a small correction in arithmetic expressions
Here is a small correction in the documentation which does not affect the use of Lilypond, just for the sake of correctness of the formulas... On this page <https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/music-glossary/syntonic-comma> about the syntonic comma,the arithmetic expressionscontains a mistake and some inconsistency. Addition and subtraction of intervals should be represented in the arithmetic expression by multiplication and division operators. So the first expression should be written “(9:8)^2 / (5:4) = 81:80” rather than “(9:8)^2 - 5:4 = 81:80”. For the second one, there is also a missing pair of parenthesis (or a sign error): It is written as “(3:2)^4 - (2:1)^2 + (5:4)”, but should rather be written “(3:2)^4 - ((2:1)^2 + (5:4))”. Then, replacing the addition/subtraction signs, one gets “(3:2)^4 / ((2:1)^2 * (5:4))” as the correct arithmetic expression corresponding to the textual definition — which is equal to “(3:2)^4 / (2:1)^2 / (5:4)”, if we write it without the additional pair of parenthesis. -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Numérotation des versets
Thanks for the suggestion.
This does provide a nice automatic numbering ...
but does not repeat the verse number on subsequent lines.
But I did recycle your suggestion using a modified function with one paramater
#(define nextcountstanza
(let ((counter 0))
(lambda (x)
(set! counter (+ x counter))
(string-append ( number->string counter)"."
so that I can copy-paste these expressions instead of manually putting the
right number
\set stanza = #(nextcountstanza 1) - at the betinning of each verse
\set stanza = #(nextcountstanza 0) - within the verses
Le 27.01.24 à 12:19, Ya Gloops a écrit :
#(define nextcountstanza
(let ((counter 0))
(lambda ()
(set! counter (1+ counter))
(string-append ( number->string counter)"."
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "VoiceOne" { \set stanza = #(nextcountstanza)
\VerseOne }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "VoiceOne" { \set stanza = #(nextcountstanza) \VerseTwo }
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Numérotation des versets
/Sorry for my question in French on an English-speaking forum... here is an
Englsh version/
Hello,
Is there a way to automatically repeat the verse numbers on each line
when it is defined by \set stanza = "1."
without repeating this instruction within the verse text
with this structure in the score part, lyrics being defined in variables
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "VoiceOne" { \set stanza = "1." \VerseOne }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "VoiceOne" { \set stanza = "2." \VerseTwo }
...
For a 5-verse song, it's best to repeat these verse numbers!
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Numérotation des versets
Bonjour,
Y a-t-il un moyen de répéter automatiquement les numéros de versets à chaque
ligne
définis par \set stanza = "1." ... sans répéter cette instruction à l’intérieur du texte
des versets
avec cette structure dans la partie score, les paroles étant définies dans des
variables
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "VoiceOne" { \set stanza = "1." \VerseOne }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "VoiceOne" { \set stanza = "2." \VerseTwo }
...
Pour un chant à 5 versets, il est préférable de les répéter...
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Re: Collision between accidental and tuplet
I see that it can be corrected with
\override TupletBracket.padding = 2.5
See this page
<https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/internals/tupletbracket>
\version "2.24"
\language "deutsch"
\relative c' {
\tupletUp
% corrects the collision between the "3" and the flat sign
\override TupletBracket.padding = 2.5
\times 2/3 { g'=''8 b4 } des8 h~ h4 r4
}
Le 01.01.24 à 18:36, Frank Steinmetzger a écrit :
Hello list,
while typing down the score from an old scan, I discovered a collision
between an accidental and a tuplet spanner, or rather the number in it:
\version "2.24"
\language "deutsch"
\relative c' {
\tupletUp
\times 2/3 { g'=''8 b4 } des8 h~ h4 r4
}
Perhaps this is worthy of an issue?
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Re: Separation of the musical notation.
Thanks for the indication.
I did not know \markup could be used to place entire scores on the page.
Le 16.11.23 à 16:08, Kieren MacMillan a écrit :
Hi all,
No idea how to do it with Lilypond, may-be other people have an idea.
\version "2.25.2"
teststaff = \new Staff \repeat unfold 12 c''4
test = \new ChoirStaff << \teststaff \teststaff \teststaff >>
\markup {
\fill-line {
\score { \test }
\score { \test }
}
}
As for me, I would do this kind of thing using Lilypond to produce two separate
pages of smaller size, and use Scribus to arrange the partial PDF files on the
final page and produce the final PDF.
I think it’s ultimately easier to do it natively in Lilypond…?
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Separation of the musical notation.
No idea how to do it with Lilypond, may-be other people have an idea. As for me, I would do this kind of thing using Lilypond to produce two separate pages of smaller size, and use Scribus to arrange the partial PDF files on the final page and produce the final PDF. Silvain Scribus <https://www.scribus.net/> is an open source multi-platform DTP software. It allows you to insert PDF files (as links in an image frames), adjust position and size, crop the images, add other elements, etc., and export to PDF (the original PDF being embedded as such within the final PDF). Le 16.11.23 à 14:18, Виноградов Юрий a écrit : Good morning everyone! Can you tell me if it is possible to make such a division of the sheet music in lilypond? If anyone knows, please tell me. Юрий Виноградов -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Need help displaying note names in 2.22
Le 06.08.23 à 16:59, David Kastrup a écrit :
Strange...
I tried a few things, but did not find a way to make it work.
I noticed 2 things :
1. In this association table :
chimenames =
#`(
("c" . "C")
("cis" . "C♯")
("d" . "D")
("es" . "E♭")
)
It only takes into account notes of names with one single character as
the default-name, but it does print the new-note if it has more
characters. I do not understand why...
Note names have changed to use ♯ and ♭ characters, so you need to look
up "c♯" instead of "cis".
I do not understand...
"c♯"
- is not recognized in the music description only "cis" works
- it is not recognized either in the table as (markup->string (ly:grob-property
grob 'text))
in the associative table either,
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Re: Need help displaying note names in 2.22
Strange...
I tried a few things, but did not find a way to make it work.
I noticed 2 things :
1. In this association table :
chimenames =
#`(
("c" . "C")
("cis" . "C♯")
("d" . "D")
("es" . "E♭")
)
It only takes into account notes of names with one single character as the default-name,
but it does print the new-note if it has more characters. I do not understand why...
2. In my version (2.24), I get a warning of a deprecated syntax for the
expression
{\override NoteName #'stencil = #ChimeNoteNames }
saying it should be written with a dot notation
{\override NoteName.#'stencil = #ChimeNoteNames }
and the warning disappear with this notation
Le 06.08.23 à 01:11, Viktor Mastoridis a écrit :
Hello,
I have been using the syntax below for several years; the last code update I did was in
December 2022, and it worked well since.
Today I noticed that I can't get the sharp/flat note names properly.
C# & Eb are not displayed.
Can you please help?
---
\version "2.22.1"
chimenames =
#`(
("c" . "C")
("cis" . "C♯")
("d" . "D")
("es" . "E♭")
)
ChimeNoteNames =
#(lambda (grob)
(let* ((default-name (markup->string (ly:grob-property grob 'text)))
(new-name (assoc-get default-name chimenames)))
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'text new-name)
(ly:text-interface::print grob)))
music = \relative c { c, cis d es }
\score
{
<<
\new TabStaff
\with {
stringTunings = #bass-tuning
}
{ \music }
\new NoteNames \with {\override NoteName #'stencil = #ChimeNoteNames }
{ \music }
>>
\layout { } \midi { }
}
---
Viktor Mastoridis
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Re: How to make a blank page
I tried this trick, which seems to work :
\markup " "
\pageBreak
produces a blank page
It seems that there must be something on the page for \pageBreak to produce a
page.
Of course, there is also possibilities to add blank pages to a PDF document.
Le 11.06.23 à 15:41, Paul McKay a écrit :
\version "2.24.0"
\language "en"
myScore = \score { \relative { c'4 d e f g }}
\pageBreak
\myScore
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Re: MEI to MusicXML
I have no idea... but when I record an HTML page, I can see that the score is hard encoded in SVG format (must be created by a JavaScript library from an MEI file), and it contains this information: /The present encoding in MEI 4.0.1 (with some minor customizations) is based on a previous encoding in DOX format. The DOX data were gained from optical music recognition (OMR) and proofreading processes developed and carried out by The Packard Humanities Institute, Los Altos, CA./ / / I tried to look at/ / https://music-encoding.org/ Maybe something can be found at this page: https://music-encoding.org/resources/tools.html I only find conversion tools the other way... https://www.verovio.org/musicxml.html This page indicate scripts for both ways... https://github.com/gburlet/musicxml-mei-conversion Le 28.04.23 à 10:18, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : Folks, for a blind student of mine I would like to convert MEI files from the Digital Mozart Edition https://dme.mozarteum.at/movi/en to MusicXML, which he can convert to something readable on his Braille terminal. Any idea how to do that? Werner -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Function for turning music upside-down.
How are enharmonic notes supposed to be treated in such a function? Le 28.03.23 à 00:08, Paul Hodges a écrit : I have been asked to take a piece of music (which I already have in LilyPond), and mirror it vertically. That's to say, to take each note which is n semitones above middle c and replace it with the note n semitones below middle c, and vice versa. Before I start trying to write a function to do this, I thought I'd ask if anyone has or is aware of a snippet which can already do this? Thanks, Paul -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Converting absolute to relative pitch?
I just tested it on my installation, converting a whole piece, converting the code both ways, relative to absolute and absolute to relative, and it works seamlessly, no problem. (Frescobaldi 3.2, Lilypond 2.22.2, Linux Ubuntu 22.04) In details Frescobaldi: 3.2 Extension API: 0.9.0 Python: 3.9.9 python-ly: 0.9.7 Qt: 5.15.7 PyQt: 5.15.2 sip: 4.19.24 qpageview: 0.6.2 poppler: 21.6.1 python-poppler-qt: 0.75.0 OS: Linux-5.15.0-58-generic-x86_64-with-glibc2.33 Le 26.01.23 à 05:02, Alasdair McAndrew a écrit : Hello, Frescobaldi has a function that allows you to convert between relative and absolute pitches. I have a document using absolute pitch that I'd like to concert to relative pitch. However, the Frescobaldi function does nothing when applied to a selection in my document. Maybe there's a setting I've missed. I assumed that this would be as simple as a pitch transformation, but it would seem not - at least for me. Of course, what I can do is edit out all the commas and apostrophes that define the absolute octaves, and then go back in and put in the few that I need when successive notes differ by a fifth or more. But that's a pain, and I was hoping Frescobaldi could do it for me. Any advice would be very helpful! Many thanks, Alasdair -- Alasdair McAndrew (he/him) mob: 0432 854 858 https://numbersandshapes.net -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: irrational meters
To make things clear, a /fraction/ is a mathematical expression which is a /specific representation/ of a number (or of a formal expression), comprising a numerator, a denominator, and one kind of division sign (which can be written in different ways, as there are different ways to write the operator). A /ratio/ of two numbers is a number resulting from the division of those two. It can therefore very naturally expressed as a fraction. So I have no problem considering a musical metric as a fraction! It is better not to confuse a /fraction/ (as an expression) and it's /value/ (as a /number/) — a number cannot have a numerator or a denominator! But whenever we write a fraction in a mathematical expression, it is the /value/ which is implied, not the fraction itself. So we do confuse them very commonly, like we commonly confuse a word and it's meaning in common language (and we survive quite well with this confusion). In case we need to avoid these confusions, one can use quotation marks... It can be useful or essential when teaching mathematics or when working in mathematical logic or in linguistics. Hope this clarify the matter. Silvain Le 18.01.23 à 18:51, Shane Brandes a écrit : Because terminology amuses me here. Years ago, I learned that time signatures were decidedly not fractions but ratios from a one Richard Hoffman. But even before that I learned ratios consisted of antecedents and consequents, which also seems to overlap musical structural terminology in a weird way making that also fairly useless as a nomenclature. Shane -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: irrational meters
Thanks for the reference. This wikipedia article in English does not have it's counterpart in my language (French), but a corresponding but different French article which does not mention this notion. So this term “irrational” is indeed used that way in music (at least in English) — but I still think it would be better to use the terme «non dyadic», also mentioned in the article, so as to harmonize teminology between music and maths Silvain Le 17.01.23 à 15:52, Hans Åberg a écrit : On 17 Jan 2023, at 15:20, Silvain Dupertuis wrote: I wonder about the term “irrational” meter. Should not we say “irregular” ?? as in mathematics, an irrational number is a number which cannot be represented as a fraction... The denominator is not a power of two. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature#Irrational_meters -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: irrational meters
I wonder about the term “irrational” meter. Should not we say “irregular” ?? as in mathematics, an irrational number is a number which cannot be represented as a fraction... Le 17.01.23 à 13:30, Leo Correia de Verdier a écrit : Hi Karim! Your first example seems to work to me (I don’t do irrational meters everyday, so there might be something I’m missing. I would probably write the tuplets explicitly rather than use \scaleDurations). \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction is superfluous, the time signature already does that. -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Problems with musicxml2ly
I tried this: 1. opening the file with MuseScore (3.6 portable) 2. reexporting in MusicXML format, 3, then importing the resulting file into Lilypond: Now the import works, but there are still a certain number of errors in the Lilypond file when I try to process the file (warnings are in French). I do not have the time and did not try and correcting them... AbsoluteDynamicEvent non attaché Avertissement : liaison de prolongation non terminée (3×) Avertissement : trait d'union sans suite ; escamoté and the process stops with error code 6 Le 20.12.22 à 09:36, Jacques Menu a écrit : Hello Mark, Unfortunately I do not know any way to produce a small xml that will give this error. The file I wanted was "O holy night" by Adolphe Adam (translated into English) adapted by P. Le Bas. It came from this address: https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Minuit,_chr%C3%A9tiens_(O_Holy_Night)_(Adolphe_Charles_Adam)#In_English_translation.2C_.22O_Holy_Night.22 The legend on this page is misleading: the files that can be downloaded clicking on the supposedly MusicXML icon have a ‘.mxl’ suffix, i.e. they are MuseScore files in fact: I know, it’s unfortunate that this suffix is so close to ‘.xml’… The first page this gives in the recent MuseScore 4.0.0r is: Exporting all the parts to MusicXML produces the attached O_Holy_Night.xml file. Note that MusicXML is a textual format, and one can open such files with any text editor: Here again. a suffix point: historically, MusicXML has used ‘.xml’, which is marked as obsolete by MuseScore. An attempt to change that to ‘.musicxml’ doesn’t seem to have gained approval yet, though. Converting O_Holy_Night.xml to LilyPond with: *musicxml2ly (LilyPond) 2.23.82* *Copyright (c) 2005--2022 by* * Han-Wen Nienhuys ,* * Jan Nieuwenhuizen and* * Reinhold Kainhofer * * Patrick L. Schmidt * produces the attached O_Holy_Night.ly, converted to the attached O_Holy_Night.pdf file by LilyPond. HTH! JM -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Problems with musicxml2ly
I do not think the problem is with the msl format, which is an archive containing a xml file. I tried on another mxl file directly and it worked. But it was actually a score coming from Lilypond. In the case of Minuit, I tried extracting the xml file from the mxl file and using musicxml2ly on the mxl archive gives the same result (and the same errors)... Le 20.12.22 à 09:36, Jacques Menu a écrit : Hello Mark, Unfortunately I do not know any way to produce a small xml that will give this error. The file I wanted was "O holy night" by Adolphe Adam (translated into English) adapted by P. Le Bas. It came from this address: https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Minuit,_chr%C3%A9tiens_(O_Holy_Night)_(Adolphe_Charles_Adam)#In_English_translation.2C_.22O_Holy_Night.22 The legend on this page is misleading: the files that can be downloaded clicking on the supposedly MusicXML icon have a ‘.mxl’ suffix, i.e. they are MuseScore files in fact: I know, it’s unfortunate that this suffix is so close to ‘.xml’… The first page this gives in the recent MuseScore 4.0.0r is: Exporting all the parts to MusicXML produces the attached O_Holy_Night.xml file. Note that MusicXML is a textual format, and one can open such files with any text editor: Here again. a suffix point: historically, MusicXML has used ‘.xml’, which is marked as obsolete by MuseScore. An attempt to change that to ‘.musicxml’ doesn’t seem to have gained approval yet, though. Converting O_Holy_Night.xml to LilyPond with: *musicxml2ly (LilyPond) 2.23.82* *Copyright (c) 2005--2022 by* * Han-Wen Nienhuys ,* * Jan Nieuwenhuizen and* * Reinhold Kainhofer * * Patrick L. Schmidt * produces the attached O_Holy_Night.ly, converted to the attached O_Holy_Night.pdf file by LilyPond. HTH! JM -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Score vs. Individual Parts
As far as reducing the size of the paper, if it you just need to reduce it without any change in the layout, it is easy to do it at the level of the PDF output. Just print the PDF output to a new PDF with a certain percentage of scaling and choosing a personal page size (or choosing the page size and fit to page) will do the trick. Silvain Le 13.09.22 à 07:41, Eef Weenink a écrit : Gilles Thibout made a very well lilypond library what handles all you are asking for. https://github.com/gilles-th/arranger.ly It has a steep learning line(at least my experience). Once the notes of your composition are written down, you do not need to copy them again. Check it out, it might be what you need. Met vriendelijke groet, Eef H.E. Weenink MBA Op 12 sep. 2022 om 19:28 heeft Greg Lindstrom het volgende geschreven: I have created my first full score for brass band and euphonium solo using Lilypond (and Frescobaldi). The score looks wonderful; I've had it bound at a local print shop and it looks downright professional. There are a number of things to correct and I've created an issue for each and will correct them and reengrave. Being a professional computer programmer, I went to the trouble of checking everything into a code repository (github) to ensure I can track all my changes and not lose all this work if my computer decides to die. I've ordered the Lilypond manual from Lulu and plan to read through it to learn more about Lilypond; I do much better with printed media rather than electronic. but have questions: 1. I'd like to place line and page breaks in the individual parts. Being a player, I appreciate when consideration is taken as to where page breaks fall. I have individual files for each part with the "notes" in a separate file and the score bringing everything together. Is it possible to place breaks in the part so it does not affect the score? 2. The score looks best on 11" x 17" paper but the first print shop I contacted could not spiral bind anything that large (I found another shop which could do it and I'm glad I did). I set the paper size in the score to 8.5" x 11" and while things can fit, it is extremely cramped. Is there a setting to reduce the size of everything (staves, notes, dynamics, etc.) as I reduce the paper size? 3. On the individual part, I'd like to place the instrument name in the upper left corner of the page. Currently, it is on the first staff. 4. Can I place a header on the second and following pages which would show the title and page number of the piece in a smaller font than the first page? Perhaps all of this is in the manual which will be arriving in the next few days. But any help or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help. I hope to start writing code snippets and answering questions as I gain more experience. ---greg -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi
As far as editing music sheet is concerned,Io remember having been using jEdit, a text editor written in Java, with a Lilypond extension displaying the PDF with links to the Lilypond code like Frescobaldi does it. That was a long time ago, maybe before I even had Frescobaldi, but it would be worthwhile exploring... Silvain Dupertuis . J Martin Rushton MBCS -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Amharic
On my system (Ubuntu), your amharic characters are encoded in the *Ethiopan pane* (U+1200-U+137C) and they are displayed with the FreeSerif Font For example ቱ (the third character) is defined as U+1271 ETHIOPIC SYLLABLE TU So they are _not_ in any private area. I tested them in a LilyPond file, and your amharic charaters show up normally. Looking at the properties of the PDF files, it gives these fonts : name type encoding emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - ETFDGR+C059-Roman Type 1C Custom yes yes no 7 0 MNLSBV+Emmentaler-20 Type 1C Custom yes yes no 13 0 VLWNVH+FreeSerif TrueType WinAnsi yes yes yes 9 0 So I would suggest you try and install FreeSerif on your system Look for example and fonts here <https://nextcloud.silvain-dupertuis.net/index.php/s/DCqk3R7E6wAfCac> Le 15.08.22 à 17:55, Hans Åberg a écrit : composer = "Mulatu Astatke (ሙላቱ አስታጥቄ)" -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Circles
You can draw a quasi perfect circle with a Bezier curve (cubic) with 4 main points. The optimal distance between main and secondary control points is 0.5517847391957151 * radius (you do not need as many decimal places...!) (optimal value calculated with wxMaxima and checked with Inkscape) Le 11.08.22 à 09:05, Andrew Bernard a écrit : As to the _real_ question (XY? ;-) ), I am needing to do custom circular noteheads, also with bits and bobs such as middle dots and so on and I was not able to find an arc operator in the markup path commands, so one needs to user curveto, which is a Bezier operator. Is that right? Andrew -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Circles
Both Postscript and SVG have a built-in arc function capable of drawing an arc (or an entire circle). Bézier 2-D curves can approximate a circle, but cannot create a mathematical exact circle (although an approximation using 4 points is so precise that it is practically indistinguishable from a circle) Le 11.08.22 à 03:55, Andrew Bernard a écrit : Well I suppose it is actually postscript. So I had better look at the full source? On 11/08/2022 11:40 am, Andrew Bernard wrote: Where is the code that actually draws a circle stencil? I am interested to see if it is done with Bezier curve techniques and to study that. I could not seem to find it in the scm area. Andrew -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Piping contents of SVG directly to stdout
It'll be interesting to be able to ouput SVG directly to get snippet which can be integrated into other documents. Actually, one can get SVG files using Inkscape : import the PDF file (using PopplerCairo orption), edit at will, select parts, crop, etc. and save as SVG. This is what I did for this experimental page <https://math.silvain-dupertuis.org/musique/Test-audition-fr%C3%A9quences.html>. I used one LilyPond file, produced one PDF page output, which I edited with Inkscpae to cut it into 3 SVG files to include in my HTML page. On the other side, you can put LilyPond code into OOoLilyPond extension for LibreOffice. It produces SVG code (and you can save the image as SVG), and these images can be used directly in the OpenDocument file to include them into some textual explanation... I would be interested in a web extension which would interpret directly Lilypond code into SVG files, it that is possible... /Silvain/ Le 18.07.22 à 20:33, David Wright a écrit : On Mon 18 Jul 2022 at 11:28:26 (-0500), DoubleFelix wrote: Felix, I’m curious what you mean by cropping the file. Sounds to me like you are trying to just write a small snippet of music, maybe a few measures, and not have the output flooded by whitespace all around the size of an A4 paper? This is also similar to what I was using lilypond for and there are ways to do this without any external apps. Actually this is exactly what I'm trying to do. My current setup uses a python library called svgpathtools to get the bounding box, then I do some basic manipulation of the width, height, and viewbox parameters to trim all of the excess whitespace out. Although I am very interested in can do this without any additional utilities. I thought this ought to be very simple. The attached are shamelessly plundered from https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2021-01/msg00075.html (There will be files generated, with names not including ".cropped.", that need to be thrown away.) Cheers, David. -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?
I am un Linux Ubuntu, and could no longer get MIDI playback to work. When starting Qsynth before Frescobaldi, it works. Simple and beautiful, just need to know! Thanks for the trick. Could we suggest to add a setting in Frescobaldi to automatically open Qsynth?? Le 21.06.22 à 21:33, Martin Tarenskeen a écrit : I am on Linux (Fedora) and start Qsynth before starting Frescobaldi. MIDI playback works perfectly. Op dinsdag 21 juni 2022 om 14:03:47 -0500 schreef Guy Stalnaker : Never needed to use Musecore once I found Frescobaldi. It is IMO one of the best computer applications I've ever used. Perfectly suited for it's purpose. On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 1:47 PM Vincent Gay wrote: Le 21/06/2022 à 18:17, Guy Stalnaker a écrit : Linux -- a bit more complicated. An easy way is to use MuseScore which comes with its own midi synthesizer -- Vincent Gay Envoyé depuis mon saxo-phone :) https://myrealbook.vintherine.org/ -http://photos.vintherine.org/ -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?
Le 21.06.22 à 17:29, Knute Snortum a écrit :
On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:11 AM Kira Garvie wrote:
Hello all,
I use Frescobaldi to make my scores, and is it possible to have a way to play
the scores so I can listen to them? It would make my proofreading so much
quicker!
Thank you!
Best,
Kira
It's as easy as this: just put \midi{} in your score block.
https://frescobaldi.org/uguide#help_ts_midi_generate
Then in Frescobaldi, select Tools -> Midi and check Midi Player. This
will play midi files from within Frescobaldi. If you're on a
Linux-type system, you may have more to set up.
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It used to work on my Ubuntu installation.
Presently, I do not manage to get it working from within Frescobaldi (the player appears
but does not produce any sound), although I have both VLC and Timidity able to play midi
files...
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Re: generate eps file from frecobaldi
Gimp and Inkscape are free and available in Windows, MacOs and Linux. Le 01.06.22 à 14:30, WaiMing Tsang a écrit : Hi Simon Bailey, Silvain Dupertuis, David M. Boothe &/Henning Hraban Ramm/ // /Thank you all for giving me suggestion. I am a window 10 user. I don’t know GIMP, /Inkscape/, / /I will search if these programs are available for window 10? Even if they are, learning curve will occurs. / /I knew to select eps output from Frecobaldi, but I was hopping I can use Frecobaldi to run commandline for lilypond./ // /Thank you all again,/ /Shalom,/ /ming/ Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: generate eps file from frecobaldi
Hello everyone, This does not answer the question directly... but suggests a solution without command line. It is indeed easy to create EPS and/or SVG files from the PDF using Inkscape. You can then edit the file, and choose any part you want to include. It works perfecty with PDF files produced by LilyPond. As an example, in an ongoing project to test frequencies <https://math.silvain-dupertuis.org/musique/Test-audition-fr%C3%A9quences.html>, I created a music sheet with Frescobaldi, saved it in PDF, and opend the PDF resulting file with Inkscape. Then I saved the parts I wanted as SVG (actually, optimized SVG) to include them as images in my web page (using this easy code : No need to use the command line to do that... I am sure you could do the same to create EPS image files (I did not test it, though). Silvain Le 31.05.22 à 17:53, WaiMing Tsang a écrit : Hi lilyponders: To produce ‘EPS’ images; lilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts myfile.ly How ro run the above from frecobaldi v3.13? I do not know how to use command line with lilypond. Thank you for the help, Shalom, Ming Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Mutopia?
Would it be that everything is now on this page: *https://www.ibiblio.org/mutopia/* <https://www.ibiblio.org/mutopia/> Sincerely Silvain Le 31.03.22 à 10:20, David Kastrup a écrit : Calvin Ransom writes: Does anyone know what's going on with the mutopia project servers? I haven't been able to access the website recently. I just get a server error message. https://www.mutopiaproject.org Calvin Ransom GitHub page is still there, last commit Oct 31, 2019. <https://github.com/MutopiaProject/MutopiaProject> The last activity of Chris Sawer on GitHub overall was in 2020. His Twitter account athttps://twitter.com/cjsawer however appears still active. Maybe try contacting him via GitHub? -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Changing fingers while holding key down
There a Unicode diacritic for this, the ligature tie It does not necesserily gives good result, depending on the font character U+0361 ͡ COMBINING DOUBLE INVERTED BREVE 1͡2 ok with DejaVu Sans (but tie sign a bit too close) Would this be a possibility? Apparently, this ligature tie does not exist in LaTeX Silvain Le 21.10.21 à 17:59, Knute Snortum a écrit : Hi everyone, In piano music, there's a technique for holding down a key with one finger, then switching to another. I know how this looks in music notation (see attached) but I don't know how to engrave it with LilyPond. I've searched the docs, the LSR, and the internet for the answer, but I don't know any technical term for this (is there one?) so the results were less than helpful. How is this done in LilyPond? I'm assuming one uses markup with \finger, but I can't find a way to make the "slur" on top of the numbers. (I've seen this notated with the slur under the numbers too.) -- Knute Snortum -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: voiceOne and oneVoice
Hi everyone, One problem with this suggestion that Lilypond does not support the simple use of digits in variable names. As far as I understand, it is because a digit following directly alphabetic characters is interpreted as a duration. I took me a long time to discover that there is a way out (and I suggest these feature should be more accessible in the documentation!) One can use numbered variables using a full-stop mark like these examples -- soprano.1, soprano.2 ... -- mel.354, mel.521 -- using the song number in a songbook May-be other separation marks would work too. One can also use quote marks for more sophisticated names, but it is more complicated and rather inelegant... Silvain Le 30.09.21 à 07:52, Valentin Petzel a écrit : Hi David, I'd say singleVoice would even be clearer. But I think maybe it would also be a good idea if we had a synax like \voice number. Currently Lilypond only supports four voices, and any more requires knowledge about the scheme interface, but \voice1 \voice2, ... could directly support an arbitrary amount of voices. Cheers, Valentin 30.09.2021 00:50:41 David Kastrup : Lukas-Fabian Moser writes: Hi Kira, Am 30.09.21 um 00:32 schrieb Kira Garvie: I realize this is a pretty basic question... but what is the difference between voiceOne and oneVoice? I am writing a multivoice keyboard-style hymn (as opposed to SATB chorale style) and the directions say to switch between oneVoice and voiceOne as needed for stem direction... "(d) Add voiceOne and oneVoice tags throughout to indicate stem direction. If there is no separately stemmed second part at the first note, oneVoice is assumed." Do I need to give an example? \voiceOne sets the layout for the current voice as if it is the first of several simultaneous voices. \oneVoice sets the layout for the current voice as if it is an only voice. It would probably be clearer if we had \firstVoice and \soleVoice instead of \voiceOne and \oneVoice, respectively. -- David Kastrup -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: eps file
This change of name seems to bo what Windows does to convert long file names into the 8+3 (very) old system limited to 8 lettres plus a three letters extension... Le 02.09.21 à 20:58, Valentin Petzel a écrit : Hello Ming. I’ve noticed „yming tsang” is turned into „ymingt~1” in the path. From what I’ve tried through experimentation this is something done by Frescobaldi! (Lilypond works quite fine on such files with out the mangled names.) This poses a problem if the filepath is used in formatting a string in guile, as ~... is used as placeholder. So at some point using epsfile require some sort of formatting, and then we get this error. So we need to look into Frescobaldi, how frescobaldi handles filenames. Cheers, Valentin -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Line breaking issue
Several things do not work when I open the piece with version 22
Notablly, the [ sign must be after the note, not before
f'32[( df df af)] and not [f'32( df df af)]
\up is refused for me
As for the \break, _it works if you add an invisible bar _
\bar ""
before it
\voiceOne {
f'32[( df df af)] \oneVoice f[( df df af)] f''[( df df af)] af'[( f df df)]
\oneVoice af[( f df df)] \voiceOne af''[( f df df)] \oneVoice |
\bar ""
\break
}
Le 12.08.21 à 19:35, Rachel Green a écrit :
For some reason, the \break command doesn’t seem to be working in this example. I need a
new line to start after the first measure so that all the notes of the following measure
can fit on the same line. Any ideas? I’ve tried adding breaks in the cadenza section to
see if they work elsewhere using \bar “” \break , but I can’t get the line to break
anywhere.
Best,
Rachel
\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"
#(set-global-staff-size 20)
\header {
title = \markup \fontsize #2 "Waltz"
}
Treble = \relative c''
{
\clef treble
\tempo "Andante"
\time 6/8
\key df \major
\voiceOne [f'32( df df af)] \oneVoice [f( df df af)] \voiceOne [f''( df df af)] [af'( f
df df)] \oneVoice [af( f df df)] \voiceOne [af''( f df df)] \oneVoice |
\break
\cadenzaOn
\up \ottava #1 f'64([ df df bf af af f f \ottava #0 df df bf af af f f df df
bf af af f f
df df bf af af f f df f f af af bf df df f f af af bf df df f f af af bf df df f f
af af)] |
\break \bar ""
\break
}
\score {
\new GrandStaff
<<
\new Staff = "treble" { \Treble }
>>
}
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Re: Is Lilypond’s G-Clef too straight?
Interesting! As for me, the Lylypond orientation of G clef looks *actually better balanced* that the rotated one. The rotated version seems to fall on the right instead of staying straigth... I am not sure to understand all the details of the code, but I tried to check the angles (using a PDF of the clefs and manipulating it with Inkscape) The angles I found do not correspond exactly to the values I see in the code : Second and third clefs are rotated left of angles of respectively 1.42° and 2.37° (probably correspond to values 1.5 and 2.5 in the code) measuring here : Le 12.08.21 à 12:05, lilyp...@petzel.at a écrit : Lilypond has a very characteristic G-Clef. I’ve only seen a handful of Bärenreiter scores with a similar clef. I personally find the Lilypond-Clef beautiful, but quite some people find it a bit too characteristic. I think part of this could come from the Clef being very straight. In most editions the G-Clef has a slant forward, so that the right edge is less leaning backward. So I’ve simply tried to rotate the clef a bit, and I’ve found that with just a slight rotation the clef looks much more like a „standard” G-clef. So what do you think about this? Could it be that the G-clef of Feta is just slightly too straight? Cheers, Valentin -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Printing two staves in the same place (overlaying)
I am not sure to understand. If your question is about having two piano staffs spaced as a continuum, I had found a way to do it which stopped functioning on the recent versions... and got an answer from this forum for a way (even 2 ways) to do it. An image will be easier... is this what you want? Le 07.08.21 à 09:48, Daniel Benjamin Miller a écrit : This is going to sound unusual, but is there any way in which one can truly overlay staffs? I mean engraving a staff directly on top of another, not taking any collisions into account, etc. (I know how to combine voices; that's not what I'm asking about.) Is there any way to do this via a hack (of spacing or the like)? Ideally, the second staff is manually set to align the exact same way as the first, so they really do always coincide. All the best, Daniel -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: simple question 1 where's the pdf for all the manuals for 2.22?
If you are on Windows, you can use *7-zip <https://www.7-zip.org/>* to open/pack/unpack tar archives. It even integrates into the file explorer in the context menu. Of course, in Linux, it's all integrated in the system... Le 04.08.21 à 13:11, jh a écrit : Thank you David etal, I've often been unable to find a tool to open/access tarballs? But I used a linux laptop and got in. I did find the quantity of material to be overwhelming and it took me a couple of days to find a way to just find the pdfs in that file but find them I did. Thank you for the help. jay -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: simple question 1 where's the pdf for all the manuals for 2.22? a better response I hope more polite
The files you mention do not seem to contain PDF documentation but only different snippets... But for such a huge documentation, maybe PDF is not the best choice. Using HTML with all the internal links to pages and snippets is probably better. It might be possible, if one likes to use documentation locally, to download the site with a utility like httrack <https://www.httrack.com/page/1/en/index.html> Silvain Le 03.08.21 à 02:56, David Wright a écrit : On Mon 02 Aug 2021 at 18:44:10 (-0600), jh wrote: Carl - that works fine for the notation but with 2.18 I have all the information in one huge pdf. This doesn't work at all with 2.22 the only pdf that seems available is the one you directed to me but going to the bottom of any other subject doesn't show a pdf and in fact there is a confusing line that says go back to the main page for docs. So the impolite question was 'really' but actually I'd rather actually have the pdf that I'm used to/need. This is not that. thanks for the help. If bandwidth isn't an issue, you can download "the lot" from https://lilypond.org/download/binaries/documentation/ The PDFs are a little unusually placed in the archive, under share/doc/lilypond/html/Documentation/ Multiple languages in multiple formats for "every" version. Cheers, David. -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Distance between staffs
Hello,
I made a chord version of the first Praeludium of the /Wohltemperierte Klavier/
(in which the chords were programmaticall reconstructed from the liste of
notes)_
_
As the chords extend on 2 and a half octaves,
I wanted to get them on a normal piano staff
and adjust the distance of staffs so that the would be like one staff with one space for
an A3 note.
Then the chords can be placed on the upper staff with notes automatically appearing at
they right place on the lower staff.
I found a nice way to do it, using Lilypond 20, by specifying
*staff-staff-spacing.padding* with a negative value
\new PianoStaff \with {
% midiInstrument = "tenor sax"
\override StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing = #'(
(basic-distance . 0)
(padding . 0)) % s0 for first exemple ; second example :
(padding . -3.09)
}
The result was this
with padding=0
with the negative adjustment (padding = -3.06)
Unfortunately, this adjustment no longer works in LilyPond 22
It looks like the property was broken, or no longer function this way?
Whatever the value, the distance is not affected.
You can see the complete LilyPond and PDF files in this NextCloud folder
<https://nextcloud.silvain-dupertuis.net/index.php/s/XQqdXWLzScpbFJB>
Thank you in advance if you can sort this problem out.
Sincerely
Silvain
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Re: MIDI input [was Re: Nested transposition]
Hello everyone,
As I do not have any midi keyboard,
I have programmed for myself a web-piano-keyboard-entry (HTML-CSS-JavaScript).
I use regularly for Lilypond - it combined different syntax, does Lylipond in
relative mode.
Actually, if was to be used for other systems also.
You can find the file there
<https://nextcloud.silvain-dupertuis.net/index.php/s/2DN89ybNzoLBedf>, download and open
in any browser.
The comments are in French, but I can easily make an English version if it is useful for
anyone.
You have to choose/confirm the type of syntax and the key and then click on notes and
duration on the keyboard and duration symbols...
Of course, you get one voice only, but it is easier that writing the names of
notes...
And again, I did not have any problem using \relative x y { ... } syntax...
Hope it can be useful.
Silvain
Le 14.03.21 à 16:53, Ralph Palmer a écrit :
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 9:14 PM Kieren MacMillan <mailto:kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca>> wrote:
Hi Carl!
>> My music entry is done 99% by MIDI input, so I type almost no commas or
apostrophes.
> Can you tell me how you do your MIDI input? I'd like to do that, but I
don't have
a good workflow for it.
1. I use Frescobaldi.
Wow. I missed this somehow. I can see why you use absolute values exclusively, Kieren.
I'm almost exclusively transcribing and transposing fiddle tunes. I do a lot of entry
from sheet music, and do a lot of proofreading, then transposing. Not terribly
complicated, but valuable to me. Relative entry works much better for me than absolute
entry. I can input the tune in treble clef, proofread it, and transpose to alto clef
with fewer than 10 keystrokes.
All the best,
Ralph
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Re: Nested transposition
I have nearly always used relative pitches.
I always use variables to build up the music in a logical way.
Transpose always worked right for me.
As for enharmonic transposition, it does work well
Here is an example :
m = \relative c' { \key des \major des4 es f as des2. r4}
\score {
{
\m
\transpose des cis \m
}
}
There might be a way to write a function which would transpose in way so that
when transposing music with different keys,
if a part happens to have more than 6 or 7 flats or sharps
it will apply enharmonic transposition...
Le 13.03.21 à 02:16, Valentin Petzel a écrit :
As far as I know transpose should only really be used with absolute pitches,
as it would be quite impossible to do it otherwise. Think of it like this:
Say we are in relative mode and have c' f. Then f will be above c. If you then
do c' \transpose f a f, then the transposed a would be above the c – so it
would need an octave indication. But the octave the music has to be put into
depends of the previous note. So a single transpose function cannot provide
this.
So, always use absolute pitch with transpose!
And by the way: Lilypond transposes you example correctly. Your main problem
is that usually there should not be a C# in C tonality. Usually it is easier
to go from C to Db, which is a minor 2nd instead of an augmented prime.
Cheers,
Valentin
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Re: explicitClefVisibility
Interesting ! One thing I see: It is *not a question of sharps or flats*. It is the question of sharps of flats beeing added or suppressed. With Staff.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #begin-of-line-visible The new Key signature is not printed at the end of the line, But a KeySignature with naturals is added when flats or sharps are suppressed in the next key. In your example, the number of flats increases, the the number of sharps decreases (so there are no key signatures at the end) but then, you suppress all the sharps and have flats in decreasing number. If you reverse the order of your sequences, you will see it. No idea how these naturals can be suppressed. Maybe another command... Le 12.03.21 à 16:11, Anthony Rushforth a écrit : Hello I'm trying to get rid of key modifiers at end of lines. I found this : \set Staff.explicitClefVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible which works well when flats are added, but not when sharps are added I don't find the answer in the documentation here is the ly an pdf result you can see the problem measure 7, where the sharps begin... Anthony -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Nested transposition
Here is a proposal
(without language = "english" => I use is and es for sharp and flat)
(using variables and transpose once from c to c sharp and once from c to b flat)
and using relative c' to ensure proper treatment of octaves.
I do not know if it helps, but it work for me with your example :
\version "2.20.0"
musicA = {
\relative c' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
c'4 d e f g a b c
}
}
musicB = \relative c' {
\clef bass
\key c \major
c, d e f g a b c
}
musicAB = {
\musicA
\transpose a ais { \musicB }
}
musicAC = {
\musicA
\transpose c des { \musicB }
}
\markup { "from c to c sharp => a to a sharp (3 sharps to 10 sharps!)" }
\score {
{
\musicA
\musicB
\break
\musicAB
}
}
\markup { "from c to d double-flat => a to b flat (3 sharps to 2 [=12-10]
flats"}
\score {
{
\break
\transpose c a, { \musicAB }
\musicAC
\break
\transpose c a, { \musicAC }
}
}
Le 12.03.21 à 11:28, Peter Toye a écrit :
Nested transposition I am trying to engrave a transposed song. It's written without key
signature but is very tonal. It starts in C and ends in C#. I want to transpose it down
a minor third. The part in C is fine, but the part in C# ends up as A## and there are
far too many double-sharps for it to be performable.
I found the 'minimal accidental' snippet but that looks as if it messes up the tonality
- a mixture of A sharp and B flat.
I tried the code below, which get the note names right but the octaves go completely
wrong. Is this a bug? It would be a useful feature if it could be corrected.
\version "2.22.0"
\language "english"
{
\transpose c a,
\relative {
c'4 d e f g a b c
\transpose as bf
{cs, ds es fs gs as bs cs}
}
}
Regards,
Peter
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Re: Extracting pitch of first note, then assign duration
Hello everyone,
You might find some hints in a piece I have done lately:
a score of J.S. Bach's
<https://nextcloud.silvain-dupertuis.net/index.php/s/TKNcaQdNbyBSpcE>Well-Tempered Clavier
Praeludium I
Where I wrote functions to create the score programmatically
(like extract groups of five notes, create patterns, manipulating durations,
no extraction of pitch in this example, but it is the same principle to
manipulate a note,
pitch being defined by its position in an octave and the octave)
You might have to treat your note as a sequence to manipulate its pitch,,,
You can find here
<https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/extending/music-properties.fr.html>
description of musical properties as scheme expressions
Sincerely
Silvain
Le 07.03.21 à 20:03, Matthew Fong a écrit :
Hello everyone,
I am in the process of writing a note replacement function that allows me to place a
custos anywhere I might need.
I am stuck on writing a function that extracts the pitch of the first note, given a list
of notes, and then forcing a duration of 1/4. Any pointers would be appreciated.
For example given the list of notes below, I would like a function to output c4.
{
\clef treble
c2 d e f
g4 a b c
}
Many thanks,
mattfong
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Re: Forcing articulations inside slurs
Yes, for sure, this is the proper way. Actually, I just looked into the documentation et found a way to move the position, and saw your message after I posted (too quickly) what I had found... Le 07.03.21 à 19:08, Valentin Petzel a écrit : Hello Silvain, In fact the aforementioned \override Script.avoid-slur = #'inside is the proper way to do this. Overriding positions should only be done if you really need it, as it is unflexible and thus won’t react to future changes. Thus the proper way to do this is to tell Lilypond what you actually want, which will change the essential scoring function of slurs. Cheers, Valentin -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Forcing articulations inside slurs
I found something in the documentation...
\relative c'' {
\clef treble
\key d \major
\time 4/4
*\override Slur.positions = #'(4 . 4)*
d4-_( d-_ d-_ d-_)
}
Need at least 4 for the tweak to worl
Le 07.03.21 à 14:51, Ralph Palmer a écrit :
Greetings -
Thanks for all your work and help!
I'm trying to force portato marks inside slurs. I've attached a MWE. I've tried
searching both the regular LilyPond documentation and the LSR, with no luck. Can someone
please point me in the right direction, either in the documentation, the LSR, or with code?
Be well,
Ralph
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Re: Workaround for (not-allowed) numbers in variable names?
Hello,
Browsing the documentation,
I did not find anything about variable names with allowing non-alphabetic
characters.
Did I miss something?
Here are extracts the 2.20 documentation
==
3.1.1 Introduction to the LilyPond file structure <3.1.1 Introduction to
the
LilyPond file structure>
Remember that you can use almost any name you like as long _/as it contains just
alphabetic characters/_ and is distinct from LilyPond command names. For more details, see
Saving typing with variables and functions
<http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/learning/saving-typing-with-variables-and-functions>.
The exact limitations on variable names are detailed in File structure
<http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/file-structure>.
3.4.4 Saving typing with variables and functions
<http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/learning/saving-typing-with-variables-and-functions.html>
does not give any indication
3.1.5 File structure
<http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/file-structure.html>
_The name of a variable should have alphabetic characters only; no numbers, underscores or
dashes_.
Additional note :
It's a bit difficult for me to navigate through the English documentation for me... in a
French language environment, as I can only get it by clicking at the bottom (why not at
the top...), and links bring me back to French (which is also nice...). But anyhow, for
this matter, the indications are the same.
Best regards
/Silvain/
Le 07.03.21 à 12:50, Peter Toye a écrit :
Re: Workaround for (not-allowed) numbers in variable names? Yes, it's documented in the
Notation Reference Manual section 3.1.5 File Structure. It doesn't seem the obvious
place to put the syntax of variable names.
Best regards,
Peter
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www.ptoye.com <http://www.ptoye.com>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 21:30:56 +0900
> From: 田村淳 mailto:j.tam...@me.com>>
> To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>>
> Subject: Re: Workaround for (not-allowed) numbers in variable names?
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> Wow! This is something I’ve been looking for for a long time. Is this documented
somewhere?
> Best regards,
> Jun
> https://imslp.org/wiki/User:Jun_T
<https://imslp.org/wiki/User:Jun_T> <https://imslp.org/wiki/User:Jun_T
<https://imslp.org/wiki/User:Jun_T>>
>> 2021/03/06 18:09、Richard Shann mailto:rich...@rshann.plus.com>>のメール:
>> On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 10:15 -0800, Mogens Lemvig Hansen wrote:
>>> I believe it was David K who made this magic work:
>>>
>>> \version "2.20.0"
>>>
>>> mus.1 = { c d e }
>>>
>>> \score {
>>> \new Staff { \mus.1 }
>>> }
>>>
>> This can be extended to cover the case where a variable has two numbers
>> associated with it:
>> 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
>> \version "2.20.0"
>>
>> Movement.1.Staff.1 = { c d e }
>> Movement.1.Staff.2 = { c' d' e' }
>> Movement.2.Staff.1 = { f g a }
>> Movement.2.Staff.2 = { f' g' a' }
>> \score {
>> <<
>> \new Staff { \Movement.1.Staff.1 }
>> \new Staff { \Movement.1.Staff.2 }
>> >>
>> }
>> \score {
>> <<
>> \new Staff { \Movement.2.Staff.1 }
>> \new Staff { \Movement.2.Staff.2 }
>> >>
>> }
>> 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
>> (cautionary note: I haven't examined the code or docs on this, but it
>> seems a dot before and after will do the trick mid-word and a single
>> dot at end of word)
>> A decade or so ago I resorted to converting all the numbers to Roman
>> numerals using a C routine that's knocking around on the interweb...
>> time I upgraded that.
>> Richard Shann
>>> Regards,
>>> Mogens
>>>
>>> From: Silvain Dupertuis
>>> Sent: March 5, 2021 10:12
>>> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Workaround for (not-allowed) numbers in variable names?
>>>
>>> I also wondered why numbers are not allowed in variables.
>>> As for me, I used things like A, B, C instead... but it is less
>>> practical.
>>
Re: Workaround for (not-allowed) numbers in variable names?
I still checked this use of variable with numbers.
*Wonderful to see that it works.*
One important note, though:
If you use a numbered variable, _you cannot use the same variable without an additional
number_.
*This should be added somewhere in the documentation!*
Here is a snippet.
\version "2.20.0"
\paper { indent = 0 }
global = {
\key g \major
}
% --- Definition of variables ---
gamme.1 = \relative c'' { r4^\markup { "major" } g4 a b c d e fis g1 }
gamme.2 = \relative c'' { r2^\markup { "minor" } g a bes c d ees fis g1 }
\markup "Numbered variables : gamme.1 and gamme.2"
\markup "Trying to define a variable named \"gamme\" will throw an error"
\score {
{
\global \gamme.1 \gamme.2
}
}
Wow! This is something I’ve been looking for for a long time. Is this
documented somewhere?
Best regards,
Jun
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2021/03/06 18:09、Richard Shann <mailto:rich...@rshann.plus.com>>のメール:
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 10:15 -0800, Mogens Lemvig Hansen wrote:
I believe it was David K who made this magic work:
\version "2.20.0"
mus.1 = { c d e }
\score {
\new Staff { \mus.1 }
}
This can be extended to cover the case where a variable has two numbers
associated with it:
8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
\version "2.20.0"
Movement.1.Staff.1 = { c d e }
Movement.1.Staff.2 = { c' d' e' }
Movement.2.Staff.1 = { f g a }
Movement.2.Staff.2 = { f' g' a' }
\score {
<<
\new Staff { \Movement.1.Staff.1 }
\new Staff { \Movement.1.Staff.2 }
>>
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff { \Movement.2.Staff.1 }
\new Staff { \Movement.2.Staff.2 }
>>
}
8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
(cautionary note: I haven't examined the code or docs on this, but it
seems a dot before and after will do the trick mid-word and a single
dot at end of word)
A decade or so ago I resorted to converting all the numbers to Roman
numerals using a C routine that's knocking around on the interweb...
time I upgraded that.
Richard Shann
Regards,
Mogens
From: Silvain Dupertuis
Sent: March 5, 2021 10:12
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Workaround for (not-allowed) numbers in variable names?
I also wondered why numbers are not allowed in variables.
As for me, I used things like A, B, C instead... but it is less
practical.
My guess is that it may be linked to the way numbers are used in
notes and chords to indicate duration, otherwise it would be real
nice to be able to use digits in variable names...!
Le 05.03.21 à 17:37, stefano franchi a écrit :
Here is a question for anyone who may have been using lilypond for
projects involving text and many, many, short and similar musical
snippets.
I am putting together a book that will contain many (very brief)
exercises, grouped thematically. I had thought a convenient and
flexible way to organize the material and keep future maintenance
under control would be to create top level variables names for the
main musical categories and sub-categories and then assign each score
snippet to progressively numbered variable. So I would have, CategA-1
= {"code for one exercise"} , CategB-2 = "code for another
exercise"}, and so on. Clean structure, easy to maintain and
rearrange, etc.
Then I discovered that lilypond does not allow numbers in variable
names :-(
I'd be willing to bet my use case is not particularly weird---there
must have been other people encountering the same problem.
How have you guys managed it?
Cheers,
S.
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Re: Workaround for (not-allowed) numbers in variable names?
Yes, it works with quotes in the variable definition as well as in the call :
/Exemple/
"gamme1" = \relative c' { g a b c d e f g }
\score { \"gamme1" }
Nice !!
Le 05.03.21 à 18:13, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit :
Thank you for asking (and answering) this question! I always wondered
about this. Now I have a solution which is better than spelling out
numbers.
Ken
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 8:44 AM stefano franchi
wrote:
Right, so I'm stupid. All it takes is to enclose the variable_with_number names
in quotes
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 10:37 AM stefano franchi
wrote:
Here is a question for anyone who may have been using lilypond for projects
involving text and many, many, short and similar musical snippets.
I am putting together a book that will contain many (very brief) exercises, grouped thematically.
I had thought a convenient and flexible way to organize the material and keep future maintenance
under control would be to create top level variables names for the main musical categories and
sub-categories and then assign each score snippet to progressively numbered variable. So I would
have, CategA-1 = {"code for one exercise"} , CategB-2 = "code for another
exercise"}, and so on. Clean structure, easy to maintain and rearrange, etc.
Then I discovered that lilypond does not allow numbers in variable names :-(
I'd be willing to bet my use case is not particularly weird---there must have
been other people encountering the same problem.
How have you guys managed it?
Cheers,
S.
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Re: Workaround for (not-allowed) numbers in variable names?
I also wondered why numbers are not allowed in variables.
As for me, I used things like A, B, C instead... but it is less practical.
My guess is that it may be linked to the way numbers are used in notes and chords to
indicate duration, otherwise it would be real nice to be able to use digits in variable
names...!
Le 05.03.21 à 17:37, stefano franchi a écrit :
Here is a question for anyone who may have been using lilypond for projects involving
text and many, many, short and similar musical snippets.
I am putting together a book that will contain many (very brief) exercises, grouped
thematically. I had thought a convenient and flexible way to organize the material and
keep future maintenance under control would be to create top level variables names for
the main musical categories and sub-categories and then assign each score snippet to
progressively numbered variable. So I would have, CategA-1 = {"code for one exercise"} ,
CategB-2 = "code for another exercise"}, and so on. Clean structure, easy to maintain
and rearrange, etc.
Then I discovered that lilypond does not allow numbers in variable names :-(
I'd be willing to bet my use case is not particularly weird---there must have been other
people encountering the same problem.
How have you guys managed it?
Cheers,
S.
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Lilypond functions
Hello everyone,
Functions in Lilypond can also be written in pure Sheme syntax like this
#(define abcd
(lambda (x y ... )
PROCEDURE USING x y ...))
and then called within Lilypond with the syntax
\abcd x y ...
or within a Sheme fucntion with the syntax
(abcd x y ...)
If anyone is interested, I made an exercise for myself to explore *the use of
functions*
and create a score of the *first Prelude of Book I of J.S. Bach's Well-Tempered
Clavier*
As this piece has 32 bars using the same pattern based on 5 notes, plus an
ending in 3 bars,
I used a simple list of notes (without any rythmic indications) as my main data
and designed functions to extract the groups of 5 notes, apply the patterns to create
voices and scores, including a chord version on the piece in addition to the standard score.
notes = {
c e g c e
c d a' d f
b d g d' f ... etc.
)
Files (Lilypond, PDF and midi) are in this online folder
(midi files need to be downloaded to listen to them)
<https://nextcloud.silvain-dupertuis.net/index.php/s/oQJfcgZP9PKY9ca>
Silvain Dupertuis
Merci
This is a perfect solution, and, a clear explanation about why my solution
failed.
Thank you very much
Ken Ledeen
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On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:43 AM Jean Abou Samra <mailto:j...@abou-samra.fr>> wrote:
Le 27/02/2021 à 02:16, Ken Ledeen a écrit :
> I am struggling to understand the restrictions on substitution functions.
>
> For example:
>
> 1) can a function include "\score { ...}" or can it only be invoked
> INSIDE a \score?
>
> 2) is it possible to include \header { ...} inside a substitution
> function? It fails when I try, but I don't understand why.
>
> I assume I am missing some basic concepts regarding their use.
>
> Thanks!
Hello,
Music functions must return music objects; \score blocks are not music
but general containers that enclose music as well as other objects such
as \header and \layout blocks.
However, replacing define-music-function with define-scheme-function,
you can define more versatile functions that are allowed to return any
kind of object for interpretation. For example:
\version "2.23.1"
failingFunction =
#(define-music-function () ()
#{
\score {
\header {
piece = "Piece A"
}
{ c' }
}
#})
% \failingFunction
succeedingFunction =
#(define-scheme-function () ()
#{
\score {
\header {
piece = "Piece B"
}
{ c' }
}
#})
\succeedingFunction
Hope that helps,
Jean
Re: 2.20 fails when filename has non-ASCII characters
And the files work if you change the filename to ASCII? Seems strange to me (that was my file). Le 25.02.21 à 17:00, Knute Snortum a écrit : I don't know if this is a known issue, or if anyone cares because it's version 2.20, but it will get a fatal error if the filename contains non-ASCII characters. It is not a problem in 2.22 or 2.23. I believe I saw a thread where this error popped up, but I can't find it. I've attached the most minimal of MWEs to this email. You have to save the file with the filename unchanged. If you try to compile it, the output is: Starting lilypond 2.20.0 [modèle-piano-chant0.ly]... Processing `/home//Downloads/modèle-piano-chant0.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects... Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... Layout output to `/tmp/lilypond-KEki2k'... Converting to `modèle-piano-chant0.pdf'... warning: `(gs -q -dSAFER -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595.28 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=841.89 -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dAutoRotatePages=/None -dPrinted=false -sOutputFile=modèle-piano-chant0.pdf -c.setpdfwrite -f/tmp/lilypond-KEki2k)' failed (256) fatal error: failed files: "/home//Downloads/modèle-piano-chant0.ly" Exited with return code 1. -- Knute Snortum -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Aligning lyric syllables to notes within beams and slurs?
Hello,
I did an exercise for myself (invented!)
Using lyrics, piano + voice.
Lyrics do align correctly.
In this one, I separate things using variables.
It make things easier to edit and expand.
Hope it can help.
(Sorry if it is partly in French, my language...)
Le 25.02.21 à 00:29, John Helly a écrit :
Aloha.
I'm working on transcribing the sheet music for Wooden Ships (Crosby, Stills, Kantner)
into LP as a learning exercise for myself. I'm self-taught in reading music so pls
forgive blunders (but also pls point them out).
I'm having trouble aligning the lyrics with the beaming structure of the published sheet
music. The only method that seems to allow me to get the desired alignment is to
connect the syllables with underscores and that seems like a big kluge.
Maybe I'm missing some option to allow lyrics to align with beamed and slurred notes
within a beam and/or slur?
My understanding is that the default behavior is to align syllables on the first note of
the beam rather than on the notes within a beam. Not sure if that's correct.
Mahalo.
J.
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\version "2.20.0"
global = {
\key g \major
}
% ===
% == Instruments
% ===
instrumentIntro = #"violin"
instrumentIntroName = #"Violon"
instrumentMelodie = #"cello"
instrumentFinale = #"flute"
% =
% musical sequences
% =
melody = \relative c'' {
\global
% \override Staff.KeySignature.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #f)
g4 b d b a2 a g1
}
text = \lyricmode {
Mon a -- mi Pier -- rot est là
}
chordsline = \chordmode {
\set chordChanges = ##t
g2 g/b c/d d:7 g1
}
upper = \relative c'' {
\global
<<
\new Voice { \voiceOne b4 g g fis8 g c2 a b1 }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo g2 d c4 e d c d1 }
>>
}
lower = \relative c {
\clef bass
\global
<<
\new Voice { \voiceOne g'2 g e 4 g g4 fis g1 }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo g,2 b d d g,1 }
>>
}
% === Final part, piano alone
upperEnd = \relative c'' {
\global
<<
\new Voice { \voiceOne c2^"Flute" b4 a g1 }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo g2 d4 c b1 }
>>
}
lowerEnd = \relative c {
\global
\clef bass
% \global
<<
\new Voice { \voiceOne g'2 g4 fis d1 }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo c2 d g,1 }
>>
}
% =
% Staves and instruments
% =
musicMain = {
<<
\new Voice = "melody" {
\set Staff.midiInstrument = \instrumentMelodie
\autoBeamOff \melody
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melody \text
\new ChordNames {
\chordsline
% \chordmode {g2 g/b c/d d:7 g1 }
}
\new PianoStaff
<<
\new Staff = "upper" \upper
\new Staff = "lower" \lower
>>
>>
}
% ===
% === Scores - PDF and Midi outputs
% ===
\score {
\musicMain
\midi {
\tempo 4 = 92
}
}
Re: Custom music notation?
To all those who say chromatic scale would be simpler... I am not sure! In response to Pashkuli Keyboard... Scales are *not* /just formulas/ and “natural major” scale is not arbitrary. Moreover, even if it is a characteristic of western music, this scale is not simply cultural. Harmony rely on a strong physical base, which let us understand why musical intervals are mainly based on octaves, fifths and thirds – as well as the natural major scale. In *melody*, notes are arranged in a sequence, and sound close to one another when the interval is small. But so-called natural intervals are the one which are easy to sing correctly. In *harmony*, by contrast, notes sound nearly identical when distant of one octave. And the proximity of chords is based on the cycle of fifths (an approximate cycle, thanks to the temperament). For example, chords of C and G are close to one another when C and C♯ are nearly as far away as possible (C and F♯ are the farthest). A great part of the beauty of music comes from the interleaving of these two kinds of proximity (melodic and harmonic). Transposition and changes of key add sharps and flat according to the fifths cycle. This is complex, but it reflects the real structure of music. The 12th chromatic scale, on the other hand, is just a good approximation of the natural intervals based on fifth and their transposition. It allows us to play music on keyboards instruments (with black and white keys). One can of course write music using just this 12th notes chromatic scale, as if there were no white and black keys. This seems simpler only at first sight. Because, then the meaning in terms of this interleaving of harmony and melody is lost… A last point: 5 notes scales are widely used in Asia. The 5 notes scale correspond very well to the the 5 notes you can play on the black keys of a piano. And men and women singing together sing at a distance of one octave nearly everywhere in the world. These are just signs which point to the fact that this complex musical system is not arbitrary, and is more than a simple western cultural convention. Le 05.02.21 à 18:23, Pashkuli Keyboard a écrit : Scales are just formula. The problem is the unnecessary (though inevitable) 'reference' for all scales to a specific special case of one scale - the so called "natural" major. That is a problem, which is even worse when talking about specific notes. Especially problematic when double flats or sharps are introduced... because of the aforementioned 'reference'. I never got grasp of this as to me all music (at least 90% of the music I listen) is just those 12 notes. -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <http://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org>
Re: Solution "Midi Through Port-0"?
Curious.
I am on Ubuntu (18.04 on my main machine) and use Frescobaldi
Midi output works fine for me.
I did not play with settings so far...
For midi ports, I have
Output reader = TiMidity port 0
Entry port = Midi Through Port-0
The only thing : If I just press the button
(whatever it is called in English, in French, it says "graver")
it does not save ouput. I have to save the Lilypond file also to get PDF and
midi output.
What is happning in your case?
No output or what?
Normally, ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) should be installed
and taking care of the sound on the system.
You can check on the command line (copy from my systm).
alsa
=> Usage: /sbin/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume}
or, to see where the software is installed
which alsa
=> /sbin/alsa
But I no not think Lilypond needs it to build a midi file.
You might need it to open you midi file and listen to the sound...
Le 27.01.21 à 18:27, andy c a écrit :
Hello there,
I am a new Lilypond/Frescobaldi (and also Linux (Ubuntu20)) user, found out MIDI output
is not working on Frescobaldi.
In preferences-MIDI settings the only player output options is "Midi Through
Port-0"
in Denemo the MIDI output works just fine, couldn't find anything on Firefox and
Lilypond.org search bar.
How can I get MIDI output to work?
thanks,
Andy
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