Re: registering a composition

2020-05-27 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 5/27/20, Francesco Petrogalli wrote: > I am replying here in the middle of the thread, because I decided to > opt for an open source license after reading the considerations in > this email. The source is available here: > https://github.com/fpetrogalli/trr Hi Francesco, That’s excellent news!

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-26 Thread Francesco Petrogalli
I am replying here in the middle of the thread, because I decided to opt for an open source license after reading the considerations in this email. The source is available here: https://github.com/fpetrogalli/trr Thank you Valentin for "opening the can of worms". It's been very informative. I hav

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-24 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/05/20 14:18, Valentin Villenave wrote: > On 5/24/20, David Kastrup wrote: >> You are working from the premise that everybody except you is an idiot. > > Guys, stop bickering and veering off-topic. The original purpose of > this thread was to help Francesco gain some insight into the copyri

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 5/24/20, David Kastrup wrote: > You are working from the premise that everybody except you is an idiot. Guys, stop bickering and veering off-topic. The original purpose of this thread was to help Francesco gain some insight into the copyright modalities and possible publishing choices; arguin

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-24 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/05/20 12:52, David Kastrup wrote: > antlists writes: > >> So you don't understand the difference between the story, and the book? > > You are working from the premise that everybody except you is an idiot. > That does not make a backdrop for a discussion but monologueing. I am > not inter

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-24 Thread David Kastrup
antlists writes: > So you don't understand the difference between the story, and the book? You are working from the premise that everybody except you is an idiot. That does not make a backdrop for a discussion but monologueing. I am not interested in that. -- David Kastrup

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-24 Thread antlists
On 24/05/2020 11:59, David Kastrup wrote: Wols Lists writes: On 24/05/20 01:08, Carl Sorensen wrote: Actually, GNU allows charging for the software. From the Preamble to the GNU GPL: "When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are de

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-24 Thread David Kastrup
Wols Lists writes: > On 24/05/20 01:08, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> Actually, GNU allows charging for the software. From the Preamble to the >> GNU GPL: >> >> "When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not >> price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that >> y

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-23 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/05/20 01:08, Carl Sorensen wrote: > Actually, GNU allows charging for the software. From the Preamble to the GNU > GPL: > > "When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our > General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom > to dist

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-23 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/23/20, 2:46 PM, "antlists" wrote: On 22/05/2020 13:26, Gilles Sadowski wrote: >> IIUC, CC licences aim to protect against others making money from >> your work. How is "ASCAP not being happy" related to that? >> > >Unless I'm mistaken, LilyPond (GNU) and CC belong to the "eco-system" >

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-23 Thread David Kastrup
antlists writes: > On 22/05/2020 13:26, Gilles Sadowski wrote: >> IIUC, CC licences aim to protect against others making money from >> your work. How is "ASCAP not being happy" related to that? >> > >> Unless I'm mistaken, LilyPond (GNU) and CC belong to the "eco-system" >> where sharing is the

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-23 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le sam. 23 mai 2020 à 22:46, antlists a écrit : > > On 22/05/2020 13:26, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > IIUC, CC licences aim to protect against others making money from > > your work. How is "ASCAP not being happy" related to that? > > > > > Unless I'm mistaken, LilyPond (GNU) and CC belong to the "

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-23 Thread Tim McNamara
You know, the human race managed this pretty successfully for a few hundred years before computers... seems like this might be overthinking it. > On May 23, 2020, at 6:30 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 23 May 2020 at 23:35:10 (+0200), Hans Åberg wrote: On 23 May 2020, at 23:00, antlis

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-23 Thread David Wright
On Sat 23 May 2020 at 23:35:10 (+0200), Hans Åberg wrote: > > On 23 May 2020, at 23:00, antlists wrote: > > On 23/05/2020 20:21, Valentin Villenave wrote: > >> I’m not saying the world is a nice place (it isn’t); you should, at > >> the very least, secure*your* copyright by having a solid proof o

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-23 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 23 May 2020, at 23:00, antlists wrote: > > On 23/05/2020 20:21, Valentin Villenave wrote: >> I’m not saying the world is a nice place (it isn’t); you should, at >> the very least, secure*your* copyright by having a solid proof of >> anteriority, as we discussed. What I’m saying is that y

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-23 Thread antlists
On 23/05/2020 20:21, Valentin Villenave wrote: I’m not saying the world is a nice place (it isn’t); you should, at the very least, secure*your* copyright by having a solid proof of anteriority, as we discussed. What I’m saying is that you shouldn’t overestimate the possible threat to your work

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-23 Thread antlists
On 22/05/2020 13:26, Gilles Sadowski wrote: IIUC, CC licences aim to protect against others making money from your work. How is "ASCAP not being happy" related to that? Unless I'm mistaken, LilyPond (GNU) and CC belong to the "eco-system" where sharing is the norm (to enhance the common cult

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-23 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 5/23/20, Francesco Petrogalli wrote: > Hi Valentin - I am all new to these things and every time I look into > this I get more confused. No problem. (I’m adding back the list, just in case others may correct me if I say something wrong and/or stupid.) > Say I give a CC BY license to the work,

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-22 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 5/21/20, Francesco Petrogalli wrote: > In the spirit > of open source, I initially wanted to use a CC-BY license on the work, > then I read this and completely changed my mind. > https://www.ascap.com/playback/2007/FALL/FEATURES/creative_commons_licensing, > which somehow seems to contradict >

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-22 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi. Le jeu. 21 mai 2020 à 19:57, Francesco Petrogalli a écrit : > > OK, thank you all for the kind reply. > > Here is my understanding, just double cheking with you guys is my > reasoning is right. I can't follow the whole reasoning (see below), but the conclusion seems nevertheless utterly unfa

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-21 Thread Francesco Petrogalli
OK, thank you all for the kind reply. Here is my understanding, just double cheking with you guys is my reasoning is right. Step 1: secure the copyright of the PDF of the composition. I am tempted to say that this is already done by the fact that I have stored all commits of the development of th

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-21 Thread Tim McNamara
> On May 21, 2020, at 3:34 AM, Valentin Villenave > wrote: > > On 5/21/20, Francesco Petrogalli wrote: >> I have written it with lilypond, but it hasn't been performed yet. I >> wanted to secure the copyright before performing it. Given that there >> is no performing artist yet, there is no

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-21 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
See also: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1113 Cheers, Pierre Le jeu. 21 mai 2020 à 11:04, Federico Bruni a écrit : > Il giorno gio 21 mag 2020 alle 10:33, Valentin Villenave > ha scritto: > > All you > > need to have is a way of proving your anteriority if anyone were to > > come and claim

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-21 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno gio 21 mag 2020 alle 10:33, Valentin Villenave ha scritto: All you need to have is a way of proving your anteriority if anyone were to come and claim they’ve written it instead of you. A modern alternative to sending a sealed package is digital watermarking. Francesco, as you are

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-21 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 5/21/20, Francesco Petrogalli wrote: > I have written it with lilypond, but it hasn't been performed yet. I > wanted to secure the copyright before performing it. Given that there > is no performing artist yet, there is no recording, so I cannot > register it with ASCAP. Have I got this right?

Re: registering a composition

2020-05-20 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Francesco, Not sure if this gives you any help but the first thing I'd do in your case is to secure the pdf with a password. Cheers, Pierre Le jeu. 21 mai 2020 à 05:51, Francesco Petrogalli < francesco.petroga...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Hi all, > > apologies in advance for the slightly off topi