Leland Lucius wrote:
A bigger question might be
why must vmpoff be in upper case??
Well, I reckon cause the book says so, but you're right about what you
say
below. The VMPOFF and VMPHALT processing could convert the command to
uppercase since it is a requirement. How about a nice 1
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:27:53 -0800, Fargusson.Alan wrote:
One of the results of the way Linux is developed is that old hardware tends
to work better than new hardware. Try knoppix on a new notebook and it is
less likely to work.
I'll try that - we have a fairly new compaq. Although my impression
Regarding knoppix -
try these:
http://www.distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=interview-knoppix
http://thetechnozone.com/pcbuyersguide/software/system/Review-Knoppix_Linux.html
I've only really tried knoppix once or twice, and was just impressed! Personally
I've used SuSE for years, but will
Since I have been having difficulty connecting to the primary RH distribution site
(ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/7.2/en/os/s390/RedHat/RPMS/), I have been
connecting to the MCS mirror site for distributing RPM's for RH Linux v7.2 on s390
This is probably a VM LISTSERV question but I think it has value with this
thread. My zVM person found 0301 as more current than 0202. Would you
recommend 0301 or 0202? We are currently 0201.
Al Schilla
-Original Message-
From: Robert J Brenneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday,
SCO FILES LAWSUIT AGAINST IBM
SCO files billion dollar lawsuit for misappropriation of trade secrets,
tortious interference, unfair competition and breach of contract
LINDON, Utah-March 7, 2003-The SCO(R) Group (SCO) (Nasdaq: SCOX), the owner of the UNIX
operating system, announced today that it
Oh well---tired of always hearing Gate's beeing sue and I guess it is IBM's
time again...
Gathe SCO not making enough money for the VP's to cover all the good times
they want and can't lay off anymore people to get there bonus and
payouts
I didn't think you could get a linux only z800. I thought you had to have at least
one zOS enabled engine.
Bill
-Original Message-
From: Ferguson, Neale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 1000th z800 Sold
See:
SCO's complaint is giving me giggle after giggle:
c) A carrier-grade Linux project has been undertaken to use UNIX code, methods,
concepts, and
know-how for the unlawful purpose of transforming Linux into an enterprise-hardened
operating
system;
I _LOVE_ it - the unlawful purpose of
I looks like Oregon knows where it going wiht open source. Hope other state
follow their lead. See article:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-11-991462.html
I didn't think you could get a linux only z800. I thought you had to have at least
one zOS
enabled engine.
http://www.isham-research.com/linuxonly.html
--
Phil Payne
http://www.isham-research.com
+44 7785 302 803
+49 173 6242039
It's the 0LF, available in 1 to 4 engines. I also think it's packaged with
z/VM and the subscription service.
On Friday 07 March 2003 08:24 am, you wrote:
I didn't think you could get a linux only z800. I thought you had to have
at least one zOS enabled engine.
Bill
-Original
No, have a look:
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/800linux.html
It´s just a zSeries with z/VM and Linux, no zOS.
--
Mit freundlichen Gruessen/With kind regards
Thorsten Hock
Teamleiter/Teamleader Systems-Management
Ueberseering 24, 22297 Hamburg, Germany
IT-Services and Solutions
Hi Ken,
Do the downloaded rpm files md5sums match the manifest:
ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/redhat/redhat/linux/7.2/en/os/s390/Manifest.txt
We've specifically included the manifest text to try to make it easier
to check downloaded rpms ... :)
HTH,
Brock
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 08:05, Kenneth
Both a binary and src rpm for zebra are part of the 7.2 product ... and
I did find a zebra binary rpm at the rufus.w3.org site:
ftp://rufus.w3.org/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/s390/RedHat/RPMS/zebra-0.91a-6.s390.rpm
Brock
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 18:35, Post, Mark K wrote:
That's interesting. Since
I think SCO is going to get themselves laughed out of court. The burden of
proof is on them.
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Hi all,
We want to install LINUX on our G5 in LPAR mode. I have a couple of basic questions...
1) What LINUX distribution is the most popular for the S390?
Advantages/disadvantages?
2) The extra LPAR that we have setup, has an IOCP definition that shares ALL disk
drives with our
At 07:21 AM 3/7/2003, you wrote:
I think SCO is going to get themselves laughed out of court. The burden of
proof is on them.
Another issue where the legal slugs are mucking with technology for there
own benifit !!!
Kenneth G. Dreger
Unemployed and seeking position
Sr. IBM Systems
Brock,
That's where I found it, too. Some of the other mirrors don't have it. Of
course, some mirrors also have some RPMs that the Red Hat one does not have,
so there's a lot of things out there that are out of synch.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Brock Organ [mailto:[EMAIL
Mike,
I'll answer the second question. Unless your gen excludes those devices
from the Linux/390 LPAR, there is no way to guarantee the integrity of the
data on them. So, don't do that. Create a new gen that excludes them.
In answer to your first question, please don't select a Linux
It seems that I also need to install DB2 UDB before installing Websphere.
But I have searched and searched and can not find a Trail/Demo version of
DB2 for Linux s390. I find it for every other Linux platform (IA32,
pSeries, iSeries) but not s390 or zSeries.
Anyone know where I can find a
Sorry, but SCO started this, not the lawyers. I have no great love for
lawyers in general, but I'm not going to blame this one on them.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Ken Dreger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LOL
I think SCO is going to get themselves laughed out of court. The burden of
proof is on them.
I've just read through the complaint - and it is far from giggles. It
says that IBM developed AIX under a Unix license, and then signed an
additional contract Project Monterey - and has taken
I don't know that there's so much an advantage of one distribution over the
other. The decision can boil down to a few things: company standard, price,
personal preference, maybe more. If your corporate standard dictates that
you run a certain distribution, then this problem is essentially
On Friday, 03/07/2003 at 10:38 EST, Mike Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi all,
We want to install LINUX on our G5 in LPAR mode. I have a couple of
basic
questions...
1) What LINUX distribution is the most popular for the S390?
Advantages/disadvantages?
2) The extra LPAR that we have
1) My feeling is that SuSE is probably the most popular for s390 at the
moment, but I don't have any hard data to back that up. If you just want
to play Debian is unencumbered by any issues with a vendor wanting money
from you. The potential downfall is that ISVs seem to have certified their
Except with the 2.4 kernels, all those inaccessible volumes can be brought
online to Linux and formatted with no problems (or regard for what might
already be on them). The only real answer is to take them out of the gen.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL
I didn't think you could get a linux only z800. I thought you had to
have at least one zOS enabled engine.
There is no such thing as a zOS (s/b z/OS) enabled engine. There are
three ways processors can be configured on a zSeries system. As a
standard or traditional engine, as an Integrated
If you got a WAS 4/5 installation package from IBM DB2 UDB comes with it
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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:56:40AM -0500, Scott Chapman wrote:
1) My feeling is that SuSE is probably the most popular for s390 at the
moment, but I don't have any hard data to back that up. If you just want
to play Debian is unencumbered by any issues with a vendor wanting money
from you.
Again? I thought you got your boss straightened out about that the last
time.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Michael Short [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 1000th z800 Sold
Darn. After seeing this E-mail my boss
Think we'll ever see Linux be able to take advantage of coupling facility
stuff?
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Marcy,
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
I also had played with the number of lines and upper/lower case values but
didn't hit on the solution. After reading your note I compacted my
parmfile lines, filling each out as close to 80 as I could. Changed my
INST_INFO=SSH to uppercase and it works
Yeah, well in this case, it was Jim himself that had the brain fade, (see
what he wrote below) so he's not going to be doing any complaining this
time. :)
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Gregg C Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:34 AM
To: [EMAIL
Wow! Thanks to everyone for all the great info!
One more question...
We have two GbE OSA adapters used by our production system for TCPIP. Is there any
problem sharing one of these with the LINUX LPAR?
Thanks again!
Mike Martin
Systems Programmer
Wake Med Information Services
3000 New Bern
Don't shoot the messenger. I was only citing Jim's E-mail :-).
I have not been able to find anything that says if wget is available on the GNU CD for
Windows, or not. In any case I think it would be easier to buy something like Red
Hat. Even split over several sessions, 60 hours is a long time to tie up a phone line.
-Original Message-
From: Per
Hello again from Gregg C Levine
I'm not stunning you Michael. I'm only doing exactly what the both of
them would have done. And then waiting to see what else develops.
---
Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Force will
Mike,
Yes, but it's usually caused by people not reading the doc thoroughly. It
can be done, just make sure you know what you're doing, both on the
Linux/390 side as well as the other. Again, lots of discussion in this
mailing list about that, some of it very recent. There's also a
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:49:47 -0800, Fargusson.Alan wrote:
I have not been able to find anything that says if wget is available on the
GNU CD for Windows, or not. In any case I think it would be easier to buy
something like Red Hat. Even split over several sessions, 60 hours is a
long time to tie
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Ronald Van Der Laan wrote:
/* */
Call Diag 8, 'CP IPL LINUX PARM VMPOFF=ipl cms MEM=64M'
We're presenting examples and omitting context.
What works in REXX on CMS might not work from a Linux shell
and probably will *not* work from the un-aided CP command line.
Ronald, I'm
I just checked, and SCOX has a market value of $28.9M. At this price it would be
reasonable for IBM to buy SCO and avoid litigation. I have to wonder if that is what
SCO has in mind.
One more question...
We have two GbE OSA adapters used by our production system for TCPIP.
Is there any problem sharing one of these with the LINUX LPAR?
Funny you should ask.
Since you say LINUX LPAR, I'm assuming you have a single Linux image in
an LPAR, rather than a network of penguins
Lets see how this might play... IBM Buys SCO, Ergo, IBM owns Unix IBM
then puts Unix in the open source community and it's strengths get merged
into Linux Wouldn't THAT be an interesting footnote to history.
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| | Fargusson.Alan |
Probably cheaper too for IBM then developing equivalent function in Linux.
-Original Message-
From: James Melin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SCO FILES LAWSUIT AGAINST IBM
Lets see how this might play... IBM
It would obviously cheaper to buy SCO based on current market value, but
it could also be viewed as an admission of guilt. Something IBM would
probably want to avoid.
James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED]
03/07/2003 12:16 PM
Please respond to Linux on 390
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 06:46:55PM -0500, Ferguson, Neale wrote:
How do I, within a program, get the full pathname of the program I'm
executing? argv[0] will have the command name but not necessarily the full
pathname.
There may not even be a pathname which refers to the program being
Anyone know the going rate for SuSE support on s390 these days, or does
it vary (i.e. contact SuSE?). Does the # of images matter? # of IFL's?
Thanks,
~ Daniel
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This message is the property of Time Inc. or its
There is no such thing as a zOS (s/b z/OS) enabled engine. There are
three ways processors can be configured on a zSeries system.
Four.
z/OS vs z/OS.e
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http://www.isham-research.com
+44 7785 302 803
+49 173 6242039
Possibly, but they could claim it was accidental. SCO is saying that they have 30,000
contract agreements! Not everyone at IBM could possibly have read all of them.
-Original Message-
From: Steve Gentry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:21 AM
To: [EMAIL
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 11:40:21PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
But knoppix does /just/ that. What can be easier than placing the CD in
the tray, hit load, then reboot ? No HDD partitioning, no install, no
nothing, but Linux KDE up and running in 5mins flat. Not even Windows
can do that.
Are
i think they quoted us ~$12k for the first engine and a little less for subsequent
engines, but i wasn't involved in the payout, so i can't tell you what we payed. call
SuSE, they'll give you a quote.
From: Daniel Jarboe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2003/03/07 Fri PM 12:57:02 EST
To: [EMAIL
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:08:13PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Absolutely. And since you're looking to do an actual install anyway, knoppix
won't do you much good.
As a matter of fact, it will.
http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/1104.barr.html
--
- mdz
Daniel,
With the introduction of SLES8, anything that didn't come from SuSE would be
speculation. In the past, the prices were dependent on the number of
processors, and the type of processors (G5/G6/z900). Discounts started with
the second processor. You would be better off asking SuSE
Jim,
One point of disagreement. On my 2066-0A2 (z/800), I have an IFL, but no ICF
engine. I successfully defined and am using an LPAR as a Coupling Facility
using the IFL. So an IFL can be shared between a z/VM LPAR for Linux and a
CFCC LPAR for a Coupling Facility. I am not suggesting this, just
I'll bet not. How to talk to a CF is not documented. So any such code
would likely be OCO, like the OSA code. I doubt that IBM will want to
maintain this. The OSA code is important to sell hardware. To use a CF would
require not only the driver, but other software and maybe kernel changes
to
On Friday, 03/07/2003 at 09:24 EST, Beinert, William
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't think you could get a linux only z800. I thought you had to
have at
least one zOS enabled engine.
Yes, the z800 is available in an IFL-only configuration. From the IBM
sales manual:
The 2066 IBM eServer
we are running three linux images under z/VM 4.3
suse kernel 2.4.7(beta version), 9672 machine, gigabit card.
linux images has been runnig without any troblues for weeks.
we uploaded 500M data to linux01 image.
and then, linux01 image hangs suddenly
no ping, even i can't log in linux01 using 3270
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 19:08, Kenneth Illingsworth wrote:
When I try to install the libgnomeprint rpm via webmin, I get the following
dependency error:
error: failed dependencies:
gnome-print = 0.29 is needed by libgnomeprint15-0.29-6
Yet, when I try to install gnome-print:
error:
When I try to install the libgnomeprint rpm via webmin, I get the following dependency
error:
error: failed dependencies:
gnome-print = 0.29 is needed by libgnomeprint15-0.29-6
Yet, when I try to install gnome-print:
error: failed dependencies:
libgnomeprint15 = 0.29 is needed
One thing Vic, I learned from Rob a couple weeks ago.
For some reason, servers using QDIO, CTC, etc (Other than
IUCV).do not drop from queue, thus go into queue 3, thus
do not get their storage trimmed. This is of course badness.
As Rich pointed out, to see if the timer patch is working,
look at
For the MVS folks out there, think if it as an SMP/E co-requisite. They
have to go on at the same time. Just to make sure there's no confusion,
what Alan's saying is do this:
rpm -Uvh gnome-print-0.29-?.s390.rpm libgnomeprint15-0.29-6.s390.rpm
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Alan
I have been thinking about this, and I don't have a solution. I don't have a working
Linux system to test ideas on.
I suspect that the only way for this to work right would be if the Dl_info structure
had the full pathname.
-Original Message-
From: Ferguson, Neale [mailto:[EMAIL
Or they or Boeblingen can figure out how to get those drivers to allow the
guest to drop from queue. One other possible symptom is that your system
load never goes below 1.00. That's what I'm seeing on my 2.4.19 systems
anyway.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Barton Robinson
On Friday, 03/07/2003 at 12:13 CST, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim,
One point of disagreement. On my 2066-0A2 (z/800), I have an IFL, but no
ICF
engine. I successfully defined and am using an LPAR as a Coupling
Facility
using the IFL. So an IFL can be shared between a z/VM LPAR for
On Friday, 03/07/2003 at 06:56 CET, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
There is no such thing as a zOS (s/b z/OS) enabled engine. There are
three ways processors can be configured on a zSeries system.
Four.
z/OS vs z/OS.e
No, three: IFL, CF, and standard. z/OS and z/OS.e have the same
Eric,
Ok. Just to recap, you are dead in the water until you can get a CTC
connection to your production LPAR. That is the only way you're going to
get a working network with the current distributions. Once that is done,
you'll probably want to refer to the Linux for IBM zSeries and S/390:
How does the command 'which' work?
'which' walks through the PATH string looking for a match.
-- RMT
Michael:
OK, mea culpa. That is what I get for trying to respond to the list
before I have my morning coffee and while I am on a conf call at
the same time.
Of course it is Linux for S/390. Argh, the number of times I have
complained about others doing just this!
Regards, Jim
I detach my Virtual NIC and it want from Q3 to Q1... Is there any
turning I can do in the /proc ???
Post, Mark K
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Sent by: Linux
Yes, cut down your virtual machine sizes. They're (probably) way too big.
What are you doing that you think you need 1GB of virtual for the guests?
Also check your z/VM SRM parameters against some suggestions that have been
made on this mailing list. Check the archives for that.
Mark Post
The hang is definitely a symptom of your guest size and your SRM settings.
1GB is a little gratuitous (even if you are using Websphere).
So:
1. Cutdown your guest sizes
2. SET SRM DSPS 1
3. Check and adjust your SRM STORBUF settings (check the archives for hints
tips)
-Original Message-
0201 is the GA level, 0202 is last fall's RSU package, 0301 would be the
new one, I guess. I would consider 0202 to be the base level for the newer
kernel, It throws a message about having an up to date VM system when you
apply it. 0301 would probably be fine too, so go with that.
Guess I better
Mark Post wrote:
Or they or Boeblingen can figure out how to get those drivers to allow the
guest to drop from queue.
From what I understood about this issue it would appear that CP decides
a guest isn't 'really idle' if it has any CCW I/O currently in progress.
However, due to the way network
Ulrich,
One other symptom. When I echo 1 hz_timer, the status of
ksoftirqd_CPU0 becomes SWN. When I echo 0 hz_timer it becomes RWN.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Ulrich Weigand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL
Hah!
Did I or did I not say not to trust those Caldera/SCO buggers?!
The complaint is online at their website, and boy, does it read really stupidly.
From what I understand, they are targeting IBM because they claim IBM
introduced SCO licensed technology into Linux. Further they claim that IBM
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