Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:16:15AM +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: Is it intended that pre-release hwpacks will be long-lived?  I expected the same rules to apply as to pre-release images:  ephemeral objects used during development that would be replaced at release time by images built from

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-13 Thread Scott Bambrough
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 10:50 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: If the separate lexbuilder backend deployment causes any issues we can also just hook this up to live-helper so we produce the hwpacks in the headless run. No, this shouldn't be the case. Do it right the first time, and have a longer

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-13 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Scott Bambrough scott.bambro...@linaro.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 10:50 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: If the separate lexbuilder backend deployment causes any issues we can also just hook this up to live-helper so we produce the hwpacks in the headless

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-13 Thread Scott Bambrough
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 11:56 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Scott Bambrough scott.bambro...@linaro.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 10:50 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: If the separate lexbuilder backend deployment causes any issues we can also just hook this

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-13 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Scott Bambrough scott.bambro...@linaro.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 11:56 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Scott Bambrough scott.bambro...@linaro.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 10:50 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: If the

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-13 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:03 PM, James Westby james.wes...@canonical.com wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:50:29 +0200, Alexander Sack a...@linaro.org wrote: You can see the hwpacks at  http://jameswestby.net:8080/view/Hardware%20Packs/ awesome ... i will check those a bit later. Unfortunately

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-13 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:03 PM, James Westby james.wes...@canonical.com wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:35:05 +0200, Alexander Sack a...@linaro.org wrote: headless is already available and can already be used for testing (even if omap3 is in there atm). The other heads are failing to build

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-13 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:03:16 +0200, Alexander Sack a...@linaro.org wrote: Sure: with this change we can produce our images without any kernel whatsoever (e.g. as those are coming from hwpacks). Ok, we're back to this again. I still haven't heard any convincing arguments for why that is a good

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-09-03 Thread James Westby
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:13:11 -0300, Christian Robottom Reis k...@linaro.org wrote: Yes. Scott B. or Ian may have a linaro-infrastructure project or project group in the wings to which we should move it later if so, but don't let yourself get blocked for lack of a place to put it ;-) Created:

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-08-27 Thread James Westby
[ resending with the correct address ] On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:03:32 -0400, James Westby james.wes...@canonical.com wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:26:46 -0400, James Westby james.wes...@linaro.org wrote: There is also one larger question, which is that I disagree that we shouldn't provide

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-08-27 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 02:05:30PM -0400, James Westby wrote: https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/UserPlatforms/Specs/10.11/HardwarePacks to a state where I am happy to start implementation now. Feedback on the spec is still welcome, and things will still be subject to change. In

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-08-27 Thread Jamie Bennett
On 27 Aug 2010, at 19:05, James Westby wrote: On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:03:32 -0400, James Westby james.wes...@canonical.com wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:26:46 -0400, James Westby james.wes...@linaro.org wrote: Is the current status quo to create specs under the linaro project on Launchpad?

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-08-24 Thread Scott Bambrough
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 17:06 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: 2. What is the purpose of the hwpack.deb that is mentioned in places? this is scotts baby i think. personally i am fine without a hwpack.deb. I think the idea was that configs etc. like apt source lines accompanying

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-08-23 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:14 PM, James Westby james.wes...@linaro.orgwrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:06:18 +0200, Alexander Sack a...@linaro.org wrote: in theory yes, but practically I don't expect this to become a major use case. If it's easier assuming that there is just one in the first

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-08-23 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:52:47 +0200, Alexander Sack a...@linaro.org wrote: I thought a bit more about this and i think the single hwpacks policy makes the clean up part mentioned in last sentence of user story 2 easier to implement. Right. Maybe we want hardware pack types in the future, so

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-08-23 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:29 PM, James Westby james.wes...@linaro.orgwrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:06:18 +0200, Alexander Sack a...@linaro.org wrote: 6. What are the use cases for support information? We want to label hwpacks as unsupported or community so we can offer them to

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-08-23 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:31:37 +0200, Alexander Sack a...@linaro.org wrote: Do we already have a linaro support status for packages implemented? or are you refering to the ubuntu style main/universe/package-set support status here? I'm asking both conceptually and concretely. In theory, how

Re: Hardware pack questions

2010-08-21 Thread James Westby
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:15:31 -0300, Christian Robottom Reis k...@canonical.com wrote: I'm not sure I understand your question, though. Are you asking if packages could be excluded at hardware-pack install time or at creation time? I mean at install time. The only use case I have seen so far