Re: Mono 1.1.4 RPMs for S/390

2005-03-18 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Does someone have an example of why this is so good that Gneale is spending so much time on it? I feel uncomfortable when I have not even looked at it when he is so interested in it... I heard Miguel de Icaza speak on mono at LinuxWorld in NYC in either 02 or 03. He said words to the effect of

Re: Mono 1.1.4 RPMs for S/390

2005-03-18 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2005-03-18 at 12:49, Michael MacIsaac wrote: best development environment in the world. And I got the feeling that that man knows his development environments. FWIW. I think you'll find a lot of people who disagree with both of those statements 8)

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Mark D Pace
Most likely is that your guest does not have the current class to issue attach commands. None of OS guests (VM/VSE/os390/Linux) have the ability to issue those commands for stability reasons. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee,

OT - PDF Archieve - Presentation

2005-03-18 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Hi Folks I have a huge amount of documents in PDF format (zSeries Linux related) that I need to make available for reference, I am hoping to find a solution (Linux would be nice) that would scan/present the first page of each of the PDF's, The only other option I have available at the moment is

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Mark D Pace
Most likely is that your guest does not have the current class to issue attach commands. None of OS guests (VM/VSE/os390/Linux) have the ability to issue those commands for stability reasons. Sorry that came out wrong. None of MY guests OSes have the ability to issue these commands. BRB -

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Ferguson, Neale
hcp will exit with a return code that can be checked if you are in a script: sh -c hcp attach user ;echo $? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: Mono 1.1.4 RPMs for S/390

2005-03-18 Thread David Boyes
Does someone have an example of why this is so good that Gneale is spending so much time on it? I feel uncomfortable when I have not even looked at it when he is so interested in it... Check out Neale's presentation from Hillgang that I posted. It's got some nifty examples of cool stuff done

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Dave Myers
Thanks for quick responses. Adding CLASS B to the linux guests did the trick. Thanks, Dave -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Ferguson, Neale
That's a potentially dangerous thing to do. You may want to put ATTACH in a new (additional) class by itself and then give the Linux user that class. -Original Message- Thanks for quick responses. Adding CLASS B to the linux guests did the trick.

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Doug Fairobent
Dave, Please be careful. Giving your Linux guest class B privileges makes several cp commands available, which exposes you to greater risk. You might want to create a separate class for the attach command and give your Linux guest access to that new class.

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/18/2005 at 07:46 MST, Dave Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for quick responses. Adding CLASS B to the linux guests did the trick. Hopefully you have hardened the Linux guests so that you trust them to have class B. Maybe it would be better if the Linux guest HCP MSG'd a

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Mrohs, Ray
If its just DASD, define it as a full volume minidisk owned by a userid, and CP LINK to it. Then you can stick to priv class G. Ray Mrohs Energy Information Administration U.S. Department of Energy -Original Message- From: Alan Altmark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18,

Re: OT - PDF Archieve - Presentation

2005-03-18 Thread David Boyes
I have a huge amount of documents in PDF format (zSeries Linux related) that I need to make available for reference, I am hoping to find a solution (Linux would be nice) that would scan/present the first page of each of the PDF's, Would the ability to index the documents, search for a

Re: OT - PDF Archieve - Presentation

2005-03-18 Thread Post, Mark K
I don't have any specific recommendations, but I have to believe it can be done, based on my experience with GIMP. GIMP will use the Ghostscript that is installed on your system to read in a PDF, and present each page as a separate image. If GIMP can use Ghostscript to do that, I would have to

Temporary link for Linux on zSeries developerWorks web pages

2005-03-18 Thread Gerhard Hiller
Some of you may have noticed that the old links and references to our Linux on zSeries developerWorks pages are now re-routed to the Linux on zSeries homepage (index.shtml) on awlinux1. Earlier today, we updated that page with a lengthy text, trying to explain that you shouldn't change any links

CPU Comparison

2005-03-18 Thread Davis, Larry
I know that this has been asked in many different ways, but has anyone actually put together a comparison chart or list of CPU speeds for zSeries, I32, I64, and other processors. I have a department that wants to have a group of dedicated Blades assigned to specific clients. We want to show a

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
I have a different, but related question: in SLES8, if I have in my zipl.conf dasd=292-2AF, and I hcp link linux5 292 298 mr the link is performed (VMSECURE RULES allows the link), and if I immediately look in /proc/dasd/devices, I show the new 298 disk as active at /dev/dasdg. I can then

Re: CPU Comparison

2005-03-18 Thread Joseph Temple
Larry, the conversion rate for Intel platforms to zSeries ranges from 3 MHz per MIPS to 30 MHz per MIPS depending on how much data you are pushing through the caches and out much serialization (context switches, locks, etc.). This is typically lower for the web servers and higher for the backend.

Re: CPU Comparison

2005-03-18 Thread Davis, Larry
That was a very informative answer. I know Barton Robinson at one point had used a ?MHz to MIPS ratio also, and I couldn't remember what that was. Thanks. Larry -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Temple Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005

Document management software

2005-03-18 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Well, one of the managers is looking into a document management solution for mainframe reports. This includes long term retension. Currently, and for the last 30 or so years, the reports were put on tape, and sent out to be microfiched. Now, they are looking for other solutions. 1. The first

Re: Document management software

2005-03-18 Thread Ward, Garry
What've done is use the PDF capabilities in CSI's TCP/IP for VSE and the LPR/AutoFTP function to convert the reports of PDF and put them in a set of folders on the Windows FTP server on the LAN. Not fancy and I've had to build some specific scripts for the LPR/Auto FTP for specific reports, but no

cpint on 2.6 (rhel4/64-bit): Invalid module format

2005-03-18 Thread Sal Torres/SBC Inc.
Hi, I am trying to build cpint-2.2.0 on a RHEL4/64-bit system, everything builds ok, but when I try to load the module I get: /sbin/insmod cpint.ko insmod: error inserting 'cpint.ko': -1 Invalid module format Thanks in advance, Sal

Re: Document management software

2005-03-18 Thread Doug Fairobent
Tom, There is a crude, cheap, but perhaps useful approach. I am embarrassed to describe what I have done, but then I have become accustomed to being embarrassed. I route print reports (pure text) to a virtual machine which stores them as CMS files in a SFS directory. You can group reports into

Re: cpint on 2.6 (rhel4/64-bit): Invalid module format

2005-03-18 Thread Ferguson, Neale
I'm in the process of building cpint-2.3.0 and making it GA (it fixes a problem with 32-bit programs on a 64-bit system). The build process requires that you use the kernel build method. The Makefile should now look like: cpint_mod-objs := cpint.o cmdmain.o idmain.o monmain.o actmain.o obj-m

Re: cpint on 2.6 (rhel4/64-bit): Invalid module format

2005-03-18 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Neale, Are you catholic? Are you applying for sainthood? A statesman is a dead politician. Lord knows we need more statesmen! --Berkeley Breathed Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. Boeing Shared Services Group Enterprise Servers VM Technical Services 425-865-5940 -- From: Ferguson, Neale

Re: cpint on 2.6 (rhel4/64-bit): Invalid module format

2005-03-18 Thread Ferguson, Neale
To quote Billy Joel: I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. Sister Theresa, if she were still alive, would be giving me a thorough thrashing at that blasphemy! -Original Message- Are you catholic? Are you applying for sainthood?

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
When the dasd= parameter was added, did you run zipl? Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: I have a different, but related question: in SLES8, if I have in my zipl.conf dasd=292-2AF, and I hcp link linux5 292 298 mr the link is performed (VMSECURE RULES allows the link), and if I immediately look in

Re: CPU Comparison

2005-03-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
Last I heard, Barton's Magic Number was 4. But depending upon I/O load could go higher. Davis, Larry wrote: That was a very informative answer. I know Barton Robinson at one point had used a ?MHz to MIPS ratio also, and I couldn't remember what that was. Thanks. Larry -Original Message-

Re: Document management software

2005-03-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
There was a thread about this topic on this very list that started Monday. Check the archive for CMS for Documentation and Document Management Software. Tom Duerbusch wrote: Well, one of the managers is looking into a document management solution for mainframe reports. This includes long term

Google opens up

2005-03-18 Thread Ferguson, Neale
See: http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2005031800632OSSWDV Google has launched a site that provides Google source code for free, along with discussion forums. We have derived a great amount of software from the open source community, so we felt it would be appropriate for us to interact

Re: Document management software

2005-03-18 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I find it interesting that all the replys so far from the Linux listserv were for ways of doing this in VM and VSEG. I guess that means that other shops have tackled this problem many years ago. I've looked at the CMS file option and the PDFs from VSE option. But those only produces reports. I

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Of course. It's an automatic reaction. Update zipl.conf, run zipl. A statesman is a dead politician. Lord knows we need more statesmen! --Berkeley Breathed Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. Boeing Shared Services Group Enterprise Servers VM Technical Services 425-865-5940 -- From: Rich

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
Did you verify that the LINK is actually working either with hcp or logging on to the machine directly? Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: Of course. It's an automatic reaction. Update zipl.conf, run zipl. A statesman is a dead politician. Lord knows we need more statesmen! --Berkeley Breathed Gordon Wolfe,

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Bruce Hayden
I've been trying to find this myself. One thing I read is to run /sbin/dasd_configure 0.0.298 1 0 to bring it online. This is a script that does all the magic in the sysfs file system to enable it. The 1 after the address is to bring it online and the 0 is to not use the diag driver. I haven't

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Ferguson, Neale
What happens with: chccwdev -e 0.0.0298 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
If I do the link and then do hcp q v dasd it shows up. It does not show up in cat /proc/dasd/devices. A statesman is a dead politician. Lord knows we need more statesmen! --Berkeley Breathed Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. Boeing Shared Services Group Enterprise Servers VM Technical Services

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
chccwdev -e 0.0.0298 Setting device 0.0.0298 online Done lnx5:~ # cat /proc/dasd/devices 0.0.0292(ECKD) at ( 94: 0) is dasda : active at blocksize: 4096, 90144 0 blocks, 3521 MB 0.0.0293(FBA ) at ( 94: 4) is dasdb : active at blocksize: 512, 50 blocks, 244 MB

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Ferguson, Neale
Didn't you used to have echo add dasd=298 /proc/dasd/devices in SLES8? With udev and hotplug a script could probably automate this for you. -Original Message- chccwdev -e 0.0.0298 Setting device 0.0.0298 online Done lnx5:~ # cat /proc/dasd/devices 0.0.0292(ECKD) at ( 94: 0) is

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
If the devices were in the dasd parameter, they would come 'on line' as soon as they were linked. Ferguson, Neale wrote: Didn't you used to have echo add dasd=298 /proc/dasd/devices in SLES8? With udev and hotplug a script could probably automate this for you. -Original Message- chccwdev

Re: cpint on 2.6 (rhel4/64-bit): Invalid module format

2005-03-18 Thread Sal Torres/SBC Inc.
*** Reply to note of Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:08:03 -0500 (EST/CDT) *** by LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Thanks Neale, I will give it try!! Sal Ferguson, Neale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm in the process of building cpint-2.3.0 and making it GA (it fixes a = problem with 32-bit programs on a 64-bit

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Nope. never had to do an echo add dasd=298 /proc/dasd/devices. Just did the link and it worked. A statesman is a dead politician. Lord knows we need more statesmen! --Berkeley Breathed Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. Boeing Shared Services Group Enterprise Servers VM Technical Services 425-865-5940

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Wiggins, Mark
I wasn't following this thread real close so if I repeat something, I'm sorry. I've found that the /sbin/dasd_configure 0.0.0298 1 0 command works the same as the old echo add device range= command used to in SLES8. Mark Wiggins University of Connecticut Operating Systems

Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-18 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
They did in SLES8, they don't in SLES9. A statesman is a dead politician. Lord knows we need more statesmen! --Berkeley Breathed Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. Boeing Shared Services Group Enterprise Servers VM Technical Services 425-865-5940 -- From: Rich Smrcina Reply To: Linux