Re: [LINK] Let's pause before drinking the 'coding in schools' Kool-Aid

2015-06-07 Thread andrew clarke
On Wed 2015-06-03 17:13:47 UTC+1000, Bernard Robertson-Dunn (b...@iimetro.com.au) wrote: There is far more to technology, in general, and Information Systems in particular, than coding. And when it comes to the use of technology, knowledge of coding isn't even relevant. Despite the good

Re: [LINK] Let's pause before drinking the 'coding in schools' Kool-Aid

2015-06-05 Thread Brenda Aynsley
On 03/06/15 14:12, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: On 3/06/2015 7:37 PM, Brenda Aynsley wrote: So forgive those of us who promote 'coding in schools' and recognise what we are attempting to do perhaps clumsily but you might accept the validity of the reasons we are doing it. The reasons are

Re: [LINK] Let's pause before drinking the 'coding in schools' Kool-Aid

2015-06-05 Thread JanW
At 09:07 AM 6/06/2015, Tom Worthington wrote: But I am not sure how you teach or test critical thinking. If you can't teach it, or at least test it, then it is just more marketing hype. Sure you can. You present problems /cases that require judgement, analysis, consideration of alternatives

Re: [LINK] Let's pause before drinking the 'coding in schools' Kool-Aid

2015-06-04 Thread James Collins
@mailman.anu.edu.au Subject: Re: [LINK] Let's pause before drinking the 'coding in schools' Kool-Aid On 5/06/2015 1:12 PM, David Lochrin wrote: Did you ever learn the boot sequence which had to be keyed in to those neon-light register switches on the front panel of a Univac 418 (:-)? No but I did learn

Re: [LINK] Let's pause before drinking the 'coding in schools' Kool-Aid

2015-06-04 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 5/06/2015 2:25 PM, James Collins wrote: I used to be a Systems Programmer/Analyst at Sperry/Univac. I got to know Exec8 quite well. Another now useless skill. Then I pick up my Tablet device and look for a Digital Movie to watch while I engage in the International pool of information and

Re: [LINK] Let's pause before drinking the 'coding in schools' Kool-Aid

2015-06-04 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
Arguing somewhat against my suggestion that STEM is the way to go, I suggest that the most important skill is critical thinking. I put it in quotes because there are many definitions of the term, however, I would go along with any that incorporated two essential components: 1) Reason/logic

Re: [LINK] Let's pause before drinking the 'coding in schools' Kool-Aid

2015-06-04 Thread JanW
At 09:39 AM 5/06/2015, David Lochrin wrote: But I just felt embarrassed listening to poor Bill going on about coding... I'm sure any decent interviewer would soon reveal he knew as much about coding as Brandis does (or did) about metadata. Most of our politicians read what they're handed,

Re: [LINK] Let's pause before drinking the 'coding in schools' Kool-Aid

2015-06-04 Thread JanW
At 11:00 AM 5/06/2015, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: Arguing somewhat against my suggestion that STEM is the way to go, I suggest that the most important skill is critical thinking. Yep, I agree with that. It's another level higher again in the hierarchy of 'skills'. Creativity is another at

Re: [LINK] Let's pause before drinking the 'coding in schools' Kool-Aid

2015-06-03 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 3/06/2015 7:37 PM, Brenda Aynsley wrote: So forgive those of us who promote 'coding in schools' and recognise what we are attempting to do perhaps clumsily but you might accept the validity of the reasons we are doing it. The reasons are admirable but IMHO computational thinking is a