable.

Which is why, while I don't give a monkeys which version of English you
use (and I *most* *emphatically* *do* *not* think "Standard English" is
THE correct form of English), I really would like to know which version
you are speaking because I would like to understand you.

Calling cards pre-date phones. And while I don't know exactly where the
critters live, I think if a skunk left its calling card close by you'd
know about it! Certainly it's a damn nuisance when the foxes leave
theirs outside our doors.

Cheers,
Wol

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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Andy Bradford]

Thus said "Brett M. Gilio" on Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:59:27 -0600:

> How many Linux  users are out there in the  Lilypond community? Do any
> of you use other type-setting software  such as LaTeX or Csound rather
> than graphical tools?

I wonder if analysis of the  user-agent strings from the web server logs
for lilypond.org would be of any value in this inquiry.

Andy
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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Guy Stalnaker]

I use Lilypond within Frescobaldi on Win10, MacOS on a MacBookPro, and an old 
MacBook running LinuxMint. Frescobaldi serves all my needs. I started out using 
Frescobaldi solely on Linux my destop OS of choice for 10+ years. My 
compositions are all on Dropbox which I sync to the computers on which I use 
Frescobaldi.

Guy


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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Simon Albrecht]

On 18.11.2017 20:12, Brett M. Gilio wrote:

On 11/18/2017 07:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote:

Andrew Bernard  writes:

Hi Brett,

I use Linux for most of my work, and for all my lilypond work.

What are you trying to establish, may I ask? A statistical survey of
platform usage? Or are you really asking about what graphical tools are
available? Your query seems to have multiple aspects.

The Linux platform is strongly supported by the lilypond developers.

I seem to rememver there was some sort of usage survey on the list a
couple of years ago.

I think that most people used LilyPond with Windows, including some core
developers (who use VMs for their development activities).  Somewhat
sobering.  But certainly a good validation for the Gub setup allowing us
to provide Windows binaries that are up-to-date.

Hi David,

    I have been a GNU/Linux + Lilypond user for some years now, and I did
not know that the core developers used windows. Do you know much about
the compatibility differences between windows binaries and the original
lilypond build or is it ported directly from the build?


Hi Brett,

you misread that. _Some_ core developers use Windows in normal life, but 
they have to resort to virtual machines for development, since building 
LilyPond is only possible on Linux.
For building, GUB (Grand Unified Builder) is used, which is designed 
specifically to cross-compile LilyPond for the different platforms. For 
more on that, see the Contributors’ Guide.


Best, Simon

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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Johan Vromans]

I only use Linux (mostly Fedora).

I use LilyPond with Frescobaldi, Denemo, Emacs, LibreOffice and a lot of
homegrown tools.

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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Brett M. Gilio]

> Would it be worth setting up a survey post on lilypondblog.org?
>
I would be interested in seeing this.


Brett M. Gilio
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B.M. Music Composition
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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Brett M. Gilio]

On 11/18/2017 07:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
> Andrew Bernard  writes:
>
>> Hi Brett,
>>
>> I use Linux for most of my work, and for all my lilypond work.
>>
>> What are you trying to establish, may I ask? A statistical survey of
>> platform usage? Or are you really asking about what graphical tools are
>> available? Your query seems to have multiple aspects.
>>
>> The Linux platform is strongly supported by the lilypond developers.
>>
>> I seem to rememver there was some sort of usage survey on the list a
>> couple of years ago.
> I think that most people used LilyPond with Windows, including some core
> developers (who use VMs for their development activities).  Somewhat
> sobering.  But certainly a good validation for the Gub setup allowing us
> to provide Windows binaries that are up-to-date.
>

Hi David,

   I have been a GNU/Linux + Lilypond user for some years now, and I did
not know that the core developers used windows. Do you know much about
the compatibility differences between windows binaries and the original
lilypond build or is it ported directly from the build?


Brett M. Gilio
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Re: [OT] Grammatic gender

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2017-11-18 um 18:33 schrieb David Wright :

> On Fri 17 Nov 2017 at 17:43:09 (+), Wol's lists wrote:
> In English? So when I write "I'm at deathes door", which of deathes
> three genders am I using?

You always use deathes LAST gender. And I’m sure they have more than three.

> It's a pity you weren't around at the time "it's" and "its" were
> invented, to rebuke people who used the former. Or perhaps we could
> just admit that allowing "its" into English was one huge mistake,
> and go back to using "his". Now nobody will have to remember which
> spelling is which. Of course, any child can justify their writing
> "it's". There's an "it", it possesses something, so stick an  's
> on the end. Perhaps Shakespeare had a better reason for writing "it's".

How about "ithes"?

>> (Dialect is not Standard English, if you want to talk dialect that's
>> fine, just accept that it is not standard.)
> 
> I see. So Standard English is what you accept, and no more?
> Where do we find this Standard English? Perhaps we need an
> English Language Academy to guard this young language lest it
> be corrupted by its young speakers. We can't trust them.

Standard English is the dialect of Standardshire.

> Not knowing the people or the circumstances, I can't judge. But a
> word of warning: don't ever travel. You might find yourself being
> misunderstood in more serious circumstances, if you don't allow
> for the same words to mean different things, or even the opposite.

No, no: Word *always* mean what I intend them to mean.

And both of my grammars are dead.

EOT

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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Frauke Jurgensen]

I do! Plain TeX and LaTeX.

On 18 Nov 2017 7:29 am, "Brett M. Gilio"  wrote:

How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of
you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than
graphical tools?


BMG

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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Jacques Peron]

Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To
integrate LilyPond into LaTeX, I developped lyluatex
.
​

2017-11-18 17:24 GMT+01:00 David Bellows :

> I use Linux, Lilypond, LuaLaTeX, and Csound, editing all of it in
> emacs. This does seem like a pretty potent or at least popular
> combination.
>
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Sam Bivens  wrote:
> > I'm also a Linux user. For notation I use LilyPond (with Frescobaldi)
> > exclusively, and for any serious writing I use LaTeX.
> >
> > Although I use the lilyglyphs package in LaTeX, I've never gotten around
> to
> > using lilypond-book; instead I just autocrop my Lily PDFs and insert
> those
> > as floats.
> >
> > A quick question for others: I've used LilyPond a couple times on Mac,
> and
> > the compile times were horrendous. Are the compile times on Linux faster
> > than on other operating systems? (Unfortunately I can't remember what
> Mac OS
> > I used...)
> >
> > Sam
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Re: [OT] Grammatic gender

[Karlin High]

On 11/18/2017 11:33 AM, David Wright wrote:

You might find yourself being
misunderstood in more serious circumstances, if you don't allow
for the same words to mean different things, or even the opposite.


Reminds me of my cousin on a business trip to England. He learned that, 
unlike in America, the terms "phone card" and "calling card" are NOT 
equivalent and interchangeable.

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Re: [OT] Grammatic gender

[David Wright]

On Fri 17 Nov 2017 at 17:43:09 (+), Wol's lists wrote:
> On 17/11/17 16:10, David Wright wrote:
> >On Fri 17 Nov 2017 at 07:45:58 (-0500), Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >
> >>[Am 17.11.2017 um 08:55 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:]
> >
> >>>An apostrophe in German is a sign for something left out like "so’n Ding" 
> >>>(short for "so ein Ding"), similar to English use in "don’t" (do not).
> >>
> >>It's the same in English, naturally.
> >
> >It's just one of its uses, true. But the following sentence said:
> >
> >«"While it would make some sense to use it in "mein’s" ("meines"), while 
> >still being unnecessary, it makes no sense at all to use it in a genitive 
> >like "Lisa’s" except in cases like "Jens’s" (oldfashioned but complete would 
> >be "Jensens").»¹
> >
> >implying that something *has to be* omitted for an apostrophe to make
> >sense, but that is not true in English.
> 
> Examples, please. A suitably "grammatically correct" one, please :-)

You won't be happy with the apostrophe's shape if you don't use ’ in
Lilypond. I want to dot the i's and cross the t's before I give you
a copy. I had to buy manuscript paper back in the 1960's but LilyPond
has put paid to that. Socrates' death inspired this piece. Wichita's
last syllable rhymes with ajar if you don't pronounce your r's. The
FBI's behaviour was faultless. I tried to use somebody else's cheque
book but it was so old that it still had Barclay's Bank printed on it.
Are we providing separate facilities for V.I.P.'s to use? Westward Ho!'s
full title has 36 words. The man in the moon's smile is more of a smirk.
She comes and parks in whoever's not here's space that day.
(Apologies that they're all in English, not German.)

> >>Even the possessive "Kieren's" is derived from old English "Kierenes" 
> >>(though even most native speakers don't know that).
> >
> >Of course, they don't need to know that because English accepts
> >'s tacked onto almost anything to indicate a possessive relationship.²
> >
> Because the CORRECT possessive ending, as mentioned above, is "es".

In English? So when I write "I'm at deathes door", which of deathes
three genders am I using?

> Except it's been corrupted to " 's ".

Who's to blame for this corruption? Have they been charged?

> In other words, if you tack " 's "
> onto the end of a word to indicate the possessive, something
> HAS been omitted, namely the "e". Which is why it's wrong to use an
> apostrophe with the possessive "its", because there was never an "e"
> there in the first place.

It's a pity you weren't around at the time "it's" and "its" were
invented, to rebuke people who used the former. Or perhaps we could
just admit that allowing "its" into English was one huge mistake,
and go back to using "his". Now nobody will have to remember which
spelling is which. Of course, any child can justify their writing
"it's". There's an "it", it possesses something, so stick an  's
on the end. Perhaps Shakespeare had a better reason for writing "it's".

> >Native speakers don't learn the language by studying its derivations,
> >but by being immersed in it. At school, they are taught "rules" that
> >make it easier to cope with the areas where immersion is less than
> >total (eg writing, formal constructions).
> 
> And said rules nearly always have their roots in genuine stuff. All
> too often I agree the rules are mis-applied, especially when they
> state that a modern young construct is "more correct" than the older
> construct that preceded it, "Standard English" is a very young
> language, but I do strongly support the use of "Standard English"
> and its associated rules - one of which is that an apostrophe
> indicates omitted letters, usually in the possessive, and should not
> be used where letters have not been left out.
> 
> (Dialect is not Standard English, if you want to talk dialect that's
> fine, just accept that it is not standard.)

I see. So Standard English is what you accept, and no more?
Where do we find this Standard English? Perhaps we need an
English Language Academy to guard this young language lest it
be corrupted by its young speakers. We can't trust them.

> >Only specialists have to worry about derivations. They can't be
> >ignored when trying to tease out what the underlying rules of a
> >language really are; similarly, the mistakes made by children are
> >an important aspect of searching for those rules.
> >
> Anybody who cares about communicating should care about language.

But most native speakers don't care about language; they just use it
to communicate. Quite well, it appears. We're the unusual ones.

> And if you care about language you need to care about derivation and
> grammar and all that stuff.

So your care of the language concerns itself with examining words
that contain an apostrophe and checking back to make sure that at
least one letter has been omitted. What do you do when you find
an example that doesn't conform? Strike out the apostrophe?
Censure the 

Re: [OT] Linux Users

[David Bellows]

I use Linux, Lilypond, LuaLaTeX, and Csound, editing all of it in
emacs. This does seem like a pretty potent or at least popular
combination.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Sam Bivens  wrote:
> I'm also a Linux user. For notation I use LilyPond (with Frescobaldi)
> exclusively, and for any serious writing I use LaTeX.
>
> Although I use the lilyglyphs package in LaTeX, I've never gotten around to
> using lilypond-book; instead I just autocrop my Lily PDFs and insert those
> as floats.
>
> A quick question for others: I've used LilyPond a couple times on Mac, and
> the compile times were horrendous. Are the compile times on Linux faster
> than on other operating systems? (Unfortunately I can't remember what Mac OS
> I used...)
>
> Sam
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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Paul Scott]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 04:59:27PM -0600, Brett M. Gilio wrote:
> How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of
> you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than
> graphical tools?

I've been using Linux since 2002 and LilyPond almost as long on Debian Sid.

I use Emacs and now Zathura and thousands of alt-tab's for creating
printed music.

I have used Latex and have had no need for Csound but I will look it up.

Paul

> 
> 
> BMG
> 
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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Sam Bivens]

I'm also a Linux user. For notation I use LilyPond (with Frescobaldi) 
exclusively, and for any serious writing I use LaTeX.


Although I use the lilyglyphs package in LaTeX, I've never gotten around 
to using lilypond-book; instead I just autocrop my Lily PDFs and insert 
those as floats.


A quick question for others: I've used LilyPond a couple times on Mac, 
and the compile times were /horrendous/. Are the compile times on Linux 
faster than on other operating systems? (Unfortunately I can't remember 
what Mac OS I used...)


Sam
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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Urs Liska]

Am 18.11.2017 um 15:59 schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:

Hello,

Am 18.11.2017 um 15:44 schrieb Hwaen Ch'uqi:

However, when a mix of text and music is involved, I use LilyPond's
rather robust \markup and \markuplist commands, finding lilypond-book
to be too cumbersome or specific.
sometimes I typeset a preface text for a LilyPond document. I use a 
markup command that starts XeLaTeX to create a PDF, exports all pages 
into EPS-files with pdftops and then imports them as a markuplist. 
Sounds complicated, but is actually easy to use.


I assume this set-up doesn't have any notion of page breaks?
So it isn't possible to split the text blocks into multiple parts?.

It would be great if LIlyPond would know where *on the page* the markup 
block would start, That way it would be possible to pass that info to 
LaTeX (in the form of paper size and geometry info) and create one or 
multiple files with the typeset text, which would then just fit onto the 
remaining space on the score paper.


Urs



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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Jan-Peter Voigt]

Hello,

Am 18.11.2017 um 15:44 schrieb Hwaen Ch'uqi:

However, when a mix of text and music is involved, I use LilyPond's
rather robust \markup and \markuplist commands, finding lilypond-book
to be too cumbersome or specific.
sometimes I typeset a preface text for a LilyPond document. I use a 
markup command that starts XeLaTeX to create a PDF, exports all pages 
into EPS-files with pdftops and then imports them as a markuplist. 
Sounds complicated, but is actually easy to use.


Jan-Peter


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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[mskala]

On Fri, 17 Nov 2017, Brett M. Gilio wrote:
> How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of
> you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than
> graphical tools?

One here.  I'm not sure Csound qualifies as typesetting software, but I
use it often for synthesis, and LaTeX for typesetting.  I use Lilypond
(from the command line, usually invoked by a Makefile) for translating
between human and machine-readable music in both directions:  sometimes
I'll compose music in the form of a Lilypond file and use Lilypond to
convert it to MIDI which I can use with my hardware and software
synthesizers, and sometimes I write software that generates music in the
form of Lilypond files, which I engrave to make human-readable PDFs.  I do
pretty much of my computing in a Linux environment.

-- 
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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Hwaen Ch'uqi]

Greetings Brett,

I am a Linux user through and through. I use LilyPond with Emacs. As
for LaTeX, I find it useful when authoring purely textual documents.
However, when a mix of text and music is involved, I use LilyPond's
rather robust \markup and \markuplist commands, finding lilypond-book
to be too cumbersome or specific. I have deep interest in csound, but
the manual seems to assume so much knowledge by the perspective user
from the outset that I have simply shyed away from it - which,
incidentally, is less a criticism of the csound   manual writers as it
is ringing praise of all who have contributed to LilyPond
documentation over the years!

Hwaen Ch'uqi


On 11/18/17, Urs Liska  wrote:
> Hi Brett,
>
>
> Am 17.11.2017 um 23:59 schrieb Brett M. Gilio:
>> How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community?
>
> Numbers are not available, for sure.
> As David pointed out you'll have less Linux users than you might expect.
> But you'll have substantially more Linux users than when asking
> Finale/Sibelius/Dorico users ...
>
>> Do any of
>> you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than
>> graphical tools?
>
> As some have mentioned the use of LaTeX with LilyPond can be found.
> Maybe you'll find this interesting: http://lilypondblog.org/?s=latex
>
> Searching the blog for linux does give a few results, but I don't think
> anything specific is in these posts.
>
> Another aspect is version control which seems to be biased towards Linux
> users: http://lilypondblog.org/tag/version-control/
>
> In an earlier life I was involved in improvised electronic music using
> PureData and synthesizers. If I hadn't given that up completely I'd
> surely be using SuperCollider by now and would probably be using
> programming languages to generate PureData patches (or anything similar)
> and also generating scores from that environment using LilyPond and LaTeX.
>
> Urs
>
>>
>> BMG
>>
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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Urs Liska]

Hi Brett,


Am 17.11.2017 um 23:59 schrieb Brett M. Gilio:

How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community?


Numbers are not available, for sure.
As David pointed out you'll have less Linux users than you might expect.
But you'll have substantially more Linux users than when asking 
Finale/Sibelius/Dorico users ...



Do any of
you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than
graphical tools?


As some have mentioned the use of LaTeX with LilyPond can be found. 
Maybe you'll find this interesting: http://lilypondblog.org/?s=latex


Searching the blog for linux does give a few results, but I don't think 
anything specific is in these posts.


Another aspect is version control which seems to be biased towards Linux 
users: http://lilypondblog.org/tag/version-control/


In an earlier life I was involved in improvised electronic music using 
PureData and synthesizers. If I hadn't given that up completely I'd 
surely be using SuperCollider by now and would probably be using 
programming languages to generate PureData patches (or anything similar) 
and also generating scores from that environment using LilyPond and LaTeX.


Urs



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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Luca Rossetto Casel]

Il 17/11/2017 23:59, Brett M. Gilio ha scritto:

How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community?


Hi,

I work almost exclusively (when I'm not forced to use other systems...) 
on GNU/Linux. I moved from Windows to Ubuntu about ten yeras ago 
(phew!), and I used it until some month ago, when I switched to Manjaro 
Linux. I don't use LaTex or Csound... for now.


Luca

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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Urs Liska]

Am 18. November 2017 14:26:10 MEZ schrieb David Kastrup :
>Andrew Bernard  writes:
>
>> Hi Brett,
>>
>> I use Linux for most of my work, and for all my lilypond work.
>>
>> What are you trying to establish, may I ask? A statistical survey of
>> platform usage? Or are you really asking about what graphical tools
>are
>> available? Your query seems to have multiple aspects.
>>
>> The Linux platform is strongly supported by the lilypond developers.
>>
>> I seem to rememver there was some sort of usage survey on the list a
>> couple of years ago.
>
>I think that most people used LilyPond with Windows, including some
>core
>developers (who use VMs for their development activities).  Somewhat
>sobering.  But certainly a good validation for the Gub setup allowing
>us
>to provide Windows binaries that are up-to-date.

Would it be worth setting up a survey post on lilypondblog.org?

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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[David Kastrup]

Andrew Bernard  writes:

> Hi Brett,
>
> I use Linux for most of my work, and for all my lilypond work.
>
> What are you trying to establish, may I ask? A statistical survey of
> platform usage? Or are you really asking about what graphical tools are
> available? Your query seems to have multiple aspects.
>
> The Linux platform is strongly supported by the lilypond developers.
>
> I seem to rememver there was some sort of usage survey on the list a
> couple of years ago.

I think that most people used LilyPond with Windows, including some core
developers (who use VMs for their development activities).  Somewhat
sobering.  But certainly a good validation for the Gub setup allowing us
to provide Windows binaries that are up-to-date.

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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[J Martin Rushton]

On 17/11/17 22:59, Brett M. Gilio wrote:
> How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of
> you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than
> graphical tools?
> 
> 
> BMG

I use Lilypond+Frescobaldi on CentOS at home and Lilypond on Wikipedia
pages.



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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Andrew Bernard]

Hi Brett,

I use Linux for most of my work, and for all my lilypond work.

What are you trying to establish, may I ask? A statistical survey of
platform usage? Or are you really asking about what graphical tools are
available? Your query seems to have multiple aspects.

The Linux platform is strongly supported by the lilypond developers.

I seem to rememver there was some sort of usage survey on the list a couple
of years ago.

Andrew
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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Ben]

On 11/17/2017 5:59 PM, Brett M. Gilio wrote:

How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of
you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than
graphical tools?


BMG



Hi Brett,

I use LilyPond on a Linux Mint XFCE machine and I love it. I was a 
Windows user for many years and while I still use my Win10 box for some 
audio tasks occasionally (DAW), my engraving is 99.9% done on Mint. The 
exception being when someone needs me to submit a Finale file for a 
specific project.


I used Csound as an undergraduate but couldn't really wrap my head 
around it at the time. However, I did fall in love with Pure Data and I 
use that in my projects quite often. I use LaTeX and LilyPond only when 
writing documents or handouts for educational purposes.


What graphical tools did you mean, like GUI sound design programs - or 
programming...?



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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Jan-Peter Voigt]

Hi Brett,

I use Linux as the main operating system here and beside LilyPond I use 
LaTeX through Pandoc for text documents.
But for the LilyPond files I use Frescobaldi, which can display the 
result beside the source.


Cheers, Jan-Peter


Am 17.11.2017 um 23:59 schrieb Brett M. Gilio:

How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of
you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than
graphical tools?


BMG




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Re: [OT] Linux Users

[Blöchl Bernhard]

LaTex, Lyx and Csound are not Linux specific.
Concerning Latex, Latex uses/references to lilypond as one of the 
possible music writing tools

How to write music with LaTeX
https://martin-thoma.com/how-to-write-music-with-latex/

Indeed I think about using LaTex with Lilypond. the preprocessor called 
lilypond-book lets you mix LaTeX code with Lilypond code in one source 
file.

Sample usage: tsst.lytex contains this:

\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
\begin[quote,fragment,staffsize=26]{lilypond}
c' d' e'
\end{lilypond}
\end{document}

I used that many years ago. I do not know if it still works. I found a 
link from 2013:

http://lilypondblog.org/2013/07/creating-songbooks-with-lilypond-and-latex/
If so it might be documented in the Manual? (I have I have not used 
LaTex since abou a decade. Actually I sometime use the much more 
comfortable Lyx http://www.lyx.org/ instead of Latex. I do not know how 
to use Lilypond seamlessly - would be necessary for large music texts. 
for smaller texts The Graphics from Lilypond-Book can be inserted.


One can embed Latex code into a Lyx document. I do not know if that 
Latex snippet above will work as insert code. If I find some time I will 
try. Indeed I plan a larger music project where this might be helpful. I 
Prefer the document processor Lyx over Latex.


I have not used  csound. But I bookmarked the link for score preparation 
for future investigation

http://strasheela.sourceforge.net/strasheela/doc/MusicRepresentation.html#sec8
and I found
https://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg36498.html

Regards





Am 18.11.2017 08:31, schrieb Jaime:

What do you mean by graphical tools?
J
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 17, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Brett M. Gilio  
wrote:


How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any 
of
you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather 
than

graphical tools?


BMG

--
Brett M. Gilio
B.S. Biological Sciences
B.M. Music Composition
http://www.brettgilio.com/


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