Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> An interface may include some property but that does not make a grob do >> anything with that property. Those grobs which you'd desire to heed >> that property would all have to be programmatically changed to look at >> that property, by employing some

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> I have no idea what functions should be responsible for doing anything >> with properties like that. > > Which function(s) position/centre MMRs? And which function(s) position > NoteColumns/NoteHeads? Wouldn’t those two functions reference >

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Reggie
Hi Reggie, > I would also want to know how to do this basic layout setting which all > other notation Programs have done since the dawning of time. That claim seems hyperbolic, and almost certainly not true. (If I recall correctly, NoteWriter v1 didn’t have any such ability.) In any case, saying

Re: word-wrapping in a markup column

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Is there a way to allow lines in such a column to break if needed but > maintain even spacing between all lines? Any help is much > appreciated, as this problem has plagued me for a long time. Maybe? \markup \override #'(line-width . 10) \column { \wordwrap-lines { a a a a a a a a

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Reggie
Andrew Bernard wrote > I want to remove some staves containing only rests and yet retain others > in > my quartet score. [When there is a long solo I want the other parts > suppressed, but when just one instrument is at rest I want the empty staff > to show in the set of four]. > > The

Re: creating a function to automate slides (falls) in rock guitar music

2019-02-05 Thread John Doe
> > This works for me, Randy: > > \override Glissando #'style = #'zigzag > \once \override Glissando #'(bound-details left Y) = #+3 > | r4 r8 ees'~ ees4 \glissando ges,8 ess > Thanks Michael, overriding the bound details is a good idea, but on chords, all the gliss lines converge to

Re: word-wrapping in a markup column

2019-02-05 Thread Abraham Lee
Hi, David! On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 11:14 AM David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi all, > > This snippet leaves no space between the word-wrapped items: > > \version "2.19.82" > > \markup \override #'(line-width . 10) \column { > \wordwrap { a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a } > \wordwrap { b b b

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Reggie, > I would also want to know how to do this basic layout setting which all > other notation Programs have done since the dawning of time. That claim seems hyperbolic, and almost certainly not true. (If I recall correctly, NoteWriter v1 didn’t have any such ability.) In any case,

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Pretty much. Okay. Thanks for the detailed and helpful answer. Consider this "brainstorming a possible feature request" thread closed from my perspective. Best, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email:

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.02.19 um 17:42 schrieb Urs Liska: Hi Mark, Am 05.02.19 um 17:01 schrieb Urs Liska: Hi Mark, Am 05.02.19 um 16:56 schrieb Mark Knoop: At 15:23 on 05 Feb 2019, Urs Liska wrote: I succeeded overriding a MultiMeasureRest's stencil with a custom markup to display arbitrary markups

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > They are completely different functions and rely on different > information getting collected and processed by the respective engravers. > So you cannot just merge them into one function that then does different > things dependent on some centre-in-measure flag. As is so often the

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> They are completely different functions and rely on different >> information getting collected and processed by the respective engravers. >> So you cannot just merge them into one function that then does different >> things dependent on some

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > What are "measure-centering properties"? Whichever ones we think make sense, I suppose. As I’ve already said, I could see there being a boolean #'centre-in-measure; possibly it would be useful to have a numerical #'offset (defaulting to 0); in a complete implementation, I suppose

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > I have no idea what functions should be responsible for doing anything > with properties like that. Which function(s) position/centre MMRs? And which function(s) position NoteColumns/NoteHeads? Wouldn’t those two functions reference #'centre-in-measure, if it existed? Thanks,

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> What are "measure-centering properties"? > > Whichever ones we think make sense, I suppose. > > As I’ve already said, I could see there being a boolean > #'centre-in-measure; possibly it would be useful to have a numerical > #'offset (defaulting to 0);

Re: Slur connecting fingering numbers

2019-02-05 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Di., 5. Feb. 2019 um 10:38 Uhr schrieb Thomas Morley : > Though, my procedure printing the bows relies on a stencil being > present. Thus nothing happens. > This dependance bugs me anyway, so I'll have another look in the evening. I've eliminate default-stencil dependancy. Please test.

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Reggie
David Kastrup wrote > Please work on your quoting. It's rather hard to figure out who said > what. > > Reggie > reegistoop@ > writes: >> >>> Lilypond is so bizarre sometimes with things. >> >> A totally useless and inflammatory comment. >> >> * Respect, but there are many things in Lilypond

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Reggie
Kieren MacMillan wrote > Reggie, > >>> You don’t have to; I select staves and have them appear >>> and disappear as desired all the time. >> >> * Then why can't Andrew? Why did he post in the first place? >> Why is a hack the only answer solution? > > In an application where you type r8 when

Re: Slur connecting fingering numbers

2019-02-05 Thread Rachel Knight
Hooray, it works and looks amazing! Rachel > On Feb 5, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: > > Am Di., 5. Feb. 2019 um 10:38 Uhr schrieb Thomas Morley > : > >> Though, my procedure printing the bows relies on a stencil being >> present. Thus nothing happens. >> This dependance bugs me

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Reggie, >> You don’t have to; I select staves and have them appear >> and disappear as desired all the time. > > * Then why can't Andrew? Why did he post in the first place? > Why is a hack the only answer solution? In an application where you type r8 when you want to output the visual

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Reggie, > Why has nobody offered this "solution" if it's common knowledge > to all who know the manual line by line? The solution — including essentially my \showStaff and \hideStaff functions, under different names — has already been posted in this very thread (by Jean-Charles). Please go

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Valentin, > Huh. > http://lilypond.org/doc/latest/Documentation/internals/skip_002devent > "Not accepted by any engraver or performer. " That is a little unfortunate… > How about putting ordinary rests and removing the stencil? > (I know, it’s ugly, but…) See the "bar-line-interface"

Re: Slur connecting fingering numbers

2019-02-05 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Mi., 6. Feb. 2019 um 00:18 Uhr schrieb Rachel Knight : > Hooray, it works and looks amazing! > Rachel > Glad I could help. Best, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 5. Februar 2019 22:32:59 MEZ schrieb Kieren MacMillan : >Hi David, > >> Pretty much. > >Okay. Thanks for the detailed and helpful answer. Consider this >"brainstorming a possible feature request" thread closed from my >perspective. > For now I will then generalize the solution I found today

issue with \transpose and \relative

2019-02-05 Thread John Doe
Hi, all, The Notation Reference section 1.1.2 says "Music inside a \transpose block is absolute unless a \relative is included in the block". I'm writing a function that uses \transpose to change a variable's pitch in a function. How can I check if the music entered was entered in a \relative

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Please work on your quoting. It's rather hard to figure out who said what. Reggie writes: > >> Lilypond is so bizarre sometimes with things. > > A totally useless and inflammatory comment. > > * Respect, but there are many things in Lilypond code that is bizarre > and confusing. Even those

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Reggie
Kieren MacMillan wrote > Hi Reggie, > >> Why has nobody offered this "solution" if it's common knowledge >> to all who know the manual line by line? > > The solution — including essentially my \showStaff and \hideStaff > functions, under different names — has already been posted in this very >

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Reggie (and Andrew et al.), > Can you share your function code with us please? Andrew’s snippet is included, below, with my functions applied. Andrew: I believe my addition of "bar-line-interface" to \showStaff solves your [more specific] issue, except in the very rare (?!) case that you

height of breath mark

2019-02-05 Thread Craig Dabelstein
Hi all, For the life of me I can't work out how to raise the height of a breath mark. Any pointers? All the best, Craig -- *Craig Dabelstein* Maxime's Music craig.dabelst...@gmail.com *http://maximesmusic.com .au* ___

Re: change user email address

2019-02-05 Thread Ben
On 2/5/2019 6:47 PM, Michael Abrams wrote: I would like to change the email address I registered with. How can I accomplish this? Should unsubscribe and reregister uding a different email address? Michael string...@rogers.com Hi Michael, I believe you can change your subscription settings

change user email address

2019-02-05 Thread Michael Abrams
I would like to change the email address I registered with. How can I accomplish this? Should unsubscribe and reregister uding a different email address? Michael string...@rogers.com . ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Working with Andrew’s "spacer" situation, I see now that my staff layout functions can be simplified significantly: since every break "must" be accompanied by a bar (even if it’s an invisible one!), one can simply use that interface (and no others!) to force visibility. In the snippet

Re: height of breath mark

2019-02-05 Thread Abraham Lee
Hi, Craig! On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 7:32 PM Craig Dabelstein wrote: > Hi all, > > For the life of me I can't work out how to raise the height of a breath > mark. Any pointers? > > All the best, > > Craig > Do you mean how tall it is, or the vertical position? Best, Abraham >

Re: Slur connecting fingering numbers

2019-02-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Hooray, it works and looks amazing! > > Glad I could help. This small example is really nice, and perhaps it can be added as a `harp music snippet' to the documentation. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Selectively remove some staves consisting only of rests

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi all, > > Working with Andrew’s "spacer" situation, I see now that my staff > layout functions can be simplified significantly: since every break > "must" be accompanied by a bar (even if it’s an invisible one!), Unless Forbid_line_break_engraver has been removed.

Re: issue with \transpose and \relative

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
John Doe writes: > Hi, all, > > The Notation Reference section 1.1.2 says "Music inside a \transpose block > is absolute unless a \relative is included in the block". I'm writing a > function that uses \transpose to change a variable's pitch in a function. > > How can I check if the music

Re: harp basic muffle

2019-02-05 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi Rachel, thanks for the muffle glyphs, they look really nice. A question: is there a way to get the stem_engraver to accept these glyphs? If it could, it would be possible to notate string-specific muffling (something called for by some contemporary scores). Thanks for the help, A On Fri,

Re: Slur connecting fingering numbers

2019-02-05 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 2/5/19, Thomas Morley wrote: > Attached a first try Wow, that’s beautiful! Please let me know when you deem it LSR-ready :-) Cheers, V. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Slur connecting fingering numbers

2019-02-05 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Di., 5. Feb. 2019 um 09:26 Uhr schrieb Valentin Villenave : > > On 2/5/19, Thomas Morley wrote: > > Attached a first try > > Wow, that’s beautiful! Please let me know when you deem it LSR-ready :-) This will not happen very soon. The LSR runs 2.18.2, but the used make-tie-stencil is a 2.19

Re: Horizontal shifting of chords

2019-02-05 Thread Robert Blackstone
Hi Andrew, Thank you for your reaction. I can understand that you did not understand why I wanted to centre the final chord. I was thinking of the perectly centered final rests, and if the last bar had not contained a \breve chord but a rest R1*2 would have produced it. I thought that such a

Re: A strange behaivor of autobeaming

2019-02-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 04.02.19 um 20:53 schrieb Павел Буданов: Hello everybody! You can see on the next image, that autobeaming is not always correct: For the sake of experiment, I tried to put this snippet to separate file: \scaleDurations 2/3 \relative f, {    \clef bass    \set subdivideBeams = ##t    \set

Re: Align bracket not to notes but to enclosing bars

2019-02-05 Thread Urs Liska
Hi David, Am 04.02.19 um 14:20 schrieb David Nalesnik: Hi Urs, On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:12 AM Urs Liska wrote: ... I believe you will need to look for the bar lines (or the containing NonMusicalPaperColumns). Here's a (still-working as of 2.19.82) example which uses the MeasureCounter and a

Re: harp basic muffle

2019-02-05 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 2/5/19, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: > A question: is there a way to get the stem_engraver to accept these glyphs? Well, of course you can always replace the NoteHead stencil with a markup: %% mufflePath= \markup \path #0.15 #'((moveto -1.25 0) (lineto 1.25 0)

Re: Slur connecting fingering numbers

2019-02-05 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Di., 5. Feb. 2019 um 04:05 Uhr schrieb Rachel Knight : > > Hi, > The slur looks great and I was able to implement it for regular notes (the E > and D in the example below). In my example though, I need the slur to be > between the two notes labeled with fingering “1.” The small notes are

Re: A strange behaivor of autobeaming

2019-02-05 Thread Павел Буданов
Thank you for the detailed explanation. вт, 5 февр. 2019 г. в 13:31, Urs Liska : > > Am 04.02.19 um 20:53 schrieb Павел Буданов: > > Hello everybody! You can see on the next image, that autobeaming is not > always correct: > > For the sake of experiment, I tried to put this snippet to separate

Re: Reducing top margin for a single page in a score

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Andrew, > But I iwll ahve to have a separate book/bookpart/whatever and stitch the > score together. This is simple to do but very inconvenient when I am making > lots of drafts and sending them to the composer for checking, approval, and > viewing constantly. Did you try my suggestion

Re: Horizontal shifting of chords

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Robert, > I will have a go with the extensive and complicated thing you forwarded. (But > not today. ) You can also go with a short and simple, but manually-set, thing: \layout { line-width = 5\in ragged-right = ##f } { c''4 4 4 4 \tweak extra-offset #'(6.75 . 0) 1 \bar "|." } Hope

Re: Configuration Point & Click

2019-02-05 Thread foxfanfare
Okay, I think I solved the issue. I'll update this post with the correct solution and some of my configuration when I'd be sure it's working properly (for those interested!). -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___

Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Urs Liska
[Resending because I sent it from the wrong address so it probably won't get through. Apologies if it does and gest duplicated ...] Hi all, I succeeded overriding a MultiMeasureRest's stencil with a custom markup to display arbitrary markups centered in a measure. So I know how to use the

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, Isn’t this something that should be available to NoteHead (or NoteColumn) directly, rather than through MMR? Is there some measure-centred-interface that could be created to handle this? If so, that would also be *so* helpful for spanners (eliminating the need for David N’s

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Kieren, Am 05.02.19 um 16:35 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Urs, Isn’t this something that should be available to NoteHead (or NoteColumn) directly, rather than through MMR? That would be cool, although I'd think that MMRs are generally the only items that are printed in the middle of a

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > I'd think that MMRs are generally the only items that are printed in the > middle of a measure. No: MMRs [essentially always], measure numbers [often], final single-note columns [in many engravings], boxed markup/instructions inside the staff [in modern music], over-staff markups

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Hi Kieren, > > Am 05.02.19 um 16:35 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: >> Hi Urs, >> >> Isn’t this something that should be available to NoteHead (or >> NoteColumn) directly, rather than through MMR? > > > That would be cool, although I'd think that MMRs are generally the > only items

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Mark Knoop
At 15:23 on 05 Feb 2019, Urs Liska wrote: > I succeeded overriding a MultiMeasureRest's stencil with a custom markup > to display arbitrary markups centered in a measure. So I know how to use > the MMR's properties to determine a measure's center and place custom > stencils appropriately. > >

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Mark, Am 05.02.19 um 16:56 schrieb Mark Knoop: At 15:23 on 05 Feb 2019, Urs Liska wrote: I succeeded overriding a MultiMeasureRest's stencil with a custom markup to display arbitrary markups centered in a measure. So I know how to use the MMR's properties to determine a measure's center and

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread David Nalesnik
Off the top of my head-- On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 9:51 AM Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi Urs, > > > I'd think that MMRs are generally the only items that are printed in the > > middle of a measure. > > No: MMRs [essentially always], measure numbers [often], final single-note > columns [in many

Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, I succeeded overriding a MultiMeasureRest's stencil with a custom markup to display arbitrary markups centered in a measure. So I know how to use the MMR's properties to determine a measure's center and place custom stencils appropriately. However, now I have to do the same but not

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 05.02.19 um 18:17 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Kieren MacMillan writes: >> >>> Hi David, >>> I have no idea what you mean by "an interface could be added". Grob interfaces are a fixed component of the grob data structure: you cannot add or remove them at

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > What do you think the presence or absence of some interface implies? I think the presence of an interface means a shared behaviour is implied between grob types which have that interface, the implementation of which is individually determined for each grob type. For example, I

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi Urs, > >> I'd think that MMRs are generally the only items that are printed in >> the middle of a measure. > > No: MMRs [essentially always], measure numbers [often], final > single-note columns [in many engravings], boxed markup/instructions > inside the staff [in

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > I have no idea what you mean by "an interface could be added". Grob > interfaces are a fixed component of the grob data structure: you cannot > add or remove them at will. A certain grob type either has an interface > or not. It's not a per-grob decision to make. Looking at the

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Mark, Am 05.02.19 um 17:01 schrieb Urs Liska: Hi Mark, Am 05.02.19 um 16:56 schrieb Mark Knoop: At 15:23 on 05 Feb 2019, Urs Liska wrote: I succeeded overriding a MultiMeasureRest's stencil with a custom markup to display arbitrary markups centered in a measure. So I know how to use the

word-wrapping in a markup column

2019-02-05 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi all, This snippet leaves no space between the word-wrapped items: \version "2.19.82" \markup \override #'(line-width . 10) \column { \wordwrap { a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a } \wordwrap { b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b } \wordwrap { c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> What do you think the presence or absence of some interface implies? > > I think the presence of an interface means a shared behaviour is > implied between grob types which have that interface, the > implementation of which is individually determined for

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > An interface may include some property but that does not make a grob do > anything with that property. Those grobs which you'd desire to heed > that property would all have to be programmatically changed to look at > that property, by employing some interface-specific function in

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.02.19 um 18:17 schrieb David Kastrup: Kieren MacMillan writes: Hi David, I have no idea what you mean by "an interface could be added". Grob interfaces are a fixed component of the grob data structure: you cannot add or remove them at will. A certain grob type either has an

Re: Use arbitrary notes (with stem/flag) as MMR stencil override

2019-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> I have no idea what you mean by "an interface could be added". Grob >> interfaces are a fixed component of the grob data structure: you cannot >> add or remove them at will. A certain grob type either has an interface >> or not. It's not a per-grob