Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread David Kastrup
John Gourlay writes: > I was thinking that text produced by LilyPond would likely be about > music, with references, for example, to chords with superscripts in > their names. It would appear odd if the chord names in text appeared > differently than in the music

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread David Kastrup
John Gourlay writes: > Joram, > > As you say, LaTeX is for producing beautiful mathematics and LilyPond > is for producing beautiful music. It’s possible that the conventions > in the two different kinds of typography differ in their placement of > sub and superscripts,

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 07.02.2016 11:39, David Kastrup wrote: >(Preferably with LilyPonds own accidentals and perhaps the BC-font.) Well, what you put in there is up to you. You can also experiment along the lines of %%% \version "2.19.36" #(define-markup-command (number-stack layout props args)

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Noeck
Thanks Simon, I'll do that. Best, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 07.02.2016 14:50, Phil Holmes wrote: I wasn't aware that git-cl "always fails". Could you describe the problem I thought it was a known issue? It’s the case for which you recently added more helpful messages. Here’s the command line in- and output: $ git cl upload origin/master

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Robert Blackstone
Dear All, Just as I was trying to formulate a request for some additional feature related to Super and Sub I saw Joram's mail, the first of this thread, with which I very much agree. So maybe I can use this thread to ask for the following: In comments accompanying some scores I feel a need

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread David Kastrup
Robert Blackstone writes: > Dear David, > > Thank you very much. Perfect. This is what I had hoped for. > > I needed some time to find out how to insert "real" LilyPond > accidentals instead of your "♯" but I think I can manage that now. > (Just curious: What is ♯?

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.02.2016 um 15:07 schrieb Simon Albrecht: > On 07.02.2016 14:50, Phil Holmes wrote: >> I wasn't aware that git-cl "always fails". Could you describe the >> problem > > I thought it was a known issue? It’s the case for which you recently > added more helpful messages. Here’s the command line

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread David Kastrup
Robert Blackstone <blackstone.rob...@gmail.com> writes: > Dear All, > > Just as I was trying to formulate a request for some additional feature > related to > Super and Sub I saw Joram's mail, the first of this thread, with which I very > much agree. > > So mayb

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Noeck
Hi, from the replies, I conclude: - The changes to super and sub script positions are considered an improvement - There might be yet unknown cases where something more sophisticated is needed for a perfect look - Superscripts in chords are very inconsistent, for instance \chords

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 07.02.2016 14:27, Noeck wrote: Could someone guide me a bit, how to upload the patch? Should the issue 3619 [1] be continued or a new one created? It’ll be better to create a new one. The procedure to submit patches is explained in the CG, see especially

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Noeck
Dear Robert, in a text environment, Davids solution is probably better. But if you want to use the full bass figure syntax, you can also insert scores into markup like this: \paper { indent = 0 } \layout { \override FiguredBass.BassFigure.font-size = -1 } \markup \line { would be a

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Phil Holmes
marb...@gmx.de>; <lilypond-user@gnu.org> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Super and sub On 07.02.2016 14:27, Noeck wrote: Could someone guide me a bit, how to upload the patch? Should the issue 3619 [1] be continued or a new one created? It’ll be better to c

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Noeck
Dear Robert, are you aware of bass figures in LilyPond? http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/figured-bass I think that's the way to go here instead of using markup. Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Robert Blackstone
stone On 7 Feb 2016, at 11:39 , David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote: > Robert Blackstone <blackstone.rob...@gmail.com> writes: > >> Dear All, >> >> Just as I was trying to formulate a request for some additional feature >> related to >> Super and

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > Of course, where the current situation is "this looks awful", getting > one's start values from LaTeX for comparison is a possible first step. There seems to be a reasonably good starting point at . Not sure if we should include

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Thomas Morley
> > To: "Noeck" <noeck.marb...@gmx.de>; <lilypond-user@gnu.org> > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: Super and sub > > > > On 07.02.2016 14:27, Noeck wrote: >> >> Could someone guide me a bit, how to upload the patch? &g

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Phil Holmes
ht" <simon.albre...@mail.de> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 2:15 PM Subject: Re: Super and sub 2016-02-07 14:50 GMT+01:00 Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net>: I wasn't aware that git-cl "always fails". Could you describe the problem and provide a traceback? I every

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-07 Thread Paul Morris
> On Feb 7, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Phil Holmes wrote: > > I wasn't aware that git-cl "always fails". Could you describe the problem > and provide a traceback? > > Is everyone having the same problem? It has been working fine for me. (I think I remember once where it didn’t

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-06 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi all, Please be so kind to attached objective examples including publishers' name. What you "imagine", what's "possible" or "seems like" won't help much here... Cheers, Pierre 2016-02-06 22:24 GMT+01:00 John Gourlay : > Joram, > > As you say, LaTeX is for producing

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 6. Februar 2016 22:24:41 MEZ, schrieb John Gourlay : >Joram, > >As you say, LaTeX is for producing beautiful mathematics and LilyPond >is for producing beautiful music. It’s possible that the conventions in >the two different kinds of typography differ in their

Super and sub

2016-02-06 Thread Noeck
Dear all, in a recent question on this list [1] about \super in markup text, all three replies suggested to tweak the vertical position of superscripts by hand because the default is obviously too high. I compared the Lilypond result of \super and \sub to the equivalents in LaTeX (because who

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Kieren MacMillan wrote Saturday, February 06, 2016 8:03 PM >> - raise the superscript by 0.8 instead of 1.0 >> - lower the subscript by -0.4 instead of -0.75 > > In my opinion, these are both improvements on the current default. I agree. Trevor ___

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I compared the Lilypond result of \super and \sub to the >> equivalents in LaTeX (because who would doubt that LaTeX is wrong >> in such a question) Please have a look at other, non-CM fonts also, since CM is sometimes a bit peculiar :-) >> - raise the superscri

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-06 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Joram, > I compared the Lilypond result of \super and \sub to the equivalents in > LaTeX (because who would doubt that LaTeX is wrong in such a question) =) > Of course LilyPond's emphasis is on beautiful music notation, > but I think also text parts of scores should look g

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-06 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
+1 See the wish I had in 2013: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/WISH-about-super-and-sub-td152384.html Pierre 2016-02-06 21:34 GMT+01:00 Trevor Daniels <t.dani...@treda.co.uk>: > > Kieren MacMillan wrote Saturday, February 06, 2016 8:03 PM > > >> - raise the su

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-06 Thread John Gourlay
Joram, As you say, LaTeX is for producing beautiful mathematics and LilyPond is for producing beautiful music. It’s possible that the conventions in the two different kinds of typography differ in their placement of sub and superscripts, and so LaTeX and LilyPond should differ in their

Re: Super and sub

2016-02-06 Thread John Gourlay
I was thinking that text produced by LilyPond would likely be about music, with references, for example, to chords with superscripts in their names. It would appear odd if the chord names in text appeared differently than in the music itself. John

Re: [WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-21 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
janek.lilyp...@gmail.com Hi Pierre, 2013/10/16 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: 2013/10/16 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: There is something I found disturbing for years : I think \super and \sub are not properly settled. [] Here's a patch that fixes

Re: [WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I don't understand Werner's remark : \sub is at the right height even for chords. Not \sub, but \sup. I've also compared with Sibelius, Finale, and some books I have here; looks fairely good to me. Hmm. Look at the attached two images, extracted from

Re: [WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/10/21 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: Dear Janek, I'm 100% ok with your code. I don't understand Werner's remark : \sub is at the right height even for chords. I've also compared with Sibelius, Finale, and some books I have here; looks fairely good to me.

Re: [WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-21 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2013/10/21 Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org Not \sub, but \sup. Sorry Werner it's a typo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: [WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-21 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2013/10/21 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com There are two things you can do: - provide scanned examples of chords showing where super- and subscripts are placed. (note that Finale/Sibelius places them at this height by default will not be convincing for us, as we don't regard these

Re: [WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Pierre, 2013/10/16 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: 2013/10/16 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: There is something I found disturbing for years : I think \super and \sub are not properly settled. [] Here's a patch that fixes it: http://code.google.com

[WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-16 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Dear Developers, Dear List, There is something I found disturbing for years : I think \super and \sub are not properly settled. Here's a little code to show what I'm talking about : % \version 2.17.28 #(set-global-staff-size 30) \markup\column { \line\typewriter

Re: [WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-16 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Pierre, such requests should be directed to bug-lilyp...@gnu.org (have done it this time). Urs Am 16.10.2013 16:28, schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider: Dear Developers, Dear List, There is something I found disturbing for years : I think \super and \sub are not properly settled. Here's

Re: [WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-16 Thread Helge Kruse
think \super and \sub are not properly settled. Here's a little code to show what I'm talking about : % \version 2.17.28 #(set-global-staff-size 30) \markup\column { \line\typewriter { % Here's what \super does : } \concat { E = mc\super 2 } \vspace#.5 \line

Re: [WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-16 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/10/16 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: There is something I found disturbing for years : I think \super and \sub are not properly settled. [] Here's a patch that fixes it: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3619 http://codereview.appspot.com

Re: [WISH] about \super and \sub

2013-10-16 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Thank you all, sorry for the wrong list. 2013/10/16 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com Hi, 2013/10/16 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: There is something I found disturbing for years : I think \super and \sub are not properly settled. [] Here's a patch