Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-26 Thread J C Nash
I should note that I gave a talk on a topic closely related to this http://wiki.oclug.on.ca/doku.php?id=meetingpresentations2017#april (Backup to USB drives in a group or family context: strategies) jn ___ Linux mailing list Linux@lists.oclug.on.ca

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-26 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 13:51:02 +1000 (AEST) Robert Brockway wrote: > It sounds to me like your backups are online and replicating from the > primary somehow. The next question assumes that is so. Yep. > If data was deleted on the primary would that replicate to the

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-26 Thread Robert Brockway
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Robert P. J. Day wrote: i understand that dump is ubiquitous, and that it integrates with entries in /etc/fstab but, beyond that, does anyone seriously use dump for official backups these days? I haven't used it for backups for a long time but I do use it to migrate

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-26 Thread Robert Brockway
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018, Dianne Skoll wrote: My backups are all to hard drives in three separate locations. Everything is RAIDed. I'm placing my bet that not everything will fail at the same time. :) Hi Dianne. Long time no speak. It sounds to me like your backups are online and replicating

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 10:37:05 -0500 Tim Forbes wrote: > On the subject of remote media storage, I have always been concerned > about privacy and have not arrived at a good answer for my personal > situation. Perhaps a safety deposit box is the right answer, or maybe >

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:03:09 -0500 Rick Leir wrote: > How are dvd's for archiving photos? I would not trust consumer-recordable DVDs to last beyond a few years. My backups are all to hard drives in three separate locations. Everything is RAIDed. I'm placing my bet that

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread Spencer Cheng
Not very good for long term storage. Specific type of DVD media is more or less OK. > In general the problem is that of

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread J C Nash
I've had some dvds (DVD+R or DVD-R types) report read errors when I went to check them after a couple of years. It seems the physical media is not as stable as originally advertised. JN On 2018-02-25 02:03 PM, Rick Leir wrote: > How are dvd's for archiving photos? I have been betting on them.

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread Rick Leir
How are dvd's for archiving photos? I have been betting on them. They would not survive a fire, but they are compact so you can send a copy to a relative for safekeeping. I suspect that they would survive flooding. Maybe we will still have dvd drives in ten years! Otherwise we will have to copy

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread Tim Forbes
On 2018-02-24 01:05 PM, Richard Guy Briggs wrote: On 2018-02-24 11:27, Tim Forbes wrote: My desktop uses anacron to run a script that rsync's files from my server. For redundancy and to permit media rotation, the files go to a ZFS mirror array physically housed in two of these...

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-24 Thread Richard Guy Briggs
On 2018-02-24 11:27, Tim Forbes wrote: > My desktop uses anacron to run a script that rsync's files from my server. > For redundancy and to permit media rotation, the files go to a ZFS mirror > array physically housed in two of these... > > https://tinyurl.com/ydakecb7 > > ... Every now and

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-24 Thread Tim Forbes
My desktop uses anacron to run a script that rsync's files from my server. For redundancy and to permit media rotation, the files go to a ZFS mirror array physically housed in two of these... https://tinyurl.com/ydakecb7 ... Every now and then, I rotate-in recycled pairs of HDDs. A snapshot

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread Brett Delmage
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Vic Gedris wrote: I've been using http://rsnapshot.org for many years. Yes, it's an rsync wrapper. Should be available most distro package libraries. Likewise. ___ Linux mailing list Linux@lists.oclug.on.ca

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread Rick Leir
Robert Amanda is built on some bash scripts so you can understand and modify it to your needs. We used it at Cirrus. Bacula might be a strong contender. Cheers -- Rick On February 22, 2018 10:33:24 AM EST, "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > i'm prepping to teach 5 days of

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread Scott Murphy
I suspect that the answer to that depends on what you are using as a backup medium. I have a tape robot and more tapes than I can ever possibly use, so it gets some use. Mostly for archives. Amanda is a pain, as it wants to fill tapes, so lots of tape changes to get as much on a tape as

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread James
I just use rsync. On February 22, 2018 10:33:48 AM "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: i'm prepping to teach 5 days of compTIA linux+ next week, after which the students will have the option to write exams based on that content for their LPI certification, so i'm working my

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread J C Nash
I gave a little talk at OCLUG on how I put rsync into a script and then link that to Double Commander so I have a "button" that rsync's left window to the right one. Also buttons for my "remove from A (left) if in B (right)" directory tree. I'm finding these aids helpful I also have special

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread Vic Gedris
I've been using http://rsnapshot.org for many years. Yes, it's an rsync wrapper. Should be available most distro package libraries. -Vic On Feb 22, 2018 17:02, "Paul Hays" wrote: I use a gui frontend for rsync called luckyBackup (

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Guy Briggs
On 2018-02-22 10:46, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Dianne Skoll wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:33:24 -0500 (EST) > > "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > > > > but what are folks out there using for their backups these days? > > > tar? rsync? amanda? > > >

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-22 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Dianne Skoll wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:33:24 -0500 (EST) > "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > > but what are folks out there using for their backups these days? > > tar? rsync? amanda? > > I use rsync. i'll keep track of the responses i get just

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-22 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:33:24 -0500 (EST) "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > but what are folks out there using for their backups these days? > tar? rsync? amanda? I use rsync. Regards, Dianne. ___ Linux mailing list

[OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-22 Thread Robert P. J. Day
i'm prepping to teach 5 days of compTIA linux+ next week, after which the students will have the option to write exams based on that content for their LPI certification, so i'm working my way through the course manual and just hit the section on backups, which opens with explaining how to use