Re: Just stirring the pot

2004-02-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
Gabe Goldberg wrote: Semi-autographed? First names only? He probably wrote the names in himself :-) Some time ago I went out on Amazon to get the VM/ESA Applications and Systems books (from the same Ranade series as the Rexx Handbook). But I discovered the out-of-print books are far less easy

Re: Just stirring the pot

2004-02-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
Ranga Nathan wrote: 3. syntax checking Let's say I write: myname='Alex' say mynaem /* note the typo */ Running this program would return 'mynaem', not a warning like variable mynaem not declared It's called 'signal on novalue' which you want to enable for serious programming.

signoff linux-390

2004-02-20 Thread Isidore Danguy
'signoff linux-390'

Re: signoff linux-390

2004-02-20 Thread Eric D Rossman
Since this is the second one in so many days, I figured that a gentle reminder for the list might be helpful. To leave the list, you need to send a message 'signoff linux-390' (without quotes, and in the _body_, not the subject) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope that helps. Eric Rossman Isidore

Re: Just stirring the pot

2004-02-20 Thread Dennis Wicks
Rob van der Heij To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: mSubject: Re: Just stirring the pot Sent by: Linux on 390 Port

Re: Just stirring the pot

2004-02-20 Thread John Ford
On 2/19/2004 2:25 PM Adam Thornton wrote: snip There's no way in Rexx to get a list of all the key names in the key/value pairs that make up a stem. I find that a huge problem in terms of conceptualizing problems the intuitive way for me. I've resorted to using a second compound variable to keep

Can I use main memory for VDISK?

2004-02-20 Thread
Can VDISK be made by main memory? Or only extended memory?

Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread Marist EDU
Please bear with me as I'm am Linux guy and not a Mainframe guy :-) We are running SLES8 under z/VM. We have purchased a new Shark and have DASD allocated as Open Systems. I would like to access this space from Linux. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks in Advance,

Re: Can I use main memory for VDISK?

2004-02-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
1h9+AX wrote: Can VDISK be made by main memory? Or only extended memory? Dear 1h9+AX VDISK resides in z/VM paging subsystem. Pages in use are in main memory and get paged out to expanded and later to DASD when nothing requires them to be inside.

Re: REAL WORLD L390 APPLICATIONS?

2004-02-20 Thread Robert Lee
I have seen several presentations on Linux on 390. According to folks from the IBM Linux Lab in Germany, a VERY SMALL percentage of the code is IBM specific. That code is primarily in the device support areas. Check out the following for more info ...

Re: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread Rob Schwartz
Hey Josh, The way we have our DASD set up is using S390 type volumes on the Shark. Rob - Original Message - From: Marist EDU [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM Please bear with me as

Re: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread Post, Mark K
Josh, Assuming your hardware has the appropriate level of support for FCP, look at this: http://linuxvm.org/present/SHARE100/S9333NFa.pdf Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marist EDU Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:40 AM To:

Re: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread Post, Mark K
But, if they've got the Shark configured for Open Systems, then they don't have to live with the 3390 form factor constraints. So, no need for LVM, software RAID, etc. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Schwartz Sent: Friday,

z/VM access to EMC (was: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM)

2004-02-20 Thread Larry Bertolini
Can Linux under z/VM can access EMC Symmetrix or DMX as FBA, not as 3390 (similar to the way it can access Shark)? At 12:12 PM 2/20/2004, you wrote: But, if they've got the Shark configured for Open Systems, then they don't have to live with the 3390 form factor constraints. So, no need for LVM,

Re: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread Rob Schwartz
Interesting idea... I need to look into this. Is there a way for z/OS to see those volumes? If not, we couldn't use OFFLINDR running on z/OS to backup the volumes. Are many shark shops using open system formatted DASD for z/Linux? Rob - Original Message - From: Post, Mark K [EMAIL

Re: z/VM access to EMC (was: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM)

2004-02-20 Thread David Boyes
Linux on 390 Port lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: Can Linux under z/VM can access EMC Symmetrix or DMX as FBA, not as 3390 (similar to the way it can access Shark)? Seems to work fine for us. The volumes must be FCP attached (just like the Shark), and VM itself must still use CKD for now, but

Re: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread McKown, John
No, z/OS cannot see anything other than Escon or Ficon [E]CKD dasd. It cannot directly backup FCP attached SCSI. You'd need to use something else to do your backups. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team This message (including any

Re: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 11:26, Rob Schwartz wrote: Are many shark shops using open system formatted DASD for z/Linux? More and more every day. It's *much* faster than ECKD. Adam

Rexecd and rshd

2004-02-20 Thread Rosti, Ken
Hello folks, I am tring to uses the rexec command from a VM/CMS userid to a SUSE SLES8 image running of the same VM system. z/VM Version 4 Release 4.0, service level 0301 (32-bit) The following CMS rexec with the debug flag command fails: rexec -d -l roske03 -p roske03 x55.35.123.98 ls REXEC

Re: z/VM access to EMC (was: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM)

2004-02-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: z/VM access to EMC (was: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM) Linux on 390 Port lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: Can Linux under

Re: z/VM access to EMC (was: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM)

2004-02-20 Thread Richard Troth
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, David Boyes wrote: Can Linux under z/VM can access EMC Symmetrix or DMX as FBA, not as 3390 (similar to the way it can access Shark)? Seems to work fine for us. The volumes must be FCP attached ... That's not FBA. It may be good, may be wise, may be the way of the

Very nice advocacy article on Groklaw.

2004-02-20 Thread McKown, John
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040220010045127 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is

Re: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread David Boyes
Interesting idea... I need to look into this. Is there a way for z/OS to see those volumes? No. z/OS has no support for FCP yet. If not, we couldn't use OFFLINDR running on z/OS to backup the volumes. But you can use my nifty Amanda/DFHSM combination, and you get file-level restore as

Can't mount nfs

2004-02-20 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Okay, folks, I've got a strange one here. this one has stumped my resident Unix experts that have been helping me with Linux/390 for two years. I've got two SLES8 servers on a VM LPAR connected via a guest lan. One server (LINUXVM1) is a repository for all the CDs and patches that SuSE sends

Re: z/VM access to EMC (was: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM)

2004-02-20 Thread Post, Mark K
256 channels would be my guess. SCSI over FCP gives better performance than emulated ECKD as well. See Neale's presentation on the web site. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:13 PM

Re: Just stirring the pot

2004-02-20 Thread Harding, Mike
I thought IBM made Object Rexx available for L390 some time ago. It allows classical Rexx programming and has OO capabilities which, for example, let you do something over all the members of a set (it has several collection classes). Mike Harding EDS VM National Capability 134 El Portal Place

Re: Can't mount nfs

2004-02-20 Thread Alex deVries
Gordon, Is portmap running on the client before you do the mount? - Alex Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: Okay, folks, I've got a strange one here. this one has stumped my resident Unix experts that have been helping me with Linux/390 for two years. I've got two SLES8 servers on a VM LPAR connected via

Re: Can't mount nfs

2004-02-20 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Alex, Portmap is indeed running. The Definition of a gentleman is a man who can play the banjo -- and don't! -Mark Twain Gordon Wolfe, Ph. D. (425)865-5940 VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company -- From: Alex deVries Reply To: Linux on 390 Port Sent: Friday,

Good references (documents etc. . .) regarding Kerberos for Authentication

2004-02-20 Thread Eric Sammons
Wondering if anyone knows where I might be able to get good documentation for implementing Kerberos for authentication in Linux? Also, any known tools out there to simply the management of users, like directory_administrator for ldap? Thanks! Eric Sammons

Re: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread David Boyes
What is the VM level required? I think FCP guest support was introduced in zVM 4.4, but double check -- memory begins to fail here. The Amanda stuff works with any release of post-VM/ESA AFAIK (i've tested VM/ESA 2.4 and z/VM 4.3+ personally). -- db

Re: Rexecd and rshd

2004-02-20 Thread Post, Mark K
Ken, I'll skip past the fact that you _really_ don't want to run any of the r commands (rsh, rexec, etc.) since they're so completely insecure. (SSH would be a much better option.) What does rpm -q rsh-server show you? If it shows as installed, then rpm -V rsh-server might tell you something.

Re: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread Michael Short
It looks like FCP guest support wsa introduced in 4.3. FCP IPL was in 4.4 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Michael Short/Towers Perrin) David Boyes

Re: Good references (documents etc. . .) regarding Kerberos for Authentication

2004-02-20 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Wondering if anyone knows where I might be able to get good documentation for implementing Kerberos for authentication in Linux? Also, any known tools out there to simply the management of users, like directory_administrator for ldap? I haven't written up LDAP with Kerberos - it is on my

Re: Rexecd and rshd

2004-02-20 Thread Rosti, Ken
Larry, Thanks, but that does not answer my question. Ken -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Bertolini Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rexecd and rshd At 03:03 PM 2/20/2004, you wrote: I'll

LVM Question

2004-02-20 Thread Dave MYERS
Last week I was creating some 100gb LVM filesystems on SLES8 SP2 using 3390-9's. I wanted to STRIPE (greater than 1) , but LVM kept telling me that I did not have enough space. I tried using more mod 9's...but kept getting the same msg. The only way it would let me build this 100gb filesystem

RH gcc 2.95.x compatibility libraries

2004-02-20 Thread Betsie Spann
Does anyone know which rpm files are the RHEL3 for s390x gcc 3.95.x compatibility libraries? Betsie

overwrite user direct c from a linux guest

2004-02-20 Thread Alejandro Leyva Rabinovich
Hi all, is there any way to overwrite the user direct c from a linux guest? What I want to do is: 1.- Read the user direct c 2.- Add, remove or change an entry 3.- Update user direct c 4.- Run directxa I've tried cmsfs, but i know that the directory has a special block size, so I dont know how

Re: Accessing DASD on a Shark from Linux under z/VM

2004-02-20 Thread Ferguson, Neale
z/VM 4.3 RSU 002 -Original Message- What is the VM level required? I think FCP guest support was introduced in zVM 4.4, but double check -- memory begins to fail here. The Amanda stuff works with any release of post-VM/ESA AFAIK (i've tested VM/ESA 2.4 and z/VM 4.3+ personally). -- db

Re: overwrite user direct c from a linux guest

2004-02-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/20/2004 at 06:54 CST, Alejandro Leyva Rabinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, is there any way to overwrite the user direct c from a linux guest? While you could change USER DIRECT by using NFS, you would have to use rexec or set up a server that responds to HCP MSG (for

Re: overwrite user direct c from a linux guest

2004-02-20 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 18:54, Alejandro Leyva Rabinovich wrote: Hi all, is there any way to overwrite the user direct c from a linux guest? No, not really What I want to do is: 1.- Read the user direct c 2.- Add, remove or change an entry 3.- Update user direct c 4.- Run directxa

Re: overwrite user direct c from a linux guest

2004-02-20 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 20:25, Adam Thornton wrote: Also, you'd need appropriate privileges to write that minidisk from your Linux guest. You'd need priv class A, B, or C to run DIRECTXA. ...and as Alan points out it's a little tricky to run a CMS MODULE from Linux. Adam

Re: Just stirring the pot

2004-02-20 Thread Jim Elliott
I thought IBM made Object Rexx available for L390 some time ago. It allows classical Rexx programming and has OO capabilities which, for example, let you do something over all the members of a set (it has several collection classes). Mike: Yes, ObjectREXX is available for Linux at no-charge