Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-22 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Late to the party, but you asked: On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:47 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: > > https://forums.makemusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=12=2065= > 70206c7b17c9cd8107c4ad1250073f0c > But not discussing how it _should_ be done. > I don't have Gould at hand, does she

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-21 Thread ptoye
Harm, that's great. How about adding it to the snippets repository? -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-20 Thread Ben
On 2/20/2018 7:24 AM, Noeck wrote: Hi Ben, If you want to change the beam gap, here are the overrides: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-engraving-tremolos-with-floating-beams Best, Joram Ah, yes. Sorry I wasn't as clear as I meant to be - the beam gap

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-20 Thread Noeck
Hi Ben, > What's the easiest way in LilyPond to create those beamed tremolos? Just read the mail with code before in this thread. You can create them via the \repeat tremolo command: { \repeat tremolo 8 { c'32 e' } \repeat tremolo 4 { c'32 e' } } If you want to change the beam gap, here

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-20 Thread Ben
On 2/19/2018 6:04 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: Hi Harm, thanks for the help. On 19.02.2018 23:47, Thomas Morley wrote: Also, following links may be of interest. They provide excerpts of an old and new edition of Janacek, Glagolitic Mass.

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-20 Thread Peter Toye
Simon, I am less worried than yourselves about the "coldness" of the new engraving. As a performer, what I want is clarity and the new version wins hands down. However, I hate the fermata tremolo which seems to me to combine the worst features of all possible solutions. Presumably whatever

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Simon, > As so often, I find this comparison almost heart-rending. + 1,000,000 Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Harm, > On Feb 19, 2018, at 5:47 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: > you need to go for the grob's left/right-bounds in order to get their > coordinates and move the fermata accordingly. > Leads to: Nice! > Or use the method with tuplets, at least less invasive. Yes… but

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Harm, thanks for the help. On 19.02.2018 23:47, Thomas Morley wrote: Also, following links may be of interest. They provide excerpts of an old and new edition of Janacek, Glagolitic Mass. http://notovodstvo.ru/forum/fermata/tremolo_fermata_old.gif

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-02-19 21:08 GMT+01:00 Simon Albrecht : > I think the best way to do it would be essentially an override to the beam, > adding the fermata to its stencils. However I have to call on the expect > Schemers around here (Harm, David N.?) for finishing it, since I haven’t >

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Simon, > I think the best way to do it would be essentially an override to the beam, > adding the fermata to its stencils. However I have to call on the expect > Schemers around here (Harm, David N.?) for finishing it, since I haven’t been > able to align the fermata to the horizontal

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Noeck
Dear Peter, how about this: { \once\override TupletNumber.text = \markup \fermata \tuplet 1/1 \repeat tremolo 16 { c'32 c''} } It is misusing a tuplet for the fermata and just overrides the text (which would print "1" otherwise). If one does not like the idea of such a fake tuplet in this

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Simon Albrecht
tremolo 16 { c'32 c''} } Best, Simon On 19.02.2018 12:25, Peter Toye wrote: Fermatas with tremolos I want to engrave a fermata over a tremolo. What's the correct way of displaying this? I've looked on various fora and the consensus seems to be that the fermata sign should be midway between the no

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Peter Toye
Andrew, Thanks - that works ( on the 4th version). But it's a bit of a kludge. I'm surprised that LP doesn't do it automatically, which would be a far better idea as it seems to be the standard. No idea what other engraving programs do. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com

Re: Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Peter, Can't you just use this to move it? \once \override TextScript.X-offset = #0.8 % for example Or is it that what you are asking is to have the tremolo sign and the fermata automatically aligned? Not clear to me. Andrew On 19 February 2018 at 22:25, Peter Toye

Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Peter Toye
I want to engrave a fermata over a tremolo. What's the correct way of displaying this? I've looked on various fora and the consensus seems to be that the fermata sign should be midway between the notes. The first two parts of the snippet below put it at the beginning or the end. The third one

Fermatas with tremolos

2018-02-19 Thread Peter Toye
I want to engrave a fermata over a tremolo. What's the correct way of displaying this? I've looked on various fora and the consensus seems to be that the fermata sign should be midway between the notes. The first two parts of the snippet below put it at the beginning or the end. The third one