2014/1/2 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
Janek, you wrote Monday, December 09, 2013 11:31 PM
I saw Trevor's snippet and it's really nice! Now i'm waiting for the
pull request :)
Sorry to be late in replying, but you may have seen this has now
been pushed to master, so it will be
Janek, you wrote Monday, December 09, 2013 11:31 PM
2013/12/6 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
Janek Warchoł wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:29 PM
2013/12/6 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
A simpler approach would be to embed templates into LP so that they
could just be
2013/12/6 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
Janek Warchoł wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:29 PM
2013/12/6 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
A simpler approach would be to embed templates into LP so that they
could just be invoked. The template would provide the context
2013/12/6 Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl:
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
A real example using a template which
provides an SATB choir on two staves with lyrics between them and
a piano staff with accompaniment is attached.
I've been using a similar approach for SLHML
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org schrieb:
We need to figure out how we can provide style sheets, similar to how
LaTeX makes it possible to define document classes (layout
definitions
and tools) and packages (raw functionality packaged into coherent
interfaces).
Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes:
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
A real example using a template which
provides an SATB choir on two staves with lyrics between them and
a piano staff with accompaniment is attached.
I've been using a similar approach for SLHML choir,
Hi,
2013/12/2 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
At any rate, we need to pitch LilyPond to _ourselves_ and listen what
annoys us. Particularly when explaining LilyPond to others and/or
pitching it to them.
I can do this at any moment. But how to make sure that it won't end
up as another long rant
Am 05.12.2013 18:09, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
I'm quite surprised that noone (did i overlook someone?) expressed
interest in getting these comparisons and translating them, despite my
offer.
There were some people mentioning that, but actually it looks like you
had Polish texts to offer, and I
Am 05.12.2013 18:28, schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 05.12.2013 18:09, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
I'm quite surprised that noone (did i overlook someone?) expressed
interest in getting these comparisons and translating them, despite my
offer.
There were some people mentioning that, but actually it looks
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/12/2 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
At any rate, we need to pitch LilyPond to _ourselves_ and listen what
annoys us. Particularly when explaining LilyPond to others and/or
pitching it to them.
I can do this at any moment. But how to make
2013/12/5 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
Am 05.12.2013 18:09, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
I'm quite surprised that noone (did i overlook someone?) expressed
interest in getting these comparisons and translating them, despite my
offer.
There were some people mentioning that, but actually it
Just take a look at the simplicity this could give us: this
https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/blob/master/templates/predefined-instruments/simple-example.ly
can produce the attached output.
... and I see a buglet in this image: The vertical line in the
Soprano's ambitus must not
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org schrieb:
We need to figure out how we can provide style sheets, similar to how
LaTeX makes it possible to define document classes (layout
definitions
and tools) and packages (raw functionality packaged into coherent
interfaces).
Moving in the direction where this
2013/12/5 Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org:
Just take a look at the simplicity this could give us: this
https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/blob/master/templates/predefined-instruments/simple-example.ly
can produce the attached output.
... and I see a buglet in this image: The vertical
We need to figure out how we can provide style sheets, similar to
how LaTeX makes it possible to define document classes (layout
definitions and tools) and packages (raw functionality packaged
into coherent interfaces).
*This* is a very worthy project IMHO! It basically means a lot of
... and I see a buglet in this image: The vertical line in the
Soprano's ambitus must not degenerate to a dot. Either the line
gets omitted completely, or it gets stretched a bit.
However, http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3525 and
thus attachment :-)
Hehe, thanks.
2013/12/5 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/12/2 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
At any rate, we need to pitch LilyPond to _ourselves_ and listen what
annoys us. Particularly when explaining LilyPond to others and/or
pitching it to them.
I can do
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 5:48 PM
We need to figure out how we can provide style sheets, similar to how
LaTeX makes it possible to define document classes (layout definitions
and tools) and packages (raw functionality packaged into coherent
interfaces).
A simpler
Janek Warchoł wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:29 PM
2013/12/6 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
A simpler approach would be to embed templates into LP so that they
could just be invoked. The template would provide the context structure
of a particular type of score, and also
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
A real example using a template which
provides an SATB choir on two staves with lyrics between them and
a piano staff with accompaniment is attached.
I've been using a similar approach for SLHML choir, with a skeleton
template (attached). I haven't
On 03/12/13 22:47, David Kastrup wrote:
You are aware that the Sibelius development team has been laid off due
to financial problems of their parent company in spite of Sibelius
having a paying market and turning a profit?
Yes, fully. But there is still _a_ Sibelius development team, there is
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
Yes, the processes of contribution-based free software break in
different ways to the processes of commercial proprietary software --
there are different risks and different benefits. But the fact is,
someone using Sibelius now
On 04/12/13 10:33, David Kastrup wrote:
Uh, the original developers of Sibelius made Avid an offer for buying
Sibelius back. The offer was turned down.
Happy to have this discussion if you want it, but I think it's getting away from
the point I wanted to make.
It's simply that I don't see
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
On 04/12/13 10:33, David Kastrup wrote:
Uh, the original developers of Sibelius made Avid an offer for buying
Sibelius back. The offer was turned down.
Happy to have this discussion if you want it, but I think it's getting
away
Am 04.12.2013 11:18, schrieb David Kastrup:
We're not there yet. LilyPond is more a humongous blob of an
application rather than a music typesetting_platform_, like Emacs is an
easily extended editing platform.
Of course this would be a beautiful idea. And it's of course very good
to work
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:
Am 04.12.2013 11:18, schrieb David Kastrup:
We're not there yet. LilyPond is more a humongous blob of an
application rather than a music typesetting_platform_, like Emacs is an
easily extended editing platform.
Of course this would be a beautiful
On 04/12/13 11:18, David Kastrup wrote:
It's not really a discussion: I am just reiterating points already made
a lot of times with regard to Free Software. Corporate parents can
easily become a liability rather than an asset, and when that happens,
you are powerless as a user.
Yes, I'm very
to me that made me give it a second chance. That seemed to be
the point of a thread about promoting LilyPond.
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made about what aspect of
LilyPond appealed to me that made me give it a second chance. That seemed
to be the point of a thread about promoting LilyPond.
Regarding what it takes to make a score look right, I have some rather
direct comparison between LP and Finale. When it comes to something
On 02/12/13 16:00, David Kastrup wrote:
How about companies which cannot risk getting locked in to software that
may stop being maintained in future?
I'm not sure that's a selling point, either. As long as there's a paying
market, commercial software tends to keep getting maintained. By
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
On 02/12/13 16:00, David Kastrup wrote:
How about companies which cannot risk getting locked in to software that
may stop being maintained in future?
I'm not sure that's a selling point, either. As long as there's a
paying
Hi all,
a very important discussion! A couple thoughts:
2013/12/1 Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com:
LP came out in the midst of other packages that already existed. As a
result, it is fighting for marketshare in a relatively mature market.
Granted, it is possible to overcome this
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/12/1 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca:
Urs wrote:
Most people I tried to persuade simply said this isn't my cup of tea,
I'm not a programmer”.
THAT is the main problem right there — one we are likely never to
overcome, as
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes:
LilyPond's strengths are what it is able to do automatically:
transpositions, partial partitures, catering to different page formats,
fast adaption to different orchestras... Your score is _malleable_.
LilyPond excels at *vertical* malleability, but it's
I've laid low because I'm still new enough that I don't have much to contribute
unless it is a question, but here I might actually have something to say:
On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:00, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Again, I don't think the no money aspect should be a primary selling
point.
I
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Garrett McGilvray wrote:
The reason that I came back for a second try was not that it was free,
since I had already paid for the real thing. I don't remember what
made me think of it, but I remembered the essay on LilyPond's goal of
superior engraving, and I decided to
this message in context:
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